I have own about 400 DVDs, all of which are available as ISO files through a playback device called a Network Media Tank, which pulls them off a Network Attached Storage box. Both of these devices are visible through AllShare, but since my discs are stored as ISO files virtually none of the media is actually available.
Does anyone know if the media formats can be easily expanded?
Is there perhaps some type of aftermarket ISO support available already and I've just overlooked it?
ISO is not a media format its a copy of the entire DVD's file structure and associated files, and storing 4.5gb full definition videos on the phone is a serious waste of space. You need to extract the video portion from the ISO image and convert that to an appropriate size for the phone.
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ISO is not a media format its a copy of the entire DVD's file structure and associated files, and storing 4.5gb full definition videos on the phone is a serious waste of space. You need to extract the video portion from the ISO image and convert that to an appropriate size for the phone.
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To be fair, he is streaming from a server and this is a common way to do it for htpcs and media tank devices. Some people like the menus and such. To convert them to something the vibrant can play, makemkv would be a good choice as it's fast and doesn't transcode the video. There's also handbrake if you want to shrink them.
I don't know of a way to play the isos through the streaming app that comes with the phone. Some media servers can transcode on the fly for devices. That might be an option.
The Vibrant wont play ISOs. I would say use handbrake to convert the movies you want into something that will play on your phone.
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If you are streaming from a home server why would you be viewing a movie on the tiny screen when you have bigger ones in your house?
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If you are streaming from a home server why would you be viewing a movie on the tiny screen when you have bigger ones in your house?
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Maybe he is away from home but still wants to be able to watch his movies?
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ISO is not a media format its a copy of the entire DVD's file structure and associated files, and storing 4.5gb full definition videos on the phone is a serious waste of space. You need to extract the video portion from the ISO image and convert that to an appropriate size for the phone.
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Yes, I'm well aware of the internal structure of ISO files. I actually rip the original DVD, then reauthor to a new ISO containing only the main movie file, 5.1 audio, and the chapter markers (and sometimes the English subtitles for foreign flicks). Bundling them back into an ISO is the only way the NMT will recognize chapters.
I suppose I should have clarified that I don't consider the menus or extras to be very important in most cases. I can always grab the original disc if I really care to see any of that. (Though I realize that anyone looking for ISO support would also probably expect that -- even though most of the streaming media players out there don't support it, the NMT product line being one notable exception.)
I'm not looking for a way to convert this content to something else. Well, not unless somebody knows of a single HD+5.1 format that maintains chapter skips? I never really thought to search around on that basis. Although I cringe at the thought of having to re-rip and re-code that many flicks...
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If you are streaming from a home server why would you be viewing a movie on the tiny screen when you have bigger ones in your house?
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The house has 9 zones wired back to a centralized AV closet for full audio/video distribution and control, but I don't have a matrix switcher and really don't feel like blowing $4000+ for something that can handle 9x9, so whatever HD/surround is being viewed in one location is what is sent to all locations.
I figured this way my wife or I could wire up our phones using the forthcoming USB/HDMI cable to the HDTV in our offices or out in the garage or whatever, and stream something separate from whatever is being distributed to the rest of the house.
Do you have a somewhat powerful computer you can use for this? There are some uPNP compatible media servers that can transcode the videos on the fly as they stream to the device. I know PlayON does it for online streams. That might be the best option for you. It doesn't need to be really powerful, any 2Ghz or so Intel box should be able to handle it. I can't remember the names as I've never had a use for them, but this phone might make me reconsider.
I use MKV files for my rips on my HTPC setup, but that's more for multi subtitle/audio track support. I don't really do chapter skips, I just tell it I want 20min or whatever. I don't know if the phone reads MKV either, I haven't messed with it's media player capabilities much beyond the included Avatar movie.
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I have own about 400 DVDs, all of which are available as ISO files through a playback device called a Network Media Tank, which pulls them off a Network Attached Storage box. Both of these devices are visible through AllShare, but since my discs are stored as ISO files virtually none of the media is actually available.
