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Magician with two SD cards...

Hello,
After a little research, i found in sdcard.org (http://www.sdcard.org/sdio/index.html) a simplified version of SDIO card specification (http://www.sdcard.org/sdio/Simplified SDIO Card Specification.pdf). In page 7 we can see the SD Host conecting two sd cards.
It is possible to internally connecting a SD wifi card and, at same time, using the original magician SD interface card with 1GB SD card?
It seems very easy to solder something to the sd internal interface card as we can see in the second part of this picture:
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It would be so nice...
:lol:

anyone knows if it is possible to do this...?

I had wondered the same thing when I read some of the spec. I seem to remember thinking you could hook up several memory cards together. I've never tried though.
Maybe you could cut up an old 16MB card, solder some wire to it and put it in your Magician. Then solder the other end of the wires to two slots and give it a try? That way you don't have to solder anything into your phone.

/me wishes he had enough money to throw away that he could a) tear open my Magician (O2 XDA II mini) and b) spend time tinkering with the bits to come up with a solution, but probably end up destroying my device...

Magician with two SD cards... not really
Hi..
It'd be a nice thing to have, but it's impossible (very hard to accomplish, actually).
SD/SDIO bus is designed to host only one device. It's not multi-host interface.
Therefore, You can't just 'connect' two cards to it.
The only way that two(or more)-function card works is that they're integrated in one.
Such card responds differently than lone Wifi or lone SDMEM card. It accept both SDIO and SDMEM requests.
Bonding two cards would result in electrical conflicts.
There is a 'way' to do it. But it requires a lot of effort, and the effect isn't very cute.
If You take a microcontroller and program it to 'play' a combo card on the palmtop's side and route requests to two (or more) SD and SDIO cards, You'd have it
The problem is that such homebrewed appliance would be size of a quarter of your palmtop and You'd have to be quite a programmer to program it well.
Think about switching to BlueAngel. It's cute and have everything integrated (well... without GPS), so You can use SD for memory only.

How about getting a 256mb/wifi combo card, then resoldering a 1Gb memory chip inplace of the 256mb?

defroster said:
How about getting a 256mb/wifi combo card, then resoldering a 1Gb memory chip inplace of the 256mb?
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Hey! That's an idea!

Card reader for hermes

Hi,
This may or may not exist, I have had a quick google, but couldn't find anything.
I was wandering if I was the only person who would like a memory card reader for my hermes.
You know so I can plug it in to the mini usb port and then read my cameras memory card so I can send photos taken on my digital camera to my friends ( by email )
Does such a thing exist ?
Cheers
Dave

When I bought a micro sd card for mine (8525) I'm assuming that's the same phone - it came with a sd card size reader that you can slide the micro sd card into to read data off it. I also saw at Office Depot, a thumb-drive like device that holds micro sd cards. It was just 9.99. I didn't buy it but it looked like it would be just the thing.
Leigh Ann

lookup wm5torage and see if its something that will help

http://www.mobymemory.com/products/MobyMemory/USB2-microSD-Card-Reader-Pen-Drive.asp?cat=15
have a look at the link - £4.99, I got mine free with a 1gb micro SD

dmj1973 said:
Hi,
This may or may not exist, I have had a quick google, but couldn't find anything.
I was wandering if I was the only person who would like a memory card reader for my hermes.
You know so I can plug it in to the mini usb port and then read my cameras memory card so I can send photos taken on my digital camera to my friends ( by email )
Does such a thing exist ?
Cheers
Dave
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Did you mean you wanna use your hermes as a digital storage?
Good idea tho, however I'm not sure if it possible.
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dmj1973 said:
Hi,
This may or may not exist, I have had a quick google, but couldn't find anything.
I was wandering if I was the only person who would like a memory card reader for my hermes.
You know so I can plug it in to the mini usb port and then read my cameras memory card so I can send photos taken on my digital camera to my friends ( by email )
Does such a thing exist ?
Cheers
Dave
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I think he means to get a card reader to plug INTO his Hermes mini usb port so he can read the the card and send the pictures through the Hermes away from a computer, no?
The card readers suggested above plug into a regular usb port. Even if there was such a thing as above, you'd have to get a reader program for the Hermes., I think.
Easier to have a camera that uses sd memory, get a microsd w/ a sd adapter, take pictures, then put the micro in the Hermes, then send away!
Alternates? WIFI (or bluetooth) camera? I don't know new camera stuff too well.
But... it WOULD be neat to do what dmj1973 wanted.

