Hi everyone
Have recently moved to the x10i, previously owned the desire. Have been looking around the forums as well as google for some answers but could not find them. Would appreciate if you could help:
1. Reject call with sms - any app for this (or maybe I missed it in the settings)?
2. Turn to mute functionality - do I need an app for this in x10? if yes, recommend one pls
3. Contact groups - group sms, email needed for the google contact groups I have
Thats it for now. Thanks!
Guys, with so many android users, and so many of you xperia users, surely someone would know ?? Would greatly appreciate any help...would not have asked for it if I had found anything by searching..
for the second one why not just use the silent mode?
settings - sounds then turn on silent mode.
Or just use one of the many shortcut widgets in the market place to toggle it between silent, vibrate and full sound.
THere is a quick settings widget built into the phone that does this too.
umaronly said:
1. Reject call with sms - any app for this (or maybe I missed it in the settings)?
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Don't know. I have voicemail and that seems to be sufficient for me.
umaronly said:
2. Turn to mute functionality - do I need an app for this in x10? if yes, recommend one pls
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I'm not exactly sure what you mean? Like rotate the phone to mute the ringer??
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3. Contact groups - group sms, email needed for the google contact groups I have
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If you're not already using Handcent SMS then go install it immediately, it's by far one of the best apps on the market. It will allow you to send group sms.
gmail allows you to make contact groups which I would think allow you to send group emails. The stock Dialer app on the X10 doesn't have contact groups, but I believe there are better paid for apps on the market for that kind of functionality, do some more searching because I know it's been discussed someone on XDA I just can't remember where.
Question for you: How do you like the X10 compared to the Desire? I'm debating about making the switch :S
FYI try posting questions like these in the apps section, you'll probably get a better/quicker response.
Hey, thanks for the responses
To answer your queries rvictorg:
1. Voicemail is not an option for me here, so reject with sms is what I am looking for
2. yep, (indesisiv, thanks for the tip but I need to have the option of getting the phone to ring and just mute it without looking if I am talking in a meeting if a call comes in)
3. Handcent sms is great but I find a few issues with it - after getting a number of sms in the phone, it slows down..not to mention it takes up quite a bit of memory. I have used it for quite a while, am not sure whether I want to revert back to it
To answer your question about desire versus x10i, lemme tell you first that I have had the luxury and misfortune to have used almost all the class A handsets from all the major manufacturers and OS platforms. I will be posting a full review very soon on the forum, but lemme give you a heads up that might be shocking to quite a few - I prefer the x10 by a big margin...why? a few spoilers:
1. Battery life on both the phones is almost the same with the latest firmwares - so all the talk of desire being better are crap in real world use. In fact, on my use (moderate) I found the x10 to be way better
2. I am sick and tired of the measly evolutionary changes in HTC sense since the Hero. And anyway, you can always root and get whatever UI or home replacement you want. I am sticking with x10 timescape since I find it not too bad and gels in nicely with the phone experience and is NOT slow, just relatively slower compared to sense which you probably wont notice in every day use.
3. The screen on the x10 is wayyy better than desire, and auto brightness setting on the x10 are far more intelligent. not to mention bigger size.
4. The physical design of the x10 takes my breath away - nuff said.
5. Some people complain about the speaker volume being low on the x10 - relatively, yes it is; actually, there are worse phones on the market. and it works well enough for you to use it, unless you have lost some ('quite a bit') of your hearing. And, you can chose some tones (if you must) that are louder than the others...so its almost a non-issue.
Practically, there is little to no difference between the phones when it comes to real world use, no matter how heavy a user you may be. The UIs can be customized, and the lower memory (RAM) and no multitouch in hardware seem to be the only 2 gripes, which are not dealbreakers (think about it, how many times apart from zoom have u ACTUALLY used multitouch!? as for the RAM, there is a thread on this forum that proves android is just as fast whether the ram is 256 or 512 MB..). BUT, the choice comes down to - screen quality and size, phone design, battery life. The x10 takes the cake by a big big margin in my opinion here. And do not forget the touch screen calibration issues HTC phones have been facing since the switch to AMOLED - its a serious issue, one that has cost me a lot of hassle on both the Hero (even it was not amoled) and the nexus one.
Hope this helps. This is one effin' darn good device, dont let whiners tell you otherwise.
I think that pressing the volume buttons on the side mutes the ring.. (seems to remember accidentally doing that a couple of times taking it out of it's case..)!..
Haven't come across anything which sends a text on a rejected call....
Haven't had any problems at all with handscent.. I've got tonnes of texts and mine runs fine..(??)..
Have to agree that since the last couple of updates the phone runs really well and the battery life is good for 3 days on light usage.. bloody brilliant!
Man you just made my day better by that quick review.
sent from my x10i that is banging for a 2.1 upgrade. ...
cool, thanks for that quick review too, definitely helps me out! It's very interesting to hear your opinion especially coming from a great device like the Desire and your experience with others. Any thoughts on Samsung Galaxy?? lol
I only have a few gripes with the X10, and almost all of them are software related. I'm just keeping faith that the devs can crack the bootloader so we can start flashing custom roms and possibly get Froyo running on this beauty. I'm getting a little more antsy with all these new devices launching and now their respective Froyo updates this past week, makes me really question SE's commitment to their devices and customers.
Timescape looks cool and...well that's about it. It has loads of potential imho, but it's missing way too much functionality to make it even remotely practical. I honestly have not used it once in the past 2 months which is really sad because it was a major selling feature of this phone.
Mediascape is actually pretty awesome...other than the fact it doesn't have a widget...or an equalizer...or the ability to create playlists...but other than that I think it's fantastic and honestly the best media experience I've seen on Android to date.
I really hope Sony Ericsson does more than basically change the digits 1.6 to 2.1 I'd love to see 2.2! more SE widgets for EVERYTHING (I think I have a widget fetish) 720p video, photos with flash, an increase in call volume (I can hear it, but it really does need improvement) then I'd be totally satisfied.
I just hate knowing that this gorgeous piece of hardware isn't reaching it's full potential, I really want to love the X10 but I don't yet...that really, is where my resentment comes from.
And good luck with your 3 questions, for 1) I just noticed an app in the Market called SMART SMS by Smart Apps LLC, it's $0.99 and appears to be able to reject calls and send a customized sms to the caller, hope that helps
give chomp sms a try...see if it works for you..
ring to mute..as someone said above, the volume keys should work fine..
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cool, thanks for that quick review too, definitely helps me out! It's very interesting to hear your opinion especially coming from a great device like the Desire and your experience with others. Any thoughts on Samsung Galaxy?? lol
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Recently bought 2 Galaxy S and a Desire, maybe Im gonna try do a video test soon. From my point of view, first touch to the Galaxy S doesnt feel good. Why? Because the Galaxy S feels cheapy in the hands, its way too light and absolutely doesnt feel solid. Imo its even not as good as the Desire one... The back cover is really thin, when u push it in the middle, it bends. The overall design looks more like a toy and a cheaper version of iPhone 2G, especially when the screen is off. One thing really let me down is the phone bezel around the screen, its higher than the screen itself, a really strange thing for a full capacitive touchscreen, even when I put a screen protector on, the screen is still lower than the bezel.
About the Super AMOLED screen that everyone is curious about, when u turn the brightness all the way up on galaxy and x10, the x10 seems to be much brighter in web browser... a really weird thing, the colors on Galaxy S tends to be hotter, its more yellowish and reddish, but defenitely the screen on X10 is brighter and more eyecatching, eventhough the default homescreen of Galaxy S loos very attracted, from here I really love the X10 screen. Last thing, if u put too many widgets on the homescreen, the Galaxy S will suffer some lags in animation, a real down point. Testing page loading in some heavy pages such as Goal.com, PremierLeague.com or GameSpot.com in default web browser, the Desire usually comes first with around 2-3s ahead of Galaxy S and the X10 is the last with just 1s behind Galaxy S (X10 running OS1.6)
The only thing I can see Galaxy S is better is the GPU, its a lot better than Desire and a bit better than X10 in some 3 D heavy graphic games in term of FPS and also help webpage scrolling a bit smoother than Desire and X10 (note that the X10 is running OS 1.6). Thats all I can say for now
PS: As umaronly said about the light sensor for auto brightness, I agree with him the sensor on X10 works a lot better than the other 2, in some low light conditions, X10 turn the screen down very low and seems to be more sensitive in changing environment than the other 2, same condition but the other 2 seems to be brighter, which affects battery life a lot
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Shake 2 mute...
