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I know u ppl got tired of this question , but since I'm ordering new phone these days , I dunno which one to choose.
My vote will go to HD2 , since I heard there will be Android on it aswell (that was my main reason why I even thought about Desire).
I hope you kind ppl can help me solve my "problem"
Cheers,
Alex
Just get a Desire, the HD2 will never run Android as stable day-to-day as phone a designed to run the OS.
Kalavere said:
Just get a Desire, the HD2 will never run Android as stable and as day as phone designed to run the OS.
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Like I thought so, thanks for your reply.
EDIT : Also , other replies are welcome too
depends on what you need most, big screen or android.
Both , but Android on 1st place.
The Desire HD or HTC Ace is due in October basicly a HTC EVO for GSM, it may be worth waiting till that comes out before you buy...
Personally, I will jump to Android when this phone arrives, I'm done (after many years) with WM ...
Thanks for reply , I just can't wait 'till October , but thanks anyway.
pHOBIAZ7 said:
Both , but Android on 1st place.
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if android is your top priority, why is this even a debate???
There has not been one instance of Android as a primary OS on any WinMo phone to date. And that is after, what, 2 years of trying.
Don't let the aesthetics of the HD2 fool you. If your main concern is the OS, then go ahead and get the Desire. No question about it. Android will never be running 100% on the HD2 and if you're not accustom to winmo in general (which mean countless head-scratching as you're trying to make it work), you're screwed.
Then I guess imma buy Desire.
Thanks for feedback.
Actually I'm using desire ROM on hd2, working fine, they made Android really batter in a few days.. think of the advantage of a dual boot
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Hmmm , does it have any glitches / bugs w.e ?
Cuz I don't want my phone to freeze or something , and its brand new.
You bet it does. I am an ex-owner of an HD2 and I swear to God that if the guys from the service center will give me a new HD2, I`ll say "no, thanks... what about a desire?" without having any second thoughts.
Personally, I`m done with the HD2. Full of bugs/freezes/etc, and I might say that I`m not quite the average apple fanboy who wants everything to work out-of-the-box. I love tweaking and hacking, but only to an extent.
pHOBIAZ7 said:
I know u ppl got tired of this question , but since I'm ordering new phone these days , I dunno which one to choose.
My vote will go to HD2 , since I heard there will be Android on it aswell (that was my main reason why I even thought about Desire).
I hope you kind ppl can help me solve my "problem"
Cheers,
Alex
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my girfriend has the htc desire. in my opinion it has only 2 advantages over my hd2: better screen sensitivity and a brighter/more colorful screen (which i find not very natural anyway...).
the hd2 can run android now, it has a larger screen (with more natural colors) and i'm not willing to give up on wm just yet. android is very finger friendly, tons of apps and a more "secure" future ahead but i got bored with it very quickly.
so to make things short, i recommend to go with the hd2 or wait for something else...
oh, forgot to mention - your experience with the hd2 is highly dependent to the rom/radio/location "trinity". i am very happy with mine
I really wanna say: get the HD2.
An Android ROM should be made available in another month or two and with all the development behind the HD2 (on XDA of course!), it might even run Android better than the Desire some day. And who knows, the HD2 might be ported to WP 7 some time next year.
How about them apples?
nzxtneo said:
I really wanna say: get the HD2.
An Android ROM should be made available in another month or two and with all the development behind the HD2 (on XDA of course!), it might even run Android better than the Desire some day. And who knows, the HD2 might be ported to WP 7 some time next year.
How about them apples?
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I serverly doubt there will be a flashable ROM for the HD2, read here, Zarathustrax has a good knowledge of Android ports.
Kalavere said:
I serverly doubt there will be a flashable ROM for the HD2, read here, Zarathustrax has a good knowledge of Android ports.
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what are the two phones that have flashable roms
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what are the two phones that have flashable roms
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I haven't a clue my friend, Zarathustrax is the man to ask.
I think you should get the HD2. What can the Desire do that that the HD2 can't? And that massive screen dweebs out any other phone on the market. Plus the HD2 is cheaper than the Desire.
If HD2 will get a Stable and fast Android rom.....go to HD2....you will have two SO on a big, big screen.
but just if will have android stable...in contrary....
[Q] Simple question - NAND & Android on HD2 - Why we still cannot get working NAND v.
Well, my question is simple :
Why we still dont have NAND version of Android ?
Is it problem with .... drivers or anything else ?