Whatledog has understood it the way i have. As far as i know none of the phones have a usb host function yet so card reader plugged into hermes would not work.
With regards to bluetooth and things on cameras i am sure there are some out there. I remember years ago i had a really tiny sony video camera that had bluetooth in, was the smallest video camera i have ever used.It took the micro mv tapes i think. You could send emails and things from the camera using the internet on your phone across bluetooth. Even had a web browser on the camera.
Ahhhh, those were the days.
oh but the old micro sd with adapter and leave the adapter in the camera trick would be the easiest.

Thanks for the replys guys.
Whattledog did get what I was after correctly.
I was suggesting taking a multi-card reader, say 52in1, that reads XD, duo pro etc etc etc plug it into the minusb port on my Hermes / other wm5 devices also and then being able to use the card like I would my microsd. That way it wouldn't matter which card format the camera used I would be able to copy the pictures to the phone and then email them !
I think it is a neat idea. I guess wm5/wm6 would need to have some code development done and the hardware produced but as if it could read "any" card i think it would be a seller ! Someone could probably even sell it as a bundle deal maybe !???!
Just my thoughts anyhow.
Thanks for reading and replying and a big thansk to all those flamers out there who didn't flame me for asking a "silly" question.

dmj1973 said:
Thanks for the replys guys.
Whattledog did get what I was after correctly.
I was suggesting taking a multi-card reader, say 52in1, that reads XD, duo pro etc etc etc plug it into the minusb port on my Hermes / other wm5 devices also and then being able to use the card like I would my microsd. That way it wouldn't matter which card format the camera used I would be able to copy the pictures to the phone and then email them !
I think it is a neat idea. I guess wm5/wm6 would need to have some code development done and the hardware produced but as if it could read "any" card i think it would be a seller ! Someone could probably even sell it as a bundle deal maybe !???!
Just my thoughts anyhow.
Thanks for reading and replying and a big thansk to all those flamers out there who didn't flame me for asking a "silly" question.
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What you are looking for is USB host with mass storage.
WM5 and WM6 have provisions for this in the operating system but the TyTN has none of the hardware to do this. :-(
Very few Pocket PC's or phones have the ability to do host... off the top of my head the HTC Universal (JASJAR), Toshiba 800 series and the new G900, Fujitsu-Siemens models are units with USB host.

Oh thats a shame. Never mind.
Guess thats an idea for someone for the future. Maybe they could add this to the kaiser before release !! That would be nice.
How cool would it be to be able to do this !??!

dmj1973 said:
Oh thats a shame. Never mind.
Guess thats an idea for someone for the future. Maybe they could add this to the kaiser before release !! That would be nice.
How cool would it be to be able to do this !??!
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It's very cool with some caveats... anything that draws too much power needs to get it from outside the USB bus. For an external hard drive you'll need an external power supply too. USB keys and memory card readers should be ok though. USB host of this type is usually USB 1.0 or 1.1 which makes it a little slow for streaming media. You can also use USB mice and keyboards though you might need drivers.
I used to do this with my Toshiba e800 two years ago and I miss it.

