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[qes]poor g1 internet speed ??

hi there,
i just bought g1 with tmobile in chicago,il so far i am getting just a little over 50KBites/sec download on 3g network. i am coming from htc fuze with att. anyone else see any problem in here??

Do you have full signal? If you brought the phone from T-Mobile you could always ask them what the problem is.

just find out something interesting ...
if you turn on airplane mode and then shut it off you data speed boooom to 235-175 KB/sec which is like a 3Mb/sec dsl speed at home !!! but after a little while it goes back to normal 50. looks like tmobile is throting the bandwidht

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Hey People, this is a non resolved issue, the last note posted in not accurate. I have been noticing my internet speeds are about half of what they used to be. have been doing many FCC app speed tests and they are half of what I was getting about 2 months ago. Back then I was constantly clocking in 1.0 to 1.5 Mbps and now all over the board, but best one was at 843, and am regularly in the 400 to 200 range.
This has also been confirmed via the Speed Test app also, getting basically the same number.
Just for confirmation sake, when tethering, i would go to 2Wire.com and run speed check on my laptop, would get the same numbers as the two apps are getting, 1 to 1.5 mbps a couple of months ago, and now in the 400 to 200 range.
Currently have G1 and have been bouncing ROMs, but right now running cyan 5.0.7 test 3, radio is 2.22.23.2, recovery is RA's 1.6.2 and danger spl. Currently living in Denver, CO.
First, let be smart here and not bash the sites or apps used, but the consistancy of their usage and their results. It does reflect that my speeds are half of what they used to be.
Also another note, the download and upload speed are very close to being the same, within a range of 100 kbps. Now we all know that even on cell phones, that should not be the case.
And I start the posting after having tried the airplaine thing, tried to even reboot, went into adv. task manager, shut off all apps, and services and combinations of such with no significant gain in speeds.
Anyone still experienceing the slowed internet speed.

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I have been experiencing about the same thing pretty much following the same time frame. Currently living in the DC metro area so I should be experiencing HSPA speeds.

Its a problem with Cyanogen v5.0.7.
That's the reason I'm still using donut.

Anyone who has rooted and has slow 3G, try this please

I posted this in the PRI bounty thread but don't want it to get lost and I'm curious what other people's results will be with it.
I noticed something interesting today that may be an Evo bug... So I turned 4G on when I was in traffic on 6th Avenue to run some speed tests... got 8megs, no surprise there... but I left it on... later I was in Denver waiting for my group therapy class and was downloading and browsing and noticed it was flying. Did a speed test and I was getting 1.7-2.1Mbps consistently.
I shut off 4G and went to test later and was back to 500-900 speeds. Turned 4G back on and was immediately back to the 1.7-2.1Mbps levels.
I noticed when I turned on 4G that the 3G data arrows started moving like crazy each time, then stopped.
Can someone test this for me? To do this test you need to be on a tower that you KNOW can handle the faster speeds. I tried it all over the place today and even at home where I can't usually pass 300, I got 600. Turned off 4G and back down to 300. Turned it back on, back up to 5-600. Hit 900 at one point.
Just did a test in my room with 2 bars and got 750... turned off 4G and shut the phone on, turned it back on and got 500 consistently. Turned 4G back on and got 876, 1114, 1140, 865, and 974.
Maybe the PRI update fixed the link between 4G being turned off and slow 3G speeds? Try it and post your results...
Oh and use the Xtremelabs speedtest - speedtest.net is crap.
EDIT: By the way, previous to this, the fastest I ever saw my phone go was 1Mbps - in the same areas I was testing today.

What the F, Batman!?! Definitely makes a big difference. From 75 kB/s to 139 kB/s in one test. Bars of service shot up from 0-1 to a solid 2, also.
Sent from my EVO, the true iPhone killer!

