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Magic forgotten?

Is it just me, or it looks like the HTC Magic is been forgotten by HTC.?
HTC Android phones are getting updates, while the Magic (and there for the Dream) are being forgotten... even the Droid is getting updates!
Whne are we gonna get some love from HTC?

Yep sure seems that way, I was waiting for the sense update but doesnt look like its happening. Be rooting it soon

I know, they promised a update on NOVEMBER!!! its already december and no news =(

Take the plunge and root it. Putting the CM rom on my Magic made me totally dig my phone

That's the sad state of our beloved HTC Magics. Really it isn't a stretch to expect updates since the Hero has the same hardware.
The Magic is easily the most under rated android phone, being able to do anything a Hero can do just is never given the chance to do so.

we had cupcake to donut the problem is becasue we have a smaller internal memory chip

smacky63 said:
Take the plunge and root it. Putting the CM rom on my Magic made me totally dig my phone
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Very tempted but mine is a work phone but if it goes bad, even unusable for a few day I`d have to buy another phone.
Also see alot of the roms have problems with BT etc which i cant have

i think another problem is HTC/the networks want to sell the new handsets they are releasing and if they update the handsets then it will be as good as there newly released handsets (software wise) so why would we want to buy a new handset from them untill it becomes a hardware issue

What annoys me is that HTC leaked the were updating the magic to sense. So I brought the magic(cause the hero is ugly) thinking I will update it and now there is no update.
Dont think my next phone will be htc

Would you restore your faith in HTC if Froyo was released to the Hero on August?

Just curious about all of you who said that would never buy an HTC phone ever again...
If HTC surprised everyone by releasing Froyo on August alongside the update to all the other devices, would you consider buying another HTC handset in the future or your faith is lost forever?

If that happens, for sure I would buy another htc product. Even if it didn't I'm still an Htc fan boy.

I think either way, I'd buy another HTC device. Of the Android devices I've played with, I still think Sense UI has the smoothest, most complete interface, and I like the way it works. To be honest, the Hero's the first phone I've ever had that actually received an update! (Though it's also the first smartphone I've had.) Granted it was a few months late, which was frustrating, but then again, it's better than none. And besides, HTC phones probably have one of the most active dev communities of any phone, here at XDA. Based on this, I'd definitely consider another HTC phone. Just my two cents.

ive just bought a desire so im not bothered eitherway anyway the great dev comunity here is gunna give us froyo long before htc

HTC Tattoo vs Wildfire

I've just been reading a review of the HTC Wildfire which is HTCs new budget android device... they seem to think its a lot better than the Tattoo. The specs though are very similar except it has a bit more RAM and a decent camera.
http://www.itpro.co.uk/624604/htc-wildfire-review/4
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Tattoo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Wildfire
Anyway, I thought it was an interesting comparison and shows what the Tattoo can still do especially as the chipsets are the same. I hope with a Froyo release for the Tattoo it can show its potential!

dom_b said:
I've just been reading a review of the HTC Wildfire which is HTCs new budget android device... they seem to think its a lot better than the Tattoo. The specs though are very similar except it has a bit more RAM and a decent camera.
http://www.itpro.co.uk/624604/htc-wildfire-review/4
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Tattoo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Wildfire
Anyway, I thought it was an interesting comparison and shows what the Tattoo can still do especially as the chipsets are the same. I hope with a Froyo release for the Tattoo it can show its potential!
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wildfire has a capacitive touchscreen --> multitouch

alberto88a said:
wildfire has a capacitive touchscreen --> multitouch
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Apart from being able to pinch zoom who cares? And with a 3.2 inch screen anyway I don't think its the going to be beating an iPhone for web browsing just because it has multi touch lol. My point is that the Tattoo can be brought up to the same level with a complete 2.1/2.2 update.

Maybe that "bit more RAM" is necessary to have 2.1 and sense working fine.
But i'm not sure

dom_b said:
Apart from being able to pinch zoom who cares? And with a 3.2 inch screen anyway I don't think its the going to be beating an iPhone for web browsing just because it has multi touch lol. My point is that the Tattoo can be brought up to the same level with a complete 2.1/2.2 update.
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yes but in my opinion it won't arrive!
instead htc assured froyo for device from genuary 2010 excluding tattoo that exited on november/december 2009 -.-
i'm not talking about hardware that is almost the same but the support won't be the same for these devices...
do not forget wildfire start with a 2.1 upgradeable to 2.2
and the cost is almost the same for both devices...

