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Here's a video I made last night pitting my new Nexus 4 up against my HTC One X in a variety of real world scenarios.
The One X is running the CM10 nightly from 20121109.
Despite what it looks like in the video, the One X is so fast that most people (including me) would not ask for more. Also, the screen and camera are far better.
At about the 1 minute mark, I demonstrate how the colours and contrast diminish when you look at the Nexus 4 screen at an angle.
Love my N4, but I love the One X as well. Both are brilliant phones.
I just don't like the look and feel of the one x. Plastic and annoying design that to me looks ugly. I told my friend to get the one x a while back and then changed my mind and told him to get the s3 but it was too late and he got the one x and I was like DAM thats an ugly phone lol
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I just don't like the look and feel of the one x. Plastic and annoying design that to me looks ugly. I told my friend to get the one x a while back and then changed my mind and told him to get the s3 but it was too late and he got the one x and I was like DAM thats an ugly phone lol
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I realize this is entirely a matter of personal taste, but to me the One X (especially the new black, softtouch One X+) has a much more high quality feel than the Nexus 4. The One X+ also feels better in my hand, because it has a more contoured back.
The Nexus 4 certainly is a nice phone. But the glass back comes across to me as more glitzy, than high quality.
You can also see in the video how much more useable vertical screen place the One X has, due to the capacitive buttons. It really does seem like a huge waste of space, to me, to have the home and back buttons on the screen.
Great vid,
All the moaning of a yellow screen, and the ONE X actually has more of a yellow tint.
And the ONE X screen is beautiful, so thanks for clearing up all my worries.
Screens do look very similar to me on this video
I would have liked to see a notification light, game loading and video watching comparison though aswell.
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Both are simular. Thanks for the video. I actually have the sensation and it's pretty fast as well though it does have its moments.
I'd still get the Nexus as its supported from AOSP. Where as 2 years down the line, we'd still have a lot of development going on. Unlike HTC phones after a year or two, it seems like it dies down
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cb474 said:
The One X+ also feels better in my hand, because it has a more contoured back..
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And just to demonstrate how much opinions differ, I think my N4 feels better in hand than my One X.
Personally, I think the One X looks beautiful. The contrast of the white curved around the black glass is just a design that's unmatched by any other phone. The One X+ in black looks awesome to my eyes as well.
I think materials of the N4 feel better. But the shape of the One X feels better. To hold in the hand, even though there is only 1mm in it in any direction, the One X feels far smaller. HTC really have the industrial design down pat.
Screens are very similar front on, but the viewing angles of the One X's screen are much better, which I tried to demonstrate in my video.
I hadn't thought of notification lights. The N4's is much softer but has the advantage of being RGB.
Game loading is similar to loading any of the other apps, the N4 is quite a bit faster.
I changed from the One X to the N4 because HTCDev doesn't give you S-OFF which isn't acceptable to me. Also, not being a Nexus means that AOSP-based ROMs have little issues such as bad wifi and worse battery life.
So.... I just left my local AT&T store after some quality hands-on time with the Moto X. My verdict: take my damned money, Motorola!
Disclaimer: I'm not a Moto or AT&T rep, just a guy who's owned 10+ Android devices since the G1 and up to the Galaxy S4. And currently I'm rocking the Lumia 1020 as my daily driver: love it too!
So I walked in at 9am when the store opened and made a quick sweep of the store looking for a Moto customatic booth. Today is the official launch and my bet was 50/50 they'd have a display up and running. Turns out they didn't :/ Way to go AT&T! Next I made a bee line for the store manager. Long story short: he didn't know when they would have display models available but he was more than happy to open a brand new white model up for me...
So? The Moto X feels fantastic. Think iPhone size, but rounded to fit exactly in your hands. I can honestly say there's no other phone outside of Nokia's Lumia series that feels as good in hand as the X. I'm 6'0" and have what I consider to be average size paws. The svelte bezels meant I could effortlessly reach all the way to the far corners of the screen, FINALLY :victory: I'm totally in love. Manufacturers keep making these razor-thin slabs with zero ergonomics and it's time for a revolution (seriously).
Since I'm a little busy this morning I will list a few observations and hopefully post some pictures later:
- The phone is SOLID. Both in weight and balance. Again the best comparison here is the iPhone 4S (I've never owned one but played with them enough). The guts of this little machine must be packed tight because it feels nothing like Samsung's M.O. of light and flimsy.
- The screen is sharp and and saturated, just like every AMOLED I've used before. Side by side with the GS4 I could discern no difference in screen quality. I would like to throw in the personal opinion that 1920x1080 on a 5", much less a 4.7" screen is completely unnecessary. Completely. GS4 owners (I was one) can argue till they're blue in the face but they'd still be mistaken. If 720p was excellent on a Note II at 5.5" then 720p at 4.7" is that much better. Yep, it's true.
