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Anyone else notice that the frequency of new ROMs and updates are scarce on the N1? I assume its because the phone is overkill for the now and doesn't need too many optimizations. Just an observation I made coming from the G1.
P.S. I am not criticizing cyanogen, enomother, modaco, etc. at all, if I thought it was truly a problem, I would try to learn it myself. I am just curious as to why and what other people thought.
crazyyellowguy said:
Anyone else notice that the frequency of new ROMs and updates are scarce on the N1? I assume its because the phone is overkill for the now and doesn't need too many optimizations. Just an observation I made coming from the G1.
P.S. I am not criticizing cyanogen, enomother, modaco, etc. at all, if I thought it was truly a problem, I would try to learn it myself. I am just curious as to why and what other people thought.
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The phone is just over 1 month old... so, not every dev has made the switch, and Cyan Enom and Modaco kinda did about the only things that could be done right now; Make an AOSP ROM and a modded version of the stock ROM.
They got us a kernel with the missing RAM, root for our devices, and Amon got us his custom recovery. We have every feature any other hacked Android phone has, except a SenseUI ROM, and that is going to take a couple things before it can happen, namely a dump of a SenseUI ROM scaled to our screen resolution.
So I've been on verizon as long as I can remember, (previous droid and droid X owner), but due to financial issues my family is moving to sprint, which includes me. I'm no stranger to the ROM game, i've flashed more ROMs and done so many nandroid backups i've lost count. So basically what i'm asking is what's the best ROMs for the Evo? I recall seeing something mid-september of the Desire HD rom's, but remember no 4g connectivity and camera, did that ever pan out? And as far as kernel's go anything specific I should be using? And lastly i'm assuming z4root works on the Evo without a hitch? Thanks
I see you're also no stranger to doing no research .
I use MIUI. You should know everything is personal opinion. Try em and see what you like.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App
Most people seem to be using CM ROM and others find DMG control or others more stable or whatever. I personally go between MIUI and CM depending on my tastes for the month.
Overall, both are two great ROMs, just find one that suits your taste and customize ability.
as others have stated before its all a matter of opinion i personally like Azrael X for sense and everything works cam 4G and what not for aosp i like CM6.1. kernels is a crapshoot since all phones like different things my phone likes CFS kernels and can be agressively undervolted without a problem some phones won't work with those conditions so you have to see what works for you. And Z4root does not work anymore your best bet will be the long way using the Fresh like pine cones thread or universal root by xhausx if your really lucky you and you get a older HBOOT phone like .97 or lower you can use unrEVOked. Hope you found any of this helpful
I like Cyanogen, personally. It runs really well, and I can live without 4G.
Many people, including me, like the heavily themed myns warm twopointtwo. Try them all see what you like. I will probably switch to cm once 4g is working for it though.
If I were you I'd take a look at all of the different ROM threads and get a feel both for the ROM and the community that supports that ROM. I've used Vaelpak, Fresh, and now I'm on Myn's Warm. I've liked them all but Warm is my absolute favorite.
When going through the threads you can get a real sense for the amount of support for that ROM and how much customization is available. I'd make a list of what's important to you also. Aesthetics is HUGE for me and I want a ROM that looks and feels good. Most AOSP functions look quite clunky to me and I wasn't a big fan of the Sense clock. But between Warm and the various customizations I was able to make it look how I wanted it to.
Be warned that there's thousands of pages to dig through so it's going to just take a lot of sampling on your part to figure out which one really suits you. If you ask 30 people you'll get a different answer each time so take our advice with a grain of salt.
james
Myn's ROM is amazing and it has 4G connectivity. I HIGHLY recommend it.
I'd second what JB said - the fresh like pine cones method works for newer EVO's. I got mine just after the hboot changed and went through about a week and a half of pain in the neck trying to get it rooted, and finally the revised method in that thread worked for me. Then I rooted another EVO using that method - in an hour flat. I would definitely recommend following that method very closely.
As to roms it's personal. I'm running avafroyo v10 and I like it, but I haven't tried a whole bunch of them so take that with a grain of salt. fresh worked pretty smoothly as well, but ava seems a bit faster IMO.
Having a hero and having enjoyed watching the development of Damageless and Flipz's rom, I use a stock rooted conservative rom on the EVO. I like sense (with all it's overhead). Kingx's kernels (with links that are banned on this site) are free and work well with the stock roms. I'm using BFS11 and twelve depending on the week.