In case ur wondering that ull just shake ur phone and it'll mute..yeah, ur right..the lite version let's u mute wen u receive a call just b shaking the phone..
The donator's version let's u pick the call after muting...
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Thanks for the app suggestion people, will surely try them out soon.
Am pleased to see you liked the feedback from my mini-review, am hoping for a good response from the detailed one. As for comparison with Galaxy S (which I have also tried), it is definitely not as solid and fluid as the other 2 sets. Leads me to blame the Samsung UI touchwiz (if you turn it off i.e. use a replacement home UI it works much better).
BUT, looking at the overall experience of the phones and physical design, I am still inclined towards x10...it is way more attractive in its entire package compared to the other two, unless you are only or mostly into 3D gaming. Also, 2 words on AMOLED and Super AMOLED screens - stay...away!! If you read up on the technology behind amoled and TFT LCD you will notice the inherent advantages of using LCD tech..pundits will try and convince you about the marginally better (12% or so on average) power consumption on AMOLED, but in real world use, if software is well tuned and auto-brightness works well, you can NOT tell the difference, other than the gorgeous display itself on LCD. In fact, in my tests the xperia x10 outlasts the other handsets on battery life even with the bigger screen (and of course bigger battery, but that is something you ought to expect from all smartphones!!)
Also, lemme tell you a bit of good news (don't ask me the source please). x10 will have an update to 2.2 later in the year as well, and apparently the thing flies on the 2.2 ROM even on the very early build, where SE engineers are tweaking the social integration much tighter into the OS (think: fb pics sync with contacts ), plus the added benefit of installing apps on memory card allows RAM to be free for phone UI. It flies, and kicks the @$$ off of other smartphones...stay tuned!
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Also, lemme tell you a bit of good news (don't ask me the source please). x10 will have an update to 2.2 later in the year as well, and apparently the thing flies on the 2.2 ROM even on the very early build, where SE engineers are tweaking the social integration much tighter into the OS (think: fb pics sync with contacts ), plus the added benefit of installing apps on memory card allows RAM to be free for phone UI. It flies, and kicks the @$$ off of other smartphones...stay tuned!
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Just got a little aroused there
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Well, I don’t know where to start, ok here I go, WHAT A PILE OF CRAP, I went from the brilliant HTC Desire to this crap, I was quite excited about the Samsung galaxy s, but I was shocked at the level of LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAG, even to just make a standard call, I am waiting for a while for the Samsung to process the instruction, at times I have felt like throwing the fone out of the window, it is really bad, hopefully the update to froyo 2.2 will eliminate the LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAG problem, or what I would advise is if possible install the Nexus1 version of Android 2.1, and forget about Samsung own crap software. HTC Desire here I Come.
This is a honest review from a very frustrated Samsung galaxy s owner, if I have upset anyone with my review, please accept my apologies, as that is not my intention
Thank you
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Well, I don’t know where to start, ok here I go, WHAT A PILE OF CRAP, I went from the brilliant HTC Desire to this crap, I was quite excited about the Samsung galaxy s, but I was shocked at the level of LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAG, even to just make a standard call, I am waiting for a while for the Samsung to process the instruction, at times I have felt like throwing the fone out of the window, it is really bad, hopefully the update to froyo 2.2 will eliminate the LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAG problem, or what I would advise is if possible install the Nexus1 version of Android 2.1, and forget about Samsung own crap software. HTC Desire here I Come.
This is a honest review from a very frustrated Samsung galaxy s owner, if I have upset anyone with my review, please accept my apologies, as that is not my intention
Thank you
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:-| .. did you get the phone and go straight into posting this, or have you been following the forum?
I'll let you take a guess.
And i think we're getting trolled here, although some apps lag a bit when you open them, i NEVER had this problem with the dialer.
It always zooms right up.
Very troll like, theres 0 lag on my device, everything opens pretty much instantly.
Have you installed a task killer? I recommend doing so and getting into the habbit of running it every now and again if it slows.
to be honest, i've had the phone for about 2 weeks and i went from a old galaxy (i7500) which is the true king of lag. I notice slight lag on the galaxy S which increase over time, after being on for 3-4 days interface starts crawling almost to the same lever of i7500.
I dont know if the cause to the lag is an general android issue or if its samsungs incompetence...
2 things, go into settings and get rid of the animations and download launcher pro, this IS the best phone ive ever owned. incredibly light, comfortable to hold. just wish the camera was better/had flash and the screen had a higher resolution like the iphone. other than that i cant see how they would make a phone any better
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old galaxy (i7500) which is the true king of lag.
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Hehehe, cracked me up
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I dont know if the cause to the lag is an general android issue or if its samsungs incompetence...
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I think it's Samsung's incompetence, had similar issues on my Omnia II.
I wonder if Nexus one / HTC users had the same lag issues and whatnot
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2 things, go into settings and get rid of the animations and download launcher pro, this IS the best phone ive ever owned. incredibly light, comfortable to hold. just wish the camera was better/had flash and the screen had a higher resolution like the iphone. other than that i cant see how they would make a phone any better
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Isn't it admitting defeat to the iPhone when you've got to turn off animations just to get the device to function properly?
I hate my iPhone and want to get the Captivate but stuff like this worries me.
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Isn't it admitting defeat to the iPhone when you've got to turn off animations just to get the device to function properly?
I hate my iPhone and want to get the Captivate but stuff like this worries me.
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not gonna lie, theyre both awesome phones, i just wanted the bigger screen, but honestly the camera on the iphone blows every other phones' out of the water. they just have the best sensor, which i dont get cause i thought they bought most their parts from samsung(why samsung started making their own phones) Samsung the new leader in android phones. HTC just doesnt have the production power
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...but honestly the camera on the iphone blows every other phones' out of the water. they just have the best sensor, which i dont get cause i thought they bought most their parts from samsung...
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Do you have some evidence of this? The results I've gotten from the Samsung camera have been better than I expected.
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Do you have some evidence of this? The results I've gotten from the Samsung camera have been better than I expected.
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I know without a doubt the 5MP camera on the iPhone 4 looks better than the 8MP camera on the Evo.
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I know without a doubt the 5MP camera on the iPhone 4 looks better than the 8MP camera on the Evo.
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ok, but the 8MP camera on the Evo is not the 5MP camera on the SGS
the orinal poster may be an idiot but I understnad where he comes from........ I am frustrated with the Samsung speed and see enough posts about the lag problem to know that it isn't just me.
I am also a blackberry user (9700) and that is much faster going from screen to screen and for Email, RSS, Twitter and Facebook.
OK the experiance is a little dull and not fro graphical but is usable.
Using somthing like Newsrob for RSS is unbearable (even with downloaded articals, the HTML rendering is to slow) or when using the standard mail client and moving from one mail to another.
The exchange sync is also flaky with the calendar sync breaking, resulting in the config having to be removed and re-added. Push mail doesn't seem to be push mail and tacks an age to come through when compared to the Blackberry.
It might be one of the best Android phones out there but it still needs a lot of work to be my main phone and not just a toy that I fiddle with on the train to work.
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Hehehe, cracked me up
I think it's Samsung's incompetence, had similar issues on my Omnia II.
I wonder if Nexus one / HTC users had the same lag issues and whatnot
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I don't have much hope for samsung in Galaxy S either tbh, the hardware is good but i rely on the community on the software side of the phone.