Sorry...cannot confirm. I had no discernible difference with 4G on or off. I have 5 or 6 bars with 500-1000 kbps download and 150-200 kbps upload. Get the same readings on Xtremelabs with 4G on and off. Sorry.
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Seems to work on my end. That's an interesting find. Seems if you turn 4g on and its nor available where you are they boost the 3g speed. Very interesting.
Sent from my cursed EVO using 4g speed

I could be wrong but it seems like I get better data speeds with the 4G radio turned on in a non 4G area.
I'm not rooted. Running the latest software release.
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Went back to the house where I have one or two bars of signal and I still do not see any difference except that my overall speed is about half what it was. But no difference between 4G on or off. I'm running Fresh 3.1.0.1 with stock kernel in a non-4G area.
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I ran three speed tests with it off and three with it on and then averaged the max. While it was running, the sustained throughput was almost exactly the same. The averages were:
with 4g off: 1142 down 199 up
with 4g on: 1156 down 217 up
Not much difference.

I think that many people don't get that the 3g speeds are subject to change at any given time, that is why there can be drastic changes in speed. Too many people on this board are succumbing to the placebo effect. Just my observation.
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RTC88 said:
I think that many people don't get that the 3g speeds are subject to change at any given time, that is why there can be drastic changes in speed. Too many people on this board are succumbing to the placebo effect. Just my observation.
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agreed.
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Im just waiting for the fix to the PRI issue hoping that when it comes out people find their 3G speeds remains the same. Now how eventful would that be. Cause maybe its is just a matter of towers cause I'm on 1.34 pri and 3G test still hits 1016 down and 200 up.

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Im just waiting for the fix to the PRI issue hoping that when it comes out people find their 3G speeds remains the same. Now how eventful would that be. Cause maybe its is just a matter of towers cause I'm on 1.34 pri and 3G test still hits 1016 down and 200 up.
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Then they will just say that the pri fix is broken!

Sorry it didn't have positive effects for everyone.
In the Denver area, at the very least, I've confirmed it on my Evo and a coworkers Evo. We regularly are getting two megs now... if we shut off the 4G, it takes about 10 or 15 minutes but we will drop back to 900 and stay there. Turn it back on, back to 2megs.

Just for grins I tried turning on the 4G to test my results.
I'm not rooted and running 2.2
3G alone = 1296kbit/s
4G on (no 4G service) = 1102kbit/s
So, it didn't do anything for me.

As I said, this is for SLOW 3G speeds, meaning >600kbps - with those speeds, you're probably not being affected by any sort of a bug. I had never seen 1Mbps much less 2 on this phone until that fix.

I still doubt the PRI has much of an effect, but perhaps there is hope that you can go back to 1.40 soon and find out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7602569&postcount=70

Driod 2 evdo signal question.

I have downloaded both Real Signal and Signal Status from the market. I keep having issues with my data not working(it's been ongoing since I got the phone.), so I wanted to know what my actual dBms were. But for some reason, on both apps, the highest evdo reading I get is about -3 and the lowest is about -30. But I don't know what that means in terms of real signal as everything I can find on google and that I understand, it should be between -60ish and -115ish but I have never seen those numbers on the evdo side. Am I wrong? I understand that it is the same dBm as 1rxtt, and I know they are different tech, but I would think it would be similar any way. However, I don't know antenna tech at all. So that's why I posted the question here. I have done a google search with no real relevant results, but I didn't search XDA specifically, as I thought if there were any relevant results they would have popped up in my google search. And all the relevant postings that I came up with said the same as my assumption. That signal should be between -60ish and -120ish.
Thanks again for all the help, you guys are awesome.

1 bar ~ -102 to -120 dBM
2 Bars ~ -93 to -101 dBM
3 Bars ~ -87 to -92 dBM
4 Bars ~ -78 to -86 dBM
5 Bars ~ -40 to -77 dBM
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I was able to hunt down that chart (Granted it was for a BB, however I would imagine the info would still roughly apply to any device), but I was not able to locate any real description of bars vs dBM. However, from what I've read before, just because you have a lower dBM (IE: -40) doesn't really mean you're going to have full bars/better service. I could be wrong, but from most of what I've read over time showed it was only a very vague correlation.

Do you get intermittent loss of data where only the right arrow under the 3G icon is active? That happens to me frequently as well and I have to go in and out of airplane mode to reconnect. Some of us think Blur causes it.
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Granted, I only kept the stock rom for about 3 days before I installed a custom, blur-less rom. However, I seem to recall having some data issues while using the stock rom. I donno if it was part of blur or something else causing it. However ever since I've flashed to a new rom I havent had a single issue.

