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What do you think of the HD2 REAR speaker quality?
Could you state below why you think it is good or bad?
Do you have something to compare it to?
Is it better or worse than a Nokia? (I consider their speakers as rather good)
Not too hard to guess what the 1st person put, is it
Thread already running here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591011
Xeon said:
Thread already running here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591011
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That poll is called "Earpiece and voicecall quality". Hang on, you made it - you should know that! lol
This is for the speaker.
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That poll is called "Earpiece and voicecall quality". Hang on, you made it - you should know that! lol
This is for the speaker.
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Hmm.. OP please specify which speaker ie: back speaker just to make things clear.
Well john you got a point
Xeon said:
Hmm.. OP please specify which speaker ie: back speaker just to make things clear.
Well john you got a point
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Yes...
And my poll mainly concerns the REAR speaker.
The front speaker, is IMHO rather good.
Yerry said:
Yes...
And my poll mainly concerns the REAR speaker.
The front speaker, is IMHO rather good.
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Well I hope you've voted accordingly on Xeon's poll then
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Well I hope you've voted accordingly on Xeon's poll then
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Yes I did.
But my rear speaker...
Some ppl here are even saying good or brilliant. I figure HTC is using very cheap components and the spread between those must be huge.
I had luck on mine in terms of the earpiece, but I had no luck on the rear speaker.
It is a shame that a 100 Euro Nokia has a better speaker than my HD 2.
Guess I have to return it :-(
very bad rear speaker or audioprocessing algorithm. rear speaker sounds distorted all the time, no good for a handsfree phonecall or listening music. guess too much volume is pumped to the speaker. not gonna return device anyway. bluetooth headset or headphones.
Coming from iPhone it is very poor for music. Not that the iPhone is high fidelity in any way, but it's much richer. The HD2 speaker is tinny, but it works well for hands free voice, where I thought the iPhone was a bit a sharp and piercing.
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What do you think of the HD2 REAR speaker quality?
Could you state below why you think it is good or bad?
Do you have something to compare it to?
Is it better or worse than a Nokia? (I consider their speakers as rather good)
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I compare it with TP2 and there is no match. The sound from the HD2 is very distorted when the volume put to high. Still the TP2 is the best sound quality from HTC so far.
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I compare it with TP2 and there is no match. The sound from the HD2 is very distorted when the volume put to high. Still the TP2 is the best sound quality from HTC so far.
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The N95 is ridiculously better than ANY HTC device ever made, but that's got nothing to do with this poll, so let's not get into that. Likewise with your TP2 comment. The poll is what you think about the HD2 speaker. It's not asking for comparisons.
ok...given that the rear speaker is tiny , am not expecting much but what i dislike is that the sound is garbled and not clear!
I use the speakerphone a lot for con calls...and compared to my n958gb...the sound is less loud (which is okay) but not clear at all....garbled...where I cannot distinguish properly what is being said
I think my rear speaker is ok, but I do get a lot of distortion at high volume through the 3.5mm out which is annoying.
i find my hd2 speakers to be very well made. not earpiercing at all and sound quality is on par and even better than sony's walkman phones and nokia's express music models
I'm pretty sure that aside from the Touch pro 2 HTC use loudspeaker components meant for musical birthday cards. The sound on the HD2 and all the other HTC devices I've owned (including the G1, Magic and Hero) has been appaling compared to all the non-HTC devices I've owned such as the Nokia 5800, iPhone 3gS, Samsung Galaxy, Omnia 2 and Motorola Dext.
It's such a shame that HTC let themselves down like this with their speaker and camera hardware as the BUILD quality of their devices is as good as it gets in my opinion, I just wish they'd stop using crappy parts.
I'm certain the Desire I have on order will also have a crap loudspeaker too.
Just played the same trailer on the HD2 and iPhone YouTube apps and the difference in sound richness - no matter what volume - is deflating.
The "loud"speaker on the rear of the unit isn't really that loud and becomes very tinny when set to a high volume. Bass is non-existent (not surprisingly).