- The buttons did not rattle or feel loose as some reviewers have mentioned. This is just one unit I tried but I didn't see looseness/rattling in it. We'll see how those buttons actually hold up after regular usage.
- I didn't test the camera. I will when they get the display models in. What's gonna beat the Lumia 1020 anyway?
- More to come....
Nice first impressions! Looking forward to more
Oh and when I read the title for a second I thought that you had gotten hold of a device called the "moto X mini" and I'm like holy crap is this real!? Lol and then I reread it again at then facepalmed.
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Haha, thanks for the kudos! I changed the title to disambiguate a bit. The Moto X is already "mini" :good:
I also went into the att store to look at the device. My thoughts:
One of the best feeling phones. It's amazing how small it is yet how much screen you get
The voice commands work well. In a loud ATT store, I just said okay google and i said it in a whisper and it picked it up.
the screen was not as good. I've had a droid dna for 9 months, i can tell a difference. The whites are more yellowish. The icons are good, the problem with going 1080p vs 720p is not the pictures, its the font. The font on the htc was customized better.
I coudln't try active notifications even though i have it on my phone through google play store. It's stupid to me that att or any other carrier puts some stupid video so the phone never turns off. When i turn off the phone and try to put it face down, i get some stupid moto x video and not the active notifcations. It really is super stupid. Nice job ATT.
Camera was okay. I did notice it was slightly washed but it was okay. when using it it, the tap to focus was not turned on by default yo uhave to go to settings and turn it on. after that, it focused better. The focus was relativaliey sharp and i just applied aftereffects to the phone and i was fine with the phone. I even compared it to the htc one and i wasn' tlike "oh wow the htc one is so much better"
Overall, i was dissapointed by the screen but very very very impressed with the build, size and body. It's very tempting.
Went and checked it out as well. Returned my OG Pro that I got a week ago and paid the extra $140 to cover the additional cost of the Moto X. The phone just feels right as corny as that sounds. I go through phones like no other, but this one has a good upside and feel.
I have a feeling that this phone will be one of those phones that everybody will crap on saying the HTC One or the S4 will be infinitely better without trying the phone out.
But as soon as they try it out they will change their tune and say it is a great phone and would be willing to trade their phone in for it.
Thanks for all the info, everyone. Just got a One a few weeks back so probably not in the upgrade market, but curious to see how this Device does. It's nice to see Google out there and focusing their efforts on non-nexus devices...the more access consumers have to this tech, the better. The active notifications sound really awesome, however, I can't stand the color rendering of the AMOLEDs. I know, I know, this has been said 1000x. But having spent much of my career assembling documents and presentation with a high level of graphic design attention, these AMOLEDs just kill to look at. The not-quite-white whites and super-saturated blues and greens just burn a hole in my soul. That said, still can't wait to get a hold of this thing and give it a run in the store. From what I can tell right now, this sounds like something I'd strongly consider upgrading to if I were in the market for a device.
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I have a feeling that this phone will be one of those phones that everybody will crap on saying the HTC One or the S4 will be infinitely better without trying the phone out.
But as soon as they try it out they will change their tune and say it is a great phone and would be willing to trade their phone in for it.
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I've got all three devices you mentioned... I think the Moto X is going back.
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I've got all three devices you mentioned... I think the Moto X is going back.
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Why's that if you don't mind me asking? What is it about the other two that is more appealing than the Moto X?
The moto X screen is great and the whites are whiter than the S4. My favorite features are the notifications and the Motorola Connect, love it.
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Why's that if you don't mind me asking? What is it about the other two that is more appealing than the Moto X?
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I don't mind at all!
The phone is pretty good, but there are some things I like quite a lot more about the GPe One or GS4.
Both of them have better displays. The One's aluminum is terrific. Stock android is amazing.
I think the only thing I'll really miss, and I mean really, is the voice control. It's really awesome.
Here's a reddit thread of first impressions:
http://www.reddit.com/r/MotoX/comments/1kyzzi/bought_one_at_the_store_first_impressions/
love my Moto X
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I don't mind at all!
The phone is pretty good, but there are some things I like quite a lot more about the GPe One or GS4.
Both of them have better displays. The One's aluminum is terrific. Stock android is amazing.
I think the only thing I'll really miss, and I mean really, is the voice control. It's really awesome.
Here's a reddit thread of first impressions:
http://www.reddit.com/r/MotoX/comments/1kyzzi/bought_one_at_the_store_first_impressions/
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Oh you went with the google play models, now that changes everything! I can see how you like those more than this phone.
