I got an HTC Touch from Verizon because I wanted to get away from the clutches of Verizon's lousy software they cripple every phone with and it was the cheapest WinMo phone they sold (I got it for $40.) I got the phone and stuck with my current plan ($10 add-on line on family plan.) I am cheap, my family is cheap, so we have no data plan. We can't afford a data plan, so gettign one is not an option (sorry, maybe someday in the future.)
Is there anything good I can do with my HTC Touch that doesn't require data? Is it worth flashing to a custom firmware? Is it worth installing Android? Or should I just forget it all and stick with the stock configuration?
blueblur1986 said:
I got an HTC Touch from Verizon because I wanted to get away from the clutches of Verizon's lousy software they cripple every phone with and it was the cheapest WinMo phone they sold (I got it for $40.) I got the phone and stuck with my current plan ($10 add-on line on family plan.) I am cheap, my family is cheap, so we have no data plan. We can't afford a data plan, so gettign one is not an option (sorry, maybe someday in the future.)
Is there anything good I can do with my HTC Touch that doesn't require data? Is it worth flashing to a custom firmware? Is it worth installing Android? Or should I just forget it all and stick with the stock configuration?
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Without data, you can text, call, listen to music, take pics, and download movies to the SD card from your computer.
Is this guy slow or something. You can do anything that doesn't use data, so the obvious things it can do were mentioned by the previous user. C'mon man, what a waste of time.
Well, actualy, pretty much anything "Android" is needing data, so stick with WinMo.
And then, you still has a GPS with Camera, music and video capacity. Pretty neat on it's own!
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Well, actualy, pretty much anything "Android" is needing data, so stick with WinMo.
And then, you still has a GPS with Camera, music and video capacity. Pretty neat on it's own!
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Well, the GPS isn't much good if you can't download maps.
You can still use it with TomTom or Garmin.
Ok, Android is out of the Question due to it's heavy reliance of data.
Is there a better Camera or video recording app than the one included? It takes decent photos, but the gallery is pokey. Video recording is lousy quality no matter what setting I put it on (hoping to get QVGA resolution at 15-25fps.)
If I want to use GPS, is TomTom or Garmin better? Which flash file is best for allowing use of GPS without Verizon navigator or some add-on service.
Also, is there any flash that helps to minimize memory card corruption? I have an 8GB microSD card and it seems to corrupt anytime I write files through the phone. I can take it out and use an adapter to load music and movies, but installing apps is usually the death of the card.
Sorry if I sound like a rookie, I have messed with RAZR flashing and game console soft-modding, but not much Windows Mobile experience.
blueblur1986 said:
Ok, Android is out of the Question due to it's heavy reliance of data.
Is there a better Camera or video recording app than the one included? It takes decent photos, but the gallery is pokey. Video recording is lousy quality no matter what setting I put it on (hoping to get QVGA resolution at 15-25fps.)
If I want to use GPS, is TomTom or Garmin better? Which flash file is best for allowing use of GPS without Verizon navigator or some add-on service.
Also, is there any flash that helps to minimize memory card corruption? I have an 8GB microSD card and it seems to corrupt anytime I write files through the phone. I can take it out and use an adapter to load music and movies, but installing apps is usually the death of the card.
Sorry if I sound like a rookie, I have messed with RAZR flashing and game console soft-modding, but not much Windows Mobile experience.
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I am with you brother as VZW BLOWS!!! Unfortunately that is who my work plan & I don’t have a choice. I was going to buy a Touch Pro without a data plan but the pricks wouldn’t activate the phone without a data plan which I still fail to understand.
I believe that NFSFAN’s 6.5 ROM does have a slightly better camera & video camera option. It is the same software & only the registry settings are tweaked.
GPS is whole another issue & be prepared to do a lot of reading. Again you are going to want to use NFSFAN’s ROM for GPS. Just trust me on this one. GPS will work with the stock ROM but you will have to soft reset your phone every time you want to use it. These threads should help you out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4082403&postcount=1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=537360
I have not had any memory card issues. I take mine out & put it back in all the time. I could be just that you have a bad card. Some of the Kingston cards do have this issue.
Also note that flashing a custom ROM will void whatever warranty you may have.
I'm not too worried about the warranty, if I was I wouldn't be here!
Anyhow, sounds like I will get the best mileage out of flashing the NFSFAN WinMo 6.5 ROM and then activating the GPS ala instructions found on this forum and a wiki page I found while searching around.
I still need to read up a bit about the flashing process. I flashed a few RAZRs to play around, but they weren't activated and the process for WinMo is quite different.
