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Afterall ....it is a PHONE !

Right after flashing with a new baked rom from here i have sorted out many of the software "glitches" the oem rom had and the phones performance is quite good.
im still pretty annoyed at htc that i have to rely on the community to fix their poorly coded software
but at the end of the day its device is one thing .... a phone!!!!! ....and at that, yet again it fails !! the signal reception is crap ... and when it does work the call quality is shocking for such a state of the art handset.
my sisters 2 year old samsung piece of junk gets full signal on the same network, where mine struggles with 1 bar...
rant over .....

have you tried diffrent radio?

i have 2.04.50.22_2 which i think is the newest for my country (uk) the new raido did improve it slightly but it still sucks !

onisuk said:
Right after flashing with a new baked rom from here i have sorted out many of the software "glitches" the oem rom had and the phones performance is quite good.
im still pretty annoyed at htc that i have to rely on the community to fix their poorly coded software
but at the end of the day its device is one thing .... a phone!!!!! ....and at that, yet again it fails !! the signal reception is crap ... and when it does work the call quality is shocking for such a state of the art handset.
my sisters 2 year old samsung piece of junk gets full signal on the same network, where mine struggles with 1 bar...
rant over .....
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You forgot to mention all the SMS issues everyones having

haha dont even get me started, it takes ages to send a bloody sms, i type it out then have to go back and correct nearly every word thats been input incorrectly ! lol

why_999 said:
You forgot to mention all the SMS issues everyones having
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would it sound over smug to say I've yet to see the sms problem?
(insert smug grin smiley here)
hehe

onisuk said:
haha dont even get me started, it takes ages to send a bloody sms, i type it out then have to go back and correct nearly every word thats been input incorrectly ! lol
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sooo.... I don't get it. why don't You sell it then and get something else?? it is just a thing, if it's ruining Your life - get rid of it.

samsamuel said:
would it sound over smug to say I've yet to see the sms problem?
(insert smug grin smiley here)
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Nope. I've never had any problems with SMS either and, as far as I'm concerned, the reception on this phone is 100% fine.
Thread after thread on this forum seems to be taken up with whiners who assume that every little quibble that they have is a problem for everyone. For the record, not only am I perfectly happy with my HD2 but I think HTC did a brilliant job with the hardware AND the software.

+1
I am tired of HTC bashing ... Stop it, please.
If you don't like the phone, sell it. I am very happy with mine. Never had sms problem and reception is just excellent. So the problem is not the phone it self.

No SMS problems with mine either, no bad reception, but several other "glitches".
But then again, im throwing .cabs at this phone in an extreme pace

I really do like the phone and would not want to sell it for one minute. However I do not make many calls.
My reception is shocking as well. In comparison to other phones the reception is extremely poor at best.
I said in a thread a while ago that this phone is fundamentally flawed. I say this because of the positioning of the aerial at the bottom of the phone - and HTC's recommendation not to hold it at the bottom. How the hell else do you hold a phone? And why put the aerial there in the first place?
I really don't think that the phone will get any better with ROM updates.

What I do not like about this phone is the keyboard/touchscreen. I'm slowly getting to grips with it but it's a slow process and quite frustrating. It runs very smooth no crashing or hangups thankfully. I had the SMS bug but turning it off and on cured that..for now. I've sent three texts in landscape mode typing by accident, urgh!
Signal wise, I get an average of 3/full bars in my bedroom. Living on the border between Northern and Republic of Ireland I barely got 2 with previous phones (LG Secret/Xperia X1) using o2. This is stock ROM (1.43.206.4 (70315) WWE) and stock radio (2.04.50.22_2). I'm very impressed with signal alone, but I try not to cover up the bottom.

Well I have never had to modify the way I hold the phone and, as I said before, I don't have any reception problems. If the phone were "fundamentally flawed" as you suggest then the problem you report would be experienced universally.
If people have issues with their phone then I don't have a problem with them discussing them to work together to find a solution. However, that's not what is happening in this forum. Instead people are just whining, complaining and making ridiculous claims and assumptions. The phone isn't fundamentally flawed, it works perfectly for the silent majority who don't have any problems. I understand if people get frustrated by annoying problems but you'd be far better off working constructively to find solutions rather than talking crap.

jakem said:
Well I have never had to modify the way I hold the phone and, as I said before, I don't have any reception problems. If the phone were "fundamentally flawed" as you suggest then the problem you report would be experienced universally.
If people have issues with their phone then I don't have a problem with them discussing them to work together to find a solution. However, that's not what is happening in this forum. Instead people are just whining, complaining and making ridiculous claims and assumptions. The phone isn't fundamentally flawed, it works perfectly for the silent majority who don't have any problems. I understand if people get frustrated by annoying problems but you'd be far better off working constructively to find solutions rather than talking crap.
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A solution to what exactly? the fact that the phone has an aerial in a silly place. Best reach for my multitools in order to reach a solution that is constructive then.