Athena HDD - HITACHI 8Gb MICRODRIVE, Zif Connector - Not Compatible with CF Card

HITACHI 8GB MICRODRIVE 35(36 ?) PIN - ZIF connector / PATA interface, 40 x 30 x 5 mm.
Compact Flash have 50 pin interface, 43×36×3.3 mm.
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(Citation from WIKIPEDIA) - Main article: Microdrive
Microdrives are tiny hard disks—about 25 mm (1 inch) wide—packaged with a CompactFlash Type II form factor and interface. They were developed and released in 1999 by IBM in a 170 megabyte capacity. IBM then sold its disk drive division, including the Microdrive trademark, to Hitachi in December 2002. There are now other brands of Microdrives (such as Seagate, Sony, etc), and, over the years, these have become available in increasing capacities (up to 8 GiB as of late 2008).
While these drives fit into and work in any CF II slot, they draw more current (500 mA maximum) than flash memory (100 mA maximum) and so may not work in some low-power devices (for example, NEC HPCs). As they are mechanical devices, Microdrives are more susceptible to damage from physical shock or temperature changes than flash memory. However, Microdrives are not subject to the write cycle limitation inherent to flash memory.
The once popular iPod mini, Nokia N91, iriver H10 (5 or 6GB model), PalmOne LifeDrive and Rio Carbon all used a CF Microdrive to store data.
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HITACHI 8GB MICRODRIVE
Manufacturer: Hitachi
Models: 0A40701, HMS361008M5CE00
Specifications
Configuration
Interface: ZIF connector PATA interface
Capacity (GB): 8
Sector size (bytes): 512
Disks: 1
Areal density (Gbits/sq.inch, max): 119
Performance
Data buffer (KB): 128
Rotational speed (RPM): 3600
Latency average (ms): 8.33
Media transfer rate (Mbits/sec): 68 131
Interface transfer rate (MB/sec, max): 33 Ultra DMA mode-2
Sustained data rate (MB/sec): 5.1 - 10.0
Seek time (read, typical)
Average (ms): 12
Track to track (ms): 1
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Reliability
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Load/unload cycles: 300,000
Power
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Current (read/write): 190mA
Current (peak): 310mA
Physical Size
Height (mm): 5 / 0.1
Width (mm): 40 / 0.2
Depth (mm): 30 / + 0.0 / - 0.4
Weight (g, typical): 13
Environmental Characteristics
Operating
Temperature: 5 to 60 Degrees C
Shock (half sine wave): 400 G (2 ms)
Random Vibration (RMS): 0.67 G (5 to 500 Hz)
Altitude: -300 to 3048m
Acoustics (Bels, Idle (Typical)): 1.8
Non-operating
Ambient temperature: -40 to 70 Degrees C
Shock (half sine wave): 2000 G (1 ms)
Random Vibration (RMS): 3.01 G (5 to 500 Hz)
RoHS Compliant: Yes