Works OK for a small conference in quiet surroundings but is not suited for a larger group, noisy surrondings and certainly not music!
This is one of the very few areas where TP2 is miles ahead of it's cooler brother - HD2. The conferencing-ability of the TP2, including the rear speaker, is in my opinion brilliant!
....also I don't mean to be a negative nancy but those who have voted the HD2 rear speaker to be 'brilliant' must either have aural deficiencies, have never heard the speakers on a non HTC device or refuse to accept any negative criticism of their beloved device.
There is no smartphone I have come across in the past 18 months that had worse speakers than a HTC-made handset. Most of my friends have some form of HTC device and without prompting all of them have at some point mentioned the poor speaker quality. HTC's speakers have no dynamics to them, so any talking with background noise turns into an incomprehensible mess. On an iPhone or Nokia XPressMusic I can happily listen to my favourite podcasts and music through the loudspeaker but with an HTC device my timpanic membrane is left shuddering as if I had been trapped in a metal dustbin and struck repeatedly with an iron hammer.
So if I can I use a speaker dock.
crap
This is my third HTC made device - PDA2K, TYTN II and now HD2. I must say i am not an audiophile. TYTN II was not too bad, but HD2 is pretty bad. Bought my wife an iphone 3GS (got it cheap as upgrade on phone plan)
my HD2 is embarrasing as a music player compared to the Iphone.
I have had to buy a set of earphones Stenheiser for it, the included ones were crap too. For a NZ$1000 phone, it's unacceptable.
The rear speaker is OK but distorts at volume.
So how is the full speaker is it that great?
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i ordered the phone online without seeing it in real life first.. it was thicker heavier and generally bigger than i expected.. also thought it seemed weird that only a speaker slid out and not a keyboard..
i was considering returning it but i decided against it. the on screen keyboard is good enough and the speaker has been clutch on multiple occasions.. when my friend didnt have a car stereo and when everyone was too lazy and stoned to get up and put music on
so yea speaker is cool for when you need somewhat loud sound.. dont expect a great battery life doing that though
dont listen to him,
haha its a pretty good phone
the speakers pretty sick with the stand great for showing off/playing music for your friends
woah i didnt expect this thread would be graced by the presence of a senior member!!! BOW DOWN TO THE MAGNIFICENT SQUIDBUTT.. lol.. what if he doesnt have friends did you ever think of that?? jerk
Quite an improvement over the old Fuze (TP) even with the lack of a slideout keyboard. I do like the speaker as it has been clutch for me as well for a few phone calls, some decent music and NFS. Other games are good with it too.
PS: Empire6, now you have a retired moderator in here. Behave, LOL.
Hi guys I wanted to ask you atrix users about the phones speakers. This is very important to me my phone (nexus one) sucks in comparison to the iPhone 4 speaker. I recently was out at a busy restaurant and I had to take calls on my friends iPhone 4 because I couldn't hear a thing on my nexus (with pershoots audio boost kernel) to be honest I'm getting sick and tired of my phone now. I want somthing new and the atrix looks like the phone for me. One thing I need to to know betore buying it is if the speaker in call on the phone and the loud speaker is any better or similar to the iPhone 4 . I love android but I find myself finding more things the iPhone does better and for I need a phone that means I don't miss out on what my clients are saying. I really hate the iPhone I think its just a brand whores dildo but it can do the basic stuff my phone can do but does it better.
this pjone had the loudest speaker you will hear on a phone. That is one thing I def. Cannot complain about.
+1. It has a pretty descent speaker. Its definitely louder than iPhone4
The loud speakers are years ahead of the iPhones toy speakers.
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Loudest speaker on any phone I have ever owned. I run it at half volume normally. At max volume it can get slightly distorted but is still understandable -- an excellent tradeoff for use in loud environments.
And using it as a speakerphone works great too. Very loud and even the mic seems to work fine for two people on opposite sides of a small table with the phone horizontal in the middle.
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this pjone had the loudest speaker you will hear on a phone. That is one thing I def. Cannot complain about.