I had a Google play s4 and decided on the moto x. For me its the size of the device. Being able to handle it easier one handed feels a lot better than trying to juggle the s4. Both great phones though. Maybe the s4 will get pulled out of the drawer one day
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With the recent $100 off unlocked moto x promo, I was ready to ditch my HTC One. I've been using One since near first day of release and tried all kinds of ROMs including GoogleExperience edition. I ended up settling on HTCs developer edition ROM with OTA updates. I recently got a warranty replacement and this was a cherry picked replacement device from 12 devices in front of me. 10 had flaws such as gaps and creeks for both black and silver ones. Anyways my One is in near perfect condition so I was going to sell it and get the Moto X.
I ordered my 32GB unlocked for $350 so it was a good deal. First thing I noticed was how blurry the text was on the edges. This matters a lot for web surfing and being able to see a lot more without zooming in is really nice. I hold my phone about 16 inches away from my eyes.
When I opened google maps it became relevant that this is a lower resolution screen, but this may be a software problem, I don't know. I'm missing all the details. Compared to my One, it's like going back 5 years to Nexus S times.
Whoever says anything over 300dpi is undetectable is lieing or haven't tried comparing them or simply don't need that high resolution screen. I suspect those people who dont nees high res scrren will use 768p screen on a 15" laptop too.
720p on phone screen would be okay if you only play games and watch movies on it.
Then I tried the camera and pictures in my room this morning after a series of moto x software updates, and had so much graininess it's like it came from a toy cam. This a major let down to me because I use the camera a lot and I don't facebook/instagram.
Moto assist is pretty awesome and so is Active Display and always ready voice commands. Phone itself is pretty snappy even though it has a mid range cpu. Build quality is not top notch though better than HTC One.
I'm returning mine and will stick with HTC One until a higher res Moto X or similar comes out.
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I think you're insane. With the phone a foot and a half away from my face text is far from blurry and I have just about the keenest vision around.
Coming from a GS4 I couldn't tell that much of a difference in screen resolution. Is there a difference? Sure, but not enough for me to care about. I really don't understand the hate on the camera. Low light isn't the best but it wasn't that great on the gs4 either. And the GS4 is regarded as having one of the best cameras for a smartphone. The feel, smoothness and features on the moto x trumps all the jank HTC or Samsung offer imo.
I actually went from a Nexus 5 to a Moto X and I have no regrets. I don't notice the screen difference that much other than the comparisons between IPS and AMOLED display. As for the screen size, I prefer the Moto X because I can hold the phone easily in one hand compared to the Nexus 5 which felt like a flatbread. The Moto X has by far the best ergonomics for a phone to date. The camera for me versus the Nexus 5 is more of a "whatever." Both cameras have their hit and misses but that's coming from someone who uses full frame cameras. I'm not really pixel peeping the quality of the images from the Moto X nor did I with the Nexus 5.
You must remember that the Moto X wasn't made to be a phone for people who cares about specs. It was made for the common, average, user in mind. The Moto X impresses from it's features rather than it's spec sheet. Similar to Apple's iPhone.
Just my 2 cents.
The HTC One's camera is obviously going to be better, especially in low light/indoor situations, because of the ultra pixel technology.
Screen Resolution is always going to be debatable. Some people notice it, some people don't. I'd say the bigger cause of difference between the screens is that one is AMOLED (X) and one is LCD (One). In general, LCD screens are crisper but color reproduction isn't always as good, whereas AMOLED screens have much better color saturation but might appear less crisp in comparison.
Well have fun on the HTC One forums and let us enjoy our crappy screen. Ive put the same image and webpage next to each other on a galaxy s4 and moto x. Studies show Motorola pulled of a 30% more power efficient screen. At 6 oclock at night when Im still using my phone my girlfriends is dead in her purse
I disagree. I came from an s4 and other the moto x screen. Being non pentile makes a big difference to my eyes. The x looks sharper to me
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I disagree. I came from an s4 and other the moto x screen. Being non pentile makes a big difference to my eyes. The x looks sharper to me
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Yeah, pentile AMOLED is far worse than non-pentile AMOLED.
I compared both the Samsung Galaxy S4 and the Moto X's screens and by far, the Moto X was much sharper.
If we can learn anything from this thread, I think it's clear that some people see the difference in the screen and some don't. It's silly to say "no, no difference, everyone that thinks there is is crazy" or "yes, of course there is a perceptible difference and if you can't see it, you're fools."
For me personally, I see the difference in text very readily. I moved from an S4 to the Moto X, and could immediately see the degradation in text quality. Now, do I care? No, because, while I can see the difference between the two, both resolutions are good enough for me.