Please tell me what is the problem. Why its so hard to develop working NAND Rom ?
screen orentation sensor makes the screen lag ... and there are still some major bugs
Why is there so much craving for a NAND version?
What's wrong with having Android running from the SDcard?
As long as that still doesn't function 100% (screen/g sensor/footprints in sense etc..), why would you want to have a Nand version? I doubt that that will actually change anything.
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Why is there so much craving for a NAND version?
What's wrong with having Android running from the SDcard?
As long as that still doesn't function 100% (screen/g sensor/footprints in sense etc..), why would you want to have a Nand version? I doubt that that will actually change anything.
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I guess the myth is if it's NAND then battery will be better which I really doubt.
Sorry but it's not an answer.
Many people want to have Nand version and it's their choice , but
it could be a good idea to tell us why there is so many problems
to create this kind of rom.
What parts are missing ....
What needs to be compiled ...
What to repaired...
Need some tech informations about this .
Who knows , many people is to busy to try create whole rom , but
there is many of us who knows programming and could Help .
But if someone will tell us what is a biggest problem ...
Linux was creating by many people , so maybe this time we can find solution together ?
Do a search!
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So what if i will use search.
I will get 2,000 posts with small ammount of answers.
Will be easier if any dev will completly with details
answer this question.
It will stop another 2,000 posts to occur .
Many questions - one answer.
It isn't working because only a handful are working on it while the rest whine and think a lame post begging for an eta will motivate the devs. If you want it done pick up a book and start learning about linux coding. It isn't done yet because nobody tries on their own.
Just because the initial development was lightning quick doesn't guarantee it will all tidily come together at the same rate.
Do you remember what appeared on your HD2 when you first turned it on? Windoze f'ing mobile. Be grateful for what you have.
To motivate the coders even a bit more you could create a "Who will be the 1st Android NAND coder" thread where users can donate cash for the price money.
The 1st coder who does so will win the cash.
Me.. I've donated cash already to some of the coders here, and I can wait till we have a stable good working version.
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To motivate the coders even a bit more you could create a "Who will be the 1st Android NAND coder" thread where users can donate cash for the price money.
The 1st coder who does so will win the cash.
Me.. I've donated cash already to some of the coders here, and I can wait till we have a stable good working version.
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You know ... it could be a great idea .
If someone trusted will keep grand prize for this so why not ???
First person that will make a working rom will get a BIG PRIZE ....
might work .
After testing, if we see that it really works ....
I could donate if someone will start something like this.
I don't know how fair it would be to say the first to make an android would get the prize... Most likely it will be a cook making the rom using the work of many developers. It will be the same group of devs that got android working in the first place that will get it working on nand.... Dcordes, cotulla, netripper, etc... Might as well just donate. I'm sure it will be a group effort by them.
Nand is difficult because we will need a lot of new drivers to initialize the hardware... Right now winmo is used to initialize most hardware for android. I don't understand why you think it shouldn't be difficult... Look at other winmo devices that can run android... Only 2 out of a dozen can even boot from nand... And the nand versions are less functional than the versions run from sd card. It takes a LOT more work to get everything working on its own from nand without winmo to initialize hardware. I would expect the same with the first versions of nand booting for the hd2 also.... It will probably be nowhere near as functional as booting from sd until a lot of development is done. Be patient... It could be a long time before we have a nand bootable android that's anywhere as stable and functional as the sd bootable builds we currently have. I also doubt that speed or battery life will be much better with nand, if at all. We have great speed & batteries with our sd versions already... It will be hard to beat that with new nand versions, especially since many drivers for nand will probably have to be made from scratch. But you never know... We have some great devs and I've already been surprised with what they've accomplished.
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I guess you'll have to wait until the day you hire your own Android HD2 developer, then you can have them working on things that -you- want.
seriously, I'm not being sarcastic. I'm actually pondering about creating some sort of donations thread just to fix particular problems.
But, because this is a community driven effort, we are at the mercy of whatever developers/chefs want to have. If you don't like that, you may want to consider becoming a developer/chef yourself..
klopikxda said:
Well, my question is simple :
Why we still dont have NAND version of Android ?
Is it problem with .... drivers or anything else ?
Please tell me what is the problem. Why its so hard to develop working NAND Rom ?