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Gonna add onto the thread, speakerphone is very loud...competes with my old blackberry bold
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i was just gonna ask this: anyone know the code or hack to make the speaker louder?
FYI my samsung impression got a louder speaker with the code.
Its been said many times before, but I'm at the beach streaming music and the sound quality is SUPERB. no need to ever bring a stereo to the beach ever again.
Very happy with the atrix right now
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Agreed!!! Sounds way better than any of my iPhones.
I agree also, I stream music all day at work.
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i must admit, the speaker on the atrix is pretty awesome. the only thing i dont like is theres only one of them. ive noticed that a lot of new smartphones only seem to be packing a mono speaker nowadays.
on my old n900, there were two speakers. sure, the clarity at high volumes doesnt compare to that of the speaker on my atrix, but the stereo speakers were particularly good at filling up an entire room. ah well, maybe motorola will throw in an extra speaker with the successor to the atrix whenever its announced.
IPhone sounds way better IMO. Louder and clearer. I tried to battle my dad one day with the same songs. Iphone was superb. And. I am an iphone hater. Fir the record.
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But you guys are proving why Am radio endured against FM Stereo for so many years, and why mono "HiFi" endured on phonographs.
You've got tin ears.
The speaker on the Atrix may sound OK to you, and that's just fine. It is after all intended ot be a "communications grade" speaker and telephony and radio communications pretty much only covers a narrow range from 300-3000 Hertz.
Good audio equipment covers 20-20,000 Hz. and people with good ears can usually hear over 15,000Hz without any trouble. On the other hand, too many rock concerts or plain old age can cut you down to a 50db hearing loss at 5000 Hz, worse above that, and 50db is A LOT.
The Atrix speakers are not awesome. They are not audio quality. Listen to your Atrix, plug in a decent pair of earphones and listen again. If you can't tell the difference...you've got tin ears.
The good news is, you'll never be bothered by ultrasonic traffic detectors and burglar alarms. Which some of us can hear as an almost painful annoying whine.
It's not SuperPhone. Moto didn't bless it with audiophile quality speakers. It beats the old 9v-transistor AM radio...it beats the old Philips CarryCorder, which was revolutionary in the late 60's. But awesome?
Guys, you need to raise the bar!
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But you guys are proving why Am radio endured against FM Stereo for so many years, and why mono "HiFi" endured on phonographs.
You've got tin ears.
The speaker on the Atrix may sound OK to you, and that's just fine. It is after all intended ot be a "communications grade" speaker and telephony and radio communications pretty much only covers a narrow range from 300-3000 Hertz.
Good audio equipment covers 20-20,000 Hz. and people with good ears can usually hear over 15,000Hz without any trouble. On the other hand, too many rock concerts or plain old age can cut you down to a 50db hearing loss at 5000 Hz, worse above that, and 50db is A LOT.
The Atrix speakers are not awesome. They are not audio quality. Listen to your Atrix, plug in a decent pair of earphones and listen again. If you can't tell the difference...you've got tin ears.
The good news is, you'll never be bothered by ultrasonic traffic detectors and burglar alarms. Which some of us can hear as an almost painful annoying whine.
It's not SuperPhone. Moto didn't bless it with audiophile quality speakers. It beats the old 9v-transistor AM radio...it beats the old Philips CarryCorder, which was revolutionary in the late 60's. But awesome?
Guys, you need to raise the bar!
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you do realize how stupid you look starting an audiophile masturbation over a phone speaker?
why do smug "audiophiles" annoy me more than any other sort of trolls on this forum... hmmm...
p.s. i do have expensive headphones and speakers which i use at home
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My brothers incredible sounds way better than my atrix, but i still like it alot. compared to my previous phones.
swanga, you don't need thousand dollar equipment to hear the difference. $50 earphones, $100 earphones...you'll hear it unless you have hearing loss. Same thing in speakers, a $100 pair of small speakers will be a day/night difference.
Good audio, by any standards, from a speaker the size of my fingernail is a laugh. good audio from a speaker that size, loud enough to be heard at a beach over the ambient sounds...ROFLMAO.