So it's a matter of personal preference, and these are mine. Good luck.
there is no bad rom, they are all great, there are lots of fanboys that side with their rom more vocally than others (looking at the myns followers) but you wont go wrong with any, if your in need of 4g stick with a sense based, if 4g isn't a concern try an aosp variant, all roms have their own thread and you can get a great idea of the support behind them and problems that each have, I recommend flashing them all like I have so you get the best first hand experience then find a good kernel to pair with it
I also recommend you make a nandroid backup using amon ra 1.8 recovery to save your rsa keys then using clockwork so you can use rom manager to flash your roms as its super easy and requires little hands on during the process
Check out this site. This dude put alot of work into checking out which ROM's and Kernel's are good. Great site.
http://home.comcast.net/~evobenchers/index.html
I just wanted to get a feel/consensus on peoples opinion of the third party rom scene for the EVO. I started my XDA days back with a tilt, and have been loyal to HTC since then.
The EVO is simply the best phone out there at the moment, IMO. But the roms seem to be very lacking in actual substance and it's a bit disappointing.
Almost every rom I've looked at here has been so customized and themed they are really just eyesores. It was normal on all my other devices to have some of the roms that were being produced be like this, but not all. I've been really impressed in the past with HTC roms. Dutty is one of my favorites.
The only 2 current exceptions I've found are CM and Fresh, and since some of us refuse to use sense, it really only leaves one choice.
CM is awesome, and the work that goes into it is really really amazing. There isn't a bunch of customization to the UI, it's left up to you what you want to do for how your phone looks. It's a rock solid foundation to build upon, and it would be awesome to see more roms in that form.
Thoughts? Am I missing something?
This is the wrong section, the General section would be the appropriate section for this.
this should be in general, but i agree it seems that lots of roms out there are just customizations of existing roms, a color change here and there. There really isnt anything major to differentiate between sense roms, except for 3 or 4 big ones, and then there is CM rom, and the roms based of CM seem like just themed version of CM, but who knows i mean im not a developer, maybe theres only so much one can do as far as development.
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The EVO is simply the best phone out there at the moment, IMO. But the roms seem to be very lacking in actual substance and it's a bit disappointing.
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Thoughts? Am I missing something?
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Better get started developing.
What else do you want the ROM's out there to do?:
OC: Check
Undervolt: Check
AOSP Builds: Check
Open Source 4G: Check
De-odex: Check
Wide Variety of Themes: Check
Open Source FM Radio: Check
Wireless Tether: Check
Wired Tether: Check
Gingerbread: Check
AND THE LIST GOES ON...
What I'm trying to say is, unless your speaking specifically about HDMI, there's really not a lot left to be desired that can't be had from these phones until Honeycomb hits.
I mean, CM even supports SIP accounts natively...among the millions of other small details that are so amazing.
Even DLNA can be had through a simple app...what's left for you to want so badly that your phone cannot do already?
My point is, is that most devs are not going start over from scratch just for the heck of it, when something so close to optimum potential has already been reached.
Sent from my 4G-Toting, Lightning Smoking, Gingerfied, Cyanogenmodded EVO: Please stand back!
Itotally disagree. I mean, some, yeah, you're right, but look at the mods done to the more popular roms. Not just theming but tweaks, custome apps, etc.
What more do you want form a ROM?
And while, true, some people are married to CM, some are more into Senseui, some Miui.
Everyone has different tastes, and from what I se eon here, there's something for just about everyone.
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As per your questions, devs make roms based on their personal taste and, in many cases, general feedback from the users. There are many plain, stock rooted roms out there, and many tutorials in case you want to make your own as well. Also, you can easily theme any rom to your liking. I hope this answers your concern.
i think the ROM's on the evo are pretty strong. My criteria is, do the majority if not all ROM's improve upon stock? Yes. Do the majority if not all the dev's support their ROM's and upgrade in a timely manner? Yes Do the majority if not all the dev's have themes/mods available for their ROMS? Yes. Are there more than one style of ROM's to choose? YES 1. Sense 2. AOSP - MIUI 3. AOSP - CM 4. AOSP - Liquid metal
easedrop said:
I just wanted to get a feel/consensus on peoples opinion of the third party rom scene for the EVO. I started my XDA days back with a tilt, and have been loyal to HTC since then.
The EVO is simply the best phone out there at the moment, IMO. But the roms seem to be very lacking in actual substance and it's a bit disappointing.
Almost every rom I've looked at here has been so customized and themed they are really just eyesores. It was normal on all my other devices to have some of the roms that were being produced be like this, but not all. I've been really impressed in the past with HTC roms. Dutty is one of my favorites.
The only 2 current exceptions I've found are CM and Fresh, and since some of us refuse to use sense, it really only leaves one choice.
CM is awesome, and the work that goes into it is really really amazing. There isn't a bunch of customization to the UI, it's left up to you what you want to do for how your phone looks. It's a rock solid foundation to build upon, and it would be awesome to see more roms in that form.