I've been having issues with data like this, too. I have put an Airplane toggle widget on my home screen just for this. I am near Fort Collins, CO, but I guess it looks like people may have narrowed it down to ROM issues and not location or Verizon.
Maybe they'll fix it when they roll us out to Gingerbread.

silverfang77 said:
Do you get intermittent loss of data where only the right arrow under the 3G icon is active? That happens to me frequently as well and I have to go in and out of airplane mode to reconnect. Some of us think Blur causes it.
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Yes. It happens quite frequently, and an airplane toggle usually fixes it.

-Gilgamesh- said:
Granted, I only kept the stock rom for about 3 days before I installed a custom, blur-less rom. However, I seem to recall having some data issues while using the stock rom. I donno if it was part of blur or something else causing it. However ever since I've flashed to a new rom I havent had a single issue.
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I have wondered myself if it wasn't blur issues. It freezes all the time, and fiancees Ally doesn't have the freezing problem and general laggyness. And I know hers only has a slow 600 Mhz processor and is just a budget smartphone.

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I was able to hunt down that chart (Granted it was for a BB, however I would imagine the info would still roughly apply to any device), but I was not able to locate any real description of bars vs dBM. However, from what I've read before, just because you have a lower dBM (IE: -40) doesn't really mean you're going to have full bars/better service. I could be wrong, but from most of what I've read over time showed it was only a very vague correlation.
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Then should it be possible for me to hit single digits? I don't recall ever having a lower signal than -30 and it stays typically in the -8 to -20 range. When I was at about -100 cell service, I was at about -8 to-10 evdo. So something still must not be right with my phone. right now I am at -76 cell and -2 to -4 Ev.

I am seeing the same thing on my phone. I have ~87dBM cell service, and ~7dBM for evdo. I have always understood Verizon's voice and data network to be separate, I suppose this just goes to confirm that.

Here's a way to confirm if it's a problem with Blur, as opposed to VZW's network. Is there anyone who had this problem on the D2 with the stock ROM and then had the problem completely disappear (or at least reduce in frequency) after switching to Liberty ROM, or one of the others?

All my issues dried up when I flashed a custom rom.

I work in the industry. A -80 is generally the number you want to shoot for as far as having a good usable signal. Anything higher would be even better. Although once you get past -50 or so the signal is kind of hot and may cause issues. Anything lower is a bad signal (-90/-100) and would also cause issues.
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I had 3g issues with the droid 1 and cyanogen but Never with blur or liberty/droid 2 from the same house. I have noticed some "cell standby" signal loss on liberty but never really bad like some cyanogen builds..don't overclock and see if that helps.
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Radio post last OTA 2.3.3 power consumption

Do you think the radio part in last OTA 2.3.3 consumes more battery?
I see the battery information consumption much higher in "Phone".
Confirms it for me?
PS. this morning, after 5 hours and 35 minutes battery down to 90%

jackalac said:
Do you think the radio part in last OTA 2.3.3 consumes more battery?
I see the battery information consumption much higher in "Phone".
Confirms it for me?
PS. this morning, after 5 hours and 35 minutes battery down to 90%
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Well, I'm using ARHD 5.1.3 (based on the official HTC's GB ROM) with radio 12.54.60.25_26.09.04.11_M2 and can say that battery consumtion is siginificantly better than with the Froyo. It's normal when you have less consumption from the phone as a whole to have a higher percentage on the parts that require the same amount of energy. In fact you can optimize the radio software only to a certain amount - it still has to emmit energy as specified by the standards (GSM, UMTS, WiFi) and it still has the same losses in the receivers' amplifiers.

Ok, you are right, but if i compare the battery drain in this rom, i can say that is faster then stock froyo 2.2.1 imho...

I'm so happy someone else noticed it too! I'm having bad battery issues with this update. Took it from charger this morning and currently having 42%. I've done nothing fancy, installed few programs and browsed web. The percentage is going down like crazy

Not a lot of good to you, but I recently switched to LeeDroid's custom Kernel, the difference is night and day. Worth a look.

i see a problem too with my battery after update. i dont know what is the cause. if u find it pls tell here.thk

my radio part also consume much battery, i am ready to flash other radio and see the results.