More important is the question of the internal digital to analog conversion, and curiously enough NO PHONE MAKER including Apple for their iPod, discusses the quality or lack of quality in that critical audio component.
The thousand-dollar alleged audiophile companies....some of them are in another reality too. No need to go there.<G>
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swanga, you don't need thousand dollar equipment to hear the difference. $50 earphones, $100 earphones...you'll hear it unless you have hearing loss. Same thing in speakers, a $100 pair of small speakers will be a day/night difference.
Good audio, by any standards, from a speaker the size of my fingernail is a laugh. good audio from a speaker that size, loud enough to be heard at a beach over the ambient sounds...ROFLMAO.
More important is the question of the internal digital to analog conversion, and curiously enough NO PHONE MAKER including Apple for their iPod, discusses the quality or lack of quality in that critical audio component.
The thousand-dollar alleged audiophile companies....some of them are in another reality too. No need to go there.<G>
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I have to agree with you on this one, and I'm NOT an audiophile, hell, I probably have that hearing loss you were talking about. The speaker is not good, it's not amazing, but I will say it is at least decent.
Also, why do people have conniptions over something so menial?
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I have to agree with you on this one, and I'm NOT an audiophile, hell, I probably have that hearing loss you were talking about. The speaker is not good, it's not amazing, but I will say it is at least decent.
Also, why do people have conniptions over something so menial?
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I think what people are saying is that the audio is pretty great for a phone speaker.
Unless I missed something, I don't recall anyone saying they would be ditching their Senheissers to listen to music on the phone speaker. For what it is, it is pretty darn good. Why do people have to act like such snobs sometimes?
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Sorry Erebus, most of that was directed at Rred.
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swanga, you don't need thousand dollar equipment to hear the difference. $50 earphones, $100 earphones...you'll hear it unless you have hearing loss. Same thing in speakers, a $100 pair of small speakers will be a day/night difference.
Good audio, by any standards, from a speaker the size of my fingernail is a laugh. good audio from a speaker that size, loud enough to be heard at a beach over the ambient sounds...ROFLMAO.
More important is the question of the internal digital to analog conversion, and curiously enough NO PHONE MAKER including Apple for their iPod, discusses the quality or lack of quality in that critical audio component.
The thousand-dollar alleged audiophile companies....some of them are in another reality too. No need to go there.<G>
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Well of course a phone speaker is going to suck compared to anything actually meant to play music. But in all practicality the speaker is good enough to have music playing in the background. You don't always need audiophile quality and this is coming from someone who has spent wayyyyy to much money on various pieces audio equipment.
And as for the DAC its actually quite decent. Its a lower level wolfson chip which is way better then most phones expect for the GSII. And the reasons companies don't talk about that particular spec is the relatively small number of people who care about it.
Don't go trashing on people who are enjoying an aspect of a product that they wouldn't have expected. Yeah sure its might be frustrating that some people don't know the joys of high end audio. But despite popular belief being an audiophile does not require you to be condescending about your knowledge. Its way more rewarding for me to have someone under the impression that beats by dre are the best thing since sliced bread listen to my beyerdynamic dt770s and see their jaw drop then to tell them they are ignorant and wasted their money.
All of what you said was technically correct but you can bet that most people here will write you off as just another pretentious audiophile with the way you said it.
"Don't go trashing on people who are"
Personally I'd only trash a troll. And I'm not the one who brought thousand-dollar audio into this.
But to call this audio "awesome", either someone IS a troll, or they're just a newb that needs to put it in perspective. Perspective is good, trolls are bad. Whether "awesome" being not awesome is a good thing, bad thing, or just a speed bump...anyone getting bent out of shape to hear that this is not awesome aduio by any of today's standards, has other issues.
So let's focus back on the reality of the Atrix speaker quality and leave the rest to Lucy's Nickel Therapy Stand.
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I find that while streaming audio at the beach, audio quality is greatly imroved by placing your Atrix in a plastic cup and into a hole in the sand dug out to the depth and width of a Paradigm Signature S8 speaker.