And really, i dropped count of how many times i've was going to throw my i7500 into the wall, but stopped myself since i didnt want to pay for damages on the wall :-/
"LAAAAAAG" was never a big issue with this phone... compared to hd2 blackstone iphone and alot other smartphones i used to have over the years... after all u will have some if u decide to pick a smartphone .....
if u have lots of of it something is wrong ..
u can try using "advance task killer" and "minfreemanager" from market (free software)
this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=723002 also gives a good solution if u like to mess up with the phone a bit more
my galaxy right now outperforms like any other smartphone out there
The op's post kind of rings true about how I started to feel but that was until I flashed to jg 1 (which itself was an improvement) but then put the modaco rom on it and autokiller from the market and now it performs superb and am happy with it. By all accounts, korea are sure to get froyo in august too so I can't help but think the rest of the world won't be too far behind, and even then if froyo is on a korean phone then I dare say there will be a rom floating around that's based on froyo in the not too distant future; while I look forward to see froyo on this phone, the way it performs now for me is excellent.
I will say although I have practicly zero lag now,I did have to flash to jg1 and custom modoco rom to get there.Initially out of the box there was quite some lag(although not as much as the op is suggesting). I also use taskkiller which is the same as minfreemanager but applies at boot.With this combination the phone is lightning fast but i can understand people not wanting to flash,root etc.Out the box there are probably better phones but put the work in and galaxy s is second to none.
I've done what I can with out rooting the phone, use Launch Pro, Startup Audit and Advanced Task Killer with some effect but not good enough and is poor when compared to the Blackberry or even my HTC Snap or E71.
I know the UX is not as interesting at the Galaxy but above all else it has to be usable and fast.
I've even had poor responce when answering calls and even though I have been pressing the answer button, the phone has not responded and call ended up going to vm.
I suppose that at somepoint when I have time, I will root the phone and install a modded rom but using modded roms should be about additional functionality, not about getting the phone to be acceptable.
I've just been trying to type a URL on the Galaxy while writting this and there is significant lag while typing, I can be several charatures in from of what is being displayed.
Just flashing firmware to jg1 makes it a hell of a lot better.Although jg3 will be better as the bugs were ironed out i belive
This makes me no longer excited about the galaxy? Why does it "LAAAAG" so much? It should have a very fast processor and only a 4" screen compared to the EVO's 4.3" screen. Although I do have issues with speed on my EVO... I think it's to be expected. It has a slower processor and a larger screen (more pixels to push around). Also, HTC Sense slows everything down.
I've never held a Samsung phone in my life... and I will definitely need to play with it before I actually buy it.
Let's try this for a change, instead whining about features you wish we had, let's talk about things we like about our beloved x10's.
I love the design, the screen and the camera. I'm glad we don't have multitouch, yes its good for emulator and games, but I hate silly multitouch gestures. I enjoy being able to use my phone with one hand.
Please share you're positive experiences and features you like.
Oh and for the love of god, nobody use this thread to bash the x10 there is already too many treads about crap.
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Good idea, lets keep this thread positive.
My favourite things about the X10 are:
1. The screen. It's bright, I can use it even in direct sunlight, it has a decent resolution with a "proper" aspect ratio of 16:9 and even with the "low" colour depth it works perfectly fine for watching videos, looking at photos I've taken and surfing the web.
2. The design. I have the black model and as far as I'm concerned it's the best looking phone out there. It has a nice B&O feel to it, it's pretty discrete and the minimal level of decoration isn't flashy or anything.
3. It feels solid. Compared to other phones I've owned or used for extended periods time I'd rank this in the top 5 when it comes to how it feels. The iPhone 3GS comes in at first place of course and in second place I'd put the HTC Diamond, it's built like a tank. After that it's a very close race between the X10 and the Blackstone but the X10 barely wins by not having any loose parts and proper buttons.
The X10 camera is the best i have ever used and i have taken more photos with this phone than any other
Best phone i ever had.
Best design arround,and as i see it only a new SE phone will take the crown.
Build quality: i read some were that it has the worst build quality, but we have a X10 ran over by a bus and still working, and one gone swimming for half an hour and still working. This has to mean something.
Screen is great.Big and bright.
Battery is also great. 2 days.
About the update it comes when it comes.
So all i can say that i am happy with my X10.
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The X10 camera is the best i have ever used and i have taken more photos with this phone than any other
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Wish the frame rate was quicker but same here. I find myself actually taking pictures with it! Can't say I really used the camera as much on any other phone I owned before this.
I have even taken a few with the X10 that have become amongst my favorite photos.
I agree with all the previous comments but I have to add one that will probably make some people gasp! lol
I actually like and use MediaScape. I like the (for lack of a proper term) "infinity functions" that link to Youtube videos and the ability to update or add album art directly on the phone. The ability to use all my existing playlists via MediaGo is also a great feature as I have a ZuneHD and now I can use the same playlists on both devices.
I am also very impressed with the battery life (since going back to the AT&T R2CA016 ROM). The original ROM was a little sluggish at times but since I rooted and removed the AT&T bloatware, the performance has been outstanding. Everything works smoothly and quickly. I also re-enabled the non-market apps by following the Captivate guide and adjusting it for the location of the settings.db on the X10.
I really prefer the physical keys over the soft buttons on most of the newer devices as well.
This phone does everything I need and most of what I want so I am extremely happy that I returned a Captivate and replaced it with the X10.
Best looking touch screen phone ever. If I have to take the form of non living creature, I want to be white X10s charger ;-)
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I also like mediascape, and with the coming updates it will only get better. As lacking as uxp can be in some areas, timescape for example. Se have put forward some brilliant ideas, and pulled of a fantastic first effort for android.
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This is by far the best looking phone i have ever owned, im a very happy with my X10. the lack of 2.1 is no reason to sell it, a month isnt that long to wait really.
Cracking camera imo
Fastest phone ive owned, not saying much since my last phone was a nokia 5800 Xpress music
all in all, happy with it, also i get satisfaction knowing im on a 2 year contract and the phone seems rather indestructible, run over by a bus and left in water for half an hour.
If a bluetooth fix came out i wouldnt give a monkeys to eclair, frozen yoghurt or spotted **** lol
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Great phones! Makes calls, writes texts..
Nothing else to add!
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As stated before, the design of this phone looks simply amazing, and the fact that it doesn't look like an iPhone (I'm looking at you Galaxy S) is a plus.
The touch response is great, and the screen itself looks wonderful, I always have the brightness jacked up fully just for this very reason.
One of the main reasons I bought this phone was simply for the fact that its specs more than doubled some aspects of my last phone (HTC Touch Diamond), and it shows. This phone is fast! I've never owned anything like this, having something so small that can run something that looks as good as Need For Speed: Shift is a great improvement over what I'm used to.
The build quality seems pretty solid, but I never really have any accidents with tech anyways.
And the camera, the camera is great! As said by someone else, I find myself taking more pictures with this than any other phone I've owned before.
Oh yeah, and the 3.5mm headphone jack is also great for me, I use it most of the time to stream internet radio in my car.
Also, once you dig your fingers into the framework and get rid of some of that monotonous blue, you can really have a nice looking ui on your hands (not that it looks HORRIBLE when it's stock)
That's it for now, I'm enjoying it!
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As stated before, the design of this phone looks simply amazing, and the fact that it doesn't look like an iPhone (I'm looking at you Galaxy S) is a plus.
The touch response is great, and the screen itself looks wonderful, I always have the brightness jacked up fully just for this very reason.
One of the main reasons I bought this phone was simply for the fact that its specs more than doubled some aspects of my last phone (HTC Touch Diamond), and it shows. This phone is fast! I've never owned anything like this, having something so small that can run something that looks as good as Need For Speed: Shift is a great improvement over what I'm used to.
The build quality seems pretty solid, but I never really have any accidents with tech anyways.