Does anyone know if the media formats can be easily expanded?
Is there perhaps some type of aftermarket ISO support available already and I've just overlooked it?
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As posted above there are apps that will transcode movies on the fly for you. I have used Orb to stream to a phone before, and it worked reasonably well.
You have 9 zones and everything that is played in one location plays in all? Doesn't sound like zones to me. Sounds like what I play everybody is stuck watching. I mean no offense by saying that since I really don't know your setup and I'm sure if I do understand what your saying its your preference as well.
In my setup, which I know is off topic I have a media server and every PC in my house can watch different things all at the same time. Just for reference that's 6 different locations varying from HD to SD content.
You could use HandBrake or DvdFAB or other various applications to extract the ISO into a usable format for your phone. I was gungho to play video on my phone when I got it and honestly I've yet to really use it for what it was originally intended. LOL
I suppose you're right, they aren't "zones" but there are only two people in my house so it hasn't been a big deal. I suppose if I put PCs in every room I could easily do this but the last thing I need is even more computers. In fact I'm pretty happy that most of my computers have finally been jammed into a closet where I don't have to see them.
But the setup in my house is irrelevant.
I converted a flick to MKV last night and it turns out the phone can't take that stream anyway.
Use tversity I just stream everything from one computer to everything. Ps3 or Xbox or a phone. You can run as many streams as your computer and connection can take. It trans codes on a fly and never had any probs with it.
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whats the best way to view mpegs, avis etc on the XDA II, i have mediaplyer 9 series but its does not seem to play mpegs.
any ideas
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maxd
Search around for Pocket TV
www.pockettv.com and its free
thanks guys..
illl give this a go.. looks a cool app
maxd
use pocket mvp uses less power of the cpu then pocket tv + also plays mp3, div x and vogorbis files
Does anybody have any films ready converted to mpeg?? I have some short films like killer bean2 2 which is brilliant but would like some more.
i have matrix reloaded encoded to divx format 320x240 size 250bps 21kbs sound (landscape) works wicked on pocklet mpv but file size is 124mb and too big for me to transfer on a 56k lol
i could start up a pocket pc movie thing on here but it would be kinda illegal and the mods wouldnt allow it
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I could start up a pocket pc movie thing on here but it would be kinda illegal and the mods wouldnt allow it
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Hey, listen... 'The mods' have traded plenty of warez, MP3s and movies when they were young and wild. Thing is that this is a website. Great for some things, not for others. Websites aren't Usenet, Kazaa or BitTorrent: they come with convenient contact details of people to sue.
Now in the theoretical event somebody were to set up an anonymously freehosted page that contained loads and loads of PocketPC movie Bittorrent files and kept posting the location of this page on this board, there would be absolutely nothing we could do about it. We would be completely and utterly unable to help the authorities. Imagine the horror...
You could also try downloading the Windows Media Encoder (do a search on the Microsoft site). This allows you to encode most media types (MPEG, AVI etc) into WMV format. There are already templates setup for the Pocket PC so it is very straight forward and the results on the Pocket PC using WMP9 are excellent. Small file sizes as well. I use this all the time to encode stuff recorded using my TV card.
yeah but wmf are very crap quality and not as clear as divx encoded movies + dont run as smooth on as high bitrate as 250+
i think ill leave the movies thing too risky
can someone share any information on how to convert videos for the nexus s? as i am having quite a bit of trouble, programs used etc?
http://www.nexusoneforum.net/forum/nexus-one-faq-how-tos/840-how-convert-any-video-your-nexus-one.html
enjoy. yes i know it says nexus one. same screen res though. worked like a charm for me.
Cheers dude
I use handbrake also, but do so in a slightly different way.
I got tired of re-ripping my movies each time I switched to a device that had a different resolution/codec/whatever. So what I did was to buy two 1TB drives, one for DVD Movies, and one for DVD TV shows. Then I downloaded the free DVDFab (http://www.dvdfab.com/hd-decrypter.htm). DVDFab will strip the DRM from the movie and copy it. For movies I only copy the "main movie", for TV Shows I "copy the entire disk".
