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Hi guys!
I'm totally new to this forum and I apologize if this issue has been discussed/explained earlier, but here goes:
I recently purchased a new HTC P3600/Trinity , as I have been using Qtek/HTC pocketpc's the last years and have been very satisfied with them. One of the main reasons I bought Trinity was because of the 400mhz Samsung CPU which I thought would be fairly faster than the 200mhz TI CPU on my previous S200. But, what I don't understand is that, when I try to for example play NES games with PocketNES or PocketNester on the Trinity, the emulation runs sooo slow, even with sound disabled. On my S100 and S200, NES emulation was flawless with sound enabled. I have also noticed some other slowdowns when running apps/games as well. Why is this? I do hope this is a bug that can be fixed somehow with a hack/tweak or a rom upgrade.
I am also wondering if there is, per date, any overclocking apps that work with the Samsung 400mhz CPU?
Any help/comments appreciated, thanks!
- Stian
CPU MHz isn't the sole determinant for the overall application performance. I bet you are not running number crunching application in your Trinity, don't you?
Playing games inevitably involves the graphics chip, in Trinity's case - the ATI Imageon chip, which unfortunately is not too well supported by these apps. You don't get decent playback of video until recently.
And speaking about overclock - I still don't see any proper app to really overclock that Samsung CPU....
Alright thanks for the input! I really thought that the previous HTC devices had sort of the same graphics chip. I sure hope there will be software enhanced for the ati chip in the future though. More comments appreciated as well!
Its mainly because of the stupid ATI Accelerator
Please take a look at a wiki. Its a known issue , whenever you play a game (that uses stylus input) , you'll notice that fps drops dramatically but then if you just use the buttons , it works fine..I am not sure why or what. But it seems that ATI Graphics chip is the culprit
Yeah, I've heard about the thing with the touchscreen slowing it down. But even if I'm not even close to using the touch screen, it's already slow..
prasys said:
Its mainly because of the stupid ATI Accelerator
Please take a look at a wiki. Its a known issue , whenever you play a game (that uses stylus input) , you'll notice that fps drops dramatically but then if you just use the buttons , it works fine..I am not sure why or what. But it seems that ATI Graphics chip is the culprit
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so has there been any fix for this? i know that wm6 certainly doesn't make the situation better.
More comments on this issue is greatly appreciated.. As far as I have experience by now.. Every game and/or application I use that requires holding the stylus to the touchscreen suffers from major slowdowns. . I will definitely send an e-mail to HTC complaining about this issue and I hope that others will do the same. They should really fix this issue in the next ROM release ..
pcprono said:
More comments on this issue is greatly appreciated.. As far as I have experience by now.. Every game and/or application I use that requires holding the stylus to the touchscreen suffers from major slowdowns. . I will definitely send an e-mail to HTC complaining about this issue and I hope that others will do the same. They should really fix this issue in the next ROM release ..
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You can try XCPUScalar to overclock your device (paid software) http://www.immiersoft.com/, tried it on mine (HTC P3600). Works.
Good luck
pcprono said:
More comments on this issue is greatly appreciated.. As far as I have experience by now.. Every game and/or application I use that requires holding the stylus to the touchscreen suffers from major slowdowns. . I will definitely send an e-mail to HTC complaining about this issue and I hope that others will do the same. They should really fix this issue in the next ROM release ..
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I haven't used any NES emulators on Trinity - but does it involves the touch screen at all?
If you are talking about raw video performance, I guess those software like emulators will sooner or later support the ATI video chip, which would then provide better video speed.
But I doubt there's any fix from HTC regarding the stylus performance hit problem.
Besides the problem with the touchscreen...have you tried to upgrade to WM 6?
Mine is much faster since the upgrade.
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Besides the problem with the touchscreen...have you tried to upgrade to WM 6?
Mine is much faster since the upgrade.
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Really?
Is it stable and all with the WM6 upgrade? I would prefer a Norwegian WM6 rom though, considering the norwegian special letters and all .. I'll might upgrade to WM6 then, can anyone else confirm this?
simonuca said:
You can try XCPUScalar to overclock your device (paid software) http://www.immiersoft.com/, tried it on mine (HTC P3600). Works.
Good luck
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What version are you using. According to the developer Samsung support is on his "to do" list and not yet implemented.
Ce said:
What version are you using. According to the developer Samsung support is on his "to do" list and not yet implemented.
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I thought that too....
http://www.technologyatplay.com/main/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=4868&posts=3&start=1
I'm running PDAVIET's 02.07.07 with Radio 1.46.00.11 and it is absolute stable. Never had any problems with it and the gps works fine too (since the radio update). I have it installed for about 2 weeks...but it is in english.
Hi guys
Been looking around the rom section but I am really lost.
I have a HTC Touch with original rom, approx 18 months old. The wife has been using it. Now I have got me hands on it and am looking to upgrade the rom to an all singing one.
I have had a look at the rom section but dont really know what I am looking at, so this is where I was hoping you guys could help.