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Not a lot of good to you, but I recently switched to LeeDroid's custom Kernel, the difference is night and day. Worth a look.
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completely agree with this. just amazing!

I noticed something strange with the signal levels when using GSM/WCDMA Auto-mode. While on 3G it only had like 1 bar and went straight to GPRS, then suddenly lost GPRS-signal to 0 bars and phone changed it to full 3G mode. It bounced like crazy. I forced it to GSM-mode and surprise, my battery life tripled.
I made a hard reset last night and let my battery die two times, lets see how it goes.

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I forced it to GSM-mode and surprise, my battery life tripled.
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Yes you will get much better battery life as the constant trying to locate best signal in WCDMA preferred mode is a big battery drain. Downside is you reduce data speeds.
I wasn't sure if your surprise was genuine or in mock obviousness so have tried to word this carefully.
Sent from my Ericsson T39m

T-Loop said:
I noticed something strange with the signal levels when using GSM/WCDMA Auto-mode. While on 3G it only had like 1 bar and went straight to GPRS, then suddenly lost GPRS-signal to 0 bars and phone changed it to full 3G mode. It bounced like crazy. I forced it to GSM-mode and surprise, my battery life tripled.
I made a hard reset last night and let my battery die two times, lets see how it goes.
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the reason while in gsm mode you had a longer lasting battery is because 2G (GSM/GPRS/EDGE) Takes a lot less power than umts/hspa/hspa+ to function; this is regardless of what device from whichever vendor/manufacturer you're using.
if you're still having issues, use the fast wipe rom to completely wipe your phone, then run the RUU (root it with gingerbreak)

Mr_JMM said:
Yes you will get much better battery life as the constant trying to locate best signal in WCDMA preferred mode is a big battery drain. Downside is you reduce data speeds.
I wasn't sure if your surprise was genuine or in mock obviousness so have tried to word this carefully.
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It was genuine cos I didn't have same amount of battery drain with Froyo. I always use it in Auto-mode, and with Gingerbread it's awful. I should have mention this in my post, sorry. But the point is, the signal levels went crazy and battery went down. Froyo was almost perfect what comes to this. My battery last 9 hours yesterday, where Froyo 1½ days.
Maybe I should navigate myself to the dev-section and see other solutions.

For some alien reason after upgrading to 2.3.3 , my battery is doubled, if not tripled. Maybe im just lucky that the new radio comes with the update is more suitable with my carrier in my country. I'm now on 3G, autosync , 23 hours after charge and still at 53% , medium use with calling, sms , taking photos and capturing some videos. Before the update my battery dies after like 5-6 hours with 3G and auto sync on. I'm a happy man right now

Ehi guys do you made a factory reset after ota?
I cant see better battery life after two days....
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Update to my issue. Seems that hard reset did the magic. I now have 81% of battery, took this off the charger 9 oclock this morning. It's still on Auto-mode like it should be. Maybe it was a cell tower fault or a battery calibration problem.
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i forced my phone to stay only in wcdma mode and disabled always on mobile data. i wonder if it helps.will see. i wonder what will change if i do a hard reset.i dont think this is an option.

sedatif781 said:
i forced my phone to stay only in wcdma mode and disabled always on mobile data. i wonder if it helpes.will see. i woder what will change if i do a hard reset.i dont think this is an option.
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also having problems after the update: the situation is this - if I keep wifi on and do not touch the phone, after ~8 hours (during night) I have only 66% battery left and battery use stats says that "Dialer" ate most of the battery. Did not notice this before in batt stats

I did a factory reset on my dhd after ota and also format the sd card, because i had always "Telephone" (dialer) voice on battery stats with high % of usage.
Btw, when my dhd was inactive on desk for 5 6 hours, with froyo 2.2.1 (1.72) the voices in battery stats were phone inactive, standy by ecc ecc, now before the format, the first voice was always "Telephone".
Now i wait for next recharge.

some one tell me!
i had on 2.2 froyo a AURO navigation software, now it does not work!! im so angry now!!!
recommend me other apps tha i can use? maps,navigator?

