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Magician with two SD cards...

Hello,
After a little research, i found in sdcard.org (http://www.sdcard.org/sdio/index.html) a simplified version of SDIO card specification (http://www.sdcard.org/sdio/Simplified SDIO Card Specification.pdf). In page 7 we can see the SD Host conecting two sd cards.
It is possible to internally connecting a SD wifi card and, at same time, using the original magician SD interface card with 1GB SD card?
It seems very easy to solder something to the sd internal interface card as we can see in the second part of this picture:
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It would be so nice...
:lol:

anyone knows if it is possible to do this...?

I had wondered the same thing when I read some of the spec. I seem to remember thinking you could hook up several memory cards together. I've never tried though.
Maybe you could cut up an old 16MB card, solder some wire to it and put it in your Magician. Then solder the other end of the wires to two slots and give it a try? That way you don't have to solder anything into your phone.

/me wishes he had enough money to throw away that he could a) tear open my Magician (O2 XDA II mini) and b) spend time tinkering with the bits to come up with a solution, but probably end up destroying my device...

Magician with two SD cards... not really
Hi..
It'd be a nice thing to have, but it's impossible (very hard to accomplish, actually).
SD/SDIO bus is designed to host only one device. It's not multi-host interface.
Therefore, You can't just 'connect' two cards to it.
The only way that two(or more)-function card works is that they're integrated in one.
Such card responds differently than lone Wifi or lone SDMEM card. It accept both SDIO and SDMEM requests.
Bonding two cards would result in electrical conflicts.
There is a 'way' to do it. But it requires a lot of effort, and the effect isn't very cute.
If You take a microcontroller and program it to 'play' a combo card on the palmtop's side and route requests to two (or more) SD and SDIO cards, You'd have it
The problem is that such homebrewed appliance would be size of a quarter of your palmtop and You'd have to be quite a programmer to program it well.
Think about switching to BlueAngel. It's cute and have everything integrated (well... without GPS), so You can use SD for memory only.

How about getting a 256mb/wifi combo card, then resoldering a 1Gb memory chip inplace of the 256mb?

defroster said:
How about getting a 256mb/wifi combo card, then resoldering a 1Gb memory chip inplace of the 256mb?
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Hey! That's an idea!

usb thumb drive instead of PC?

I tried searching to see if this has already been discussed, but like all vBulletin forums, the search function rejected USB and Pen (as in pen drive) and a few other essential but three-letter words. So I found zero.
I have a 4 GB USB U3 thumb drive that I always carry with me--until I lose it, that is. I would like to load it up activesync (or not--whatever works) and a whole bunch of files I want to install on my HTC Touch Pro (AT&T Fuze). I have a short cable with a male mini USB connector at one end and a female regular-sized USB connector on the other (so I can slip the male USB thumb drive connector into the cable and thence connect it to my TouchPro).
I'm not sure whether this will work, but it seems like it should. This way, I can carry with me all of my files-to-be-installed and work on customizing my fuze anytime, anywhere. I don't want to store the installation files on my micro SD card because that wee thing holds soooo very little. (i have a 32 GB F card and a 32 GB SD card in my iP 211.)
For starters, I can't even figure out how to install Windows Mobile Device Center on the thumb drive--the process keeps wanting to mess with the AS/Winmobile Device Center already istalled (and used for another WM device).
Maybe there's a way to do with without AS or the Device Center. That's fine with me. All I care about is having access to the many, many apps I have waiting on the flash drive.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Sandra

Im no expert, but I dont think many devices have the capability for being hosts, meaning they cant have external memory devices attach except through the supplied card slot.
There are a couple out there which can handle it, but they normally come with a usb port built in. Otherwise I doubt its possible. I dont think its one of those things which can be programmed. Of course, I could be entirely wrong about it.
Edit: Ok, im completely wrong about it. I just found a web page through google saying that many devices with wm on dating back to Pocket PC 2002 do in fact have the ability to do it.
My bad. lol
http://www.mypdacafe.com/articles.php?id=219

See this threads for discussion on Touch Pro's USB host possibilities:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411905
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411905&highlight=usb+host

sfrrr said:
I don't want to store the installation files on my micro SD card because that wee thing holds soooo very little.
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What size do you have? They are currently available up to 16 gig, and 32 is coming. I keep all my cabs on my Sandisk 16. As for USB host, see the post above with the link to the thread. The chipset does not appear to support it. BTW, if you do a search on "USB host", you will find the thread.