Sure, you lose a little depth of sound but the increase in mid tones and bass is amazing.
Chill out guys!
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But to call this audio "awesome", either someone IS a troll, or they're just a newb that needs to put it in perspective. Perspective is good, trolls are bad. Whether "awesome" being not awesome is a good thing, bad thing, or just a speed bump...anyone getting bent out of shape to hear that this is not awesome aduio by any of today's standards, has other issues.
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I think you are the one that needs some perspective. Nobody is saying that the speakers audio quality is as good as $100 speakers, they're saying that the audio on the atrix is 'awesome' for a smartphone. Comparing the speaker with some other smartphones out there and I tend to agree, the speaker is great.
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Who needs a boom box then?
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Lol I didn't mean for this thread to turn into discussion on semantics and speakers
I was just amazed that I was on a busy beach on July 4th weekend and I could still hear my music perfectly. I also has a few drinks so I may have been a little more enthusiastic then normal
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Hey all, the audio quality from the speakers are supposed to be a selling point of the phone.. not many reviewers speak about it in the video review or even give an example of what it sounds like... so not intuitive and extra frustrating lol. Does anyone have it and can compare it to the HTC one boom sound quality or the Iphone 4s good speaker quality? Now that i have an HTC One, the only way i would go to the LG G2 is if the audio quality from the speakers hold up to the hype LG displayed at their event. replies are appreciated.
Im with you as no review has done anything with the sound. I will say in this phonearena review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVA7jg1KB-k&feature=youtube_gdata_player that he says although the G2 sounds great it doesnt have the depth the htc one has with its boom sound but that still leaves us in the dark.
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Im with you as no review has done anything with the sound. I will say in this phonearena review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVA7jg1KB-k&feature=youtube_gdata_player that he says although the G2 sounds great it doesnt have the depth the htc one has with its boom sound but that still leaves us in the dark.
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yeah i watched that yesterday... again left in the dark... i was hoping that it sounded close to the HTC One as it's the best audio i've heard on a phone next to the Iphone 4 and 4s. thanks for the reply!
Are you talking about audio from the external speaker, or audio out to headphones? If external speaker, I'm thinking you'd be disappointed vs. the HTC One, as the G2 only has a single mono speaker on the bottom right as you face the screen. The grill on the bottom left is the microphone.
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Im with you as no review has done anything with the sound. I will say in this phonearena review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVA7jg1KB-k&feature=youtube_gdata_player that he says although the G2 sounds great it doesnt have the depth the htc one has with its boom sound but that still leaves us in the dark.
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Are you talking about audio from the external speaker, or audio out to headphones? If external speaker, I'm thinking you'd be disappointed vs. the HTC One, as the G2 only has a single mono speaker on the bottom right as you face the screen. The grill on the bottom left is the microphone.
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yeah i was referring to the External speakers and thats a bummer.. i thought they were stereo speakers with two at the bottom... something like the apple has at the bottom of their iphone. I really like the phone from reviews and if the speakers are better than the Note 3 lets say or any other LG smart phone, i may be inclined to get it... seems like no phone is as good as the htc one just yet
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yeah i was referring to the External speakers and thats a bummer.. i thought they were stereo speakers with two at the bottom... something like the apple has at the bottom of their iphone. I really like the phone from reviews and if the speakers are better than the Note 3 lets say or any other LG smart phone, i may be inclined to get it... seems like no phone is as good as the htc one just yet
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I don't know if i'd let the speakers bother you, much. Then again i can't tell you what and what not to do.
A phone will never have audiophile sound from speakers. Sure, we can justify it sounding good because of what it is. I've heard the iphone speakers and i've heard the htc speakers. Yes, for a phone they are great, but that's about it. With that being said, i'd never rock out with phone speakers. They help get the point across, but i'll be reaching for hi-end gear to make those beautiful music notes shine.
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I don't know if i'd let the speakers bother you, much. Then again i can't tell you what and what not to do.