Pruikki said:
some one tell me!
i had on 2.2 froyo a AURO navigation software, now it does not work!! im so angry now!!!
recommend me other apps tha i can use? maps,navigator?
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Hi,
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863327&page=53
in my post #523 for a apk file to download. Notice: do not manually update the app in the Android market after you installed the attached file, then you will end up with the same problem.
Just follow the instructions in my post. If you have questions contact me.

My Impressions of EG22

First I'll start off by saying tonight was a really terrible night for me so if this comes off as venting so be it lol.
Samsung, you're getting there that's for sure. Scrolling, screen off/on is buttery smooth and things seem to be working better than I had expected.
With that being said, there is still work that needs to be done. It may just be my location, but with the EG22 modem I feel like I've been roaming more than usual. I flashed back to the EC05 modem just to see and it confirmed my suspicion: either my phone or my area just doesn't like the new modem very much.
Another key component is battery life, it's been pretty sub-par for me. At work I have terrible reception (no bars, even roaming) so I put the phone on airplane mode and the battery is still dropping pretty consistently, much faster than on any of the other leaks or Froyo. Must be a rogue process(es) eating it up, but I can't be sure unless I do some digging which I don't really feel like doing.
All in all it's definitely coming along nicely, but by no means is it phenomenal. But for the first time since DI18, I can honestly say that I feel Sammy is doing some stuff right. Keep it up, don't let us users down
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My impressions of the modem/rom is they are faking things a little bit on the signal meter as I know the signal isn't that strong in those areas. And it's not like a software update just gives better signal.

I agree that it seems like I'm roaming more on EG22, but the modem doesn't seem to have any effect. For example, I ran the stock EG22 build for a while and noticed the roaming issue and weaker WiFi reception. Reverting to the the EC05 modem didn't seem to help these issues. One of the stores I work in has a WiFi router that I can access throughout the store on Froyo (EC05), but on GB (EF02/EG22), WiFi disconnects when I walk to the rear of the store. Doesn't seem to matter which modem I'm using at the time. I even flashed back to Froyo yesterday but left the EG22 modem installed. GPS, 3G, and WiFi were flawless all day everywhere I went. So it seems that there must me some code/instructions in the build itself that are more relevant than the modem firmware.
Another interesting tidbit is that there basically is no difference in EC05 and EG22 modems. Randy did a binary differencing to generate a patch between EC05 and EG22 and the patch file is 142 bytes, which is probably about enough to change the version name.

I have noticed since the first GB leak that the WiFi reception is horrible now compared to a stock Epic with FroYo.

digiblur said:
I have noticed since the first GB leak that the WiFi reception is horrible now compared to a stock Epic with FroYo.
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Yes, it makes me wonder if they might have the power to the radios dialed back a bit intentionally to help them diagnose something possibly?

I have noticed the wifi bars being low, but it isn't effecting the speed at all. I consistently get 1.5mbps down/600kbps up when over 3g, and have seen 9mbps on 4g. Call quality seems good as well. As for battery drain? It might be a bit faster than I'm used too, but then again, I'm coming from SRF 1.2. If there are any issues with the TWLauncher, I don't notice them because I'm a LauncherPro user. Issues with the browser? I use Dolphin, so if there are any, again, I don't know. Overall though, this ROM is stable enough for daily use.
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thomasskull666 said:
First I'll start off by saying tonight was a really terrible night for me so if this comes off as venting so be it lol.
Samsung, you're getting there that's for sure. Scrolling, screen off/on is buttery smooth and things seem to be working better than I had expected.
With that being said, there is still work that needs to be done. It may just be my location, but with the EG22 modem I feel like I've been roaming more than usual. I flashed back to the EC05 modem just to see and it confirmed my suspicion: either my phone or my area just doesn't like the new modem very much.
Another key component is battery life, it's been pretty sub-par for me. At work I have terrible reception (no bars, even roaming) so I put the phone on airplane mode and the battery is still dropping pretty consistently, much faster than on any of the other leaks or Froyo. Must be a rogue process(es) eating it up, but I can't be sure unless I do some digging which I don't really feel like doing.
All in all it's definitely coming along nicely, but by no means is it phenomenal. But for the first time since DI18, I can honestly say that I feel Sammy is doing some stuff right. Keep it up, don't let us users down
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Thomas you're awsome. Downlod WoW and come play with me.
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