I'm about to follow those links you guys recommended, but I wanted to say a quick thanks to you all. I didn't know anything about USB hosting, etc, and it's a whole lot easier to think anything is possible if you don't know anything than if you are well-educated. (OTOH, I suppose that that knowing might also inhibit experimenting which means you don't pursue new ideas. Hence the box we have to think outside of.)
Thanks again,
Sandra

I'd recommend a Trio adapter: Trio is not a brand name, just a mechanical name they have given this adapter. I had one made by A-Data and its awesome.
The adapter itself is an SD card that accepts a MicroSD on the side. However, the neat part is the fact that you can remove a piece and voila! you have a USB stick.
http://memoryworld.com/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=14&products_id=386 is the first hit from google. I bought mine from Newegg way back in the day. Sadly it was ran over when my phone was. The MicroSD card was good, but the adapter died. I am saving up to get the new SDHC version and a 16GB MicroSD card.
BE ADVISED: there are similar products out there called DUAL adapters: the memory is non removable in those. What that means is that there is no MicroSD card that comes out.
Enjoy!

HDMI out via microUSB

http://phandroid.com/2010/07/28/samsung-galaxy-s-will-be-able-to-do-microusb-to-hdmi-for-video-out/
Hmm... is this hardware or software I wonder. And is the hardware in the cable or in the phone...

It's hardware, hardware that's not included in the Nexus.

how about this one ?
HD 1080p Movie Stick 4gb with Remote - USB to HDTV Converter with HDMI Output - 4gb Internal Memory - Micro SD Card Slot
http://www.amazon.com/HD-1080p-Movi...?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1280089963&sr=8-31
Product Description
HD Movie Stick is a really cool device. The size of a USB drive, it connects via HDMI to your TV and can play 1080p content flawlessly. Here's how it works: one end of the stick connects to your computer via USB - you transfer video, music, and photos to the device's 4gb internal storage (or up to 32GB Micro SD memory). The other end of the stick is the mini HDMI connector to display the content on your TV, with an included remote to navigate it all. The movie stick can also be plugged into the USB port of an external HDD and play directly to your TV.
This means NO DRIVERS ???
Specs:
Supported Video Formats: AVI, MPG, WMV, RM, RMVB, MKV, DAT, TS, VOB(1080p)
Supported Music Formats: MP3, WMA, FLAC, OGG
Supported Photo Format: JPG, BMP, PNG
Operating system: Windows XP, Vista, Windows 7
Internal Memory: 4gb
External memory: Micro SD slot supports up to 32gb.
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+ a microUSB to USB adapter, of course !
Interesting ...

You really need to learn about hardware, USB plug != video output.
That thing just read the memory card, which you could do from any dumb phone.

evilkorn said:
You really need to learn about hardware, USB plug != video output.
That thing just read the memory card, which you could do from any dumb phone.
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I'm bringing this , because from what I read advertised > the Hardware for video is @ the stick - HDMI output - at least this is what I understood ...
For that price $99 maybe the video de-coders are inside that stick, Dunno ...
Its says again : The movie stick can also be plugged into the USB port of an external HDD (replace this with the Nexus) and play directly to your TV.
This obviously doesn't involve any kind of drivers , I thinks it's the same as if you mount your Nexus in a car audio with USB , it will be recongnized as a flash usb memory ..
That's the point ... and yes , maybe I'm totally wrong ! and missunderstanding ...

That is the point, but the point of the OP is to NOT have any additional hardware and let the phone do the work. Like I said, it just read the nexus' mSD card as a mass storage device.

And...?
Did it end up working? that kit from amazon with the USB to HDMI?

I'd like to know too please!

USB Mass Storage Mode (Yah !!)

