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Hardware keyboard problem

Hi everyone, i have WM6.1 Pro CE OS 5.2.19199 (Build 19199.1.0.0) on my BA, and everything works fine, except my hardware keyboard. When i push any button, the key is pushed until i push any other button... it means that i push a, it writes me aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa... and it's unusable.. thanks for replies.

I've the same problem

and do you have instead if z y, and instead of "?" "up arrow"? i know there is german keyboard fix, but it doesn't work for me:-/

dave.5 said:
and do you have instead if z y, and instead of "?" "up arrow"? i know there is german keyboard fix, but it doesn't work for me:-/
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I've a french keyboard, but I use ameriacan layout.

Hello !
Try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=231660
Greeatings Ernst

yes, i think it's going to be better, but xda-dev's ftp doesn't work for some time, so i have no idea where to get this qwerty patch.. but i am really angry from pushing keys, it's very unusable and have no idea how to solve this problem.. every reply is welcomed

sssssaaaaaaammmmmmmeeeeeee pprrrooobblleemmmmmm

It happens to me too... nothing a soft reset doesn't fix. It only happens after the PDA hasn't been reset in a while. Must be a buggy driver.
I'm running Build 19949.1.2.0.Black. I can't remember exactly who cooked it, but a search for "wm6.1 black" should turn it up.
EDIT
My rom:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=390862&highlight=19949
Looks like I'm overdue for an upgrade...

this is a common bug in wm6.1 roms its just another bug the BA has when its using a rom witch he was not intended for xD
My rom:WM6.1_20758_WWE_by sun_dream.

the same here! I am on an English OS with a German hardware keyboard (QWERTZ).
The thing is, that all cabs that circulating around don't work anymore. Since build 19xxx all those reg changes don't have an impact anymore! No way to change the hardware keyboard anymore!
any update on that??
regards
irm

i tried change delay before first repeat, it seems to be better, but it happens sometimes too... i like wm6 very much, but this is really bad bug, i need to be repaired...:-/

i solved the problem
try to change the speed of buttons
settings-buttons-up and down control
change the (delay before first repeat) to a little bit long (a quarter or a half of the slider)
and also
change the (repat rate) reduce the slider to a little bit slower (it probably a half)
cheers
evo

thanks for reply but i tried it, it's one post above yours... doesn't help at all

how about reducing the repat rate to the slowest...
have u try that?

Hardware keyboard and buttons
We let go of things to acquire new and better ones =) I lost the functionality of my four front buttons and the hardware keyboard doesn't work well when I decided to upgrade my device. I can't hard reset (i'm using MTTY) and i no longer use the keyboard......... well, i have learned to live with it. In return, I have reincarnated my BA to a WM6.1 Touch phone. No more stylus; no more hardware keyboard; no more hard reset on a dead battery. I love my phone now more than what it used to be...or what it was, when i first got my hands on it =)

happenssssssss to me too.
in fact, it has done so on every single 6.1ROM ive tried...and ive tried quite a few before finally settling down with Swampy's.
My guess: threaded sms is partly to blame- correct me if im wrong.
to me, the problem happens only while replying within a big sms thread. Im guessing, displaying/having so much text on screen/in ram is some how interfering with keyboard inputs. Already, it is slow, and it sometimes gets so slow it's stuck, holding onto a key press input and hence the repeats until a new key is pressed to cancel out the effect.
likewise, if you try composing a new sms, the problem, and the slow downs are far less often.

Maybe this will help
I was having the same prob...at first i thought that something was wrong with the hardware but then it struck me that maybe its the ROM...
What you can do is that:
Go to the settings and open the Button settings..there you can see the key repeat rate settings and the delay before first repeat settings..reduce both the sliders to slow and short respectively, so now when u press a key it wont go on like crazy...
Hope this helps...It like annoying when u are scrolling using the dpad cuz dont want to keep pressing...but i think the keyboard is more important and we can bear that...
But please someone do find out some working fix for this...

Never happened to me. I'm using WM 6.1.4 ROM 20755.V2.22 (CE OS 5.2.20755) from Sun Dream. But I always install BAHRUS (HTC BlueAngel Russian Hardware Keyboard) from http://ae.inc.ru/index.php.

Touch Input Wont Work on 1.6?