A phone will never have audiophile sound from speakers. Sure, we can justify it sounding good because of what it is. I've heard the iphone speakers and i've heard the htc speakers. Yes, for a phone they are great, but that's about it. With that being said, i'd never rock out with phone speakers. They help get the point across, but i'll be reaching for hi-end gear to make those beautiful music notes shine.
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right.. but the reason i'm intrigued is because they're supposed to be really good.. LG had a presentation on the speakers. The Htc one sounds very very good.. it could come out of the box louder but there's a way you can make them louder and still sound crisp. It's second to none i've tried so far. going to something lesser than hurts the mind and deprives the ears when you know there's a better option.
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I don't know if i'd let the speakers bother you, much. Then again i can't tell you what and what not to do.
A phone will never have audiophile sound from speakers. Sure, we can justify it sounding good because of what it is. I've heard the iphone speakers and i've heard the htc speakers. Yes, for a phone they are great, but that's about it. With that being said, i'd never rock out with phone speakers. They help get the point across, but i'll be reaching for hi-end gear to make those beautiful music notes shine.
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Are you talking about audio from the external speaker, or audio out to headphones? If external speaker, I'm thinking you'd be disappointed vs. the HTC One, as the G2 only has a single mono speaker on the bottom right as you face the screen. The grill on the bottom left is the microphone.
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and i was just looking at the phone and it does look like two speakers at the bottom left and right. are you sure?
The Hi-Fi sound is in regards to being able to play 24 bit/192kHz Hi-Fi playback. The only way to take advantage of this is having high enough quality media and using a nice set of headphones. The external speaker has nothing to do with this, and from what I've seen it's not all that great.
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The Hi-Fi sound is in regards to being able to play 24 bit/192kHz Hi-Fi playback. The only way to take advantage of this is having high enough quality media and using a nice set of headphones. The external speaker has nothing to do with this, and from what I've seen it's not all that great.
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ooooooo i see what u mean now... that's why they have those different type of headphones that comes with the phone. well that sums it up.. probably answers the question of why no one is talking about the external speakers.. they're just regular lol
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ooooooo i see what u mean now... that's why they have those different type of headphones that comes with the phone. well that sums it up.. probably answers the question of why no one is talking about the external speakers.. they're just regular lol
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hehe, yup. Definitely a cool feature if you like quality sounding music though.
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and i was just looking at the phone and it does look like two speakers at the bottom left and right. are you sure?
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99.9% sure, based on a post I read from someone who already has the phone, as well as the phone's manual, which only draws a line to one grill with the "Speaker" label. No manual is perfect, but I'm fairly confident that a split line would have been drawn to each grill if it had stereo external speakers.
Right side is the only speaker. It sounds better than the GS4, but not as good as the HTC One.
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Look at the Verizon version... It has speakers only on right side.
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No version has 2 speakers, the other grill is the mic.
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The speaker(s) on the lg g2 do sound better than the s3. Can't comment on the s4. The lg g2 is more warm sounding and higher pitched timbre's sound more realistic vs the s3. They are of equal sound volume, however.
It's about as loud as my n4 but actually has more bass, not saying its much, but its more than a n4 or gs3.
i hate the fact that there's a built in compressor/limiter on the speakers, and there's some kind of weird stereo thing going on where it might only be giving ONE channel, rather than both left/right out of the speaker.
i rememebr reading on the international version that there was EQ settings and whatnot somewhere...wonder if we can unlock them somehow? then maybe we can turn that stupid limiter off.
Hey guys...dont know whether this has been asked before but i really dont know if this g2 has 1 or 2 speakers. Cos the sound only comes out of the right speaker. But in the manual looks like it has 2 speakers...can someone help me here? Thanks
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mab71 said:
Hey guys...dont know whether this has been asked before but i really dont know if this g2 has 1 or 2 speakers. Cos the sound only comes out of the right speaker. But in the manual looks like it has 2 speakers...can someone help me here? Thanks
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Right side is the ONLY speaker, though it 'looks like' 2 in the bottom.