bronx said:
sooo.... I don't get it. why don't You sell it then and get something else?? it is just a thing, if it's ruining Your life - get rid of it.
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its hardly ruining my life you drama queen ! but when i pay the best part of £500 for a handset i expect it to be pretty dam well perfect ! something this phone is not....
as for all the "htc bashing" comment ......well bugger me doesnt that tell you something ??? most people are having problems with their phones numbnut !!!!!!!!!!!
ok fair enough i've got my phone to a usable state via rom flashes and about 10 bug fixes ..... last time i checked not one of my friends or colleges who own a ....(dare a say its dreaded name on these forums) IPHONE have had to do any of that crap....let alone rely on the community to fix the manufactures software !!!!!!!! if i worked for htc and i found these forums i'd be embarrassed

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its hardly ruining my life you dram queen ! but when i pay the best part of £500 for a handset i expect it to be pretty dam well perfect ! something this phone is not....
as for all the "htc bashing" comment ......well bugger me doesnt that tell you something ??? most people are having problems with their phones numbnut !!!!!!!!!!!
ok fair enough i've got my phone to a usable state via rom flashes and about 10 bug fixes ..... last time i checked not one of my friends or colleges who own a ....(dare a say its dreaded name on these forums) IPHONE have had to do any of that crap....let alone rely on the community to fix the manufactures software !!!!!!!! if i worked for htc and i found these forums i'd be embarrassed
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Totally agreed. The other small issue that people are forgetting is that if you sell the HD2 then you are fairly certain to lose money.

onisuk said:
its hardly ruining my life you dram queen ! but when i pay the best part of £500 for a handset i expect it to be pretty dam well perfect ! something this phone is not....
as for all the "htc bashing" comment ......well bugger me doesnt that tell you something ??? most people are having problems with their phones numbnut !!!!!!!!!!!
ok fair enough i've got my phone to a usable state via rom flashes and about 10 bug fixes ..... last time i checked not one of my friends or colleges who own a ....(dare a say its dreaded name on these forums) IPHONE have had to do any of that crap....let alone rely on the community to fix the manufactures software !!!!!!!! if i worked for htc and i found these forums i'd be embarrassed
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no problems with sms or reception on mine... try jailbreaking an iphone every now and then and talk again about crap..

OneGoodKnock said:
A solution to what exactly? the fact that the phone has an aerial in a silly place. Best reach for my multitools in order to reach a solution that is constructive then.
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As I said, there's nothing wrong with the position of the aerial. However, feel free to go ahead and prove me right.

onisuk said:
its hardly ruining my life you dram queen ! but when i pay the best part of £500 for a handset i expect it to be pretty dam well perfect ! something this phone is not....
as for all the "htc bashing" comment ......well bugger me doesnt that tell you something ??? most people are having problems with their phones numbnut !!!!!!!!!!!
ok fair enough i've got my phone to a usable state via rom flashes and about 10 bug fixes ..... last time i checked not one of my friends or colleges who own a ....(dare a say its dreaded name on these forums) IPHONE have had to do any of that crap....let alone rely on the community to fix the manufactures software !!!!!!!! if i worked for htc and i found these forums i'd be embarrassed
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No, all it tells me is that most people that come here to complain are having problems. Nothing more and nothing less.
Has it occurred to you that you might be the problem rather than HTC or the phone? In between all the *****ing and moaning you haven't bothered to tell us anything about what you've done to the phone. How do we know that you haven't installed an application that's responsible for the problems you're experiencing? How do we know that you haven't changed a setting or cocked up a registry setting? If you want help then stop this childish ranting, otherwise don't bother posting.

onisuk said:
Right after flashing with a new baked rom from here i have sorted out many of the software "glitches" the oem rom had and the phones performance is quite good.
im still pretty annoyed at htc that i have to rely on the community to fix their poorly coded software
but at the end of the day its device is one thing .... a phone!!!!! ....and at that, yet again it fails !! the signal reception is crap ... and when it does work the call quality is shocking for such a state of the art handset.
my sisters 2 year old samsung piece of junk gets full signal on the same network, where mine struggles with 1 bar...
rant over .....
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try going to the official HTC web site, download all the software updates. As for the reception, change the bandwidth in order to get full 3g network coverage but be warned, it will drain your batter even more!

Finally got rid of my HD2! yay!

The Worst phone I have ever owned save yourself the trouble of buying one.
The pros - Camera, video, and video playback
The cons = Everything else
its hard to even justify it as a smart phone, maybe if I was not on a forced data plan I would think differently, if sold as a dumbphone. Just not enough apps to do anything with , and it takes about 60 tweaks to make it decent
I think the only thing saving it is the bing turn by turn released today, otherwise dont waste your time on this! Get a used android device, or the new sprint evo instead
Winmo 6.5 is dead, the market proves it.
And yes you can scour the net for apps but you wont find many that are any good, over all the phone sucks

Good for you. Good luck.

Thank you for your input on this matter.
Now, who are you?

digitallysick said:
The Worst phone I have ever owned save yourself the trouble of buying one.
The pros - Camera, video, and video playback
The cons = Everything else
its hard to even justify it as a smart phone, maybe if I was not on a forced data plan I would think differently, if sold as a dumbphone. Just not enough apps to do anything with , and it takes about 60 tweaks to make it decent
I think the only thing saving it is the bing turn by turn released today, otherwise dont waste your time on this! Get a used android device, or the new sprint evo instead
Winmo 6.5 is dead, the market proves it.
And yes you can scour the net for apps but you wont find many that are any good, over all the phone sucks
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So you had to make a post to feel self important. News flash no one cares. Go enjoy whatever phone you got. I on the other hand love the HD2 and think its an amazing phone.