So updated to 1.6
Idk why i just did
i figured i dont have any roms on my mytouch or its not even rooted so everything should work fine
After the update finished installing, i got an error in the home screen about touch input, it kept popping up every minute or so, the same message, and when i would try to text the keyboard wouldn't pop up, i would get that same error, so i had to disable touch input from the settings, now it works and i dont got errors
btw this is the error i got
Sorry!
The application Touch Input (Process com.htc.android.htcime) has stopped unexpectedly. Please Try again
but is there anyway around this
i really liked the touch input keyboard because of the fact you could add your own words to the prediction list and you cant do that with Touch Pal
thanks

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I'm thinkin try a wipe or maybe reinstall if the data wipe don't work. Are you sure its for the MT3G and not the G1? I'm not sure yet if there is a difference. I'm just throwin some ideas out there.

phatmanxxl said:
I'm thinkin try a wipe or maybe reinstall if the data wipe don't work. Are you sure its for the MT3G and not the G1? I'm not sure yet if there is a difference. I'm just throwin some ideas out there.
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already tried that :/
yes im sure its for the Mt3G
i was using it before for almost a month..
i guess touchinput isnt compatible with 1.6

613BulletProof said:
is there anyway around this
i really liked the touch input keyboard because of the fact you could add your own words to the prediction list and you cant do that with Touch Pal
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I have read that other people with 1.6 have been having the same problem with the HTC keyboard. So I think you are out of luck there, until HTC updates their sense software to 1.6 and somebody pulls the keyboard off their updated phone and puts it online.
The stock keyboard lets you add words to the prediction list. Also this softkeyboard will let you do so as well, and it should work on 1.6.
http://code.google.com/p/softkeyboard/

brucemcl said:
I have read that other people with 1.6 have been having the same problem with the HTC keyboard. So I think you are out of luck there, until HTC updates their sense software to 1.6 and somebody pulls the keyboard off their updated phone and puts it online.
The stock keyboard lets you add words to the prediction list. Also this softkeyboard will let you do so as well, and it should work on 1.6.
http://code.google.com/p/softkeyboard/
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so as of right now theirs no keyboard that has the PHone Keypad Interface?
besides touch pal of course but that one doesnt let you add words to the prediction list :/

613BulletProof said:
so as of right now theirs no keyboard that has the PHone Keypad Interface?
besides touch pal of course but that one doesnt let you add words to the prediction list :/
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No, there are two. The HTC Keyboard for Donut was made available today:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=567294
And the other keyboard I mentioned definitely has the phone keypad and lets you add words to the prediciton list. I think it works for 1.6, not sure really...
http://code.google.com/p/softkeyboard/

Question for the X2 owners.

Does you X2 do this?
I just got my X2 and I have 2 bugs that I can't figure out.
(1) If I turn on WIFI the phone stalls/hangs. If I remove battery and restart then it starts up fine and wifi is now running. Turn off WIFI and no problems. Turn it back on, same thing happens!
(2) I just cant seem to install TomTom, it installed and worked fine on my X1 and is compatible with Windows 6.5.

Just one of the many bugs plaguing the X2.
The wifi crashing has happened to me before, the only method that worked was re-installing the OS via SEUS. Phone seems to run much better after that.
And hope for the march update to come along soon.

Re-installing the OS eh? Hmmm... I just might have to do this.
I did a full factory reset, but I guess it is not as good then.
I finally got TomTom installed, this time I ran the CAB and started doing other stuff on the phone (as it takes so long to install) A few minutes later it said it was installed. WTF?
But of course, the software cant find the GPS, I think I saw a fix for that somewhere.