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I'm actually quite happy with my HD2 running off of SD... It's actually faster than WM 6.5! Everything I have tested works including hotspot. Running mccm 1.5 with chuckydroid ROM
And I have the best of both worlds...Android and WM 6.5!
i was wondering how everybody feels about switching the two oss...place wimo on the sd and run android from nand...so you still have both. because from what ive been reading, having both oss on the nand is out of the question, unless you have a us hd2 that has more internal memory....just a thought
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i was wondering how everybody feels about switching the two oss...place wimo on the sd and run android from nand...so you still have both. because from what ive been reading, having both oss on the nand is out of the question, unless you have a us hd2 that has more internal memory....just a thought
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There is no android app to shut down android and launch windows kernel, so that possibility is very far away if it's even possible. First they would need to get android booting off nand, which is a ways off, then a haret type app would need to be written for android that can launch the window ce kernel, which may be very difficult because windows is not open sourced, and then a version of winmo that will work with that will need to be developed.
I don't see this as being very likely to happen. If you want nand android, you're going to lose winmo.
Personally, I don't see why everyone wants to boot android from nand... It works so well from sd and you get to run multiple os on your phone. And looking at the history of nand booting android on winmo phones, the nand versions are usually less functional and don't really improve speed or battery that much. Doesn't seem worth it to change a multiple os superphone into a subpar android-only phone. But that's just me.
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I guess the simple question would be why? What do you gain from that setup compared to what we have today? You'd still get 2 OSes, but with a -lot- more work I presume.
right?
dontw said:
i was wondering how everybody feels about switching the two oss...place wimo on the sd and run android from nand...so you still have both. because from what ive been reading, having both oss on the nand is out of the question, unless you have a us hd2 that has more internal memory....just a thought
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I completely understand. I was just curious..Im sure there wouldent be any benefit of nand booting except another option and being able to shut up people from asking about it lol...I personally don't mind android running off the SD card...I have two and I use one as my everyday android build and I use the other for when new builds come out so I can try it out. Pretty sweet if yu ask me I'm sure some type of nand build will b out soon...everyone just needs to be patient
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Meh, I'd rather have our awesome devs working on meaningful things like the touch screen lag...
dontw said:
I completely understand. I was just curious..Im sure there wouldent be any benefit of nand booting except another option and being able to shut up people from asking about it lol...I personally don't mind android running off the SD card...I have two and I use one as my everyday android build and I use the other for when new builds come out so I can try it out. Pretty sweet if yu ask me I'm sure some type of nand build will b out soon...everyone just needs to be patient
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KrewsialNL said:
Why is there so much craving for a NAND version?
What's wrong with having Android running from the SDcard?
As long as that still doesn't function 100% (screen/g sensor/footprints in sense etc..), why would you want to have a Nand version? I doubt that that will actually change anything.
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footprint works on sense
i prefere sd card over nand ,easy switch between roms ,ihave 4 different roms on my sd card
hi i know this is stupid but can someone help me find a way to port android on the hd7 i know this is an hd2 section but i want to know if the same ppl that ported it to the hd2 can ported it to the hd7 because i had the hd2 with android and i loved it but now i have the hd7 and wp7 isnt as good as i though it suks compared to android
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hi i know this is stupid but can someone help me find a way to port android on the hd7 i know this is an hd2 section but i want to know if the same ppl that ported it to the hd2 can ported it to the hd7 because i had the hd2 with android and i loved it but now i have the hd7 and wp7 isnt as good as i though it suks compared to android
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This should be in the HD7 section HERE: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=832545
Or post this question here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=781
The developers will get round to it at some point im sure, only problem being that at the moment if a WM7 phone is unlocked then the OS will notify microsoft and shut-down/reset after 2 weeks. Its a built in security they have implemented which, as far as I know, the devs havn't got around yet, but they will im sure.
Hope this all helps.
that's silly. if you had done a thorough research you'd know android is better than wp7.
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that's silly. if you had done a thorough research you'd know android is better than wp7.
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I agree, MS will struggle to put a dint in the market with WM7 unless they have some pretty epic updates....copy & paste currently just isn't gonna cut it
As per title..what do ppls here prefer? Pros and cons on each pls.
Got hd2 for a throw away price and atm on mango. Considering Android for lack of Skype.
Thanks.
starfarer said:
As per title..what do ppls here prefer? Pros and cons on each pls.
Got hd2 for a throw away price and atm on mango. Considering Android for lack of Skype.
Thanks.
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Search a bit and you will find a lot of pros and cons
If you want a stable and fast rom, go for nand
starfarer said:
As per title..what do ppls here prefer? Pros and cons on each pls.