Manual about microdrive from site: Hitachi.com
What is Compact Flash?
Compact Flash (CF) is a standard for a small form factor device that encompasses CF flash data storage cards including magnetic disk cards, such as the Hitachi Microdrive. The CF card provides high capacity storage and I/O functions that electrically comply with the PCMCIA standard. While only the size of a matchbook, CF cards can be used to store a large amount of data.
Are CF and CF+ the same or are they different?
While the standards are similar, they do have several differences. First, the CF+ standard supports I/O mode and non-Flash storage (true IDE mode). Additionally, the CF+ standard calls for power levels up to 500ma for both 3.3vdc and 5.0vdc power sources.
For more information on the Compact Flash specification, please visit the following URL: http://www.compactflash.org/
If I format a Hitachi Global Storage Technologies Microdrive using my PC, can I still use the Microdrive with my digital camera?
For best results, we recommend that you format the Hitachi Microdrive using the device that you will be using the most. Most devices will format the Microdrive using that FAT16 file system. 4GB and higher Microdrives require the FAT32 file system to be able to use the full capacity of the drive. Some digital cameras are not able to support FAT32. Check with the device manufacturer for any firmware updates that may be available.
Are drivers required when using the Hitachi Microdrive in Windows, 95, Windows 98, or Windows ME?
To use a Microdrive with Windows 95, Windows 98, or Windows ME device drivers may be required. The device drivers and installation instructions can be found at the following URL: http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/mddwnld.htm
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I am having problems getting my Hitachi Microdrive to work in my digital camera or hand-held device. What can I do?
First, check with your system manufacturer to verify compatibility between the Hitachi Microdrive and your camera or hand-held device.
If your device has been tested compatible by the device manufacturer, verify that it is operating properly by checking the following items:
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* Does the drive work in any other devices/systems?
* Does your camera or hand-held device work with a CF memory card?
* Where you able to format (initialize) the Microdrive?
* Was there a possible cause for error, such as using the Microdrive above or below the operating temperatures of 5 to 55 degrees Celsius? Has the Microdrive suffered an impact or mishandling? Has the Microdrive been subjected to high humidity or static electricity?
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The factory format of a 2GB or smaller Hitachi Microdrive is FAT16 while the factory format of a 4GB or larger Microdrive is FAT32.
If you are formatting the Hitachi Microdrive in Microsoft Windows (the recommended platform), you can right click on the drive icon and choose Format. If you are formatting the Microdrive in the Mac Operating System, you can use the Disk Utility program. For formatting instructions for your camera, handheld system, or PDA, please see the device’s documentation.
Are there any limitations as to how many times data can be written to a Hitachi Microdrive?
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Can the Hitachi Microdrive be used to copy data from a PC?
If you are using a card reader that is compatible with the Hitachi Microdrive it is possible to copy data from the PC to the Microdrive. In case of a notebook PC it is possible by way of the PC Card slot. In this case, a PC Card adapter which corresponds to CF+ Type II is necessary.
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Will the X-ray machine at airport baggage inspection stations damage my Hitachi Microdrive?
X-Ray machines at the airport will not have a direct effect on a Hitachi Microdrive.
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We highly recommend using the carrying case when transporting the Hitachi Microdrive. The case provides protection from impact and static electricity.
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The sound that is heard when you shake a Hitachi Microdrive comes from the headlock mechanism. However, shaking a Microdrive can lead to damage and or failure of the device. Please do not shake it.
Is it possible to get the Hitachi Microdrive repaired if it is damaged or does not work?
If the drive is still in warranty and the conditions of the warranty are met, the warranty stipulation of replacing the drive will be satisfied. There are currently no companies we are aware of that have the proper machinery to physically repair a Hitachi Microdrive.
Will static electricity damage the drive?
Yes, static electricity can and will cause damage to the Hitachi Microdrive. Be sure to follow precautions when handling the Microdrive and when the drive is not in use, store it in the carrying case.
Can the PC Card Adapter which is used with the 340MB, 512MB and 1GB Hitachi Microdrive also be used with the 2GB, 4GB, or 6GB Microdrives?
Yes, because the PC Card adapter conforms to CF+ Type II standards regardless of the capacity.
Can a PC Card adapter, other than a HITACHI made adapter, be used with the Hitachi Microdrive?
You can use a PC Card adapter, provided that the PC Card adapter conforms to the CF Type II standard. Please check with the PC Card adapter manufacturer to verify compatibility.
I accidentally formatted my 4GB or higher Hitachi Microdrive in my camera and now it is only being detected as 2GB. How do I get my drive back to the full capacity?
If for any reason your drive is no longer being seen at the correct capacity, you have two options:
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2. 2. Connect your drive (via card reader) to a Windows 98 system and run Fdisk on the drive. You will need to delete the current partition and then recreate a partition using the entire capacity of the drive. After you created the new partition, you can then format the drive and begin using the drive again.
Why will my Hitachi Microdrive work in my PC, but not in my camera or PDA?
Most likely, the drive is a white label (True IDE) version of the Hitachi Microdrive instead of the blue label (CFII+) Microdrive. The majority of white label Microdrives were intended for use as embedded storage in specific systems and may or may not function correctly in another environment.
Shown: White Label Microdrive Shown: Blue Label Microdrive
After using my Hitachi Microdrive to take pictures, I connected the drive to my computer to download the pictures but am being asked to format the drive. How do I get my pictures?
Somehow, the information on the drive became corrupt. This can occur any numbers of ways ranging from software being written incorrectly to a physical problem with the Hitachi Microdrive. If the drive is still being detected by the system, you may still be able to recover the data from the drive. You would need to use a data recovery program designed to recover data from inaccessible devices. Below is a link to a Google search on data recovery software.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=lang_en&safe=off&q=data+recovery+software
My Hitachi Microdrive is not detected properly or is not working correctly in my digital camera. Is the drive bad?
Before replacing the Hitachi Microdrive, we recommend visiting the camera manufacturer’s website to obtain the latest firmware for your camera. Many times, a firmware update is able to resolve compatibility issues or certain conflicts that may cause the Microdrive to appear defective.
Can I install the Hitachi Microdrive even though my system is not the compatibility list?
While we make every effort to test the compatibility of the Hitachi Microdrive with a wide variety of systems, it is not possible for us to include all makes and models. This does not mean that the Microdrive will be incompatible with your system. If your system is not listed, it could just mean we have not been able to test that configuration. If your system is not listed in the compatibility list, try contacting the device manufacturer to see if they have performed any compatibility testing with the Microdrive.

hi, i cant access my Microdrive (8GB Hitachi) from my Dopod U1000, i tried to do format microdrive from Start>programme>format/recover microdrive, but it didn't worked. so what to do know? or where can i buy same 8GBHitachi Microdrive in India in Maharashtra? Is it ok if i replace it by 16 or 32GB Microdrive? will it work?
Plz reply me on
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Is there someone who found an adapter for the 35-pin proprietary ATA connector of this drive?
Iade

USB Mass Storage Mode (Yah !!)