And I also have the question to X2 owners:
For sure X1 and previous SE devices like P990, P1
have a strange cap/limitation regarding
PICTURE size.
So when picture has a lot of detail and a lot of light in it
and the fiinal size is around 1,5 MB
the phone freezes after taking such a photo
without saving it.
I've had specific landscapes which were always causing that!
Is that the same on X2?
On X1 it's a very rare thing, but definitely present.

mtechfan said:
Does you X2 do this?
I just got my X2 and I have 2 bugs that I can't figure out.
(1) If I turn on WIFI the phone stalls/hangs. If I remove battery and restart then it starts up fine and wifi is now running. Turn off WIFI and no problems. Turn it back on, same thing happens!
(2) I just cant seem to install TomTom, it installed and worked fine on my X1 and is compatible with Windows 6.5.
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1) This problem was solved by re-flash with SEUS. Yes, I flashed the same version that I had already in X2. Both same versions but newer is much better. I thing that SE quiet updated a few files but keep the name.
2) X2 using different GPS port than X1. This why TT can´t find GPS. You need to instal Franson GPSGate, this port emulator can emulate right port, whitch TT can see. At least, TT is the only navi software that have this problem. iGo works fluently, the same as Garmin.
PS: Sorry for my poor english.

also remember to install the small patch that SEUS released a few weeks ago.. it fixes a few bugs.

Ok friends.
Got my X2 finally!!!!
So before any eventual upgrade, my questions.
Many things actually surprised me....
So:
Where is my language??
I have a polish device but no clue where are my polish letters?
Where is WM keyboard or handwriting?
Or it has ONLY SE keyboard installed??
Where is Illumination setting?
Where is the option to display battery and next appointment when pressing clock on top bar?
Where is the option to power the device up with any key?
Where is the option to turn on/off the proximity sensor??
How can I set sending program with X icon to backround?!
I just couldn't find it anywhere!!
Also it looks like less responsive than X1.
Aha and one more:
My firmware is R1AA097
R5A
GENERIC_PL
It's the latest right??
I will be very grateful for answers.
I'm kind of confused a bit.

"Where is the option to display battery and next appointment when pressing clock on top bar?"
This is an issue with Windows Mobile 6.5. AFAIK all Windows Mobile 6.5 ROMs have this issue.
And the X2 has no choice but to me less responsive. The touch screen sensitizer is under the plastic on the front of the device where as on the X1 it was laid directly on the screen.

emuneee said:
"Where is the option to display battery and next appointment when pressing clock on top bar?"
This is an issue with Windows Mobile 6.5. AFAIK all Windows Mobile 6.5 ROMs have this issue.
And the X2 has no choice but to me less responsive. The touch screen sensitizer is under the plastic on the front of the device where as on the X1 it was laid directly on the screen.
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I see.
Do you have a clue about the rest of my questions?
Lack of my native letters is a disaster.

doministry said:
I see.
Do you have a clue about the rest of my questions?
Lack of my native letters is a disaster.
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I do not unfortunately.

emuneee said:
I do not unfortunately.
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I just received almost all the answers at Esato.
But not about language/native letters support.
This is something to investigate further...

doministry said:
Ok friends.
Got my X2 finally!!!!
So before any eventual upgrade, my questions.
Many things actually surprised me....
So:
Where is my language??
I have a polish device but no clue where are my polish letters?
Where is WM keyboard or handwriting?
Or it has ONLY SE keyboard installed??
Where is Illumination setting?
Where is the option to display battery and next appointment when pressing clock on top bar?
Where is the option to power the device up with any key?
Where is the option to turn on/off the proximity sensor??
How can I set sending program with X icon to backround?!
I just couldn't find it anywhere!!
Also it looks like less responsive than X1.
Aha and one more:
My firmware is R1AA097
R5A
GENERIC_PL
It's the latest right??
I will be very grateful for answers.
I'm kind of confused a bit.
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I've had the x2 for 2 months now, got it from the U.S i put it away because it was annoying me (to many bugs) now i'm using an HTC HD2 LEO I'M not going to use it again unless se realeases new firmware for it, other than that i'ts a very good device. some answers to your questions
(A) changing the language on the keyboard start/settings/ personal/ keyboard/languages/ the list drops down there are 23 languages supported even greek !
(b) no prximity sensor
(C) no option to option to power the device up with any key
(D) Illumination setting start/settings/personal/sounds and notifications/ it's all there personalize anything you want
(E) no sending program with X icon to backround
I hope i helped you in some way, I think that there are limited settings in general in wm 6.5 because my HTC HD2 has also limited settings but i'm very satisfied with my hd2 because i's very stable no crashes or hang ups.