Thoughts? Am I missing something?
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There are way more. Click my signature and you'll see
my EVO is way cooler than yours
Except your link is broken...
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Yes. MIUI.
the OP ... is expectiong way too much....
you do relize for most.. this is a good little hobby..
so is done around free time...
you want more... you do it! I dont have the skills to even try.
I do appreciate the ones that can... and do.
there are a lot of phones out in the market. and not all phones even have a dev community.. and if they do, it aint that big.
so there are different levels of dev support from phone to phone.
EVO, is way up there in the level of quality devs and community support.
Fixed my sig, forgot i changed the link. But there are a Sh*t ton of choices, my count is at 144 thus far
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Yes. MIUI.
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+1... this.
I've had 4 Android phones:
Evo
G2
MyTouch 3g Slide
Moto Cliq
This forum has more roms, kernels, mods, themes, etc than all 3 of my prior phones combined. Every time I hit the dev section I'm a kid in the candy store. There's fully functioning roms that work with everything and a few that I'm excited to see get better, like MIUI getting 4g.
There's very few phones out there with this much dev support, my friend has an LG vortex. Go find the LG vortex section of the forums. They don't exist.
My point, you have to do some digging but there's something here for everyone. If there isn't, make it! We could always use another dev to try to topple the big dogs.
So I've noticed a lot, and I mean, a lot less stuff on the development forum and just wondering if we're pretty much at the limits of our phones.
I appreciate all the work done for our phones, but I hate seeing that we're essentially gone.
Anyways, looking for maybe future roms in the works or something different I should try out. change it up a bit.
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So I've noticed a lot, and I mean, a lot less stuff on the development forum and just wondering if we're pretty much at the limits of our phones.
I appreciate all the work done for our phones, but I hate seeing that we're essentially gone.
Anyways, looking for maybe future roms in the works or something different I should try out. change it up a bit.
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What are you running now? You have variants of gingerbread: Jaybob's, deck,cm7, omgb and omfgb 2.3.4 and 2.3.5, you have WildHeroc (2.3.3) with 2.1 sense and some 3.0 goodies, and you have iHero (2.3.2) which is some ios fun and different tweaks and themes too. Also, there have been some great kernel developments (.35) which is probably going to be crucial in pushing the Hero's limits even further.
Remember, we never got an update from htc above 2.1 update 1. We have a lot for a mdpi phone. We will never have MIUI most likely, but my phone is flying now and a lot more fun than when I 1st got it.
Maybe you can come up with something that hasn't been thought of yet?
Most of the guys developing for the hero don't even have one, or if they do, it is only to test what they are developing; they are not activated.
My $.02.
You think Meth is bad? Try being a flash whore with a Gingerbread habit and a legacy device! It ain't pretty.
Yea I've been running Pure GB, with jaybobs kernel.
I've seen the different roms and such; actually liked the iOS one that was made, but honestly performance for me is key. No lag or issues, so probably why I've stuck with 2.3.x
Overall I've just seen a lot of the same gingerbread roms, maybe a few minor tweaks here and there, but overall the same.
I'm not the flashaholic I once was. For one thing, most ROMS are just copies of each other. When I had the Moment, each ROM that came out was unique in many ways. Either in the theming (Roms never have theming in them anymore, they're either black or white) or in the kernel that came with the ROM, had JIT, or didn't, etc. Something new, something different. The EVO was the same way and the Devs for those phones were held to a high standard. Almost put on a pedestal. You never saw ROMS come out that were based on someone else's work, like Slim Based, etc.
Now it's just a free-for-all. I look through the ROMS here on XDA and all I see are the same thing, over and over. And all with a LOT of bugs. Look at the new Validus, 2/2 is apparently a nightmare. 1/25 had issues. I'm on 1/23 and it's OK, but battery life is worse than anything I've run on the Nexus 6 Not horrible, but nothing like I was getting on earlier versions. The First Validus ROM we all flashed over at Team US Cellular, long before it was ever ON XDA, was awesome. Now I can't add the date to the Status Bar?? Huh?
Also, Wug updated his tool kit to 2.0.3 and people are having issues with that, too, getting root. Why?? It was working fine at 1.9.9 and at 2.02
WTH?? It used to be updates meant fixes and improvements after thorough testing. Now it's updates just for the sake up updating??? The Dev community has really steadily gone downhill in many ways since the earliest days of Android. A lot of GREAT ones out here still, but something has definitely changed over the years. Or am I just missing something?
Try Chroma rom. Runs good for me.
I think that I've noticed since I moved from phones with a skinned stock ROM (HTC Sense, Touchwiz, etc) to Nexus devices is that there is less variation in ROM's because there's no OEM skin version to use as a base.