And the camera, the camera is great! As said by someone else, I find myself taking more pictures with this than any other phone I've owned before.
Oh yeah, and the 3.5mm headphone jack is also great for me, I use it most of the time to stream internet radio in my car.
Also, once you dig your fingers into the framework and get rid of some of that monotonous blue, you can really have a nice looking ui on your hands (not that it looks HORRIBLE when it's stock)
That's it for now, I'm enjoying it!
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How do u guys get need for speed to work? Ive downloaded the droidx 99mb rip from the droidx xda forum, but even after a clean flash it still says free up space on your device? Any tips?
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I returned an HTC Aria in favor of the X10, and even though the delay of the 2.1 update is frustrating, I am very happy with my purchase. The X10 is much more solid-feeling phone, with better battery life. I also think Sony Ericsson has a much better solution for managing media than HTC. Superior sound quality and a better camera than either my Aria or my iPhone as well.
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How do u guys get need for speed to work? Ive downloaded the droidx 99mb rip from the droidx xda forum, but even after a clean flash it still says free up space on your device? Any tips?
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Well i have no experience with android and after many years of being a palm freak i switched to iphone 2 years ago. It has done the job well and it was only when an offer came up in our newspaper that i decided to order the X10 for my daughters birthday on contract. My work has just upped my handset to the iphone 4 and after playing with the x10 for 2 days now and hearing an update is coming too then i am seriously considering giving my daughter the iphone 4 and keeping the x10 . It is like having an updated palm back . The screen is Brill , market store is tops and the customisation it offers hours of fun .... widgets are cool ... camera is best ive used
Im One happy X10 user
berbecverde said:
Best phone i ever had.
Best design arround,and as i see it only a new SE phone will take the crown.
Build quality: i read some were that it has the worst build quality, but we have a X10 ran over by a bus and still working, and one gone swimming for half an hour and still working. This has to mean something.
Screen is great.Big and bright.
Battery is also great. 2 days.
About the update it comes when it comes.
So all i can say that i am happy with my X10.
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lol cant really say much everyones already stated everything i love.
how do you manage to keep ur battery running two days :O plenty of people have said that but no one tellin me how. i just about manage to run it for half a day lol but other than that and the in call volume and updates i love the phone, best phone ive ever owned
Well, for me, what I like about it is because it's an Android, which is a competitor of the uPhone, and has more growing potentials than a Windows or Symbian phone.
Wanted to try out Nexus One, but as a multimedia fanatic, I read reviews that the music players are not really that satisfactory. So Rachael was an ideal choice since Sony has the upper hand when it comes to walkman-related stuff.
As for HTC, it's only natural to wanna try one, since there are alot of satisfied users out there, but the phones' designs were not as nice as Rachael's. (They even added a 'chin' to the Desire, which wasn't present on Nexus One)
So, yeah... Basically I only go for the beauty and the multimedia functions. OS versions are not really a big deal for me. True, I went gaga over the sight of Live Wallpapers, but then I can live without it. =D
The thing I like about Mediascape it the way the images were animated when they appear and disappear.
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lol cant really say much everyones already stated everything i love.
how do you manage to keep ur battery running two days :O plenty of people have said that but no one tellin me how. i just about manage to run it for half a day lol but other than that and the in call volume and updates i love the phone, best phone ive ever owned
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Hmm I guess there's no really a 'true way' about this, but I guess sucky battery life happens to new phones...
We all have experienced gradual stability of power drainage as time goes by. It's either the phone has grown accustomed to the battery, or vice versa, or that we have slowly become aware of how to avoid it?
Mine used to have it's power drop to 50% or more within 5 hours, without using it, and now it just drops like what? 3-10% by end day?
Give your phone some time. It will get better =)
I like it because its SE Design, only compnay which knows hardware design. I like it since its white color phone and because its running Android.
hello ppl,
I currently have a X10 but I was wondering about to change my device soon for a Galaxy S or for Motorola Droid 2 GLOBAL.
I would like to hear some of you, especially now that the X10 will be getting Froyo and Multitouch Officialy by the next year, that was one of the major drawback of the phone.
Is this trade fair?
Lenghty... Go make some coffee.
Ok dig this, I had the Captivate for 3 weeks. The short answer is I returned it because it kept turning off. Google Galaxy S Random Shut Down.
Now briefly, all I know about the Droid phones is that same as the iPhone, If you throw a rock in any direction you'll probably hit an accessory for it.. Man they got the whole 9 yards... From Moto Docks to OtterBox (Defender) .
Captivate Pros
Man that screen... NO FOR REAL! That screen is just amazing, And it's a Corning registered Gorilla Glass device. Go google that if you want to.
The Captivate has the most powerful botton in the known universe " Hearing Adaptive" or something like that. It's a huge boost for in coming call volume. Half way between low speaker phone volume and high ear piece volume. And this way you're not picking up everything in the mic like you would if you used Speaker Phone for the volume hike.
The two main cons that make me not miss it.
Turning off ... C'mon really ???
And those damn stock android Menu,Home,Back and Search buttons. I kept hitting Search by accident to the point of moderate frustration. I'm 5' 9" and weigh 157 pounds... I do not have sausage fingers.
Ok let's talk Pinch Zoom. Really I don't miss it. The Magnification buttons we X10 users have seems like a Button to Zipper comparison. We both can do the same thing just in a different way.
X10 pros .... And this one is worth at least 3 Pro spots of value to me.
The 3 phisical button... dear God sweet Jesus, Thank you for those
The 3 things I wish I could change about the X10
In Call Volume . I have had my hearing tested and I picked up zero decibels on my right and slightly worse on my left. It ain't me man, It's the phone. SPEAK UP [email protected]#$%^& !
Accessories.
There ain't none... Like for real. To find an X10 specific anything you have to hire a Sherpa and climb a damn mountain and then when you get there you're only going to find the OtterBox Commuter and Impact, We didn't even get the Defender
The Camera. 8mp of steaming ... Vignette,Camera 360 or stock, I can't take a clear bright picture to save my own life. ( Please don't derail this thread into a Camera Tips and Tricks, Read those and done that)
So after all this, I have run thru The HTC Aria (Tiny Toy), The Samsung Captivate and then finally the X10.
I'm keeping the X10 because out of all the love hate things you may find from one phone to the other this device has the most " I can live with" and the least " I hate" things.
It's a phone, It's not going to bring you true happiness. It's just gonna make calls and keep you interested in between.
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Battery! The Samsung Captivate needs to be charged everyday... Really.. Everyday and sometime through out the day. It's that screen I think. Imagine those Donkeys at the Grand Canyon. Now imagine them carrying Fat Sweaty Betty from Wisconsin. The battery is doing the best it can given the load it has to carry.
My X10 however could go a day or two between charges. And I use it on full brightness all the time.
oh nice answer, I didn't know about the battery life of the Galaxy S, I know about the lag and GPS issues.
Also the Galaxy S doesn't have a camera flash.
On the other side
the Androids from motorola all of them have the best battery life amongst the android family device and also has Dual LED flash but the screen is TFT not AMOLED like Galaxy S
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For what I have been reading, the battery life on droid 2 GLOBAL is very bad, like 5 hours a day with normal use, that is very bad compared to the X10 with 2.1 that lasts more than a day.
I think the X10 with 2.1 upgrade has the better battery life compared to other android phones, even motorola's phones
AKA_Rizzo said:
Lenghty... Go make some coffee.
Ok dig this, I had the Captivate for 3 weeks. The short answer is I returned it because it kept turning off. Google Galaxy S Random Shut Down.
Now briefly, all I know about the Droid phones is that same as the iPhone, If you throw a rock in any direction you'll probably hit an accessory for it.. Man they got the whole 9 yards... From Moto Docks to OtterBox (Defender) .
Captivate Pros
Man that screen... NO FOR REAL! That screen is just amazing, And it's a Corning registered Gorilla Glass device. Go google that if you want to.