Then, since I dual-boot Ubuntu Linux, I wrote a couple of scripts to use HandBrake to go through all of the DVD folders and convert any DVD Movie to my current movie codec (right now mp4 using H.264). For the TV DVD's I create a text file with each episode's title and location on the disk. That way I can again transcode them automatically.
So, for instance, when H.264/mp4 is no longer viable and we are all on WebM, all I have to do is download the latest version of HandBrake for Ubuntu, change the settings in the script, and re-run them. Viola, I have all of my movies and TV shows on my third 1TB drive that I can take with me and put on my phone or laptop or whatever.
I found FormatFactory to be better than handbrake if you already have the source on your computer and want to implement subtitles. Just my experience.
Below are the settings that I use.
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I found FormatFactory to be better than handbrake if you already have the source on your computer and want to implement subtitles. Just my experience.
Below are the settings that I use.
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Format Factory's website is showing as hostile on McAfee's SiteAdvisor...
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Format Factory's website is showing as hostile on McAfee's SiteAdvisor...
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....It doesn't on others. So you can decide who to believe. I mean, it's been used and recommended by xda members and other sites. So yeah, believe what you want and use what you want.
The only thing McAfee got right is the wavesecure app, otherwise I wouldn't just believe everything their software say.
I have searched high and low... this is crazy. I have my entire DVD collection ripped from DVDfab to VOB format and it works great with VLC player, WD Live tv, etc. I copy the movie I want to my Xoom and no player will play the friggin files. Some of the players will play the first VOB file, then just die out. Never making it to the next one.
I really do not want to convert or pay for a coverter to switch to MP4 formats...
What players have you tried so far?
Just about every single video player in the marketplace. Rocketplayer, vplayer, doubletwist, etc. I just found a VOB merger.
http://beginwithsoftware.com/videoguides/joinvobfilestool.html
Merging hot tub time machine right now and see how it goes.
I have vob's too..i just used Total Video Converter to convert mine to mp4 ..you have to pay for it but im sure there might be some free converters out there.
It seems like it is soooo close to working by default with Rockplayer or Vplayer. Its like the same mess I went through with WDLIVE box to get to play videos.. finally it works great now. I really do not want to convert and take up that time....
This might be a dumb question, but did you try changing the extension to .mpg?
It won't solve the finding-the-next file problem, but at least they might play?
It does actually somewhat play. I have the Black Knight and it has a fairly large VOB file and on my xoom, it spits it out perfectly through HDMI using RocketPlayer. But once that VOB is done.. it craps out.
Try Moboplayer.
Yeah, no love from mobo either. Its seems so easy.. but I guess not... Its like I just turned the hands of video playing back 12 months to my WDlive box and everyone trying to get it to work as well.
Your problem stems from the weird way you chose to store your videos. Ripped videos are usually converted to MPEG4--ASP (DivX) for older stuff, AVC (H264) for current stuff. Most players therefor are designed for MPEG4, not MPEG2, and not the VOB container.
Your method was OK for the PC because it has a mature software ecosystem, and lots of available players. On mobile devices, you get hit by a double whammy of hardware restrictions and limited software. Most every current Android player is using ffmpeg lib, meaning no HW accel. HW accel will come for Android, but not for MPEG2. Online videos are all using MPEG4 AVC nowaday.
If you want to stick with VOBs, then buy a tablet geared for PMP use. The Archos Gen8 currently can play VOBs, as are a host of no-name Asian tabs. Chinese & Korean vendors have a long PMP history, and typically have strong video support. Their downside, for now, is no HC and low build quality.
Versatile media playing is one of the "Killer" features that Honeycomb should have had from the outset as it one of the obvious features that Android tablets could beat the iPad on hands down.