I'm a long time user that has had several rooted android phones, an Iphone, Nokia phones, and much more. I feel my review might help some people in deciding

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I'm a long time user that has had several rooted android phones, an Iphone, Nokia phones, and much more. I feel my review might help some people in deciding
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Well i have to agree i love the phone myself,It all depends on what your using the phone for if you wanted more than carry around one of those mini laptops.Most people that i can tell that dont know how to use something correctly normally dont like the product.compared to a droid n iphone i too have each of them and they dont hold water but thats anothe thread.good luck dude

I don't get it.
I've gone through 2 HD2s, do you guys NOT have freezing issues? or you just don't think there is anything wrong w/ having to reset the phone, deleting messages, not keeping large amounts of music files, having a slow SDHC card come with a high performance device, or anything of that sort?

we all know the problems of hd2 ,so we don't need you to remind us if you don't want to apply more tweaks go and flash custom roms ,otherwise go and buy another shi**Y android phones which has the settings menue of a phone 6 years old and leave us in peace ,
pointless thread please close it

digitallysick said:
The Worst phone I have ever owned save yourself the trouble of buying one.
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And yes you can scour the net for apps but you wont find many that are any good, over all the phone sucks
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Wow, for a senior member I guess you haven't heard of the "INTERNET"...
hoss_n2 said:
we all know the problems of hd2 ,so we don't need you to remind us if you don't want to apply more tweaks go and flash custom roms ,otherwise go and buy another shi**Y android phones which has the settings menue of a phone 6 years old and leave us in peace ,
pointless thread please close it
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+1. This thread should be closed. There are constructive criticisms but this just falls over the edge.
No point opening a thread like this oh and don't let the door hit you on your way out.

N1M1TZ said:
+1. This thread should be closed. There are constructive criticisms but this just falls over the edge.
No point opening a thread like this oh and don't let the door hit you on your way out.
I feel your review will be more one sided and be nothing more than a bashing.
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Well i hated the droid and the iphone is a greedy sorry ass company,and hd2 is an awesome phone and the only problems i have with it is because of my own doing which is my guess their problem to start,if you dont know dont touch it,

Good. Go away.
Threads like this ("No more HD2!") as well as HD2 appreciation threads should be against the rules. They're useless and a waste of space. If people want an actual review, they'll read an actual review. Sorry, but your brief spasm of trollbait material isn't a review.

darkphantom said:
I don't get it.
I've gone through 2 HD2s, do you guys NOT have freezing issues? or you just don't think there is anything wrong w/ having to reset the phone, deleting messages, not keeping large amounts of music files, having a slow SDHC card come with a high performance device, or anything of that sort?
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I don't have any freezing issues. My only issue is T-Mobiles ****ty 3G coverage inside buildings.

speoples20 said:
So you had to make a post to feel self important. News flash no one cares. Go enjoy whatever phone you got. I on the other hand love the HD2 and think its an amazing phone.
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X2 on that...Tj

I am so happy for you! Wow, it couldn't have happened to a better person! You go boy! Yeah, go far, far away!!! [By the way - saying you're a long time user then mentioning iCrap and Android really doesn't help your case. Any 2 year old can use those!]
But the way - Here's the official T-Mobile USA HD2 Update - Direct from T-Mobile!
http://dl.htc.com/ruudownload/t-mobileUS/DeviceDownloads.aspx?pid=leo

Thread Closed. Enjoy your new device

When did it become OK to release a phone that isnt ready for prime time?

Evo had problems, instinct had LOTS of problems, hell my touch pro 2 NEVER ran 100% right.
Now here I am with an Epic, where the gps doesnt work unless I reboot the phone, uploading a 1.2 mb picture takes entirely too long on 3g as well as the phone studders like heck while it's SLOWLY uploading AND to top it all off - it's looking for a signal 50% or more of the time that I'm in a FULL SIGNAL area.
My question is this:
When did this become acceptable in our society? Why are people not being fired over this?????
What MOD EDIT tester didn't notice that 3g uploads are capped? And did they NEVER EVEN TRY TO USE THE GPS after a night or day of the phone being on?
Coming from the touch pro 2 and touch diamond I was SO READY for the Epic to ROCK MY WORLD.
The sad thing is IT WOULD HAVE if I didn't have to deal with these little annoying issues.
Turning airplane mode on and off everyday so my battery will last 12 hours..which still isnt that good.. Rebooting the phone before I plan to use it for ANYTHING navigation related.
What a sour taste I have in my mouth. I know apologists will say "it hasn't even been out a month" well guess what, I work in IT and if I rolled out something new and it didn't work CORRECTLY on the first day, someone is getting in trouble, if I go home before it's fixed, I get fired.
It should be the same thing with the wireless phone industry.
/rant off.

as much as i enjoy my epic i must agree with you, but its not just the phone industry, hell look at video games took ms years to finally get the rrod under control, sony had its ylod problems too....