The Captivate has the most powerful botton in the known universe " Hearing Adaptive" or something like that. It's a huge boost for in coming call volume. Half way between low speaker phone volume and high ear piece volume. And this way you're not picking up everything in the mic like you would if you used Speaker Phone for the volume hike.
The two main cons that make me not miss it.
Turning off ... C'mon really ???
And those damn stock android Menu,Home,Back and Search buttons. I kept hitting Search by accident to the point of moderate frustration. I'm 5' 9" and weigh 157 pounds... I do not have sausage fingers.
Ok let's talk Pinch Zoom. Really I don't miss it. The Magnification buttons we X10 users have seems like a Button to Zipper comparison. We both can do the same thing just in a different way.
X10 pros .... And this one is worth at least 3 Pro spots of value to me.
The 3 phisical button... dear God sweet Jesus, Thank you for those
The 3 things I wish I could change about the X10
In Call Volume . I have had my hearing tested and I picked up zero decibels on my right and slightly worse on my left. It ain't me man, It's the phone. SPEAK UP [email protected]#$%^& !
Accessories.
There ain't none... Like for real. To find an X10 specific anything you have to hire a Sherpa and climb a damn mountain and then when you get there you're only going to find the OtterBox Commuter and Impact, We didn't even get the Defender
The Camera. 8mp of steaming ... Vignette,Camera 360 or stock, I can't take a clear bright picture to save my own life. ( Please don't derail this thread into a Camera Tips and Tricks, Read those and done that)
So after all this, I have run thru The HTC Aria (Tiny Toy), The Samsung Captivate and then finally the X10.
I'm keeping the X10 because out of all the love hate things you may find from one phone to the other this device has the most " I can live with" and the least " I hate" things.
It's a phone, It's not going to bring you true happiness. It's just gonna make calls and keep you interested in between.
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Battery! The Samsung Captivate needs to be charged everyday... Really.. Everyday and sometime through out the day. It's that screen I think. Imagine those Donkeys at the Grand Canyon. Now imagine them carrying Fat Sweaty Betty from Wisconsin. The battery is doing the best it can given the load it has to carry.
My X10 however could go a day or two between charges. And I use it on full brightness all the time.
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well considered, well thought out answer. nicely done!
Just my 2 cents. I have the Xperia X10a Rogers and the Captivate AT&T (thanks to amazon.com's 1 cent sale).
Having lived with the Captivate for a couple of weeks, I won't return back to using the Xperia. For a long time, I thought it was AT&T that was providing me with crappy voice calls. Obviously, quiet and lots of hiss noise. The Captivate? Crystar clear all the time. Sorry At&t, I thought it was your fault. Now, I know it is the Xperia.
So far, I have not experienced the issues faced by other Captivate owners. Maybe the latest software upgrade fixed them.
But I'll tell you the main reason why I'll continue using the Captivate: Easy rooting and custom recovery (so far, I don't think the Xperia cooks have been able to create a custom recovery for the X10). Also, Google voice direct phone calls work on the Captivate. For some reason, it stopped working on the Xperia after SE upgraded the software to 2.1.
yeah, the X10 has a bad phone speaker and the bootloader still hasn't been cracked , and I would love to install another kernel on the X10 because Im looking forward to reverse tethering my phone so I could use my laptop internet
routed to the android phone via USB because I don't have an unlimited data plan.
Hi. This will also be long. LOL.
I own both an X10 and a Galaxy S. To summarize, I had the least frustration with my X10 than with my Galaxy S. Yep, I have two. Both unlocked. That's how things work in the Philippines. You would want to have a separate phone for work and play (personal stuff--like family and friends as our carriers here charge weirdly for their services).
I got my x10 first and I was very happy--lags were negligible and 2.1 really made it zippier. Twas my first Android and was on 1.6 and got updated to 2.1 like 3 days after I got it. Then my contract retention with the other carrier came up two weeks after and I picked up a Galaxy S. Initially, my Galaxy S was on 2.1 and it was OK save for some negligible lags but after a 2.2 upgrade, it kept freezing and dying, and Swype won't even let me write anything sensible. I was so frustrated to the point that I wanted to flush it down the toilet, if it wasn't so pricey. Then I applied a lag fix and it went all zippy and I'm happy with it.
Now for some real comparison
Galaxy S over X10
- faster operation (after the lag fix)
- way way better S-AMOLED screen, perfect for long movies
- pre-loaded apps like English Dictionary, Vlingo, Office Editor, File and Task Manager
- Multitouch (though the x10 will get one by March 31 2011--latest)
- cool slide out usb hatch
- front facing camera
- access to froyo (2.2)
- FM radio (not true for the captivate)
- in my case longer operating time than the x10, my x10 drinks juice
- notification pull down has remote control to wifi and others
- more possible to get updated to 2.3
- very light and easy to pocket
- better voice calls with or without headset
X10 over Galaxy S
- more eloquent UI / software tweaks (better animations, more premium feel)
- a lot better and stand out body design (IMO)
- three hardware buttons
- better 8MP camera
- better continuous autofocus (after 2.1)
- I love timescape over buddies online (samsung's own social media widget)
- more convenient location of lanyard eye (lanyards are important to me because I used to drop phones often)
- feels heavier and feels greater on hand thanks to the curves
- best sound (music, I mean) reproduction (IMO)
Galaxy Cons
- Soft keys (back button, and home if you are on captivate/vibrant) can take you out of what you are doing
- Less reliable operation due to lags and soft key back button issues
- Looks cheap, uninspired design
- TouchWiz UI sucks big time
- clunky messaging and contacts interface--shows less information at once due to big font sizes, probably useful for older people
- can't use samsung widgets when using launcher pro
- buggy because it's Samsung!
- low user interface quality check--you might be surprised to find poorly constructed and grammatically incorrect sentences on the Galaxy S's UI, thank God by 2.2 most have vanished
- Samsung Kies (syncing software) sucks
X10 Cons
- plastic usb flap cover
- poor photolight does not help night shots, in fact blinds people you are taking pictures of
- kind of laggy due to timescape, but I can live with this
- mediascape is kind of old-world and hard to use, best use poweramp / winamp
- pre-loaded apps don't add much value
- stuck at 2.1 for the foreseeable future, probably forever
- does not have much faster ROMS available due to the bootloader not being cracked yet
- poor voice calls experience until you wear a headset
So mostly X10 wins over the Galaxy S on the hardware design bits and on the custom UI bits. Galaxy S, however, is overall better in performance after the lag fix. But if you are too scared to do it, you will be stuck with a laggy and freezing FROYO phone. It might even die on you. It's all a matter of finding what you can live with and without and then picking that one. I haven't had any MOTOROLA ANDROID phone, but DROID 2 Global sounds nice, but it's bound to be heavier. Good luck on the choosing. As for me, I'm stuck to these 2 for two years. LOL.
ellokomen said:
yeah, the X10 has a bad phone speaker and the bootloader still hasn't been cracked , and I would love to install another kernel on the X10 because Im looking forward to reverse tethering my phone so I could use my laptop internet
routed to the android phone via USB because I don't have an unlimited data plan.
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are you running WINDOWS 7 or MAC? If so you can reverse tether. MAC supports it natively, I heard, while Windows 7 needs Connectify installed. Just enable your PC's wifi and it shares your 3G internet.
jerkysans said:
are you running WINDOWS 7 or MAC? If so you can reverse tether. MAC supports it natively, I heard, while Windows 7 needs Connectify installed. Just enable your PC's wifi and it shares your 3G internet.
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yeah, I can only connnect to the wifi network using one ID within the authentication center on my workplace, so I cannot connect more than one device using the same ID, thats why I wanted it via USB routing
ellokomen said:
yeah, I can only connnect to the wifi network using one ID within the authentication center on my workplace, so I cannot connect more than one device using the same ID, thats why I wanted it via USB routing
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same situation here. but if you connect to your LAN via wifi, you can't use connectify. too bad. but if you use a network cable, then you can.
jerkysans said:
X10 Cons
- plastic usb flap cover
LOL.