Research has already shown that a lot of tablet use is made at home and the large screen is perfect for media playing. MPEG2 and VOBS have been around a long time and when a low powered WDTV media player or an Archos can handle a wide range of audio and video formats it seems perverse that Android users are having to wait for these features.
Honeycomb needs to be able to play just about any video or audio format thrown at it. Google/Honeycomb needs features like this to demonstrate an obvious advantage over other tablets and "Chinese" media players.
The more that a Honeycomb tablet can do, the more successful they will be. To my mind it's just the sort of thing the public and the press would see as a major "plus" factor. Why should one have to buy a number of separate devices when one device could do them all?
I have read that the VLC media player is being ported to Android so we can live in hope but it really should have been in Honeycomb as a native feature from day one.
A native way to save and/or print a web page should also have been a "native" feature as well as a screencap feature - at least this last feature is included on the Asus Transformer so there is hope!
I'd need to check but maybe a way around this would be to setup a playlist and play each VOB in sequence? I think, but again I'd need to check, that Moboplayer has the ability for playlists...
Sure, HC should have any number of things. It should've been finished. But it isn't.
Consumers always want things done yesterday. The reality is that software development always lags. Rather than dwelling on the "shouldas", IMO it's more productive to focus on what is, and plan your decisions accordingly.
Lack of MPEG2/AC3 support isn't a matter of power. It's a matter of licensing. Many product decisions are made on business reality (read: $ cost), and not what's technically feasible. Most videos nowaday use MPEG4, and that's where the demand lies. Like it or not, VOB/MPEG2 viewing is a niche need. Those used to the PC's abundance in software will have to recalibrate their expectations for Android.
I dont think its a honeycomb issue. I think there is not a player out there to handle VOBs correctly because there has not been a device to come even close to being able to play the hi-res video files. Xoom can do it. I have said before somewhere, if I have a single VOB such as the Dark Knight, it plays awesome on my Xoom and through HDMI out to my TV.. (streaming no less from my WD 1tb NAS drive). It really works.. to me, its a player issue and nobody has made a player to play multiple VOB files. Id pay $20 or $30 had a player to make all my current ripped dvds work on the xoom.
and to top it off, MPEG4 stinks. I "converted" a VOB using one of the bazillion convertor software programs out there and it shows up on my xoom fine, but looks like crap compared to the VOB
Suggest you try a good converter. There's a reason why the whole computing world is using MPEG4. For a no-brainer converter that can do drag-drop batch processing (so you can do all your vids in one go), try HandBrake with my automated script.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=978529
Can I have this convert my existing VOBs? Or do I need to go back to the DVDs and do this?
I tried a convertor and it took about 2 hours.. insane.
The script accept folders as input. Each folder should hold a movie, and should have the VIDEO_TS.IFO file (this contains the stream info), along with the VOBs.
Yes, depending on your system speed, it will take a while. That's why there is batch processing. You drop 5-10 movies onto the script, and let it run overnight.
Speed is set at medium as default. For about 30-50% faster processing, at the cost of about 10% size increase, edit script and change speed to 'veryfast'.
I would recommend arcMedia player, after trying Buzz, MX, Mobo and Rockplayer I can say that arcMedia player handled this (megaupload. com/?d=O7ZMO5GK) video file the best so far.
If you turn off "skipping frames" at Buzz, video is being played with hanging / freezees, although CPU isn't being overloaded.
Other players just don't play ac3 audio properly.
give it a try to understand what I mean.
I have all of my Videos in VOB format also. when I convert these movies to MPEG4 is there a way to save all of the DVD features like subtitles, menus, and extras?
Bought a N7, and am happy with it I would like to stream videos (.ISOs ripped with AnyDVD + ImgBURN) from my Win Vista machine. I've several Win machines in my network. 2 with XP MCE, 1 with Vista, and 2 with Win 7. With ES File explorer, I can see the computers in the network but cannot access the hard drives. Samba issues? I can access the hard drives though Tonido, but clicking on a file initiates a download. I have VLC in web mode, but cannot see it on the tablet. I've turned on file sharing without permissions.