According to Phone Arena the external MicroSD card will support Mass Storage Mode.
That was so annoying to lose that on the HTC One.
I wonder what the fastest MicroSD card is that it will be compatible with.
P.S. I can't vouch for phonearena being correct on this.

mswlogo said:
I wonder what the fastest MicroSD card is that it will be compatible with.
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http://www.sandisk.com/products/memory-cards/microsd/extremepro-uhs-i/?capacity=16GB
But the Extreme Plus has more capacity and similar speed.
http://www.sandisk.com/products/memory-cards/microsd/extremeplus-uhs-i/?capacity=64GB

mswlogo said:
According to Phone Arena the external MicroSD card will support Mass Storage Mode.
That was so annoying to lose that on the HTC One.
I wonder what the fastest MicroSD card is that it will be compatible with.
P.S. I can't vouch for phonearena being correct on this.
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BenPope said:
http://www.sandisk.com/products/memory-cards/microsd/extremepro-uhs-i/?capacity=16GB
But the Extreme Plus has more capacity and similar speed.
http://www.sandisk.com/products/memory-cards/microsd/extremeplus-uhs-i/?capacity=64GB
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Whats the actual point of having 100MB/s SD card when phone still has USB 2.0 which will give u like 40 maybe 50MB/s max?
Probable phones interface also cant take advantage of such high speed SD cards
Unless you plug it to another high speed USB3.0 reader or device to read, dont see much point.

ivicask said:
Whats the actual point of having 100MB/s SD card when phone still has USB 2.0 which will give u like 40 maybe 50MB/s max?
Probable phones interface also cant take advantage of such high speed SD cards
Unless you plug it to another high speed USB3.0 reader or device to read, dont see much point.
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I agree, when I saw USB 2.0 I ordered a 64GB 45/MBs card for $38.00
It's a shame it's not USB 3.0 these days.

HTC One M8 does not support USB Mass Storage (UMS)
mswlogo said:
According to Phone Arena the external MicroSD card will support Mass Storage Mode.
That was so annoying to lose that on the HTC One.
I wonder what the fastest MicroSD card is that it will be compatible with.
P.S. I can't vouch for phonearena being correct on this.
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Well it turns out they are not correct HTC One M8 does not support UMS it connects only using MTP.
They possibly meant that it does connect to USB Mass Storage devices using USB OTG.
If anyone has a way to mount HTC One M8 sdcard from PC as UMS without rooting or custom firmware please do tell.
Is there any other Android 4.4 device that does that out of the box?

Slions said:
Well it turns out they are not correct HTC One M8 does not support UMS it connects only using MTP.
They possibly meant that it does connect to USB Mass Storage devices using USB OTG.
If anyone has a way to mount HTC One M8 sdcard from PC as UMS without rooting or custom firmware please do tell.
Is there any other Android 4.4 device that does that out of the box?
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My Xperia Z1 does it, but that's about it afaik.
The One (M8)'s SD card can likely be exported over USB, but it needs root.

Can you not develop an app that does it without root? Surely their are ways to have htc sign such an app?

Could anyone with a Z2 tell us if does UMS out of the box?

Slions said:
Could anyone with a Z2 tell us if does UMS out of the box?
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Go ask in the Z2 forum, not the HTC One M8 forum.

ivicask said:
Whats the actual point of having 100MB/s SD card when phone still has USB 2.0 which will give u like 40 maybe 50MB/s max?
Probable phones interface also cant take advantage of such high speed SD cards
Unless you plug it to another high speed USB3.0 reader or device to read, dont see much point.
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I have an Asus SabertootX58 with usb 3.0, when I plug it in either usb 2.0 or usb 3.0 port, i got this notification and asking for MTP drivers.
I know that the M8 has usb2.0 only but this is weird.
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deadpunk said:
I have an Asus SabertootX58 with usb 3.0, when I plug it in either usb 2.0 or usb 3.0 port, i got this notification and asking for MTP drivers.
I know that the M8 has usb2.0 only but this is weird.
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MTP has nothing directly to do with USB 3.0 or 2.0. If it asks you for drivers than your running something other than windows 7 or 8, or you have messed-up windows, because it shouldn't ask for MTP drivers.
I have sabertooth z77 and pluging in any port never asked for any drivers, except of course for ADB and device drivers for debugging.

MohammadAG said:
My Xperia Z1 does it, but that's about it afaik.
The One (M8)'s SD card can likely be exported over USB, but it needs root.
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If you do find a way to do this, please share in this thread. MTP sucks when it comes to editing data using computer.
Its the sole software negative I have for the phone on my end.