Not from HTC it won't... but the development team here are almost there anyway so hopefully a fully working ROM will be here soon without the need for HTC!
And I think you're missing my point. Im just saying that the new device is basically the same as the Tattoo. Im not saying sombody should go out now and buy a Tattoo, that would be stupid lol.

HTC Wildfire is what the Tattoo should have been.
I'm not convinced in upgrading to the Wildfire just to replace my dying Tattoo.

People, I'm quite sure that HTC won't update Wildfire to 2.2. They will just leave it behind like they left behind the Tattoo! They clearly said that they will update most of the phones released in 2010...I don't know, but I sense that the wildfire users will be as disappointed as we were when they said that 2.1 isn't going to come for our tattoos...

TheSSJ said:
People, I'm quite sure that HTC won't update Wildfire to 2.2. They will just leave it behind like they left behind the Tattoo! They clearly said that they will update most of the phones released in 2010...I don't know, but I sense that the wildfire users will be as disappointed as we were when they said that 2.1 isn't going to come for our tattoos...
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Ditto. HTC just likes to put phones out there that they can't support, you buy it, you have to put up with it if it breaks. Makes me angry.

hi
not development related moved

Coburn64 said:
HTC Wildfire is what the Tattoo should have been.
I'm not convinced in upgrading to the Wildfire just to replace my dying Tattoo.
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I couldn't say that any better. 100% agree. I think there are basicly two type of needs/users.
One is what I call the "leisure" user (that could be myself on week ends) who wants a ample web browsing, full multimedia, multiple messaging (SMS's and chat), gaming, and so on. For these users, iPhone 3g/3gs/4, Nexus One, or alike any of both is the choice.
Another one is my so called "working" user (myself monday to friday), when your needs are mostly email (mostly exchange and push), quick browsing, mapping or navigation, shopping lists, to do lists, calendars, reminders, transportation routing or schedule querying, not too ambicious web browsing, some music/sudokuing is well appreciated. For this use, Tattoo-like->Wildfire is simply perfect: does it all, with no excess luggage (weight/size).
I don't know if I should say pitty or shame on HTC for releasing a device that in a very few months will be improved to the obsolecense point. We all know that in consumer technology you will never catch up with the very best, but HTC guys, we should be happy at least for one year. Is it to ask for too much? Did they invent the "decent camera" last week so it is just now that you could include it in your phones, or couldn't you do that on the Tattoo? And cant't you upgrade to 2.1 or 2.2? You HTC want to tell us that you can't do what some cooks on XDA have already done? I am certain that these guys are very well prepared, qualified and smart, no doubt on it, but what they do is some kind of hobby on their spare time, and they are charging not a cent!
Well, my hope like many others, is on these magnificent guys cooking new ROMs for all of us (hopefully we will have a 2.1 or 2.2 fully functional), and as some other dudes already have expressed, Tattoo might well be my last HTC device.

I think tattoo is lack of screen resolution and size of the screen other than it's good if you just work around with roms and install market patched hopefully soon we will have 2.2 or 2.1 fully working custom Roms with market patched and it will be really cool
But htc should do something about tattoo they can't just leave tattoo in blank

don't think on buying a wildfire. haven't you got enough with Tattoo? save some more money and buy a nexus one or an iphone, they are truly speedy and better quality

Coburn64 said:
Ditto. HTC just likes to put phones out there that they can't support, you buy it, you have to put up with it if it breaks. Makes me angry.
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HTC Officially released Android froyo (2.2) update for wildfire in europe. Just check below link,
http://www.htc.com/europe/support.aspx?type=Others
Soon to india.. wait.

why Desire got the froyo update first?

Does anyone know why the Desire got the froyo update first when the Legend actually came out earlier than them?

Because Desire is HTC's flagship, top of the line, finest product would be my guess.
And I don't how heavy 2.2 is to run but Desire comes with the 1GHz Snapdragon CPU and will run a less fine-tuned OS better than the Legend (this is also a wild guess)..
Edit: another reason is the N1, with almoast the same specs as the desire meaning its easyer for htc engineers to modify it for desire.

will the legend ever get the update ?

I sent a question to HTC yesterday, asking when we can expect the update on the legend... This was their answer:
"Android 2.2 (Froyo) update is sent out to customers in waves. This is done so we don’t overload our system. And because of this it may take longer for some of our customers to get it. You can try searching for it by typing the following: Settings -> about phone -> updating systems software -> Search now"
Not sure if she misunderstood me, I specified that I've got a Legend, but I would guess the response could be interpreted as if she thought I've got a Desire. I dunno. I just want the update.

mathias.lithen said:
Because Desire is HTC's flagship, top of the line, finest product would be my guess.
And I don't how heavy 2.2 is to run but Desire comes with the 1GHz Snapdragon CPU and will run a less fine-tuned OS better than the Legend (this is also a wild guess)..
Edit: another reason is the N1, with almoast the same specs as the desire meaning its easyer for htc engineers to modify it for desire.
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even the EVO got the froyo update ... so i dont think thats the reason ... its probably cause the Desire has a larger user community then the Legend ..