Suggestions?
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I use dropbox to play movies right from the cloud, or I just simply put them on my N7 within a minute. Don't know an alternative if you didn't meant this :s
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I use dropbox to play movies right from the cloud, or I just simply put them on my N7 within a minute. Don't know an alternative if you didn't meant this :s
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Dropbox has a file size limitation of 2 gigs for a free account. I'm talking terabytes of movies. When I rip a movie, it stays the full, original DVD quality and size, which averages about 7 and a half gigs. I'm trying to do this on the cheap, and paying $10 bux a month to dropbox isn't an option.
Other suggestions? I want to use VLC or any other player to simply play the video from one of the Windows machine, mainly the Vista one, as that is the one with all the storage space.
Google Drive gives you 5gb for free.
I've investigated all of the streaming options for my girlfriend who wanted to watch movies that were stored on her computer while on the couch... there are several avenues for local streaming and several others for remote streaming. If you want to stream through your own wifi network I would recommend getting Splashtop 2 HD which is basically a VNC server/client so once set up you will see whatever is on your PC screen on your N7, this works beautifully for us, just start the movie playing on your PC then turn the monitor off, video and sound are mirrored to the N7. You could also use MediaHouse which is a DLNA/UPnP client for android along with PS3 media server on your PC.
Remote streaming over the internet is limited to cloud based storage services, dropbox is the only one I have experience with and it is hit and miss. To stream from drop box you must use AntTek explorer with their dropbox plugin, then you can browse dropbox files from within that app and when you open it it will ask you which app to use, make sure you use MX player.
I've used https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=mobi.qiss.vega.ad&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsIm1vYmkucWlzcy52ZWdhLmFkIl0. for streaming to my phone works great.
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Google Drive gives you 5gb for free.
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again, 5 gigs isn't big enough for an 8 gig movie. Besides, who wants to constantly load and unload one movie at a time?
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I've used https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=mobi.qiss.vega.ad&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsIm1vYmkucWlzcy52ZWdhLmFkIl0. for streaming to my phone works great.
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That looks pretty good.
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again, 5 gigs isn't big enough for an 8 gig movie. Besides, who wants to constantly load and unload one movie at a time?
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Is having them on your PC and using a file explorer with network capabilities not an option for you?
Like ES File Explorer or FX Explorer?
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I've used https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=mobi.qiss.vega.ad&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsIm1vYmkucWlzcy52ZWdhLmFkIl0. for streaming to my phone works great.
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The problem with this is it streams over the internet from your home computer... most people have TERRIBLE upload speeds, even with very high speed broadband internet. It's not uncommon to have 25mb down and only 768kb up. I can't see streaming a DVD rip with an upload cap below 1mb, let alone HD video. The nice thing about cloud based storage is they are actual network servers and are able to serve up your content much faster than you can from your home internet connection, unless you happen to be very lucky and have unusually high upload speed at home, I don't.
VLC Direct Pro works fine for me in local network. Since it encodes the video before streaming it, there is no issues except 20-30 seconds of delay, which makes seeking a bit difficult. You can choose the bitrate also.. Over 1Mbps I did not see any major difference on my N7
I tried samba but due to high bitrates of movies (mostly 1080p) , I see buffering issues sometimes. Wifi connection must be strong and you need a powerful player to be able to play the 1080p mkv content..
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Dropbox has a file size limitation of 2 gigs for a free account. I'm talking terabytes of movies. When I rip a movie, it stays the full, original DVD quality and size, which averages about 7 and a half gigs. I'm trying to do this on the cheap, and paying $10 bux a month to dropbox isn't an option.
Other suggestions? I want to use VLC or any other player to simply play the video from one of the Windows machine, mainly the Vista one, as that is the one with all the storage space.
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Why on Earth would you leave a (crappy) DVD full size? At 7", a compressed DVD looks *really nice* on the n7.