As for the camera, I've been taking nothing but amazing shots, and I'm very happy. That said, I leave HDR on at all times.
Nope
HTC marketing shill detected.
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With the recent $100 off unlocked moto x promo, I was ready to ditch my HTC One. I've been using One since near first day of release and tried all kinds of ROMs including GoogleExperience edition. I ended up settling on HTCs developer edition ROM with OTA updates. I recently got a warranty replacement and this was a cherry picked replacement device from 12 devices in front of me. 10 had flaws such as gaps and creeks for both black and silver ones. Anyways my One is in near perfect condition so I was going to sell it and get the Moto X.
I ordered my 32GB unlocked for $350 so it was a good deal. First thing I noticed was how blurry the text was on the edges. This matters a lot for web surfing and being able to see a lot more without zooming in is really nice. I hold my phone about 16 inches away from my eyes.
When I opened google maps it became relevant that this is a lower resolution screen, but this may be a software problem, I don't know. I'm missing all the details. Compared to my One, it's like going back 5 years to Nexus S times.
Whoever says anything over 300dpi is undetectable is lieing or haven't tried comparing them or simply don't need that high resolution screen. I suspect those people who dont nees high res scrren will use 768p screen on a 15" laptop too.
720p on phone screen would be okay if you only play games and watch movies on it.
Then I tried the camera and pictures in my room this morning after a series of moto x software updates, and had so much graininess it's like it came from a toy cam. This a major let down to me because I use the camera a lot and I don't facebook/instagram.
Moto assist is pretty awesome and so is Active Display and always ready voice commands. Phone itself is pretty snappy even though it has a mid range cpu. Build quality is not top notch though better than HTC One.
I'm returning mine and will stick with HTC One until a higher res Moto X or similar comes out.
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What a troll....
For me the Moto X has been a welcome change from my S3. At the price it's truly realistic to go off-contract and save some money and still have a GREAT phone. Consistently 5 hours of screen on time and pretty much only recharging every other day compared with around 2 hours and less than a day on the S3. Really like the size and ergonomics; I think Motorola really hit the sweet spot here. Can still handle and use it with one hand and not feel visually cramped like that fruity phone. The near stock environment is also welcome. I can tell a slight difference in ~300dpi vs ~400dpi, but not huge and wouldn't trade that off for less battery life. When the fonts get that small, I'm switching to landscape orientation anyways. Camera wise it OK, but I don't look for much out of any mobile phone. It's for quick shots when I don't have something better with me (e.g. Sony RX100 with a sensor >7x larger). That said, I respect HTC for their camera approach trading off resolution for larger sensor photosites which end up being in the same range as something like the RX100. Build quality wise, the 3 Moto X's in our house were all perfect. Personally, I don't equate plastic with cheap. I equate quality plastic with a phone designed to take some drops and not dent or crack. A Rolex like feel (i.e. the fruity phone) makes for wonderful marketing, and sort of makes more sense if you're strapping it to your wrist (like a watch) and view it as something for the long haul that you're not replacing when your next 2 year subsidy comes up. Also appreciate that the Moto X has some level of repairability compared with the HTC One. Not as simple to replace a battery as the Samsung's, but still doable (ifixit teardowns).
At 16 inches away text would need to be really small for me to notice blurryness. to the point where i wouldn't be able to read it anyway.
I can see the differences in displays, but it's more than just resolutions (as already mentioned) pentiles have huge drawbacks.... but even in non pentile i think even the shape of the subpixels matter as well.
I think there's diminishing returns for anything much higher than 720p on a phone though (at least for non phablet phones)
It takes so much more power to light the pixes and GPU power to keep them running smoothly.
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The camera sucks.
There, I said it.
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Well, the cameras are a bit different. The HTC One takes better pictures when it decides to get them in focus. I don't know why, but with my HTC One, it felt like I needed a freaking tripod to not have a blurry shot.
With my X, I get a sharp shot mostly every single time.
When you've got to take a quick picture, I don't give a crap if every 5th one comes out looking great and sharp, I just need one picture that comes out clear and workable.
I did love my One though, but without the touchless and active notifications, it was a goner.
Yes the camera needs to be better when compared to other high-end phones.
and yes the screen would look less crisp next to a 1080p screen.
But how can you argue when its almost half the price of other phones?
Motorola obviously made a conscious decision to make the device way more affordable.
You can't complain about that
I honestly cannot tell the difference between my 720p Moto X and my 1080p Droid DNA. The only difference I can tell between the two are the more saturated colors on the Moto X. Other than that, they're both crystal clear and I cannot make out any pixels.