I sent a complain to HTC support about that. You guys should do the same, if they have a lot of those maybe they would put that feature back or at least enabled third parties to offer it.
Even my Garmin Forerunner 220 does UMS, ok it's only 5MB but still

mswlogo said:
I agree, when I saw USB 2.0 I ordered a 64GB 45/MBs card for $38.00
It's a shame it's not USB 3.0 these days.
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this I don't understand ....because my pc says its usb3.0 and to plug it it to superspeed usb3.0 port to take advantage. Personally I think the reviews are wrong and its usb 3.0 ...the pc wouldn't ask you to swap ports if it wasn't.

The micro-USB connector has a different shape, as it needs additional pins. So no, it's not USB 3.0. I think this is exactly the reason this was left out.

So mass storage is just you being able to move files from and to your phone from and to your PC via USB, right? If so It works fine for me. I just plug it into my computer. It shows up as a media device but that doesn't stop me from moving stuff to and from the phone to my computer
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eikast said:
So mass storage is just you being able to move files from and to your phone from and to your PC via USB, right? If so It works fine for me. I just plug it into my computer. It shows up as a media device but that doesn't stop me from moving stuff to and from the phone to my computer
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No UMS means it's mounted like any other drive on your system. It has a drive letter and you can edit files in place.
MTP is what you just described.

Slions said:
No UMS means it's mounted like any other drive on your system. It has a drive letter and you can edit files in place.
MTP is what you just described.
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Mtp or no I still get 2 seperate drives. One for INTERNAL storage and one for SD CARD and can delete copy transfer files between both no problem.

But you can't edit the files directly on the sd like you could if it were a usb stick,or an sd card in a card reader. It's not mounting as a real usb device
XDA app on m8 running venom

Ashyx, you're seeing mtp and not ums.
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Expandable Removable Storage On The Note 5

The number one complaint of the Note 5 is the fact that their is no way to add storage since there is no micro sdcard slot. The good news is that the Note 5 has OTC capabilities built in without having to root the device. Just grab an OTG usb 3.0 flashdrive and plug it into the micro usb slot to add storage to your device. This isn't the best option ever, but is pretty convenient.
Is this a good enough option for you or will you be returning your Note 5 for a device with a micro sdcard slot?

owenbeals said:
The number one complaint of the Note 5 is the fact that their is no way to add storage since there is no micro sdcard slot. The good news is that the Note 5 has OTC capabilities built in without having to root the device. Just grab an OTG usb 3.0 flashdrive and plug it into the micro usb slot to add storage to your device. This isn't the best option ever, but is pretty convenient.
Is this a good enough option for you or will you be returning your Note 5 for a device with a micro sdcard slot?
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I discoverred this when I bought my S6 - and it does work very well. Not the same as an EXT SD, but not bad at all.

Could I cache music to this via Google music and listen to it
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i tough that with dual sim in china can support of sd card ? one of the sim can either be sim or sd, can someone confirm it ?

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i tough that with dual sim in china can support of sd card ? one of the sim can either be sim or sd, can someone confirm it ?
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it's been confirmed a while back. here's my N5 duos from Taiwan...
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it does not allow any microSD card. what you saw online was most likely the A8.
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owenbeals said:
The number one complaint of the Note 5 is the fact that their is no way to add storage since there is no micro sdcard slot. The good news is that the Note 5 has OTC capabilities built in without having to root the device. Just grab an OTG usb 3.0 flashdrive and plug it into the micro usb slot to add storage to your device. This isn't the best option ever, but is pretty convenient.
Is this a good enough option for you or will you be returning your Note 5 for a device with a micro sdcard slot?
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Well, there's not much sense in grabbing a usb 3.0 as you 're plugging it into usb 2.0 slot of note 5 - the transfer rate will be capped with slow usb 2.0 speed limitation... which will be still fine for consuming content.
plugging something into already huge note will make it even more bulky. Imagine if you're on a public transit and your note is in your pocket. Will it even fit there with anything plugged into the usb slot??
And perhaps most important thing - a device connected into a usb slot, will constantly consume battery (unlike the internal microsd card).
in my opinion, it cannot be "good enough".