DVD's "with all the junk," are 7.5 gigs. Trimmed down, can be less than 1 gig. They still look great....unless you're trying to watch them on a screen larger than a 20-24" monitor.
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again, 5 gigs isn't big enough for an 8 gig movie. Besides, who wants to constantly load and unload one movie at a time?
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I've investigated all of the streaming options for my girlfriend who wanted to watch movies that were stored on her computer while on the couch... there are several avenues for local streaming and several others for remote streaming. If you want to stream through your own wifi network I would recommend getting Splashtop 2 HD which is basically a VNC server/client so once set up you will see whatever is on your PC screen on your N7, this works beautifully for us, just start the movie playing on your PC then turn the monitor off, video and sound are mirrored to the N7. You could also use MediaHouse which is a DLNA/UPnP client for android along with PS3 media server on your PC.
Remote streaming over the internet is limited to cloud based storage services, dropbox is the only one I have experience with and it is hit and miss. To stream from drop box you must use AntTek explorer with their dropbox plugin, then you can browse dropbox files from within that app and when you open it it will ask you which app to use, make sure you use MX player.
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I'll try this. Thanks!
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Why on Earth would you leave a (crappy) DVD full size? At 7", a compressed DVD looks *really nice* on the n7.
DVD's "with all the junk," are 7.5 gigs. Trimmed down, can be less than 1 gig. They still look great....unless you're trying to watch them on a screen larger than a 20-24" monitor.
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I leave them @ full size, because I stream them to other computers in my house along with pressing backup copies. A compressed version down to one gig looks crappy on my 50" plasma.
On a side note, kudos to getting your A3000 to access the internet. Something I've tried for months to do with mine without luck.
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VLC Direct Pro works fine for me in local network. Since it encodes the video before streaming it, there is no issues except 20-30 seconds of delay, which makes seeking a bit difficult. You can choose the bitrate also.. Over 1Mbps I did not see any major difference on my N7
I tried samba but due to high bitrates of movies (mostly 1080p) , I see buffering issues sometimes. Wifi connection must be strong and you need a powerful player to be able to play the 1080p mkv content..
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I haven't gotten VLC Direct Pro to "see" the movie I'm streaming on the Vista machine, even with every file-sharing without permissions and the web interface active on the VLC player. It's like I can see the computers in the network, but cannot access the hard drives with ES File viewer. I can access any file using my Tonido.com account, but can only download files and not view them.
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I leave them @ full size, because I stream them to other computers in my house along with pressing backup copies. A compressed version down to one gig looks crappy on my 50" plasma.
On a side note, kudos to getting your A3000 to access the internet. Something I've tried for months to do with mine without luck.
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You'll need to find a network card for an old 8 or 16 bit PC and use a 286, or if you can find one, 386 bridgeboard. Another option is via a program called "Shapeshifter" and run a Mac OS on it. I run System 7 on mine. Break out your old 56k modem for that trick. There was a network card for the UNIX version of the Amy...but rare as hens teeth.
IMO, a DVD looks like crap on anything larger than a 32" screen.
Truth be told.....I'm using an N7 at the moment.
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You'll need to find a network card for an old 8 or 16 bit PC and use a 286, or if you can find one, 386 bridgeboard. Another option is via a program called "Shapeshifter" and run a Mac OS on it. I run System 7 on mine. Break out your old 56k modem for that trick. There was a network card for the UNIX version of the Amy...but rare as hens teeth.
IMO, a DVD looks like crap on anything larger than a 32" screen.
Truth be told.....I'm using an N7 at the moment.
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I've got an old network card for my Amiga. Even got the drivers for it. Just never got it to work properly with my network.
the .ISO's of the DVD's I rip look good on my plasma. It is an older Samsung which might be why. Not too many options on changing screen resolution. It's like letterbox or normal. period. I'm not complaining though.