According to Phone Arena the external MicroSD card will support Mass Storage Mode.
That was so annoying to lose that on the HTC One.
I wonder what the fastest MicroSD card is that it will be compatible with.
P.S. I can't vouch for phonearena being correct on this.

mswlogo said:
I wonder what the fastest MicroSD card is that it will be compatible with.
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http://www.sandisk.com/products/memory-cards/microsd/extremepro-uhs-i/?capacity=16GB
But the Extreme Plus has more capacity and similar speed.
http://www.sandisk.com/products/memory-cards/microsd/extremeplus-uhs-i/?capacity=64GB

mswlogo said:
According to Phone Arena the external MicroSD card will support Mass Storage Mode.
That was so annoying to lose that on the HTC One.
I wonder what the fastest MicroSD card is that it will be compatible with.
P.S. I can't vouch for phonearena being correct on this.
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BenPope said:
http://www.sandisk.com/products/memory-cards/microsd/extremepro-uhs-i/?capacity=16GB
But the Extreme Plus has more capacity and similar speed.
http://www.sandisk.com/products/memory-cards/microsd/extremeplus-uhs-i/?capacity=64GB
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Whats the actual point of having 100MB/s SD card when phone still has USB 2.0 which will give u like 40 maybe 50MB/s max?
Probable phones interface also cant take advantage of such high speed SD cards
Unless you plug it to another high speed USB3.0 reader or device to read, dont see much point.

ivicask said:
Whats the actual point of having 100MB/s SD card when phone still has USB 2.0 which will give u like 40 maybe 50MB/s max?
Probable phones interface also cant take advantage of such high speed SD cards
Unless you plug it to another high speed USB3.0 reader or device to read, dont see much point.
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I agree, when I saw USB 2.0 I ordered a 64GB 45/MBs card for $38.00
It's a shame it's not USB 3.0 these days.

HTC One M8 does not support USB Mass Storage (UMS)
mswlogo said:
According to Phone Arena the external MicroSD card will support Mass Storage Mode.
That was so annoying to lose that on the HTC One.
I wonder what the fastest MicroSD card is that it will be compatible with.
P.S. I can't vouch for phonearena being correct on this.
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Well it turns out they are not correct HTC One M8 does not support UMS it connects only using MTP.
They possibly meant that it does connect to USB Mass Storage devices using USB OTG.
If anyone has a way to mount HTC One M8 sdcard from PC as UMS without rooting or custom firmware please do tell.
Is there any other Android 4.4 device that does that out of the box?

Slions said:
Well it turns out they are not correct HTC One M8 does not support UMS it connects only using MTP.
They possibly meant that it does connect to USB Mass Storage devices using USB OTG.
If anyone has a way to mount HTC One M8 sdcard from PC as UMS without rooting or custom firmware please do tell.
Is there any other Android 4.4 device that does that out of the box?
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My Xperia Z1 does it, but that's about it afaik.
The One (M8)'s SD card can likely be exported over USB, but it needs root.

Can you not develop an app that does it without root? Surely their are ways to have htc sign such an app?

Could anyone with a Z2 tell us if does UMS out of the box?

Slions said:
Could anyone with a Z2 tell us if does UMS out of the box?
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Go ask in the Z2 forum, not the HTC One M8 forum.

ivicask said:
Whats the actual point of having 100MB/s SD card when phone still has USB 2.0 which will give u like 40 maybe 50MB/s max?
Probable phones interface also cant take advantage of such high speed SD cards
Unless you plug it to another high speed USB3.0 reader or device to read, dont see much point.
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I have an Asus SabertootX58 with usb 3.0, when I plug it in either usb 2.0 or usb 3.0 port, i got this notification and asking for MTP drivers.
I know that the M8 has usb2.0 only but this is weird.
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deadpunk said:
I have an Asus SabertootX58 with usb 3.0, when I plug it in either usb 2.0 or usb 3.0 port, i got this notification and asking for MTP drivers.
I know that the M8 has usb2.0 only but this is weird.
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MTP has nothing directly to do with USB 3.0 or 2.0. If it asks you for drivers than your running something other than windows 7 or 8, or you have messed-up windows, because it shouldn't ask for MTP drivers.
I have sabertooth z77 and pluging in any port never asked for any drivers, except of course for ADB and device drivers for debugging.