Dear god, I am sick and tired of seeing these stupid rants everyday.
Every phone is going to have a problem with it, nothing is perfect.
Complaining about it isn't going to magically make it all better.
If your having that many problems with it, then why not return it?
Mods, please make a rant Forum.

mekeke said:
Dear god, I am sick and tired of seeing these stupid rants everyday.
Every phone is going to have a problem with it, nothing is perfect.
Complaining about it isn't going to magically make it all better.
If your having that many problems with it, then why not return it?
Mods, please make a rant Forum.
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That's a great question and the answer is......because I have no alternative device like this with a keyboard.
Your attitude of "every phone is going to have a problem with it" is exactly WHY this whole situation exists in the first place. People are just OK with this type of thing happening.
Also - it's not just me having problems, the whole internet is FULL of epic owners with the same ****ty issues. All I'm saying is that EVERYTIME a phone is rolled out and **** DOESNT WORK - someone should be losing his or her job BECAUSE HE OR SHE DIDNT DO THEIR JOB!!

J3ff said:
That's a great question and the answer is......because I have no alternative device like this with a keyboard.
Your attitude of "every phone is going to have a problem with it" is exactly WHY this whole situation exists in the first place. People are just OK with this type of thing happening.
Also - it's not just me having problems, the whole internet is FULL of epic owners with the same ****ty issues. All I'm saying is that EVERYTIME a phone is rolled out and **** DOESNT WORK - someone should be losing his or her job BECAUSE HE OR SHE DIDNT DO THEIR JOB!!
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People can only do so much with the limited resources they have.
I am guessing your attitude of a phone is that is has to be perfect.
There is never going to be a phone that is perfect.
Sure, there are problems with this phone, dont you think samsung already knows about this and is trying to fix this?

I'm happy with the Epic apart from the fact it pulls power from the battery while plugged in causing it to take forever to charge if you using it heavily.
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mekeke said:
People can only do so much with the limited resources they have.
I am guessing your attitude of a phone is that is has to be perfect.
There is never going to be a phone that is perfect.
Sure, there are problems with this phone, dont you think samsung already knows about this and is trying to fix this?
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According to a sprint admin on the board they had no idea about this till we started reporting it. Why would samsung release a phone with horrible battery life and a crippled GPS if they knew about it? How did sprint testing NOT REALIZE that 3g doesn't go any faster then 150k.
No a phone doesn't have to be perfect, but these issues are DETRIMENTAL to how the phone works.
What's funny is while I was at the store they had plenty of Epics and not one EVO. I'm sitting there wondering why. I guess I know why now.

While I can be a LOT more patient with stuff, and thats because I am too trusting... I have been lately getting more and more aware that some things were overlooked with this phone.
I'm still hoping though, but I got screwed with the Instinct, from.. wait for it, Samsung, because that was supposed to be the first phone to challenge the iPhone and NOTHING, i mean NOTHING ever came out for it. That phone required reboot a year after it came out for some of the dumb issues, cause it wasn't ever updated, and then it was just flat out not really supported with apps like it was supposed to.
Then I got the Pre (diff company I know) but that was the next iPhone killer, and no apps (besides independent minor developing) for 6 months, while Palm and Sprint sat on their asses deciding to not allow developers to work on the Pre for that time for no reason. Result was after a good launch, people got tired and new phones started coming in.
Now this phone has only been out less than 3 weeks and already got an update, which feels to me that it did help the battery some while using 3G, but I gotta test it out some more. I'll be patient with this one, but it's the last device I get and hang on to if it has certain issues from the get go, because you're right j3ff, I think that all the time too, that people that are cool with a product that is mediocre from the get go is the reason why the US has so many crappy things out before they should be, it's also why Europe and Asia are 3 - 5 years ahead in diff tech areas (devices or services).

J3ff said:
What's funny is while I was at the store they had plenty of Epics and not one EVO. I'm sitting there wondering why. I guess I know why now.
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The popularity of the evo has absolutely nothing to do with the issues that the epic has.

J3ff said:
According to a sprint admin on the board they had no idea about this till we started reporting it. Why would samsung release a phone with horrible battery life and a crippled GPS if they knew about it? How did sprint testing NOT REALIZE that 3g doesn't go any faster then 150k.
No a phone doesn't have to be perfect, but these issues are DETRIMENTAL to how the phone works.
What's funny is while I was at the store they had plenty of Epics and not one EVO. I'm sitting there wondering why. I guess I know why now.
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Dear god, why don't you call Samsung up and ask them then?
I have to admit, my phone does have some problems with it.
But I deal with them. By far this is one of the best phones I've ever had.

Every one who buys the epic right aways does beta testing for them. They know it. This is real world testing for them. Just have to deal with it. Yeah it sucks
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Yea I have to agree that the Evo being constantly sold out has nothing to do with the Epic.. What it is, is that Samsung makes the HTC Evo screens. And with them having other devices to make screens for, they only have so many to go around extra for the Evo, especially since its a slightly bigger than normal screen. This means, whenever Samsung decides to toss some screens HTCs way, they do, otherwise their own devices are a priority. And since Samsung makes the Epic AND the S-AMOLED screens there's no shortage of screens for their own device, hence a lot more Epics on hand. I am surprised that HTC didn't go for the S-Amoled screen too, I think that would have turned the tide for some owners.

mekeke said:
Dear god, why don't you call Samsung up and ask them then?
I have to admit, my phone does have some problems with it.
But I deal with them. By far this is one of the best phones I've ever had.
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Dear god, you are the problem, you deal with them and pay major amounts of MONEY and you're just OK with that.
Sure it's a good phone, but phones up to THREE OR FOUR years OLDER both upload FASTER then the epic and have a full fledged working gps.
Also - I did call samsung and sprint, just like I hope all others will, there is NO REASON to just lay down and "dont worry" about major flaws in a flagship device.