I have a few DVD and Blu-ray rips stored as ISO or mkv on Windows. Is it worth converting them to a smaller file size for storing and playing on the N7? If yes, what format for video/audio should I use and can you please recommend a good an easy to use Windows conversion program? Thanks!
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I have a few DVD and Blu-ray rips stored as ISO or mkv on Windows. Is it worth converting them to a smaller file size for storing and playing on the N7? If yes, what format for video/audio should I use and can you please recommend a good an easy to use Windows conversion program? Thanks!
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MX player (and many others) should play mkvs and avis just fine. Try it first, it doesn't take long to copy a video onto the device.
If you encounter problems with said formats, try converting to H.264/mp4, this should be natively supported by android (any many others - its like THE codec to use nowadays )
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MX player (and many others) should play mkvs and avis just fine. Try it first, it doesn't take long to copy a video onto the device.
If you encounter problems with said formats, try converting to H.264/mp4, this should be natively supported by android (any many others - its like THE codec to use nowadays )
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Thanks! Limited space on the device is of concern too. Any recommendations for a free converter program for Windows 7? A Google search comes up with a bunch of paid and what looks like scam converters.
If H.264/mp4 is *the* video codec, what is *the* audio codec to pair it with and *the* free Wnidows conversion software to generate these?
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Thanks! Any recommendations for a free converter program for Windows 7? A Google search comes up with a bunch of paid and what looks like scam converters.
If H.264/mp4 is *the* video codec, what is *the* audio codec to pair it with and *the* free Wnidows conversion software to generate these?
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All my movies were ripped using Windows Media Player. They came in as .avi files.
Those play directly on the Nexus 7 without conversion.
I hated converting movies for cell phones... this is a lot better.
Try Handbrake,
It's converted all the dvd's I've thrown at it recently
sirxdroid said:
Thanks! Limited space on the device is of concern too. Any recommendations for a free converter program for Windows 7? A Google search comes up with a bunch of paid and what looks like scam converters.
If H.264/mp4 is *the* video codec, what is *the* audio codec to pair it with and *the* free Wnidows conversion software to generate these?
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mpeg4aac, ac3
Usually when you select the desired codec (or profile in some programs - for Android for example) it chooses audio codec automatically, the one that's usually used with chosen video codec.
I recommend xilisoft for converting, it's not free, but it's really hard to get a good free converter. You might wanna try it on linux, just install Ubuntu in a virtual machine, I'm sure there's some freeware converters made for linux
I use BSplayer, it woks on everything i tried and you get subtitles.
/cazrack
cazrack said:
I use BSplayer, it woks on everything i tried and you get subtitles.
/cazrack
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Caz is right, do not convert your movies it is time consuming and unnecessary use BSplayer and VLCplayer they will play anything you throw at it with subtitles and time stretching if needed, VLC supoprts more formats but BS will do for the majority.
Conversion will save storage space on your Nexus. I use HandBrake set to H264, AAC, in an MKV (or MP4) container. With the proper settings a 90 minute DVD takes about 400MB. It takes about 30-40 minutes to convert the original DVD file on an average PC (Intel i3 or i5).
ripbot264 is a great free tool although it requires you install a few other bits of software first, avisynth, ffdshow etc as its basically a front end gui for x264. Once done though it will give you a decent compromise between power and simplicity and works on 64 bit for a small % speed increase on video.
The other option for space limited devices is streaming over your own network using DLNA or upnp which is what I do
DrEzkimo said:
The other option for space limited devices is streaming over your own network using DLNA or upnp which is what I do
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This works OK at home, not so much offline, e.g. the kids using the tablet in the car. I suppose an OTG USB dongle with a big flash drive would do the trick, but I'd like to keep it simple and have the movies on the built-in storage if possible to shrink them and fit more of them. I think the kids care a lot more about enjoying the content than some potential playing artifacts introduced by shrinking, unlike their dad
jinx100 said:
Conversion will save storage space on your Nexus. I use HandBrake set to H264, AAC, in an MKV (or MP4) container. With the proper settings a 90 minute DVD takes about 400MB. It takes about 30-40 minutes to convert the original DVD file on an average PC (Intel i3 or i5).