For very cheap you can also get a usb bluetooth for your computer, then setup activesync via bluetooth, which will provide you pass-through internet over bluetooth while in range and connected to activesync via bluetooth. That means while in your home (generally in the same room) as a the bluetoothed computer, you will be able to use any internet services on the phone as well.
Is there a guide to setup passthrough internet via bluetooth with ActiveSync?
I already have bluetooth built into my laptop (it's a Macbook Pro, running Windows 7 for for ActiveSync and gaming) so essentially it would be free, but I don't want to accidentally go on Verizon's data (I am on the pay-per-MB plan because I signed up online and couldn't choose no data.)
blueblur1986 said:
I got an HTC Touch from Verizon because I wanted to get away from the clutches of Verizon's lousy software they cripple every phone with and it was the cheapest WinMo phone they sold (I got it for $40.)
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If you're willing to come off of VZW, another possibility is PagePlus. It is prepaid and uses the VZW network. You can stay on it for as little as $4/mo.
As far as data... You can do pay as you go for data, OR, the service gives you free QNC (free slow data), but you have to figure out how to get your device to use QNC (14kbs). People have successfully used PP QNC with Treos, Moto Q's and HTC 6700's.
I believe there is an app that allows you to toggle data usage on your phone so you can avoid getting charged by accidentally using data. I believe it is linked in Codybear's FAQ and you may need a custom ROM for it to work.
blueblur1986 said:
Is there anything good I can do with my HTC Touch that doesn't require data? Is it worth flashing to a custom firmware? Is it worth installing Android? Or should I just forget it all and stick with the stock configuration?
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I am in the same situation! I purchased the phone 2 months ago and I just wanted a smartphone i.e. something to download programs on to that I don't have to pay for. I really like NFSFAN's winmo 6.5 ROM. The latest version is very good and I would consider flashing. Btw Stock config really sucks at least flash to something aesthetically pleasing!
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Btw Stock config really sucks at least flash to something aesthetically pleasing!
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You mean like Android? (No, android isn't flashable yet, but it can be booted from any GPS-enabled WM ROM.)
Android is good, I'm running it on my Vogue. I don't have a data plan either... and Android really makes you wish you had one.
A good program for WinMo for those without data plans is SmartTouch. It gathers all sorts of SMS services into one and does all the Google SMS stuff, Facebook, IM, Yellowpages, etc. I have unlimited texts and no data so when I was using WinMo I relied on that a lot.
You guys are gonna kill me, but I don't have texting either. I got to choose the phone and have no say over the plan. I have pay-per-text and pay-per-data. My plan is the standard $10 add-on line for FamilyShare 700min basic plan. We have 5 lines total, so we are pinching pennies hence no text or data.
On a side note, I seem to be having trouble finding a guide/sticky on how to flash NSFAN's 6.5 ROM and setup my phone after the upgrade to use it on Verizon (I know with RAZRs you had to do some crazy crap with reprogramming and Seem edits and such, which I never did get since I only flashed a de-activated phone.) I know it deals with something RUU or RRU or something. Any pointers are appreciated!
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For very cheap you can also get a usb bluetooth for your computer, then setup activesync via bluetooth, which will provide you pass-through internet over bluetooth while in range and connected to activesync via bluetooth. That means while in your home (generally in the same room) as a the bluetoothed computer, you will be able to use any internet services on the phone as well.
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how can i do this!? my phone only need bluetooth correct? because the sprint vogue "doesn't have" wifi
You need to buy a USB "Bluetooth Dongle" for your PC. This will allow your PC and phone to connect via the PAN (Personal Area Network) capabilites of the Bluetooth stack.
Bluetooth dongles are incredibly cheap thru Amazon. It is a little quirky to set up but works great.
Buy the dongle and install the drivers.
Install ActiveSync.
Turn on the your phones Bluetooth and make it visible.
Go to ActiveSync on your phone and under "menu" select "connect via bluetooth"
Now you may need help figuring out how to make it all connect, but do the above first... then ask questions if you are unable to get it to setup correctly.
I have this setup working flawlessly on my Samsung i760...
I will admit I am having trouble getting the Vogue to connect "flawlessly", but that is likely due to the "quirkiness" of this kind of connection.
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You need to buy a USB "Bluetooth Dongle" for your PC. This will allow your PC and phone to connect via the PAN (Personal Area Network) capabilites of the Bluetooth stack.
Bluetooth dongles are incredibly cheap thru Amazon. It is a little quirky to set up but works great.
Buy the dongle and install the drivers.
Install ActiveSync.