I remember on the Desire HD there were so many variations of the Sense ROM's (2.5, 3, 3.5) and even then you had de-Sensed versions too.
Whilst I would never go back to a non-Nexus device I do kind of miss the variety like you mentioned. The other edge of this sword is that I tend to find that Nexus ROM's are more complete with little or none major non-working functions like the camera, gps, etc that you might find in non-stock ROM's for skinned devices.
All credit to the developers though, especially one's who come out with original ideas and functions that no one's been able to either think of or implement before. I reckon that's the sign of true development, not just copying another ROM and changing the theme, adding/removing certain apps, implementing copied scripts.
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I think that I've noticed since I moved from phones with a skinned stock ROM (HTC Sense, Touchwiz, etc) to Nexus devices is that there is less variation in ROM's because there's no OEM skin version to use as a base.
I remember on the Desire HD there were so many variations of the Sense ROM's (2.5, 3, 3.5) and even then you had de-Sensed versions too.
Whilst I would never go back to a non-Nexus device I do kind of miss the variety like you mentioned. The other edge of this sword is that I tend to find that Nexus ROM's are more complete with little or none major non-working functions like the camera, gps, etc that you might find in non-stock ROM's for skinned devices.
All credit to the developers though, especially one's who come out with original ideas and functions that no one's been able to either think of or implement before. I reckon that's the sign of true development, not just copying another ROM and changing the theme, adding/removing certain apps, implementing copied scripts.
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Those are good points. Like with the Evo, it was Sense or Not Sense, so there was more variety. And not to dis anyone dev'ing any ROM's. It's much appreciated work on any level
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I'm not the flashaholic I once was. For one thing, most ROMS are just copies of each other. When I had the Moment, each ROM that came out was unique in many ways. Either in the theming (Roms never have theming in them anymore, they're either black or white) or in the kernel that came with the ROM, had JIT, or didn't, etc. Something new, something different. The EVO was the same way and the Devs for those phones were held to a high standard. Almost put on a pedestal. You never saw ROMS come out that were based on someone else's work, like Slim Based, etc.
Now it's just a free-for-all. I look through the ROMS here on XDA and all I see are the same thing, over and over. And all with a LOT of bugs. Look at the new Validus, 2/2 is apparently a nightmare. 1/25 had issues. I'm on 1/23 and it's OK, but battery life is worse than anything I've run on the Nexus 6 Not horrible, but nothing like I was getting on earlier versions. The First Validus ROM we all flashed over at Team US Cellular, long before it was ever ON XDA, was awesome. Now I can't add the date to the Status Bar?? Huh?
Also, Wug updated his tool kit to 2.0.3 and people are having issues with that, too, getting root. Why?? It was working fine at 1.9.9 and at 2.02
WTH?? It used to be updates meant fixes and improvements after thorough testing. Now it's updates just for the sake up updating??? The Dev community has really steadily gone downhill in many ways since the earliest days of Android. A lot of GREAT ones out here still, but something has definitely changed over the years. Or am I just missing something?
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you had the Moment?....oh god i remember those days...and how absolute s**t that phone was
What are you providing to Development? And if ROMs are not to your liking, there is always Stock. Nothing wrong with Stock. Where is your ROM?
Rant, Thread Closed. There is no reason to bash Development and or Individual ROMs, that are provided freely.
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I'm not the flashaholic I once was. For one thing, most ROMS are just copies of each other. When I had the Moment, each ROM that came out was unique in many ways. Either in the theming (Roms never have theming in them anymore, they're either black or white) or in the kernel that came with the ROM, had JIT, or didn't, etc. Something new, something different. The EVO was the same way and the Devs for those phones were held to a high standard. Almost put on a pedestal. You never saw ROMS come out that were based on someone else's work, like Slim Based, etc.
Now it's just a free-for-all. I look through the ROMS here on XDA and all I see are the same thing, over and over. And all with a LOT of bugs. Look at the new Validus, 2/2 is apparently a nightmare. 1/25 had issues. I'm on 1/23 and it's OK, but battery life is worse than anything I've run on the Nexus 6 Not horrible, but nothing like I was getting on earlier versions. The First Validus ROM we all flashed over at Team US Cellular, long before it was ever ON XDA, was awesome. Now I can't add the date to the Status Bar?? Huh?
Also, Wug updated his tool kit to 2.0.3 and people are having issues with that, too, getting root. Why?? It was working fine at 1.9.9 and at 2.02
WTH?? It used to be updates meant fixes and improvements after thorough testing. Now it's updates just for the sake up updating??? The Dev community has really steadily gone downhill in many ways since the earliest days of Android. A lot of GREAT ones out here still, but something has definitely changed over the years. Or am I just missing something?
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