MohammadAG said:
My Xperia Z1 does it, but that's about it afaik.
The One (M8)'s SD card can likely be exported over USB, but it needs root.
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If you do find a way to do this, please share in this thread. MTP sucks when it comes to editing data using computer.
Its the sole software negative I have for the phone on my end.

I sent a complain to HTC support about that. You guys should do the same, if they have a lot of those maybe they would put that feature back or at least enabled third parties to offer it.
Even my Garmin Forerunner 220 does UMS, ok it's only 5MB but still

mswlogo said:
I agree, when I saw USB 2.0 I ordered a 64GB 45/MBs card for $38.00
It's a shame it's not USB 3.0 these days.
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this I don't understand ....because my pc says its usb3.0 and to plug it it to superspeed usb3.0 port to take advantage. Personally I think the reviews are wrong and its usb 3.0 ...the pc wouldn't ask you to swap ports if it wasn't.

The micro-USB connector has a different shape, as it needs additional pins. So no, it's not USB 3.0. I think this is exactly the reason this was left out.

So mass storage is just you being able to move files from and to your phone from and to your PC via USB, right? If so It works fine for me. I just plug it into my computer. It shows up as a media device but that doesn't stop me from moving stuff to and from the phone to my computer
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eikast said:
So mass storage is just you being able to move files from and to your phone from and to your PC via USB, right? If so It works fine for me. I just plug it into my computer. It shows up as a media device but that doesn't stop me from moving stuff to and from the phone to my computer
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No UMS means it's mounted like any other drive on your system. It has a drive letter and you can edit files in place.
MTP is what you just described.

Slions said:
No UMS means it's mounted like any other drive on your system. It has a drive letter and you can edit files in place.
MTP is what you just described.
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Mtp or no I still get 2 seperate drives. One for INTERNAL storage and one for SD CARD and can delete copy transfer files between both no problem.

But you can't edit the files directly on the sd like you could if it were a usb stick,or an sd card in a card reader. It's not mounting as a real usb device
XDA app on m8 running venom

Ashyx, you're seeing mtp and not ums.
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Expandable Removable Storage On The Note 5

The number one complaint of the Note 5 is the fact that their is no way to add storage since there is no micro sdcard slot. The good news is that the Note 5 has OTC capabilities built in without having to root the device. Just grab an OTG usb 3.0 flashdrive and plug it into the micro usb slot to add storage to your device. This isn't the best option ever, but is pretty convenient.
Is this a good enough option for you or will you be returning your Note 5 for a device with a micro sdcard slot?

owenbeals said:
The number one complaint of the Note 5 is the fact that their is no way to add storage since there is no micro sdcard slot. The good news is that the Note 5 has OTC capabilities built in without having to root the device. Just grab an OTG usb 3.0 flashdrive and plug it into the micro usb slot to add storage to your device. This isn't the best option ever, but is pretty convenient.
Is this a good enough option for you or will you be returning your Note 5 for a device with a micro sdcard slot?
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I discoverred this when I bought my S6 - and it does work very well. Not the same as an EXT SD, but not bad at all.

Could I cache music to this via Google music and listen to it
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i tough that with dual sim in china can support of sd card ? one of the sim can either be sim or sd, can someone confirm it ?

nikes60 said:
i tough that with dual sim in china can support of sd card ? one of the sim can either be sim or sd, can someone confirm it ?
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it's been confirmed a while back. here's my N5 duos from Taiwan...
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"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
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it does not allow any microSD card. what you saw online was most likely the A8.
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owenbeals said:
The number one complaint of the Note 5 is the fact that their is no way to add storage since there is no micro sdcard slot. The good news is that the Note 5 has OTC capabilities built in without having to root the device. Just grab an OTG usb 3.0 flashdrive and plug it into the micro usb slot to add storage to your device. This isn't the best option ever, but is pretty convenient.
Is this a good enough option for you or will you be returning your Note 5 for a device with a micro sdcard slot?
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Well, there's not much sense in grabbing a usb 3.0 as you 're plugging it into usb 2.0 slot of note 5 - the transfer rate will be capped with slow usb 2.0 speed limitation... which will be still fine for consuming content.
plugging something into already huge note will make it even more bulky. Imagine if you're on a public transit and your note is in your pocket. Will it even fit there with anything plugged into the usb slot??
And perhaps most important thing - a device connected into a usb slot, will constantly consume battery (unlike the internal microsd card).
in my opinion, it cannot be "good enough".