J3ff said:
Dear god, you are the problem, you deal with them and pay major amounts of MONEY and you're just OK with that.
Sure it's a good phone, but phones up to THREE OR FOUR years OLDER both upload FASTER then the epic and have a full fledged working gps.
Also - I did call samsung and sprint, just like I hope all others will, there is NO REASON to just lay down and "dont worry" about major flaws in a flagship device.
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1: I do not pay major amounts of money, I got my Epic as a replacement for my broken HTC Evo.
2:I do not recall the older phones having a GPS four years ago.
Your logic is flawed.

This topic largely turned into what I expected it to...
Yes, Americans are completely willing to deal with broken crap as long as they can tie some fanboy fervor to it. Seriously, all you people in here berating OP here because he doesn't really LIKE the fact that he pays top dollar to beta test things need to grow the hell up. There was a topic like this on the Sprint forums where one particular poster was defending the 150kbps upload cap because he claims to never need to upload anything. It doesn't matter if YOU care about the issue, all that matters is that its there and that it happens to be a couple of issues that should not make it out of beta testing.
Geez, I thought the Xbox 360 was the end of this acceptance of unacceptably broken crap.

mekeke said:
2:I do not recall the older phones having a GPS four years ago.
Your logic is flawed.
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Then you haven't been in the high end phone game for 4 years.

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Then you haven't been in the high end phone game for 4 years.
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Funny thing is, I have. I bought the original iphone, and I dont remember that having a GPS.

usfslacker said:
Yes, Americans are completely willing to deal with broken crap as long as they can tie some fanboy fervor to it. Seriously, all you people in here berating OP here because he doesn't really LIKE the fact that he pays top dollar to beta test things need to grow the hell up. There was a topic like this on the Sprint forums where one particular poster was defending the 150kbps upload cap because he claims to never need to upload anything. It doesn't matter if YOU care about the issue, all that matters is that its there and that it happens to be a couple of issues that should not make it out of beta testing.
Geez, I thought the Xbox 360 was the end of this acceptance of unacceptably broken crap.
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It really is crazy to me. Like i said at my job, if stuff doesn't work I don't go home, EVER. Doesn't matter what it is. How can a big company like Samsung let their designers and people who actually give life to the phone leave and go home if the day before they ship them to sprint everything isn't at least CLOSE to 100%

I bought a pocket PC 6700 like 5 years ago, had Naviagtion, and before that I had a phone that had Navigation I believe too. So your problem was the iPhone didn't have, not devices not having GPS

mekeke said:
Funny thing is, I have. I bought the original iphone, and I dont remember that having a GPS.
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Lol, you mean the original iPhone that failed to ship with 3G support at a time when entry level Nokia's had 3G? The iPhone hasn't been the best phone shipped that year for any of its releases. That gentleman said HIGH end.

Does anyone dislike their Epic more and more everyday?

After a few months, the novelty of the phone has worn off and I find myself disliking and regreting my choice to buy this phone more and more every day. From the lack of froyo, software stability issues, gps, problems, useless keyboard, etc, it just seems more and more unsuited for daily use. I'm also becoming disappointed in Sprint's network. At first I thought it was leaps and bounds better than T-Mobile but now I'm not so sure. "4G" is an absolute joke unless you're outside, standing still, and 100 ft from a tower. This is not a flaming bash thread, just how I feel. I'm wondering if anyone else shares my views.
P.S. I live in NYC
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Sorry for the bad experiences man. I'm actually the opposite. I like it more and more everyday. I'm running epic experience froyo. Gps locks in seconds.(for me anyway) runs very smooth. Can't comment on 4g cause its not availabe in my area. Everyones has their opinion I guess. Have you considered the evo? I have to say thogh the evo has a better radio. A couple of friends have it and Ill be sitting right next to them and they get 2-3 more bars than me in certain areas. That's just my observation tho.
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Personally, I still dig the phone even more than I did when I got it. My 4g isn't great either, but there when I need it- anywhere from 2-5mbits. Despite the little the devs have had to work with, my phone (on 2.2) is way faster than when I got it. Stability wise- I've had a few self induced setbacks, but now I back up more often. Once the source is out, the sky's the limit.
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I feel the exact opposite. I'm loving my epic more and more every day. I've been running the froyo betas since day one and it runs just as good if not better than my buddies evo running the official froyo. I do believe I can do without the hardware keyboard because I find myself using the software kb a lot more than I thought I would. But my phone has been great so far. And for some reason I've never had a problem with gps. Even on froyo. I'm in ny also but I live out east in suffolk county so we don't have 4g yet. Doesn't bother me though when I'm home I use my wifi and at work we have wifi as well so I'm good with that. Also.. since having the epic, I get kind of disgusted when I look at a non SAMOLED screen. They look so washed out. This includes the iphone 4s screen although it is a bit sharper
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hugo87 said:
Sorry for the bad experiences man. I'm actually the opposite. I like it more and more everyday. I'm running epic experience froyo. Gps locks in seconds.(for me anyway) runs very smooth. Can't comment on 4g cause its not availabe in my area. Everyones has their opinion I guess. Have you considered the evo? I have to say thogh the evo has a better radio. A couple of friends have it and Ill be sitting right next to them and they get 2-3 more bars than me in certain areas. That's just my observation tho.
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Lol I must have been typing my reply as you posted yours. But our replies look similar
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Lol. First I ditched my captivate(pay as you go) then I got suckered into getting a fascinate and couldn't regret it more. That's why this message is sent from my incredible. And not a Samsung phone period. If Sammy made a phone that sucked my ****, swallowed, and showed pix of Kim kardashian while doing it I still wouldn't buy another one.
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Lol. First I ditched my captivate(pay as you go) then I got suckered into getting a fascinate and couldn't regret it more. That's why this message is sent from my incredible. And not a Samsung phone period. If Sammy made a phone that sucked my ****, swallowed, and showed pix of Kim kardashian while doing it I still wouldn't buy another one.
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The incredible is cute I guess. But I needed a mans phone. I'm done with any screen smaller than 4 in. The incredible is a decent phone but it is inferior to the epic in just about every way. But have fun with that though. And on top of that u pay so much more a month. So its a lose lose in my eyes. Sero ftw
Also i don't see the problem ppl are having with sammy phones. This is my first sammy phone after about 6 htc phones and I don't regret the switch at all. It feels a little plasticy at first but the quality is definitely not bad at all
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I don't have many phone to go by cause this is my first android phone but my friends from work who have iphone4, blackberry and a few other smartphones are all praising my Epic.
As far as 4g goes, I use it all the time and always get a good signal indoors or outdoors. BTW I'm in the Boston market. I did notice while in queens new york I didn't get a 4g signal indoors.