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Oh yeah. I wonder how long mine will last.
Physical.
yeah I can spell.
i own a x10i n my dad have a tmobile vibrant...
-all i can say is vibrant is fast, so fast, very fast compare to my x10i... my x10i lags badly... it takes about 15 sec to start up whatsapp from fresh start...
-the super AMOLED on vibrant is juz awesome... da color is so much better than my x10. the x10 color seems more like wash out... x10 itself plays very nice video, but compare with vibrant, x10 is juz that bad...
-even my x10 seems so crappy against the vibrant i still love it. why? because the slick design and is white... i dont like the outlook of vibrant cause it look so much like an iphone 2 or 3G...(im an iphone hater)
i wish my x10 will have the processor and same amount of RAM as vibrant and of cause the super AMOLED is very nice
on specs, the x10 seems like a real competitor to the galaxy s. every little part in the galaxy s is just a little bit better than the x10. but it does come at a price. big advantages the galaxy s has are things like froyo and multitouch. and though its coupled with a gorilla glass amoled screen and hdmi out, i consider thouse a bit behind the scenes. the x10 has a much better camera and a much lower price tag. the performance is alot better on the galaxy s and its a better out of box experience. because of its price, if the x10 had a newer version of android and multitouch, it would be a no brainer. but until then, if you havent bought either, id say save up a little bit more money and buy the galaxy s.
i would like to stress a few points. multitouch... ive never seen an android 2.1 device with a capacitive screen not do multitouch until now. even the g1 got mutitouch. dont you dare try to justify using the volume buttons to zoom. multitouch is more than just zooming, and its not good at that either. you know how long it takes to zoom in an 8.1mp image by tapping in one level over and over? when it comes to replacement android interfaces, many people will agree with me, im not a fan of either the galaxy s or x10's ui's. sonys timescape might take the cake for the most useless one ive ever seen though. only one company, htc, has really been sucessfull at creating a replacement interface. so if your name is not htc, dont think you can do better than google. gingerbread has been out for a week now, its really sad to see devices still running android 1.6 or 2.1. with the nexus s being a gingerbread phone, i can see other galaxy s phones getting an update right after its launch. sony really needs to atleast try for 2.2.
The Jack of Clubs said:
on specs, the x10 seems like a real competitor to the galaxy s. every little part in the galaxy s is just a little bit better than the x10. but it does come at a price. big advantages the galaxy s has are things like froyo and multitouch. and though its coupled with a gorilla glass amoled screen and hdmi out, i consider thouse a bit behind the scenes. the x10 has a much better camera and a much lower price tag. the performance is alot better on the galaxy s and its a better out of box experience. because of its price, if the x10 had a newer version of android and multitouch, it would be a no brainer. but until then, if you havent bought either, id say save up a little bit more money and buy the galaxy s.
i would like to stress a few points. multitouch... ive never seen an android 2.1 device with a capacitive screen not do multitouch until now. even the g1 got mutitouch. dont you dare try to justify using the volume buttons to zoom. multitouch is more than just zooming, and its not good at that either. you know how long it takes to zoom in an 8.1mp image by tapping in one level over and over? when it comes to replacement android interfaces, many people will agree with me, im not a fan of either the galaxy s or x10's ui's. sonys timescape might take the cake for the most useless one ive ever seen though. only one company, htc, has really been sucessfull at creating a replacement interface. so if your name is not htc, dont think you can do better than google. gingerbread has been out for a week now, its really sad to see devices still running android 1.6 or 2.1. with the nexus s being a gingerbread phone, i can see other galaxy s phones getting an update right after its launch. sony really needs to atleast try for 2.2.
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yeah, read the first post before posting please
hi folks,
maybe i looked over it, but has anyone here ever tried to update a galaxy s.
i did and it's terrible!! samsung kies is like the worst piece of software ever!
and i wondered if anyone ever dropped a samsung galaxy s from normal standing height.
and dropped it so that its dropped flat on a hard(rock) floor.
because i have heard multiple stories about amoled screens falling (not so hard)
and totally shattering across the screen. i see you saying that x10 has TFT but i specially chose an x10 because of the TFT screen.
the screen of the galaxy is amazing though i must say, and i know samsung is always pretty decent in hardware. software=no but hey android is from google so no worries there.
i'd like to see some test of strength with amoled and non amoled
AKA_Rizzo said:
Lenghty... Go make some coffee.
Ok dig this, I had the Captivate for 3 weeks. The short answer is I returned it because it kept turning off. Google Galaxy S Random Shut Down.
Now briefly, all I know about the Droid phones is that same as the iPhone, If you throw a rock in any direction you'll probably hit an accessory for it.. Man they got the whole 9 yards... From Moto Docks to OtterBox (Defender) .
Captivate Pros
Man that screen... NO FOR REAL! That screen is just amazing, And it's a Corning registered Gorilla Glass device. Go google that if you want to.
The Captivate has the most powerful botton in the known universe " Hearing Adaptive" or something like that. It's a huge boost for in coming call volume. Half way between low speaker phone volume and high ear piece volume. And this way you're not picking up everything in the mic like you would if you used Speaker Phone for the volume hike.
The two main cons that make me not miss it.
Turning off ... C'mon really ???
And those damn stock android Menu,Home,Back and Search buttons. I kept hitting Search by accident to the point of moderate frustration. I'm 5' 9" and weigh 157 pounds... I do not have sausage fingers.
Ok let's talk Pinch Zoom. Really I don't miss it. The Magnification buttons we X10 users have seems like a Button to Zipper comparison. We both can do the same thing just in a different way.
X10 pros .... And this one is worth at least 3 Pro spots of value to me.
The 3 phisical button... dear God sweet Jesus, Thank you for those
The 3 things I wish I could change about the X10
In Call Volume . I have had my hearing tested and I picked up zero decibels on my right and slightly worse on my left. It ain't me man, It's the phone. SPEAK UP [email protected]#$%^& !
Accessories.
There ain't none... Like for real. To find an X10 specific anything you have to hire a Sherpa and climb a damn mountain and then when you get there you're only going to find the OtterBox Commuter and Impact, We didn't even get the Defender
The Camera. 8mp of steaming ... Vignette,Camera 360 or stock, I can't take a clear bright picture to save my own life. ( Please don't derail this thread into a Camera Tips and Tricks, Read those and done that)
So after all this, I have run thru The HTC Aria (Tiny Toy), The Samsung Captivate and then finally the X10.
I'm keeping the X10 because out of all the love hate things you may find from one phone to the other this device has the most " I can live with" and the least " I hate" things.
It's a phone, It's not going to bring you true happiness. It's just gonna make calls and keep you interested in between.
Edit-
Battery! The Samsung Captivate needs to be charged everyday... Really.. Everyday and sometime through out the day. It's that screen I think. Imagine those Donkeys at the Grand Canyon. Now imagine them carrying Fat Sweaty Betty from Wisconsin. The battery is doing the best it can given the load it has to carry.
My X10 however could go a day or two between charges. And I use it on full brightness all the time.
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Fantastic post my friend, Kudos for you!!!
pimvanduijne said:
has anyone here ever tried to update a galaxy s.
i did and it's terrible!! samsung kies is like the worst piece of software ever!
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I know right, Samsung Kies suck big time. After I updated my SGS from Eclair to Froyo, the lagginess of Samsung knew no end. I had to install a lagfix then it was all OK. Question is, why can't Samsung have that out of the box since the problem has been popularly pointed out and not all users, I suppose, knows there would be such a fix.
