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dose any one think there will be a port of 2.2 standard build to the Hero as this would be a good thing as it has flash & jit built in.
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I don't think so..
I don't believe that HTC will invest money and time to develop it..
I doubt HTC would invest in a port anyway.. But I sure see some chance of the Legend being updated and this rom being portable by some rom genius to the Hero, why not?
Assuming there are any Hero's existing at the time an actual update to 2.2 will be available for the Legend
Ofcourse. This doesn't need to be done by HTC.
We've seen many ports for the Hero. We had 1.6 and then 2.1 ported to the Hero, before the Legend roms were even leaked. Just recently the MyTouch Slide (HTC Espresso) has been ported to the Hero, so I don't see why we won't see 2.2 (Froyo) on the Hero.
It's not only down to porting it from the Legend, we could see a port from a new device, not yet released.
There's no point waiting for HTC to officially release 2.1 or 2.2. The custom roms on here are a better option and to be honest, I don't think I'll even update to the official 2.1 release when it eventually comes out, because Sense on the MyTouch Slide port is far better. Obviously I will if they update to this new version of Sense, but I doubt they'll do that.
But yes, I'm confident we will see Froyo on the Hero, not officially from HTC however.
wtf is this!2.2?They sureley havent finished 2.1 yet!
@bonesy
lol....
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dose any one think there will be a port of 2.2 standard build to the Hero as this would be a good thing as it has flash & jit built in.
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I think minor updates like 2.2 should be easily possible after the HTC Hero gets the OTA Update possibility during the 2.1 update.
I don't think that HTC needs to put in much ressources for minor updates.
At least this is what i expect, because if EVERY minor update is handled like the 2.1 one with long delays, then many people will think twice before getting an HTC device. But only time will tell...
from what i read it would have to be custom 2.2 as it will have jit built in and the sense ui is not compatable yet. also woulnt 2.1 drivers be easyer to port to 2.2 than 1.5 to 2.1.
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I don't think the hero will be able to keep up enough to run 2.2.
Since it has flash 10.1 and the hero isn't powerful enough to run it. Maybe a cleaned out version.
i dont mind about flash as i wouldnt use it for videos as android has a youtube app for most the videos i watch would be ok for other flash stuff but i know what you mean about speed but the hero as standard came with htc flash and thhat worked ok
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Let we just wait untill the 2.1 update, then we move on
btw, what is JIT?
Let we just wait untill the 2.1 update, then we move on
btw, what is JIT?
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JIT : just in time compiler....is used to compile code...
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JIT : just in time compiler....is used to compile code...
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yeah its to compile code on the fly so that it runs apps faster on the device
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Well, in my humble opinion, with some overcloacking, and jit, i think we could think about running 2.2, so in my opinion yes, there is a possibility, the problem is to get a 2.2 kernel source...
I'd love getting 2.2 on my Hero, with all the auto-updating and individual stock program updates automatically being pushed to your device.
There will be no 2.2 for Heros ... and Google (not HTC) is the reason for this. For Froyo they will upgrade the kernel from 2.6.29 (used for Android 1.6,2.0,2.1) to 2.6.3x and no one at HTC will take the effort to update the drivers for the Hero. There will be minor bug fixes for the 2.1 Hero release, but no major upgrade in future.
Google sucks, HTC sucks and if they keep it this way, Android fragmentation will suck even more.
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There will be no 2.2 for Heros ... and Google (not HTC) is the reason for this. For Froyo they will upgrade the kernel from 2.6.29 (used for Android 1.6,2.0,2.1) to 2.6.3x and no one at HTC will take the effort to update the drivers for the Hero. There will be minor bug fixes for the 2.1 Hero release, but no major upgrade in future.
Google sucks, HTC sucks and if they keep it this way, Android fragmentation will suck even more.
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How does using the latest kernel (with bug fixes, and many new features) make it google's fault. It's HTC who won't be bothered to update drivers etc (to be fair on them, the hero is an old handset for them and there's no point for them to do it)
Whatever bugs are in the kernel, Google already fixed/patched them for the Android 2.6.29 kernel. The kernel adaption they are doing are minor (power management, OpenBinder, etc.). So there is no real reason to upgrade that often. They kept the kernel stable for 3 version and now they are breaking compatibility again - why?
Look at MontaVista, Windriver and many others that do embedded Linux and guess how often they update kernels? However I agree with you that Heros will possibly not be able to run Froyo properly anyhow, so why bother with them? Overall it is a frustrating experience - but don't get me wrong here, despite this update odysee I am more than happy with my Android powered device and my next one will be Android again. Maybe not from HTC, and maybe I will not be awaiting any updates that eagerly again but let's see what comes next.
The chances of getting 2.2 are practically none. As has been stated, 2.2 will be using an upgraded kernel from 2.1. The only reason we have 2.1 ROM's at the moment is because there was a hacked leaked kernel from HTC (which is why it is buggy and has poor battery life), so unless HTC actually commit to an official release for the hero, even the geniuses here at XDA wouldn't be able to get 2.2 running on our Hero's.