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Lol I must have been typing my reply as you posted yours. But our replies look similar
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Haha agree!
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jok3sta said:
The incredible is cute I guess. But I needed a mans phone. I'm done with any screen smaller than 4 in. The incredible is a decent phone but it is inferior to the epic in just about every way. But have fun with that though. And on top of that u pay so much more a month. So its a lose lose in my eyes. Sero ftw
Also i don't see the problem ppl are having with sammy phones. This is my first sammy phone after about 6 htc phones and I don't regret the switch at all. It feels a little plasticy at first but the quality is definitely not bad at all
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Agree 100%. I would like to see 2.2.1 officially released though.

I am still in love with the phone. The only thing I wish is that we had 2.2 officially.

Actually, yeah, I'm right there with ya. I waited and waited and held off on buying an Evo, in spite of the fact that my wife and my dad were loving theirs, anxiously awaiting Epic launch day. I'm starting to regret it now, like for real. But I don't think the Evo is the perfect phone for me either, but it seems closer. I really like some of the other phones out there, but now I'm stuck on a Sprint family plan, and there isn't **** coming out any time soon (yeah, I know about the Knight, or Evo Shift or whatever, but I don't want a keyboard, dammit). Seems like T-Mo and Verizon are getting sweet new high end phones every week, and Sprint is just happy to get by on the success of the Evo. I guess I might be looking for a trade for an Evo soon, or selling mine on Ebay to buy an Evo. I really want to love this phone, but Samsung just isn't letting me. It'd be nice if every phone was available on every carrier. Stupid back door carrier/manufacturer deals.

Can we just stop making posts about how we hate our epics this is how the community gets into fights, that and when noobs ask questions.
THE FROYO EPIC EXPERIENCE

I'm in nyc and i dont have any of the issues you seem to have, i get 4g at work 5/1 d/u
i get 4g at home 7/1.2 d/u, my 3g service is fairly awesome(except on the corner of 22nd and park where i get ONLY get 4g). the phone itself is everything i expected, i bought great hardware. i fully expected to be able to hack at it and make it how i wanted, which is what we got with the albiet lackluster dev community, but at least i have froyo, the only major drawback that i can see to the epic has been the rather inconsitent seeming quality control on the hardware itself.
GPS working perfect on some or not at all/spotty on others. the major downside to the GPS problem and trying to find a fix(which could be as stupid as putting a papperclip on the internal antenae(dont do this it was only an example)) or just waiting for source and recompiling the drivers to cover more internal revisions of the chip. im guessing that since froyo is still "private beta" that the gps problems will persist, but since everyone seems to believe that di18 had solved it for all, it's hard to say. if you're unhappy with the phone because you feel left behind i dunno what to say except, did you really expect to get more than just a great hardware device and a phone network? We all bought this one above all else because of what it was not what it could become.

I enjoy this phone more and more everyday. I switched over from tmobile and I had the g1 with them and then the motorola cliq, they both worked fine when I 1st got them but being on the tmobile network was a pain, they always had problems(so I'm glad I ditced them after 5 yrs of service.)
Now as for the epic, its way faster then my other 2 android phones from tmobile and it let's me do more, I'm also in NYC and I've notice that 4g only works for me when I'm in the city. When I head home (brooklyn) it just doesn't stay connected to the 4g service so ill agree with you there. The other thing that I don't like is the keyboard and its lag, other then those two things I can deal with this phone, its quite fast and screen is freaking beautiful!
P.S: battery problem is a common for android phones so I don't include that in my dislikes.
- Its just going to be Epic!