The Jack of Clubs said:
multitouch is more than just zooming, and its not good at that either. you know how long it takes to zoom in an 8.1mp image by tapping in one level over and over? when it comes to replacement android interfaces, many people will agree with me, im not a fan of either the galaxy s or x10's ui's. sonys timescape might take the cake for the most useless one ive ever seen though. only one company, htc, has really been sucessfull at creating a replacement interface. so if your name is not htc, dont think you can do better than google. gingerbread has been out for a week now, its really sad to see devices still running android 1.6 or 2.1. with the nexus s being a gingerbread phone, i can see other galaxy s phones getting an update right after its launch. sony really needs to atleast try for 2.2.
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Timescape is an app not a replacement interface. The general UI overlay on the X10 is much better than the Galaxy S in so many ways. Let's compare the built-in messaging app, for instance of these two phones. At one glance, you get more info on the x10 than on the Galaxy S due to the FWVGA resolution on the X10. Galaxy S also uses enormous fonts and pointless speech bubbles on their messaging app which results to less info being displayed at a time. And this is not just on the Messaging app. On almost everything Samsung-made, they just keep using enormous fonts which makes the phone feel low-res.
I do agree with your points on how sucky the zooming is on Mediascape. It is just not fast enough to justify the loss of MT. But on areas outside of that such as the web, no MT is not much of a dealbreaker. Generally what holds the phone down is the outdated OS, I agree. 2.1 is good and does a lot of stuffs, some even only present in 2.2 were added in by SE anyways, so you can excuse them a bit for that, but it's more of the power-efficiency and performance that you're after with every upgrade and it's a shame SE has no concrete plans for 2.2 or 2.3 on the X10 upto now. Had SE been up to date, SE owners would have been prouder.
P.S. on 16M S-AMOLED and 65k LCD, I don't see much difference. The X10, on proper LCD brightness is on par with S-AMOLED on normal lighting conditions. I find it weird though why at 16M colors, Samsung Galaxy S still dithers. I was expecting this on the X10, but I'm more than glad to see little to no dithering on it.
Hey, what about Droid 2 Global?
I see nothing about Droid 2 Global. By the way, it is the phone for CDMA and GSM networks both. And actually I don't remember any notes about Motorola family vs SE.
Returning to the topic, I have maybe a little politically incorrect point of view on the cell phone (and other technical stuff) design. It is about the culture. Not about "don't littering", but about engineering. Ericsson (and Sony Ericsson) has pretty long history that gave them experience. HTC, Samsung, etc are relatively young and most of their problems are rooted there. Look - overall satisfaction for X10 without the last technology bells and whistles like OLED or multitouch is higher, than hi-tech-packed rival's devices. Why? Because according to the experience, they realize, that it is impossible to be perfect and it is better to concentrate to ergonomics issues. The device should be easy-to-use, foolproof and hard-to-break. That can be understand through the long experience of analyzing how it works through the life of the device. Typical life of Samsung is around a year. I remember my friend changes around 5 or 6 phones (3 or 4 of them were Samsungs), when I used the same SE k790a. And it works fine for now. Another conclusion is to buy a flagship. Budget devices of any manufacturer always have issues. I know, all those galaxies are claimed to be top-models, flagships, bla-bla-bla. But I bet, some months of using reminds you my note about engineering experience.
So, for me, there is the only comparison - X10 vs Droid. And I don't see one. Sorry for my chauvinistic pigness.
the way i see it is
-if you want a keyboard go for the droid 2 global
-if you want an amazing screen then go for the samsung
-if you want to save money then keep the x10
i dont really see a point in upgrading to any other phone right now
So are you satisfied with you Arc? I am coming from an X10, so this is a huge improvement. Everything is extremely fast. Whats your say?
properly awesome.. I seem to be having none of the problems some other owners are reporting..
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This is my first Android...
I'm satisfied
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I had a N1 for a year and now this Arc, I am verry happy specially because it will get rooted in no time and get lot of roms
I'm 3+ year android user and love to see how it developed. the arc has the best screen and camera on a phone that i used.
I am in love with it I cam also from X10 (X10 was my first Android)
Arc is exctly what I wanted to have and settle for a year or more.
All of the features, great camera and design.
SE looks devoted to upgrades and cooperation with Google so...
Very good phone. Reminds me happy X1 times.
Still using X1 which was my best phone ever =) Apart from the classical Nokia 7110
But I already ordered my Arc and I am so looking forward to test my first Android =)
I'm more than satisfied with my arc.
My first phone was an Ericsson GH337 back in 95-96, and since then I've had plenty of motorolas, SE's, Nokias, a few HTC's (WM) and last my X10.
All my phones have had some niggling issue, but so far this thing is leaving me with nothing to complain about. I expected a lot, but it's actually better than I expected.
The call volume/quality and external speaker are outstanding. Phone runs smooth as butter with no lag so far. Screen is brilliant. It's THIN and BEAUTIFUL
My GF also got one, and is amazed how much better it is than her iphone. She's 100% converted to android now
Actually the only thing missing for me is email integration into timescape.
Comming from a Sony Ericsson Satio i am very very happy. The touchscreen is very sensitive and the phone works at the speed i touch it.
Videos play instantly where on the satio i had the green buffering circle.
Emulators and games work better and angry birds is excellent compared to the java satio version.
The only nuisance is the Auto screen lock which means i have to enter my pattern lock each time the screen blanks out.
The Arc kicks the lamas ass!!
Now that I've been able to get rid of the crap that Orange pre-installed on the phone, I'm very happy with it.
When I first got it, the battery life was really bad, but now that I've conditioned the battery, it is preforming much better.
I would recommend it to anyone, although I would tell them to go somewhere like Phones4U or Carphone Warehouse to get one without any of the operator's software.
The World of Dan said:
I would recommend it to anyone, although I would tell them to go somewhere like Phones4U or Carphone Warehouse to get one without any of the operator's software.
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Same with any phone though.
I'd say I'm satisfied but not completely so.
Yes it's a good handset and I like it but it's not perfect.
Unfortunately the poll doesn't seem to cater for people in my situation...
I have a galaxy s as well as an arc, both are excellent phones, I know this is going to sound crazy but I prefer touchwiz to sony UX. Im really missing the toggles on notifications shade, the smart keypad, swiping to call contacts and swype.
But the arc on the other hand is probably the best looking phone evar! great screen, amazing camera and is super fast. So back to the question, am i satisfied. Hell yeah!
I like it but it can be extremely laggy at times. I expected better really but its still better than my desire i guess
shohid1234 said:
Im really missing the toggles on notifications shade...
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CyanogenMod will add that if/when it's ported.
shohid1234 said:
swype.
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Can be installed separately.
As for the rest of it, I'm not familiar enough with the Galaxy S to be able to advise how to duplicate such functionality.
the satisfaction is relative
satisfied :
+bravia trample all others
+fast charging time (bout 60-70mins to 100%)
+sound output quality (using head/earphone)
+smoothness
+design
disappointment :
-divx playback (my worst disappointment)
-stock widgets
-some software bugs
-goddamn media transfer mode (disconnected or not responding after some time)
relative :
±camera (ip4 details are better, but if under low light owns)
±battery life (sometime drained fast, sometime slowly drained)
±auto-brightness
±glossy finish (looks elegant, but fingerprint magnet)
but bout 99% ppl who saw me using arc had those 'wow' face
even my boss who is timid said, "holy **** man, it's so cool"
shohid1234 said:
I have a galaxy s as well as an arc, both are excellent phones, I know this is going to sound crazy but I prefer touchwiz to sony UX. Im really missing the toggles on notifications shade, the smart keypad, swiping to call contacts and swype.
But the arc on the other hand is probably the best looking phone evar! great screen, amazing camera and is super fast. So back to the question, am i satisfied. Hell yeah!
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I'm still on the fence because of those things as well.
There's actually a fix for all those (widgetsoid, dialer one, cyanogenmod) but of course it would have been nice if we have those out of the box.
Nonetheless, Arc is light year ahead of all other phones in terms of beauty!
whats everyones average free memory during normal use? Im trying to figure out if this lag is due to my widgets as my defy did very similar with the same setup but I put it down to being a slower phone.