Got hd2 for a throw away price and atm on mango. Considering Android for lack of Skype.
Thanks.
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You could just use the search button and find loads of threads like this But I would recommend a dual-boot with Windows Phone 7 to test different SD builds and find a ROM you like, then install a NAND version of your favourite ROM (providing you actually like Android).
Ok done nand ver. ATM running ok and finding a pleasant experience. BTW I own n1, gs2 and milestone 2.
On side note:Comparing between ms7 and Android on one phone(both not native) is an eye opening experience. Never realised that Android is so bad!! while WinMo is very smooth every where.Wished they had few app that I need :-(.
Hardware wise, very impressed with gps fix and speaker quality.Build quality second to none and gs2 feels like cheap toy. The size of phone is perfect for me and omg how I missed those hardware call/end buttons!
Very happy for £60!
Thanks all.
Well that would be nand of course, unless you've got February EU HD2.
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What have of difference the HD2 EU from Febraury ?
As my personal experience you can go with winmo7 on nand and American Android SD version. All depend on your choice.
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As my personal experience you can go with winmo7 on nand and American Android SD version. All depend on your choice.
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what is winmo7 ?
He means Windows Phone 7.
Hi All,
I tried looking for an answer, but could not find one - So Im asking.
I was interested in trying Android (ICS/JellyBean) on my HD2.
I am interested in an SD version, so I would not need to remove WM, and be able to run it from WinMo
(Since from my experience with other Android devices, some of the WinMo features do not exist there)
So after this description, I could not find any Android for SD with Sense.
Is there a reason for that ?
What is the reason ?
Could there be an SD Android with Sense ?
Many thanks in advance.
Som30ne said:
Hi All,
I tried looking for an answer, but could not find one - So Im asking.
I was interested in trying Android (ICS/JellyBean) on my HD2.
I am interested in an SD version, so I would not need to remove WM, and be able to run it from WinMo
(Since from my experience with other Android devices, some of the WinMo features do not exist there)
So after this description, I could not find any Android for SD with Sense.
Is there a reason for that ?
What is the reason ?
Could there be an SD Android with Sense ?
Many thanks in advance.
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You couldn't find a single SD Android build with Sense? You're f**king kidding me right? And if you mean with ICS or JB, then why don't you try developing one yourself before complaining?
Nigeldg said:
You couldn't find a single SD Android build with Sense? You're f**king kidding me right? And if you mean with ICS or JB, then why don't you try developing one yourself before complaining?
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Yes, I mean ICS or JB.
Im not complaining, but asking.
and thanks for your very informative and welcoming answer.
there are no ics or jb roms with sense (nand or sd) because the latest versions of sense don't work on the hd2 (at least that's my understanding) so the best you could hope for is someone to crowbar an older sense or small parts of sense, onto ics/jb, which doesn't seem that likely just yet.
(lets not forget that however amazingly stable the ics/jb roms are, theyre still in an early stage of development)
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there are no ics or jb roms with sense (nand or sd) because the latest versions of sense don't work on the hd2 (at least that's my understanding) so the best you could hope for is someone to crowbar an older sense or small parts of sense, onto ics/jb, which doesn't seem that likely just yet.
(lets not forget that however amazingly stable the ics/jb roms are, theyre still in an early stage of development)
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Thanks.
I remember that I did see at lease some ICS with sense,
for example
http://android.hd2roms.com/details/?r=804
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1769081 (from my understanding this is ICS as it says it's a One-X rom)
All were NAND, or at least require significant ROM changes (radio, and other stuff for MAGLDR)
So - before I try to brick my phone, I want to have a go with haret, and see if I can live with the android,
and see if the features I was missing when checking android on other devices now exist, and/or if I can live without them.
For example - when you have several notifications, you can either dismiss them all, ot snooze them all, but not one by one.
I did not see a "repeat" option for reminders (like WinMo, that plays the sound over and over again every 30-60 seconds)
and so on.
...but not one by one
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try swyping the ones you want to dismiss off the screen to the right.
Could you make it any more obvious that you're trying to get 10 posts? Chances are, you're only doing it to post a question in the dev section (which isn't where questions should be). If you want to get to 10 posts, try actually answering questions, and see the first guide in my sig. Post reported.
@OP, I was sorry at my harshness earlier. Genuinely don't know why I was such an arse. Anyway, I think samsamuel has pretty much explained it. Sorry