I'm pretty sure we'll get it but we will have to wait until all other phones made in 2010 get it.
Because the Legend has the smallest community.
That's just simply what HTC needs to do, satisfy as much people as fast as possible.
So after all EVO users got there updates it's probably going to be the wildfire who's next and then probably us.
The legend hasn't specifically been named, but they have said that all android devices made in 2010 will get the update in Q3. So the legend will get it, just be patient.

Are you serious that even the Wildfire will get the update earlier than us? This must be the biggest joke ever.
So HTC's strategy is to get the more popular phones updated first and place the less popular ones below?

ryaneu said:
Are you serious that even the Wildfire will get the update earlier than us? This must be the biggest joke ever.
So HTC's strategy is to get the more popular phones updated first and place the less popular ones below?
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Who told u wildfire got it?
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JonasDroid said:
I'm pretty sure we'll get it but we will have to wait until all other phones made in 2010 get it.
Because the Legend has the smallest community.
That's just simply what HTC needs to do, satisfy as much people as fast as possible.
So after all EVO users got there updates it's probably going to be the wildfire who's next and then probably us.
The legend hasn't specifically been named, but they have said that all android devices made in 2010 will get the update in Q3. So the legend will get it, just be patient.
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I dont think the Wildfire will get it before the Legend. The Wildfire is a mass-market low-end device unlike the Legend.
I think the delay is due to addition of new features like Live Wallpapers, as Froyo gives a supposed 450% performance boost that coupled with the same graphics chip as the Nexus One and the Desire should give the Legend a lot of processing power.

I agree. The Wildfire will probably get it before the Legend.
But the Legend will get it before Q4 afaik. Since HTC said all their 2010 devices would.
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think on the bright side .. HTC trying to integrate live wallpaper into froyo 2.2 for legend user that why it take so long..

who said wildfire community is bigger than the legend .. i don't think so ...

Are you sure that Legend is getting live wallpapers? Where did you hear that?
kazzaz said:
who said wildfire community is bigger than the legend .. i don't think so ...
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I just suppose it is, it is much more price friendly therefore much more in the price tag that most people are looking for.

jonas :
yea right , but still the extra money offers better specifcations and many also will think put the extra money for extra quality ..
but anyway wildfire first or the legend it dosen't matter but the most important thing that they should not forget the legend ..

Its probably easier for HTC to update the Wildfire because of its lower hardware specs.

ryaneu said:
Its probably easier for HTC to update the Wildfire because of its lower hardware specs.
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Yea, probably not.
But no one can know which gets it first.
And if the Wildfire gets FroYo first. It's probably because it's newer. But as said before. All 2010 HTC devices will have FroYo before Q4.
Hopefully.. Never know with HTC.

if the wildfire gets the update i will have no doubt that the legend will get it because of the similir specifcations and hardware ...

Ask for the upgrade to Froyo on Htc's Facebook page.

Hello.
HTC promised upgrade to Froyo for Legend before the end of October, but it is now November and still no update.
On Italian Android Forum, owners of this phone are rightly angry, and decided to protest strongly on the htc facebook page. So I also invite you to protest, so that the protest is larger and HTC should listen.
The page is
http://www.facebook.com/HTC
You can write what you want, like "Froyo on legend!" or "Htc sucks, we want Froyo!".

Had a quick look at the page and you're right, there do seen to be a fair amount of people shouting for the Legends long overdue FroYo but I'm doubtful how much attention HTC will pay given the phones they've just release and the upcoming handsets.
That said I'll still be adding my name to the list. Otherwise its back to custom ROMs for me
Sent from my HTC Legend using XDA App

I do not know if HTC will listen to our messages on his page, write once a day, "We want legend" does not cost anything.
Htc page is now full of messages like that, so we continue to write.