I basically need the following
A rom that isn't too harsh on memory, as I don't really wanna slow down the device.
Something that improves the bluetooth, as I have had a few dropouts with it, and my bluetooth gps unit is crrently hit and miss, with 8/10 it always showing no gps device, even though I KNOW it is installed correctly.
Also a nice home screen, I quite like the diamond setup, but maybe this cannot be achieved without something like mobile shell.
Also any rom that generally improves performance, battery, touch flo etc...
Guys this may sound like I cant be bothered to look but I really do need some help from the experienced here.
So thanks in advance and I look forward to your help.
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salv90 said:
Hi guys
Been looking around the rom section but I am really lost.
I have a HTC Touch with original rom, approx 18 months old. The wife has been using it. Now I have got me hands on it and am looking to upgrade the rom to an all singing one.
I have had a look at the rom section but dont really know what I am looking at, so this is where I was hoping you guys could help.
I basically need the following
A rom that isn't too harsh on memory, as I don't really wanna slow down the device.
Something that improves the bluetooth, as I have had a few dropouts with it, and my bluetooth gps unit is crrently hit and miss, with 8/10 it always showing no gps device, even though I KNOW it is installed correctly.
Also a nice home screen, I quite like the diamond setup, but maybe this cannot be achieved without something like mobile shell.
Also any rom that generally improves performance, battery, touch flo etc...
Guys this may sound like I cant be bothered to look but I really do need some help from the experienced here.
So thanks in advance and I look forward to your help.
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hi for a touch the one of the best touch essential v3.5 stable fast memory good chek it out and the touch of hd is also good
grtz weesje
Thanks for the speedy reply.
Is there a link for that rom?
Any other good ones? Wouldn't mind one that has YouTube app also.
hi. i was wondering if there was a software to overclock the snap. i used the omapclock for the t-dash and it worked like a charm in that. but tried doing so in the snap and it doesnt really seem to affect it a lot. maybe i havent tried cranking it up but thats cause i am scared not to brick it and having to reboot it as a result.
any info would be appreciated. links to software would be highly appreciated!
many thanks,
Kunal
nanavati1 said:
hi. i was wondering if there was a software to overclock the snap. i used the omapclock for the t-dash and it worked like a charm in that. but tried doing so in the snap and it doesnt really seem to affect it a lot. maybe i havent tried cranking it up but thats cause i am scared not to brick it and having to reboot it as a result.
any info would be appreciated. links to software would be highly appreciated!
many thanks,
Kunal
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At 528MHz why would you even bother over clocking it? Your not going to see any real increase with 99% of the applications out there right now as most are designed with a 400MHz in mind. Anyway I dont think Qualcomm put a speed-step function in the chip, I know they didnt for the 400 so they probably didnt in this one either.
htc snap overclocking
hi. ya i know its not much useful but the problem is that the keyboard works slow. i have a tendency to type fast (used to it since the t dash then the blackberry). i tried the reg hack of increasing the cache and stuff (posted in one of the threads in the maple section only) but has little effect on the actual speed.
so was wondering if overclocking the processor would help (tried it in samsung blackjack II which i had before this and it helped to some extent).
am trying with omap but seems to cause some software problems in some programs so dont want to force it with that.
hence the search for another one which would solve the typing speed. otherwise i just love the phone.
thanks,
Kunal
nanavati1 said:
hi. i was wondering if there was a software to overclock the snap. i used the omapclock for the t-dash and it worked like a charm in that. but tried doing so in the snap and it doesnt really seem to affect it a lot. maybe i havent tried cranking it up but thats cause i am scared not to brick it and having to reboot it as a result.
any info would be appreciated. links to software would be highly appreciated!
many thanks,
Kunal
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Yea it's doable. I heard these processors can go up to 650+. I'm actually going to tweak out clkregim.dll to try to achieve some extra MHz. Might end up bricked... Lol.
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hey ookba
thanks a lot for your reply. was really getting worried. btw i had also posted this on the google smartphone groups and they referred me to nueClockControl 1.1 saying that this is an underclocking software but an updated one might allow overclocking else the company would be in the process of developing/might custom develop an overclocking software.
am trying with them, in the meantime if you are able to make a breakthrough with your attempt, then please please post what and how you did it in this thread including the software used. I am a little slow in these things so you just might have to bear with the thickness of my skull
thanks,
Kunal
No one got any updates on how to speed up the keyboard?
Has anyone noticed this? Wherever there's something to scroll, web pages, menus etc., the motion is sort of stuttering as long as you keep your finger on the screen. When you release your finger and "throw" the page, it goes smooth. This makes me think that it's not a graphic performance issue, but it's more like if the resolution of the capacitive touch screen was lower than the actual display. I hope I'm wrong and it's software related...
Software related, doesn't always do this.
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On second thought I am not sure, sometimes it does this really badly and other times it is completely smooth. If we didn't have full resolution touch you would notice it on a multi touch test app.
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I think I have found the cause.