@mathiosn
Thanks!
Actually X2 has proximity sensor,
but it works only in TileWave.
Regarding languages:
Yes of course there's a huge list of languages.
But apparently choosing my Polish
looks like English!!
No Polish letters at all!!
And that's a problem.

doministry said:
@mathiosn
Thanks!
Actually X2 has proximity sensor,
but it works only in TileWave.
Regarding languages:
Yes of course there's a huge list of languages.
But apparently choosing my Polish
looks like English!!
No Polish letters at all!!
And that's a problem.
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Oh I see you did get a X2.... congrats.

orelsi said:
Oh I see you did get a X2.... congrats.
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Ha!
Are you sarcastic or serious?
Yes I did and probably wil use it for a looong time

doministry said:
Ha!
Are you sarcastic or serious?
Yes I did and probably wil use it for a looong time
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Totally serious. I still think it is not worth it, but if you like it, you deserve gratz for it.

doministry said:
@mathiosn
Thanks!
Actually X2 has proximity sensor,
but it works only in TileWave.
Regarding languages:
Yes of course there's a huge list of languages.
But apparently choosing my Polish
looks like English!!
No Polish letters at all!!
And that's a problem.
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thanks for the reply, i used the x2 for a week, i did not use tilewave very much to try the proximity sensor.
as for the languages in the keyboard layout if you press the little ''world'' icon it shows you the lanuage that you have chosen have you tried that?

doministry said:
@mathiosn
Actually X2 has proximity sensor,
but it works only in TileWave.
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Its not true. Proximity sensor is working very good! Primarily in Dialer (when I´m calling and move the phone close to my head, proximity sensor turn display off).
So its working...

mathiosn said:
thanks for the reply, i used the x2 for a week, i did not use tilewave very much to try the proximity sensor.
as for the languages in the keyboard layout if you press the little ''world'' icon it shows you the lanuage that you have chosen have you tried that?
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Of course I tried that.
But choosing polish gives only normal alphabet
no polish letters!

orelsi said:
Totally serious. I still think it is not worth it, but if you like it, you deserve gratz for it.
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I see
Well I don't like everything
but I think it's decent

[Q] HD2 with HD7 screen (literally) and "focus" camera button

Sorry, I couldn't have time to search all threads, but I think there's no one like this.
Any way, I have my HD2 about a year and it's LCD has a three bright spots on the screen. Everything is working OK, but's it's quite ugly. I know it's "only" change the LCD screen to a new one.
BUT the question is: is it possible to change it to an HD7 screen?! The devices hardware are almost the same and it could fix the multitouch problem! (It's a possibility)
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The other suggestion is to change the command address to the other hardware key. I know camera button in WP7 devices is a 2 stage button and the first stage is to focus the images and the second is to take the picture, that's for sure.
I was wondering if it's possible the address another hardware key in the stcok camera, like the volume down button, for exemple, to focus image and the green button to take the picture, as it's today.
I know we already have an alternative to the camera software, but I'm quite conservative and I prefer stock programes, what ever... If some dev could try something like this, it would be great and solve this focus camera problem.
Any idea?

This sounds cool. I, myself, prefer stock apps .But we have a problem, there is no spare key for us to map it as a first stage camera button . Unless you are looking right now at the back of your HD2 with cover removed, If you know what I mean .

kawazaki said:
This sounds cool. I, myself, prefer stock apps .But we have a problem, there is no spare key for us to map it as a first stage camera button . Unless you are looking right now at the back of your HD2 with cover removed, If you know what I mean .
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Ok, I guess I got what you mean. But, if you try to disable the volume down key function when the camera is initiated and remaped it to focus function? Isn't it possible to stock camera software? I guess you would write a "simple" routine to disable it's original function and remap to focus one... isn't it?