Turn on the your phones Bluetooth and make it visible.
Go to ActiveSync on your phone and under "menu" select "connect via bluetooth"
Now you may need help figuring out how to make it all connect, but do the above first... then ask questions if you are unable to get it to setup correctly.
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actually i dont have activesync i have mobile device center because i have windows vista [windows 7] they are both the same....could you help me to use it?
I have a T-Mobile US account with unlimited internet access. Currently I am using an HTC Touch Pro2. However, my buddy gave me his G1 to root and sell for him.
I installed RC29 and rebooted the phone. I put my sim card into the G1 so that I could get to the home screen and then begin the process of rooting the phone (i.e. download a telnet client, etc.). Problem is, I get to the Google login screen and it won't connect to the server. I've waited several hours and tried again, thinking maybe the server was down, but still have had no luck. Does anyone know why this would be? Is there another route that I can take (maybe putting a different version on the phone before rooting)?
I could really use the help of some knowledgeable person here.
Bob C.
NOTE: When I'm at the sign-in screen, I can touch the Menu button and get the APN Settings. I noticed one of them is for T-Mobile US, I just don't know what I need to put in each of the fields (if that even will help).
Also, prior to doing the downgrade, the G1 connected to the Google servers fine.
The actual message that I'm getting is, "There is a problem communicating with the Google servers".
I'm at a loss what to do.
i had some issues down grading to rc 29 i few weeks ago i updated to 1.5 and then used the one click root app. and also i was using my gfs old sidekick and data would go in and out all the time and keep getting odd text messages. so maybe ask for friend for his sim and see if that helps.
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i had some issues down grading to rc 29 i few weeks ago i updated to 1.5 and then used the one click root app. and also i was using my gfs old sidekick and data would go in and out all the time and keep getting odd text messages. so maybe ask for friend for his sim and see if that helps.
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Is there another version other than rc29 that I can put on my micro sd card and then put it on the phone? It's only since downgrading to rc29 that I have no ability to get past the Google login screen. My sim card, that I am using in the G1, has an unlimited data plan.
I know that unless the phone has root I cannot flash different rom versions on it, but is there a dreaming.nbh file that I can put on the sd card that may provide me with the ability to connect to the Google servers once I install it on the phone (holding in the camera and power button)?
I would give you the link but i am on my phone at work. Search for jesusfreke's thread on how to activate a phone without a data plan. You can use that method to skip the activation screen.
Almost every time I've rooted a phone I've had issues connecting to Google servers. Keep trying. Its taken me 5 or more tries in the past.
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Almost every time I've rooted a phone I've had issues connecting to Google servers. Keep trying. Its taken me 5 or more tries in the past.
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I tried over 10 times and even reinstalled rc29. Nothing seems to help.
I also installed the SDK and when I try to start ADB Shell the device isn't found. I think that's because I'm stuck at the signin screen but don't know for sure.
It signed onto the Google server and internet with no problem until I copied the rc29 dreaming.nbh file to the root of the sd card and started the phone via camera/power. It all updates correctly, just can't connect.
It's weird because I used to own a G1 and did the rc29 install and rooted the phone, partitioned the SD card, etc. I have no idea why I'm having such a problem connecting to the Google server.
Any other suggestions?
If no devices pops for adb, then you need to make sure adb is installed correctly.
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Is there another version other than rc29 that I can put on my micro sd card and then put it on the phone? It's only since downgrading to rc29 that I have no ability to get past the Google login screen. My sim card, that I am using in the G1, has an unlimited data plan.
I know that unless the phone has root I cannot flash different rom versions on it, but is there a dreaming.nbh file that I can put on the sd card that may provide me with the ability to connect to the Google servers once I install it on the phone (holding in the camera and power button)?
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sorry for the quick information. and you can flash official roms you might want to try updating to 1.5 here is the link http://www.mediafire.com/?zmdyjz3y2zn idk but rc29 was giving me strange issue the last time i had it on my phone so try to avoid it as much as possible now.lol but of you get data on 1.5 download the one click root app and flash cm stable and put cm update on his phone so the next person who gets wont have to worry too much about this root stuff.
i am more than glad to give all the limited knowledge i have but i dont see any advantage of rooting a phone before you sell it just saying. thanks i hope this helps
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sorry for the quick information. and you can flash official roms you might want to try updating to 1.5 here is the link http://www.mediafire.com/?zmdyjz3y2zn idk but rc29 was giving me strange issue the last time i had it on my phone so try to avoid it as much as possible now.lol but of you get data on 1.5 download the one click root app and flash cm stable and put cm update on his phone so the next person who gets wont have to worry too much about this root stuff.
i am more than glad to give all the limited knowledge i have but i dont see any advantage of rooting a phone before you sell it just saying. thanks i hope this helps
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Okay, I was able to flash 1.5 but I'm still unable to sign-in to the google servers. When I look at the APN settings there is no proxy set, no port set, no mms proxy or port set. I've been searching the forums for T-Mobile U.S. apn settings but can't find them anywhere. Any idea where I can find these. I figure that may be my problem.