I would say I like this phone the exact amount as the day I got it, which is a lot. I would say I like android more and more each day as I find new more useful apps.
As far as the phone is concerned I live and work very close to major freeways so 4g reception is terrific in my workplace and in my home, in fact it is better than 3g in both places. A downside for me is that this phone seems to have worse reception than my old tp2 but it has never really been to much of an issue. The battery has never been a problem for me, I can make it run out in a few hours if I really wanted but last weekend I was sick on the couch the whole holiday and my phone made it 40+ hours chillin beside me since i didn't really use it much. The keyboard is no touch pro 2 but I still prefer it over the screen for typing long emails and now that i have a GAMEGRIPPER i play emulators quite a bit. I do still need to shave down some of the gamegrippers buttons but i digress. Overall I am very satisfied and I hope that there are developers out there who will make stuff targeted at more powerful phones like ours.
edit: sorry the screenshot is kinda weird but it is still readable and my screen was only on for 62 min.

I suppose that there are more things to hate right now.
Battery life needs improvement. Hate.
My phone recently overheated and shut down. Hate.
Ran out of room for apps. Hate.
Pen-tile and poor whites. Hate.
GPS is worthless. Hate.
Very responsive. Like.
Boots up pretty quickly. Like.
Looks different than other phones. Like.
Keyboard - not sure. I actually want a 5-row keyboard, but I want one like the HTC Touch Pro 2; this layout isn't that great.

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I am still in love with the phone. The only thing I wish is that we had 2.2 officially.
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Ok.. this thread is not as boring as the other ones.. I agree with the above,
there is so much to like about the phone. If you don't like it.. get a phone that suits you.

Nah, my phone is really cool I totally dig it. About the only thing I dislike is the fact that the battery doesn't last very long.
About the keyboard.. its funny, I do a lot of typing through swype, like at least 80% or so. Sometimes I think I could have gotten away without a physical keyboard, then I go to type some non-dictionary word or url or something and it's just easier to flip out the physical keyboard than it is to fight with the on screen keyboard. I think of it like that old saying about guns.. "Better the have one and not need it than to need one and not have it."
edit: getting froyo on my phone was pretty easy. I'm marginally technically inclined and it wasn't any harder than installing/configuring an OS on a desktop (I guess technically it is exactly that) It took about a few hours of research and a couple retries to sort all the kinks out but it's very smooth now.
still bitter about that battery tho..
oh yea not receiving 4G service in San Pedro yet still paying extra for 4G is lame..

Nexus S4G Keeping it!

I got this phone on launch. Had the EVO and Hero previously. Had to return one, my fault for partitioning and not backing up before hand.
Running CM7 stock kernel and I am not looking back. It's faster, lighter and the screen is just amazing. I would like to have an LED notifier and HDMI out but I can deal with that.
Anyone in the same boat wondering if you should switch, do it! You will not regret it.
Cheers.

nope got rid of mine on saturday. got an evo until the 3d or galaxy s 2 comes. too many radio issues.

wild1z said:
I got this phone on launch. Had the EVO and Hero previously. Had to return one, my fault for partitioning and not backing up before hand.
Running CM7 stock kernel and I am not looking back. It's faster, lighter and the screen is just amazing. I would like to have an LED notifier and HDMI out but I can deal with that.
Anyone in the same boat wondering if you should switch, do it! You will not regret it.
Cheers.
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Hey, another Minnesotan! Which part do you live in? Around/near the Cities? How's your reception? I live up by Plymouth/Maple Grove and go down the western suburbs all the time. My signal is VERY spotty. I wanna compare to see if maybe exchanging might help.
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nope got rid of mine on saturday. got an evo until the 3d or galaxy s 2 comes. too many radio issues.
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...Can you please go away yet? We all know you don't like the Nexus. You've posted it 3493 times. You're spamming.

gmap516 said:
Hey, another Minnesotan! Which part do you live in? Around/near the Cities? How's your reception? I live up by Plymouth/Maple Grove and go down the western suburbs all the time. My signal is VERY spotty. I wanna compare to see if maybe exchanging might help.
...Can you please go away yet? We all know you don't like the Nexus. You've posted it 3493 times. You're spamming.
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why should i go away? i never said i didn't like it. im not like some of you that stick to a defective device. if you think i was the only one complaining i suggest you do a google search. best buy told me flat out they have had a ton of nexus returns lately. what does that tell you?
you sure don't see me going round telling you guys to return it. so enjoy and stop trying 'failing" to flame!

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why should i go away? i never said i didn't like it. im not like some of you that stick to a defective device. if you think i was the only one complaining i suggest you do a google search. best buy told me flat out they have had a ton of nexus returns lately. what does that tell you?
you sure don't see me going round telling you guys to return it. so enjoy and stop trying 'failing" to flame!
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Very few products launch with zero glitches. It always takes a few months before everything gets ironed out. Even the all mighty iPhone suffers from this. Besides in my area the service is identical to my other sprint android phone, the epic. Its almost certainly a flawed prl as it seems to only effect certain people in certain areas and will surely be fixed.
You cant always expect perfection when being an early adopter.
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fixxxer2008 said:
nope got rid of mine on saturday. got an evo until the 3d or galaxy s 2 comes. too many radio issues.
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My second one works perfectly now. Radios are good and will only get better. Good luck fixxer, you will find a phone.