How often does HTC check their Facebook page lol..
Flooding mark moons Twitter account might be more effective ...
Sent from my HTC Legend using XDA App

Yeah, you're right. I don't have a twitter account, but if you have it, write on Flooding mark moons Twitter account
owever on the page of htc in English, there are ignoring for now, but on italian page they are angry and have banned all those who wrote

Well at least we are getting noticed by them
Sent from my HTC Legend using XDA App

Great work guys, keep up the good work...
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Metallaro said:
Hello.
HTC promised upgrade to Froyo for Legend before the end of October, but it is now November and still no update.
On Italian Android Forum, owners of this phone are rightly angry, and decided to protest strongly on the htc facebook page. So I also invite you to protest, so that the protest is larger and HTC should listen.
The page is
http://www.facebook.com/HTC
You can write what you want, like "Froyo on legend!" or "Htc sucks, we want Froyo!".
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Why does HTC Suck? Because they are ensuring Froyo on Legend is done properly? That's a very strange concept, as those same users will be the first to complain if it arrived broken.

Why does HTC Suck? Because they are ensuring Froyo on Legend is done properly? That's a very strange concept, as those same users will be the first to complain if it arrived broken.
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Yeah, yeah, I do not care what you think.
If you look at the last 20 posts on the bulletin Htc, 15 are messages that ask for froyo on legend
continue like that!

CrazyPeter said:
Why does HTC Suck? Because they are ensuring Froyo on Legend is done properly? That's a very strange concept, as those same users will be the first to complain if it arrived broken.
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They should've ensured this update to be released as sheduled. 3 months passed since desire got 2.2, legend update was sheduled at Q3 those days. September aka Q3 passes, htc says we'll have update by the end of october etc. etc. Seems like they hired some bull to regularly defecate on update's status
What i mean is: it must've arrived months ago, w/o any bugs

CrazyPeter said:
Why does HTC Suck? Because they are ensuring Froyo on Legend is done properly?
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Well, they have ensured that quite swiftly for other phones. How come the Legend is the most difficult?

HTC Lies every day because the Gratia´s port to Legend woks fine, the only issue are the drivers.
i don´t like update delay, but i really hate liars!!!

Okay I'll add my name on the list... let's see....
Sent from my HTC Legend using XDA App

Whilst the Froyo update has been promised and HTC seem to be making Legend owners wait some time for it, they are letting themselves down even more by not even fixing the SMS bug problem which deserved an immediate patch as it is a broken feature.

Have a feeling...
I just have a feeling that HTC just wanna grab the opportunity to sell a 'metal' desire phone to the consumers first.
It seems peculiar that as much as HTC claimed low stocks of AMOLED, a sudden black phantom of the legend popped out of nowhere...
hence, it is possible that the legend was delayed because:
a) it will be given HD recording... Possible, but unlikely. I think i've read somewhere that the specs for the camera is similar to the desire. This could be a reason htc wanted to hold back the market for consumers to get a metal desire (and thus earn more instead of a legend)
b) people are craving for metal phones. The Legend sold well. In my country, all exclusive providers sold out the legend. (and it went to sell on 3 major telcos). this might be the reason why HTC wanted people to start picking up the HD and Z version of the desire.
c) they might try the new htc sense on the legend. Who knows? I'm not sure, but i think the gratia has no new sense... (i could be wrong on this).
Whatever it is, the legend was pretty much the litmus test that htc needed before manufacturing metal phones. Reason being was that the original desire DID NOT HAVE a metal casing. Why? The desire is HTC's flagship! And possibly, the legend has been overshadowing the desire quite a bit, and making it more likely that they might just want to put the metal switch to desire before bumping the legend. If the bump the legend now, people might just pick up more legends instead of waiting for the Desire hd and z...
Whatever it is, the desire hd and z has been launched... I expect froyo to come to the legend within a week or 2 after that...
For it to FOTA the legend to froyo before the new desires reaches all corners of the world is VERY UNLIKELY...

I honestly do not believe this.. i recon HTC is just interested in selling more phones and while doing that they devoloped loads on new products and tossed the legends development department staff along with the rest of the desire crew. and now that they are selling well they eventualy will pickup (when time allows) to continue the 2.2 little by little.

Never buy a mid range phone from HTC.
The history repeats. First circus with HTC Hero and now with Legend.

our protests have taken effect and HTC said that the update is imminent.
but they repeatedly said the same thing, and then continue to write.

Holy ****, it worked...
Sent from my HTC Legend using XDA App

warriorofice said:
HTC Lies every day because the Gratia´s port to Legend woks fine, the only issue are the drivers.
i don´t like update delay, but i really hate liars!!!
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There is a difference between releasing an update which updates existing OS's and installing a rooted ported OS from scratch. HTC have said they are having trouble with the Market after installing the update, much like the issues the Desire had.
Personally I'm quite happy to wait for a polished product imagine how much more you'd moan if they released it with loads of bugs