As for the camera, it has been serviceable for me. Haven't had any issues at all.
Hey all I have owned a Moto X (republic wireless) for almost a year now. Just a great phone, can't say enough about it. But it does have a few niggling quirks that i'm wondering if the Z1c might solve. Plus I have to switch phones now since my sprint coverage is horrible since I moved.
So this is mainly a shout out to anyone who has owned or had the chance to test the two phones. My first issue with the Moto X is its camera, its okish but only that. I would love to get something that could consistently take good shots(a little tweaking is ok). The Moto X still has very extreme color shift from shot to shot even after its camera app updates. I took a couple pics of a sea craft the other day and the colors shifted from the smiley face yellow you see here to a very pale yellow in just a few seconds. Just annoying. So thoughts on the two cameras?
performance wise it does not really matter to me. The Z1c of course has the higher end tech, but both seem very smooth and have solid battery life. screen size is close enough and I prefer smaller to larger at this point. I don't game, so the GPU is not a big deal.
I do like having the SD card slot in the Z1c although I still have not put over 10 GB on my Moto X, so its not a huge deal. Still if the camera on the Z1c was adequate and could replace my PS that could change fast.
The Moto X(XT1053) does have all of Tmobile/AT&T bands covered while the Z1c is missing a major AT&T LTE (700) band. Thats a minor issue since I will be using the phone on Tmobile, or AT&T MVNOs which typically only have access to HSDPA+ anyways.
Price is very close on the two right now at about $400 each. The Moto X does seem to go on sale a lot though for around $300-$350.
So any thoughts/recommendations on the two phones? Anything I should know about the Z1c as far as issues/complaints? I have read about the flash bleed issue, but I don't mind replacing the back with glass, even though I would end up putting a carbon fiber skin case on it anyways.
1. If i had Moto X it would be long dead cause of water damage.
2. Z1C camera is actually really good if you figure out manual mode (see downsides) and with 64gig sd card you don't have to worry running out of space doing that awesome video.
3. I've never seen a phone with so good battery life as Z1C - my average is 3 days standby with 5 and ½ hours screen on. It actually feels good to see everybodys battery dead at the end of day but i still have over 65% left
4. Here in Estonia we have fairly good LTE coverage but i tend not to use it cause it drains way faster than 3G+ which is fast enought.
Downsides of Z1C.
You have to replace plastic back to fix flash bleed (only issue when doing photos in dark) and replace horrible ASF on front with tempered glass = no warranty
You need to find best Manual camera settings cause superior auto sometimes fails altho it does excellent photos too.
I don't have other issues honestly, i would get the Compact, well i did and it's the first phone ever i am totally satisfied with.
This summer Z3 Compact will be launched with Z2 feathures. Keep that in mind.
I've owned galaxy s4,s2, htc one and some weird LG phone that had buttons on the back.
I currently own both the Moto X on republic wireless and an unlocked Z1C. I agree with the above points about the photos and the battery life blows the Moto X out of the water. The only thing i miss from the moto x is the active display, i find myself picking up the Z1C without pushing the power button to see the time.
Any obvious reasons why the 2015 X has a lower water resistance rating than the 2015 G? I am surprised the "flagship" device is less water resistant.
Because
Because it is.
Moto Q??? did I miss an announcement??
More water resistant vs less water resistant now? I mean seriously?
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Moto Q??? did I miss an announcement??
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Sorry, corrected, Moto G.
ambervals6 said:
More water resistant vs less water resistant now? I mean seriously?
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Yea, it may seem petty. But given the Moto X is the flagship, it seems it would have as much or more water resistance than the lower end device.
Making a phone IPX7 waterproof adds bulk to the device (thicker bezels, smaller screen to body ratio). This is why Sony phones score poorly on this aspect. If Motorola wanted to have a 5.7 inch phone with IPX7 ratio, they couldn't have made it in the size of the moto x style and it ould have been too big, even now peaople are already complaining about the size.
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Sorry, corrected, Moto G.
Yea, it may seem petty. But given the Moto X is the flagship, it seems it would have as much or more water resistance than the lower end device.
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Why do newer phones get to break easier than older ones?
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Making a phone IPX7 waterproof adds bulk to the device (thicker bezels, smaller screen to body ratio). This is why Sony phones score poorly on this aspect. If Motorola wanted to have a 5.7 inch phone with IPX7 ratio, they couldn't have made it in the size of the moto x style and it ould have been too big, even now peaople are already complaining about the size.
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Thank you, for a well reasoned and explained answer.
Has anyone taken it to the pool yet?
Taking mine on a cruise next month. Now if the damn thing would get here!