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Could you please post the "proper settings" you are using? Thanks.
I am using VLC and never had to convert videos. its working just fine for me.
vibraloop said:
I am using VLC and never had to convert videos. its working just fine for me.
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Playing any file type is fine, the problem is the limited storage. If a DVD ripped straight to mkv is about 3-4GB, you can't fit much on the device. Not sure what the shrunken target size for such a DVD should be so the quality doesn't suffer too much when played on the N7.
sirxdroid said:
Could you please post the "proper settings" you are using? Thanks.
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I use HANDBRAKE, just like at least one previous poster, and I've encoded 500+ movies for viewing on both Tablets (N7 and GTab) and smaller PC screens.
I target around 700mb for ~480p, 1gb for ~720p, and 2gb for ~1080p video; but I find -1gb works best for streaming (and I mostly stream via WIFI),
If you're worried bout quality over file size, set the "quality" target to no less than 1000 avg bitrate (kbps), on the "Video" tab. Even a 2700kbps file can get choppy on an N7, so there's no need to aim too high... but it's your call.
Otherwise there should be a "Presets" list on the right side of the main Handbrake window, the "Normal" setting, under regular should be good to start with.
-Then drop in a video,
-check the "Picture" tab to make sure the resolution and cropping are alright
+ I usually use "keep aspect ratio", and no anamorphic, with a modulus of "2"
-read through the "Video Filters" tab to see if any of those might be a good idea (not usually needed)
-make sure the "Video" tab shows H.264 for codec, you can either use the lower standard frame rate (23.976), or the one from the original video, and set your target file size or quality on the right (as described above)
-then hit the "Audio" tab, and choose appropriate audio (i use AAC, Pro Logic II, and 128kbps, with "auto" sample rate)
-add subs if needed on "Subtitle" tab (burn them in to the image if you arent using a Android player that lets you choose subs while viewing)
-then check and see where the file is being outputted, change location/name if needed, and ensure it's being outputted as an MP4, or MKV (nothing odd)
-then either "Preview" the video, "Start", or "Add to Queue"
When you find settings that work well for you, you can "Add" a preset to the presets list, and make it your default... If I remember correctly I had to do this a couple times cause a few of the settings didn't take, so check your preset by closing Handbrake, reopening it, and droppping a file in before you just assume it's all set and ready to go.
You can also skim through the preferences and set default output folders and such.
After you have things the way you want them you should be left to pretty much drop files in, enque them, and then hit start and walk away.
And if you're on linux, holler, I have dual boot with Handbrake on both Ubuntu and Win7, so I can walk ya through either.
I use Freemake
I use Freemake (http://www.freemake.com/) to convert my MKV and ISO files. Just choose the Android mp4 format.
Personally I haven't converted a movie since I moved to android from an iPhone. Personally I just have a 64gb usb on my keyring (which cost about $30), and plug into my N7 with a USB OTG cable when I want to watch movies. The usb connection isn't perfect, but it works, and will save you a lot of time converting movies. On my N7 I use MXplayer and highly recommend it. Great piece of software for free.
If you want to keep them on your N7 then it would be necessary to convert to keep a reasonable amount though.
@rckoegel - Thank you VERY much for the tips. I will have to go back and read your post a few times.
sirxdroid said:
Could you please post the "proper settings" you are using? Thanks.
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These are always changing but setting the video quality fairly low is the biggest help for small file size. The quality still appears quite good when viewing.
Another converter that is very handy is XMedia Recode. I use the portable version.
Painless setup:
Set input for DVD or Movie
Drag and drop video or Open DVD/File to convert
Set Output Format Profile to Google and Google Nexus 7
Set output folder
Right click video to encode->add job
Encode
You can tweak the output settings to anything you wish. It is a piece of cake to convert videos and twice as fast as HandBrake.