Cpu scaling!
Lock setcpu to 1 ghz and it is much smoother.
What is happening is the cpu speed keeps throttling and jumping back to full speed causing problems
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Actually...still unsure...ideas anyone?
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"Problems" with CPU speed jumping up and down? Those are not problems but a design decision (jury is still out on whether the implementation is done right) to save energy.
Of course you can crank everything up to the max and never put peripherals or the CPU to sleep, but please don't start complaining when your battery runs flat before the day is done.
They set the ramp down cpu speed timer far too short. This can be modded in a kernel anyway.
Using a multi touch test we have at minimum 600x300 touch resolution, way more then enough to have lag free scrolling.
There's an acer android phone out with only about 32x 24 touch resolution. They manage
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I don't think it's related. I'm experiencing this even with the cpu locked in performance mode. On the other hand, using a multitouch test app, I was able to move a pointer pixel by pixel at what seemed to be the screen's full resolution, so touch res is not the cause.
It's quite annoying cause even if you want to launch a fast scroll of, say, your contact list, you get that initial ugly small stutter... when browsing the internet this ruins the experience even more, since you are likely to keep your fingertip on the screen more.
Dunno about you guys but uninstalling Gesture Search by Google fixed it for me.
Never had that on my phone...
Bump... am I the only one bothered by this?
Am I?...
Rizlo said:
Am I?...
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Could be, I had a HTC HD2 and it suffered from that problem alot. numerous videos have been posted on youtube because of it as well.
One possible way of minimizing the problem is to electrically discharge your screen, by putting an electric conductor, such as metal on it to remove and negative/postive ions still hanging around. Read that up somewhere and it somewhat helped my HD2.
Personally i have only experienced once on my Sgs and have not been able to replicate it since.
If you have big fingers that could also be a problem as the touch sensor can't decide on where to locate your finger...
Thank you for your answer! The electrical conductor you mentioned should go somewhere to discharge though... I can't walk around with a ground wire hanging from my phone all the time Plus, I really believe it's software. I know it always goes there but... iPhones have similar technology but they always scroll smooth. maybe it's interpolation we're missing here.
Btw I have particularly small hands!
Discharging it only has to be done only when the problem seems to be worsening. just try not to place your entire thumb on it but rather use the tips of yours fingers, that way it doesnt jerk.
I have to say this problem is pretty consistent, hence not worsening (or improving) whatsoever in any circumstances. It's just not fluid, ah my Touch HD used to be, but that was because of poor GPU (driver); we know that can't possibly be the case here, and as a matter of fact, regardless of load, stuff in the background etc, it's there all the time.
But as soon as you release the fingertip, the "inertial" part of the scrolling just goes as smooth as possible.
So I'd dismiss the electrostatic explanation, it seems like it was a non-interpolated low touch resolution... except that it's not...
Hi Folks, I have noticed the same problem running eclair 2.1 with Ryan's one click lag fix applied (the lag fix did speed it up quite a bit too!). It seems to do it after coming out of 'sleep' mode i.e when I wake it up from blank 'screen saver'. After a few scrolls or taps it starts to smoothen out a bit, but still not as I would like it to be.... Just my observations and sorry I can't offer up any Solutions... Any word if 2.2 update will make things better? Also, does anyone know when the update will hit Australia?
Welcome to android world, iphone users.
The world where not everything is super-smooth.
Actually it might be related to smoothing of touch input. Btw my scrolling is quite ok, but I come from Sybian world, world of lag.
xan said:
Welcome to android world, iphone users.
The world where not everything is super-smooth.
Actually it might be related to smoothing of touch input. Btw my scrolling is quite ok, but I come from Sybian world, world of lag.
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'smoothing of touch input'? could you please expand on this?
BTW - I Never owned an iFone, and don't really go for it's comunistic ways... (although some people take comfort in it! )
Hm, touchscreen sends raw data to driver (noisy, with peaks) to driver. Driver cleans and interprets them.. (unless its done in TS firmware)
I think that more cleaning and smoothing at this stage would result in smother scrolling, but not-so-precise tracking (when drawing, etc).
I'm just speculating here, because I have no real knowledge about this.
OK... Although it seems like there is a delay in reloading to short term memory when coming out of hibernation? Would this sound like a place to start looking? if so, anyone have any ideas on how to manipulate this function?
Hi!
I've been searching for a tool to take screnshots on Windows Phone, specially for the HTC Trophy, but I had no luck. Anyone know how to capture the screen?
Thanks!
given how the phone works at the moment, I don't believe it's possible. I think your best bet would be to merely use a camera and take the photo that way. There is no 3rd party multi-tasking [unless approved by MS], and therefore would be very little chance of finding an app to perform this task at this stage.
Thanks, Gate Keeper. Seems that the only thing we can do is wait. Too much issues for an OS.
yea there are still quite a few limitations i'll admit, but definitely like what is there at the moment, wouldn't you agree?
Totally agree. I like WP more than I expected.