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Hey, another Minnesotan! Which part do you live in? Around/near the Cities? How's your reception? I live up by Plymouth/Maple Grove and go down the western suburbs all the time. My signal is VERY spotty. I wanna compare to see if maybe exchanging might help.
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I live in the south metro in a no sprint zone. I get one or 2 4g bars. It is identical to the EVO though, at least in my case. The Hero was also the same. When they recalibrate the towers up in Outing I will be golden.

Not you again.
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I made my mind up and I'm keeping my Nexus S. I love it
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wild1z said:
I live in the south metro in a no sprint zone. I get one or 2 4g bars. It is identical to the EVO though, at least in my case. The Hero was also the same. When they recalibrate the towers up in Outing I will be golden.
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It doesn't matter where I am in the Metro, I'm getting spotty signal. Do you think I should switch it out? This one is actually my second, as the first one couldn't stay on 4G even in coverage areas. In the best buy in Ridgedale it would get signal and drop before the sales rep could even walk it out of the store, so he exchanged it for me. Maybe I'll have luck the third time.

wild1z said:
I live in the south metro in a no sprint zone. I get one or 2 4g bars. It is identical to the EVO though, at least in my case. The Hero was also the same. When they recalibrate the towers up in Outing I will be golden.
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im in victoria MN no 4g for me

Fixx: So did you just switch your phone again? Is that 2 or 3 nexus phones now?

fixxxer2008 said:
why should i go away? i never said i didn't like it. im not like some of you that stick to a defective device. if you think i was the only one complaining i suggest you do a google search. best buy told me flat out they have had a ton of nexus returns lately. what does that tell you?
you sure don't see me going round telling you guys to return it. so enjoy and stop trying 'failing" to flame!
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I haven't had any problems with mine. Everything so far has been awesome! Sucks to be you fix
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I love the phone, but I'm on my second one and still having radio issues. I can't hold a wifi signal unless I'm right in front of the router and 3G signal is low and fluctuates like crazy. I'm going back to an Evo tomorrow since BB has them for $50 so the extra loot in my pocket won't hurt either.
I got a second one because it's really a killer phone, but I'm afraid I'm gonna be stuck with a crappy radio for months and I'm not willing to do that.

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I love the phone, but I'm on my second one and still having radio issues. I can't hold a wifi signal unless I'm right in front of the router and 3G signal is low and fluctuates like crazy. I'm going back to an Evo tomorrow since BB has them for $50 so the extra loot in my pocket won't hurt either.
I got a second one because it's really a killer phone, but I'm afraid I'm gonna be stuck with a crappy radio for months and I'm not willing to do that.
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Have you tried doing a PRL update. I did that along with flashing decks rom and I have awesome wifi and 3G better than my Evo or epic
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I'll be keeping mine
You're a fool if you think the EVO 3D wont have problems.

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Have you tried doing a PRL update. I did that along with flashing decks rom and I have awesome wifi and 3G better than my Evo or epic
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I have done PRL updates and it didn't seem to make a difference. I know this is xda, but I don't think I should have to flash roms for the phone to work (although I really appreciate the devs and members here a ton).
Data speeds are better on the EVO 4G sitting next to my NS4G on every speedtest available including the Speakeasy website. When I go to the other room I can't hold a solid wifi signal and the EVO works great even on another floor. I know the EVO GB update has a couple of bugs, but I feel that they will be taken care of quickly by HTC and Sprint.

fixxxer2008 said:
why should i go away? i never said i didn't like it. im not like some of you that stick to a defective device. if you think i was the only one complaining i suggest you do a google search. best buy told me flat out they have had a ton of nexus returns lately. what does that tell you?
you sure don't see me going round telling you guys to return it. so enjoy and stop trying 'failing" to flame!
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I'm not flaming or trolling fix. I do have an honest question that isn't meant to try and piss you off. Since your not liking this phone and deciding to return it, how come you still hang around in this section and contribute to discussions? I could guess why all day but I thought I'd just ask. Like I said, i'm not trying to start anything with you, I was just wondering.

About the topic now. At first, I was very leery of getting burned again by samsung. I read the reviews and played with one briefly at bb and wasn't impressed. I was, when I bought it, I was experiencing my usual impulsive buying itch. I tried 4g the same day and was very disappointed with the results.
Through time, it started to grow on me. I liked the unbranded and lack of bloat and spyware and vanilla ui experience. I thought lacking a notification led would suck big time until I ran across noled. The speaker is a little quiet but a little boost from voodoo sound and volume+ helped. Yeah the radios are kinda deaf but in waiting for maybe a patch for that some time soon. I thought that having a limited video camera resolution would suck until I used it and saw it wasn't low framerate blurry vision like all my other phones. People said it takes forever to charge. Imo, nothing was as slow to charge than the epic. Charging isn't really slow either.
Most of the reported negatives, before I bought it, I have found solutions or work arounds. There's a few things that need to be taken care of with future patches, but it's nice to have the latest and most up to date and pretty stable os around. For the first time, i'm not anxiously waiting for the new evo. Mainly because I don't like sense and I'm spoiled with getting the updates before the other phones.