The camera one is a possibility I've thought of. We'll need some way of decompiling or editing the camera app though (native code) and re-signing it (I'm just assuming native code is somehow signed).
With regards to the HD7 screen - not a chance.

elyl said:
The camera one is a possibility I've thought of. We'll need some way of decompiling or editing the camera app though (native code) and re-signing it (I'm just assuming native code is somehow signed).
With regards to the HD7 screen - not a chance.
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That's what I thought... But thanks anyway I think HTC wouldn't give us a chance to upgrade our devices just by changing the screen

sorry to go off your topic slightly but couldn't you get your screened fixed under the warranty. I know my hd2 has a 2 year warranty, surely it would cover the screen as long as its down to normal use

-josh- said:
sorry to go off your topic slightly but couldn't you get your screened fixed under the warranty. I know my hd2 has a 2 year warranty, surely it would cover the screen as long as its down to normal use
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Thanks man, but, I forgot saying that here in Brazil we don't have HD2 selling on a store. I bought it from a guy that travelled far far way from here... =/
It doesn't have warranty... I can't send it to someone here because, one more time, we don't have HD2 here in Brazil, so that's no one expert enough with this device and no one that I really trust to make this........ any way, thanks for the advice plus one on ur thanks meter

[Q] Missing fifth row with numbers on keyboard

Hi,
I am a user of DesireZ for three months, after 2 years with G1, and so far I found it...even depressing (sic!), that the keyboard has no numbers row but only the combination of Fn + key.
How do you find it ? Any extra method of typing IP numbers for example ? or numbers with spaces e.g. +48 123 456 789 ? Please tell I me I get used to use it
Solution for me would be, and this is a question, there is a way to map two programmable keys to "space" and "comma". Possible ?
Cheers,
Whatlogin

I was a migrant from the g1 as well and found it hard to get used to at first. It isn't all that bad though considering you can press the fn key twice in succession and then the top row will work as a numbers row rather than letters. Apart from that, I don't have a solution sorry

I think I remember someone posting an apk in here that would show numbers row at the bottom of a screen as soon as you'd pulled out the keyboard in 'txt writing mode'. Mind you, it was way back in dec or jan... Try search?
I used to have it but it didn't work for me as I seem to remember it required root (I don't have that yet)
See if you find it, good luck
edit: I did find the file in my fone (!)
I take no credit for it nor responsibility whatsoever!!!
Sadly, I do not know who made that either (to credit them) but here it is...
good luck

Wow! TA for replies.
@HAK Devil: I know, but permanent Fn switch the "space" to XT9 and "." to ":"
@wolek76: this is exactly something that could sort out my needs. I should have been looking for G2 rather than DesireZ
Anyway - here is the thread regarding to whole idea and developer:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=813742
I haven't have a chance to have it working yet - but good to know I am not alone
Regards,
Whatlogin

You should keep your G1 as a backup phone incase the DZ goes wrong and you end up having to send it back for repairs. After 7 months the touchscreen on my old DZ kept sticking in one particular place and HTCs idea of "fixing it" was to kill 1/3 o fthe touchscreen, which was really annoying so after a month of heavy duty legal pressure (thanks to my partner), they coughed up a replacement.
Short version: I wouldn't ditch the rock solid G1 if I were you, it'll one day come in handy.

Hey I tried installing this and it wouldn't show up at all. Enabled it in keyboard settings, fixed permissions; nothing worked.
Has anybody gotten this to work? And have there been any updates on it?

One of the biggest probs I've had with this phone was the 5th number row. You do eventually get used to it, for the most part lol.
What keys did you have in mind for the swap?
Also, I think you may need root for this method to work. Are you rooted?
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA Premium App

Even my old Nokia E70 had better keyboard than Vision/Desire Z has. That is so sad :-(

imsayintho said:
Hey I tried installing this and it wouldn't show up at all. Enabled it in keyboard settings, fixed permissions; nothing worked.
Has anybody gotten this to work? And have there been any updates on it?
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It did not work with me as well, thought when it got updated to 2.3.3 it actually started working no problem. Still there is a problem with Fn and 'shift' keys. I have no root and I haven't change anything to my phone apart from allowing installations from other sources.
Regards

wilnotdie said:
One of the biggest probs I've had with this phone was the 5th number row. You do eventually get used to it, for the most part lol.
What keys did you have in mind for the swap?
Also, I think you may need root for this method to work. Are you rooted?
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA Premium App
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Hi,
I am not rooted and as I mentioned - this does not work yet well. Check out also the thread I listed above. It is still being under development.
The two keys I was thinking about was the programmable keys that can be used for apps and so on.
I know I will get used to it. The easiest is type everything and come back to paste special symbols I guess like "ftp19216811://..." ha ha Maybe HTC want to make people stop writing like U2, sk8 is gr8, 4me and use proper language
Cheers!