Greetings fellow Droid Incredible users. I am interested in getting some information on the possibility of us modifying the bluetooth specifically in the Sense version Roms. The reason for this inquiry is I have noticed that wiimote works with Cyanogenmod on my droid incredible confirmed today in testing. It does not on the 2.2 Froyo Sense version. I'd like to keep sense and stock but have the full bluetooth capabilities of Cyanogen. I know this is a specific issue and that loading a non HTC sense rom is a work around. How hard would this be to do? Is it even possible?
thanks for your time and happy modding. Have to say these roms are a blessing.
Might I suggest the 3.21.605.1 RUU leak?
Some people are having doubts as this will be the offial OTA to be released tomorrow, but it is, says the same software verison on the Verizon page.
Bluetooth working peachy for me!
I tried the wiimote. No dice. Cook something up and I will be grateful.
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Might I suggest the 3.21.605.1 RUU leak?
Some people are having doubts as this will be the offial OTA to be released tomorrow, but it is, says the same software verison on the Verizon page.
Bluetooth working peachy for me!
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Bluetooth works but doesn't fully support all the things it should like HID and SPP profiles. It's clear there is a difference in the bluetooth packages and I don't understand why.
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Bluetooth works but doesn't fully support all the things it should like HID and SPP profiles. It's clear there is a difference in the bluetooth packages and I don't understand why.
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Well since we are going THAT far lol, I know on HTC's dev website there is the 2.2 Bluez driver that you can take a look at if you have any development background.
http://developer.htc.com
HTC Incredible BlueZ Source Code (Froyo MR)
I wouldn't even know where to begin as far as that goes, hope that points you in the right direction.
I appreciate the responses guys. Keep them coming. I will be looking into a possible mod with the latest leak but a modified bluetooth stack to resemble/replicate the full functionality of the Cyanogen mod bluetooth on the Droid Incredible.
This potentially could add more functionality to bluetooth:
Connection to more bluetooth keyboards and other devices
wiimote functionality for emulators
other applications.
Bluetooth SPP and HID profiles are often used in many car types including BMW, Mercedes, Volkswagon, etc. Some people have been posting on the HTC site that they have lots of issues with bluetooth staying paired or even not pairing at all.
I believe we are working with a pre 2.1 Eclair bluetooth stack that HTC never bothered to update. Perhaps this breaks the Sense UI and they don't want to do the coding work for it work. I will continue to look for some answers.
My understanding is that there is something in Sense that does not get along with newer stacks.
Well how does the Cyanogenmod rom get the bluetooth stack working? Is it a simple file replacement or something complicated?
By not using sense. Something in the UI causes the broken bluetooth with the wiimotes.
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Well how does the Cyanogenmod rom get the bluetooth stack working? Is it a simple file replacement or something complicated?
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This is what I am curious about as well.
xarthos said:
I am interested in possibility of us modifying the bluetooth specifically in the Sense version Roms. The reason for this inquiry is I have noticed that wiimote works with Cyanogenmod on my droid incredible confirmed today in testing. It does not on the 2.2 Froyo Sense version. I'd like to keep sense and stock but have the full bluetooth capabilities of Cyanogen. I know this is a specific issue and that loading a non HTC sense rom is a work around. How hard would this be to do? Is it even possible?
thanks for your time and happy modding. Have to say these roms are a blessing.
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I'm cheerfully bumping this thread. I do no want a wiimote on my Dinc (rooted with leaked 2.2 ROM), but I do have a dire need to support Bluetooth mouse and keyboard on my Dinc.
I do appreciate sense and I have applied cyanogen on my wife's D1.. which is perfect, for being on a Moto Droid..
So I'm with xarthos... i just want full BT features on my semi-stock Dinc.
on a side note... yet another reason is the fact that the BT audio quality in sense based roms sucks...
We setup cm6 on one inc, left the other with plain sense... even my wife could tell a difference in a blind listen test in the car.
almost like comparing a 64khz mp3 to a cd... massive sound quality difference.
Xarthos,
I hear many conflicting stories on htc bluetooth.
I understand htc has an incomplete broadcom chipset bluetooth stack in some models like the incredible. But this doesn't make sense since cm6 supports bluetooth just fine.
I can't really give you any useful help.
--But I do have $25 or more for the solution you describe.. Sense with bluetooth.
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This has been a consistant test for me as I jump around between ROMS due to the fact that I like to play my DINC emulators with a WiiMote (Yes, I'm nerdy enough to carry one in my backback when I commute). It's been pretty consistant that all the Sense ROMS don't work while the Senseless roms do.
Confirmed working:
CM6
Ruby 1.1.0 and 1.1.1
Confirmed not working:
SR 3
Virt 2.6 & 2.7
Leaked 2.2
Stock 2.1
Not Tested:
SR3 Vanilla
Why we couldn't take the bluetooth stack from one of the working ones and put it on a Sense one, I don't know. I'm honestly not knowledgeable enough to even attempt it nor know anyone who has. I've actually a little surprised this subject isn't brought up more, I'm guessing most people either don't use bluetooth or it works enough for their needs.