Does anyone else have lag?
my arcs going back tuesday, mobiles.co have no replacements and have no idea when theyre guna get some more in, ive 3 issues, when in a call the speaker crackles/pops like, second is my camera keeps going to a black screen and cant do anything till i reboot, 3rd is i get some pretty bad lag, id like to thing ive just a dodgey unit, but theyve no replacements so ive to cancel/return it, and either wait till they get more in or get it elswhere, other than that i love the phone
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whats everyones average free memory during normal use? Im trying to figure out if this lag is due to my widgets as my defy did very similar with the same setup but I put it down to being a slower phone.
Does anyone else have lag?
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i get lag at random times, ive only a few widgets and normaly 140mb free except if im running a game
Well guys,
I thought I will take some time to express my feelings over my upgrade from DHD to SGS2. From a normal users perspective not taking into account, the numerous numbers and values
The first thing I felt was the lightness of Galaxy S2. Really light. And very thin too!! But the downside is that the build quality and finishing is nowhere near HTC. The USB jack, earphone jack are all poorly finished. The worst thing is the shiny lining around the screen which is supposed to look like metal. The finishing of the lining is pathetic for a top end phone, it is saddening to see how unevenly light is getting reflected from this surface.The back panel is not as poorly finished as some reviews might tell. It is the most well finished part in the body of the phone I think. Handsfree is bad compared to the one HTC offers, but HTC's wires did have the tendancy to get tangled up very easily.Similary all accesories are inferior compared to DHDs ones.
But ofcourse the lightness is a welcome factor. And most of us will be putting a cover anyway. So poor finishing can be ignored to some extent.
Now coming to the part where the users look almost 90% of the time, the display. It is too good compared to DHD, and this was my primary reason for ditching the DHD.Although AMOLED of SGS2 is the best at present, it too has its flaws. The black crush -The display struggles to distinguish between various black tones, say deep black and shadow black. And color banding is quite evident in the new AMOLED compared to the LCD. But altogether I am amazed with the display. Watching movies is real fun, but some wallpapers do ask for more resolution.
Coming to the UI, I do not miss sense much. Maybe it is due to the fact that sense always reminds me of DHDs dull screen. Whatever the Touch Wiz UI lacks, the display fills up the space... Not literally, but I dont mind staring a few more seconds to the wonderful display. I would say S2 provides a more close to andriod experience. And touch wiz is more colorfull too, with blacks, yellows, greens thrown all around.
Camera is better from DHD. DHD used to produce slightly blurred images, which I think is due to the low shutter speed. No such problems with SGS2.
The most irritating thing is the lag in some important functions. Home screen has some lag to appear after I press the home button. It is due to the software which waits to confirm whether the user has double clicked it or not!!! Stupid!!
The display takes some time to appear after the call is over, this is due to the bad proximity sensor configuration it seems. Again is said to be a software configuration issue.
Another bad thing is the low output of handsfree in a call. Very bad Samsung...
Verdict????
Superb phone!
1. The brilliant display which always remind you that you are looking at the worlds best.
2. Snappier performance.
3. Light weight
4. Good camera
5. Sense is good, but TouchWiz + AMOLED is a Sense killer
Nice to see you're enjoying your new phone, albeit with a few issues
Ordered mine from play.com 2 days ago, so expecting it today/tomorrow
what do u mean by low output of handsfree
See, this is a balanced review/opinion. I agree with most of the points - the GS II is a great phone, not perfect, but pretty damn close.
Hopefully some of the problems like home response time, end of call lag, handsfree volume level and battery life will be ironed out in future firmware releases.
It is possible to adjust headset volume through service menu:
http://answers.pubarticles.com/4766,in-call-volume-low-with-headphones-on-samsung-galaxy-s2-.html
My compliments. I believe the only impartial review ever find onto our phone. I agree with you about everything there are pros and cons and you evaluated them correctly
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Hey,
I'm using the DHD since about 3 months now. Actually got some issues that people tried to call me but got no calls on good connection xD(think it's a provider issue). My cousin has ordered the GS2 last week and is still waiting. I will have a look if this thing will be an opinion . btw I don't like samsung very much at this time, because I had some bad experiences in the past. But how you can say that touchwiz+amoled is a sense killer? The GS2 got a nice display, but I think you can't compare sense with touchwiz AND amoled. So without looking at the nice amoled...what would you say is the better UI? Sense or touchwiz? At the moment I'm using sense 3 on my DHD and I'm really happy, because it's the best UI i've ever used befor.
Imho sense 1.0 still beats touchwiz 4.0 let alone sense 3.0 but touchwiz is't bad, it's just that sense is so much better. I think samsung really want to become the world's leading smartphone. Manufacturer and have really been trying to become much more reliable, updates are frequent and relatively soon after the Google release.
tjtj4444 said:
It is possible to adjust headset volume through service menu:
http://answers.pubarticles.com/4766,in-call-volume-low-with-headphones-on-samsung-galaxy-s2-.html
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There is an appliction "Volume+ " which does the same . I am using it and it
works fine.
It is on the site but I don"t remember where
Daniel
Low handsfree voice
qwerty warrior said:
what do u mean by low output of handsfree
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The handsfree speaker output is low during a call, and the microphone wont pick up the sound properly unless it is held very close to the mouth.. Really irritating.
But the handfree volume is great when using the music player. So some issues with software i guess
tjtj4444 said:
It is possible to adjust headset volume through service menu:
http://answers.pubarticles.com/4766,in-call-volume-low-with-headphones-on-samsung-galaxy-s2-.html
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I found this out when i did a bit of searching, but common, this is a basic functionality and they should have tested this out before launching the product
All the defects I have found so far are simple ones to find out, or if the tester had a common sense, and thats what is annoying me.
Using a silicone case wouldnt help for a better finish?
Anyone I saw some comparison videos between SGS1 and 2 and the new ''mat'' plastic looks way better than the glossy one.
I am just afraid of easy scratches on the plastic like Omnia HD
ike2903 said:
Hey,
But how you can say that touchwiz+amoled is a sense killer? The GS2 got a nice display, but I think you can't compare sense with touchwiz AND amoled. So without looking at the nice amoled...what would you say is the better UI? Sense or touchwiz? At the moment I'm using sense 3 on my DHD and I'm really happy, because it's the best UI i've ever used befor.
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Without looking at the amoled, sense is better than Touchwiz 4.0 by a significant margin. But coming from the DHD, I am wowed by the amoled every time I switch the display on. I assure you, that you will feel the same when you compare both the displays. No need to doubt about that.
But sense has its draw backs. You might have noticed that all the designs and themes are now going towards the 2D side from the 3D side.. Like in gingerbread(evident in icon sets), windows phone 7 etc..... Sense still seems to be stuck with the 3D style with the various bars and other things still trying to imitate the 3D curved effect with various tones of black. It is completely a personal preference I admit. Then there is the app drawer of sense, which pretty much sucks without the ability to customize the order of icons, no folders etc.... One day i find the facebook icon in the second page, the next day after installing a few programs the icon is in 3rd page.. Very irritating for me.
Mail client is bad, which will not let you forward attachments unless you download the file on to your device!! Pretty inferior to gmail app.
Sense 3 lockscreen looks cool but no added functionality for me.. I like things simple, or in the long run i feel it to be a little overwhelming.
Where sense scores is the fantastic people application with real social network integration, perfect widgets... And the dedicated dialler. SGS2 does not have a dedicated dialer. Say i opened the dialer and then went to contacts which is a tab next to dialer. The next time i want to dial and when i press the dialer icon, the contacts shows up. Sense dialer searches the call log first and then the contacts. This gives contacts very quickly. Atleast my girlfriends number will come up as soon as I press two letters No such things for touchwiz dialer. Old way of searching contacts still continues.
Touchwiz keyboard uses auto correction when I search contacts. So if I search for baj, it would correct it to bag and shows contacts with bag..Dumb!!