Thanks again!
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I have a question about not being able to get connected to Google servers. I still have been trying and trying to signin to my Google account on the G1 that my buddy gave me to sell. I currently have an HTC T-Mobile Touch Pro2 and have been trying to use my sim card in the G1. I phoned technical support today and they guy said that I can't connect because (even though I have an unlimited internet account) my account is setup for the TP2 internet package and not the Google/Android pacakge.
Does it really make a difference? If so, this could be what's causing my problem.
Good day.
I'm new here because I decided to undertake a project with my old device, and thought this would be the place to go. I've looked elsewhere, but never gotten a clear answer.
I have an old HTC Imagio that I currently use to recharge the batteries I use for my new HTC Arrive. It sits around and takes up space, which, in a way, seems like a waste of an operable device. It has a stock ROM. I no longer subscribe to Verizon's network (as my use of an Arrive may have told you).
I want a phone I can experiment with as far as ROMs go. It is my understanding that this is done via unlocking the device. I have tried to run the unlocking utility before, but before I did, I read that the radios needed to be active on the phone. Being that this phone no longer receives service from Verizon, is it possible for me to load a new ROM onto the device? Do I need to be connected to the 3G network? I want to load a ROM onto it and possibly use the SIM card for another carrier. Again, this phone receives no current service.
What steps should I take? It wouldn't be the most tragic thing in the world to brick it... but... I'd rather not.
Thanks in advance.
The building is my condo which I am referring to which currently has swipe access. All condo owners have the "tab" which we currently pass over the little box (please excuse my technical jargon ) to open the door.
I was hoping my nfc phone could copy/mimic/be sent to the same "frequency" as the tab to open the door thus eliminating the need to carry the tab on my key chain.
is there any way my phone can learn the signal?
Man I can't help you with that, but it seems like a cool idea though. good luck
http://hackaday.com/2011/09/30/passive-rfid-tag-cloning/
I believe there are certain door locks that can be opened via bluetooth, so I'd think it's not out of the question
It really depends on the type of technology used in your condo. I checked with one of my friends condo tags and my phone wouldn't recognize it. The phone could read stuff like subway cards and my XPERIA's SmartTags and you can copy all* data from those onto the phone itself.
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It really depends on the type of technology used in your condo. I checked with one of my friends condo tags and my phone wouldn't recognize it. The phone could read stuff like subway cards and my XPERIA's SmartTags and you can copy all* data from those onto the phone itself.
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could you tell me which app you used for copying the data????
While cool in theory, I would hate for something like that to actually work. The whole point of a system like that is that nobody can copy them, otherwise you could have people who have no business having access to your building able to come and go. Former residents, friends of residents, strangers who happened to see someone's key laying out and quickly copied it with their phone, etc.
For this to work the system would first of all have to be compatible with standard ISO/IEC 14443.
Secondly: modern NFC phones do not support card emulation in the way a "normal" reader would be able to read. You would have to have operator support and special SIM card to be able to clone the card as you intended.
I am afraid that there is no easy solution how to make a normal access control system support NFC mobile phones.
Hello,,,
I recently broke my Galaxy S4 screen and its not responsive anymore. It doesn't work and doesnt show anything. Blank screen.
I bought a new Oneplus One and I want to transfer all my data from my old phone. Contacts were 30% saved to the device and 20% were to my sim card and the rest were on my Samsung account. I dont have an SD card so everything is on the internal storage for my phone.
I also would like to transfer my apps cache data.. like whatsapp's groups and contact's chat history.
I never hooked my phone up to my PC so my PC doesnt recognize it when I connect it. I dont really want to fix my screen for 100$ in order to transfer all my stuff to my new phone I also cannot unlock my screen cause It doesnt work, I do know the pattern though. just saying
pls help
Only way is to connect to pc
Look in the android section, there's a thread for controlling phones with broken screens via PC
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Only way is to connect to pc
Look in the android section, there's a thread for controlling phones with broken screens via PC
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Could you please link me the section or the thread? I don't really know my way around here in this website..
Thanks for the response!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android