BUMP!
Is anyone looking into porting/adapting the CM6 BT Stack for sense ROMS?
I tried messing around with it, but am still having problems... I have a semi-flashable zip in progress if anyone can help me figure out what to do next.
I've been been out of the loop for pretty long, and was just wondering what users of xda considered to be the best rom out at the moment. Currently on elelinux, but fancy a change, cheers!
CyanogenMod 7 was released today... but I can't seem to get it working. I'm (still) on 6 at the moment and I really like it.
Cyanogen 7 is reallllllyyyy slow.
Depends wether you want sense or aosp.
My favourite sense is chocolate froyo but it has no camera.
My favorite aosp is probably elelinux 2.3 but it has been really buggy. He released a new version today that promises to fix it but to be honest I am so happy with villain 13 that I probably won't flash again until either sense 2.2 or bonesys 2.3 have camera.
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Froyo: Elelinux Speedmachine v3 or Floyo 1.2
Gingerbread: Cronos Gingerbread 2.0.1
I'm not sure about 2.1 sense roms but i think cronos or villain would be best here.
Went from stock android 2.1 to VILLIANROM 13 then to tastyfroyo 1.2 then to CM7 nightly build #35 then now with CM7 stable release. CM7 was best for me but this stable release really buggy with the notorious transparent menu bug..
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no problem for me on cm7 !
not slower than cm6.1 rc1 that i had just before
If you need stability, do not touch CM7 for Hero. Wait at least for 7.1. There is an unfixed problem with overflowing graphics buffer in Android 2.3.3. Other devices also suffer from this issue, but Hero suffers more, as it has less graphics memory.
Actually no 2.3 ROM is satable and fast enough. I am using CM7 nightlies, but they can sometimes be a PITA.
I would suggest FroydVillian 1.7
Soon there will be Real Gingersense For an alfa it´s awesome
I'm using VillainRom 13 because I want Sense. Looking forward to their 2.3 with new Sense offering though.
i just installed Cyanogen 6 , it's my first time
how i wishsed to use fallah rom cause it's fully supporting arabic
Are there any Sense ROMs that are CM-based for the Hero?
My girlfriend has a Hero that I've got rooted running LiquidSense right now (see sig). It's running pretty well, and she likes the interface. Early on I tried installing aospmod to see what she thought of it. She was not a fan. So CM is out of the cards for her. Moreover, I'm not a fan of CM since it seems to be pretty unstable overall. She needs her phone for work. It needs to be stable. And I really don't feel like I should have to update her phone with nightlies just to have something that's been upgraded since last Spring.
So my question is: Are there any STABLE Sense ROMs for Android 2.2 or 2.3? From what I can tell, any development for the Hero is sticking to CM7. I see that there's a Hero theme for CM7 now, but she wants the full Sense experience (incl contacts, etc), and not just the visuals.
There are a couple of 2.2 roms, but I don't think they are complete. If you want a full and complete sense rom, liquid is about it.
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Are there any Sense ROMs that are CM-based for the Hero?
My girlfriend has a Hero that I've got rooted running LiquidSense right now (see sig). It's running pretty well, and she likes the interface. Early on I tried installing aospmod to see what she thought of it. She was not a fan. So CM is out of the cards for her. Moreover, I'm not a fan of CM since it seems to be pretty unstable overall. She needs her phone for work. It needs to be stable. And I really don't feel like I should have to update her phone with nightlies just to have something that's been upgraded since last Spring.
So my question is: Are there any STABLE Sense ROMs for Android 2.2 or 2.3? From what I can tell, any development for the Hero is sticking to CM7. I see that there's a Hero theme for CM7 now, but she wants the full Sense experience (incl contacts, etc), and not just the visuals.
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i too use my phone for work and there are stable versions of the CM variations, the nightlies are for the most part unstable.. the sense integration was cool, but stock android you can do all of the same by installing the apps that integrate the contacts, which essentially is all that HTC did with sense, they just used their own apps (which arent as good).. my wife was a huge sense fan, but after i got her to try something other than sense for a while she came to realize that it wasnt the awesomeness that it was toted to be.. aospcmod (which is android 2.3) is incredibly stable, and there are ways to make the phone look like sense, but in all honesty i dont believe that sense was ever meant to run efficiently (its too fat) on the hero, and they have come out with newer versions of sense that would be better suited for the hero but we cant get them.. like ranger said there is a 2.2 version of sense out there, but pretty sure it isnt that stable.. and the other sense products are just stock, but are "optimized" (meaning they just took some crap out)..
thanks for the response guys. I'll revisit the AOSP roms and see what I can do.
Anyone still releasing a stock looking 2.2.x with all the new tweaks, etc?
Still on project V, just wondering.
there is gingerzen with froyo and bi-winning...
I think they pushed froyo, 2.2 at least, to its full capabilities..
yea froyo was developed to the extreme.
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