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Will Unlocking + ROOTing my Nexus One prevent me from recieving future OTA updates from Google or no?
If you have a rooted G1 (reading your sig) wouldn't the answer be self explanatory?
Eclair~ said:
If you have a rooted G1 (reading your sig) wouldn't the answer be self explanatory?
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Did you even read my question?
What does my Sig have to do with my question?
I have a Nexus One and I don't want to miss future updates, such as "Adobe Flash" which is a proprietary app and I don't want to miss out.
If you install ROMs, I assumed you would know that you cannot receive OTA updates anymore. Which I'm sure you do. I don't know personally if rooting your phone, and still using the stock system will disable you from receiving OTA updates. So I'm not of use here. Don't know why I posted here myself lol. Thanks for the harshly toned text ._.
Eclair~ said:
If you install ROMs, I assumed you would know that you cannot receive OTA updates anymore. Which I'm sure you do. I don't know personally if rooting your phone, and still using the stock system will disable you from receiving OTA updates. So I'm not of use here. Don't know why I posted here myself lol. Thanks for the harshly toned text ._.
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kthanx. I think.
BookCase said:
Will Unlocking + ROOTing my Nexus One prevent me from recieving future OTA updates from Google or no?
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i'm also interested in this question. i would like to root my n1, but i would also like to receive OTA updates from google. i don't plan on installing a custom ROM, just use stock and root for the purpose of wifi tether and a few other root apps. anyone?
I am wondering this as well. I installed the bacon addon from cyanogen and don't want to screw myself out of the ota updates.
Thanks.
You can't have everything people. Pick one. If you need to revert back, I wrote a tutorial.
Chances are you are going to see the updates here first. You guys should know that already unless you are one of those people that come in here, download an update and leave for a few months and recheck to see if there are any other updates.
seraph1024 said:
You can't have everything people. Pick one. If you need to revert back, I wrote a tutorial.
Chances are you are going to see the updates here first. You guys should know that already unless you are one of those people that come in here, download an update and leave for a few months and recheck to see if there are any other updates.
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Sorry, I'm not referring to running a custom ROM. I just want to know if i unlock and ROOT but, keep the original ROM, will I still get the OTA updates or no? So, if anyone knows, I'd gratefully appreciate it.
As far as I understand, as long as you're using the stock, signed Nexus One ROM, nothing would change that would prevent you from receiving OTA updates.
I'm not positive.
The reason custom ROMs do not get OTA updates is because they have the files for them removed, and in the case of the G1, the partition used for doing those is removed if you have the DangerSPL.
Simply rooting and keeping stock should allow you to OTA update still no problem, but like was already pointed out, the updates will be on here befor they are released OTA, and a good cooked ROM is 10times better than the stock.
pjcforpres said:
The reason custom ROMs do not get OTA updates is because they have the files for them removed, and in the case of the G1, the partition used for doing those is removed if you have the DangerSPL.
Simply rooting and keeping stock should allow you to OTA update still no problem, but like was already pointed out, the updates will be on here befor they are released OTA, and a good cooked ROM is 10times better than the stock.
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Thank you.
flomid said:
i'm also interested in this question. i would like to root my n1, but i would also like to receive OTA updates from google. i don't plan on installing a custom ROM, just use stock and root for the purpose of wifi tether and a few other root apps. anyone?
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If you do root and want your wifi to work you have to flash a rom i think, i rooted and didnt plan on flashing a rom but had to to get the wifi working.
did u root with superboot over a modaco, as i had no probs with wifi, after i rooted.
BookCase said:
Will Unlocking + ROOTing my Nexus One prevent me from recieving future OTA updates from Google or no?
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Why does this matter??????????????
If you rooted, you'd get the OTA updates faster than OTA people!!!!!!!!!!!
I have a 100% stock, un-rooted N1. I didn't get the OTA update within the first day, so I did it manually anyway.
What is the point of fearing that you'll miss out on OTA updates??? With root, that should be your *LAST* concern.
BTW guaranteed you will get Flash sooner with a rooted phone than without!
These threads make no sense whatsoever.
Hey guys, just curious since I havent gotten a chance to use a rooted phone yet.
-When google comes out with 2.2 froyo update, are we able to update it from a rooted rom or does it have to be under stock condition?
+1. will be going from cyan to stock again when froyo comes out. but how?
You'd probably have to wait until someone post the stock rom of froyo, and then flash that.
Or flash on of the numerous stock ROMs that already exist, and get OTA like the rest of us.
Or wait for cyan for his release which I believe will be soon after the official release.
You will have to wait until either someone posts a stock 2.2 ROM that world with rooted phones or someone like cyanogen updates.
Once a different recovery is installed on the phone, the OTA system will never work again. Not even if you go back to stock.
This is a complete non issue. The stock 2.2 rom may very well be available to flash here before you recieve the ota if its a rolling release. If not it will be a close race. BTW, The ota looks for a stock officially signed recovery to install itself with, if you do not have one the ota will fail.
jamesyb0i said:
+1. will be going from cyan to stock again when froyo comes out. but how?
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Just out of interest (I am not making any judgements), why do you want to go from CM to stock as opposed to a CM modded version of 2.2?
Or are you just assuming 2.2 will drop before CM has time to mod it so want to get on it asap?
ill just wait for cyano to release its froyo version...
I'd be willing to bet that the features present in 2.2 will reach a version of CM before they reach any non-rooted N1. I'm just saying... we already have some of the features currently, i.e. customizable trackball notifications.
that really just depends on when google pushes the sources of 2.2 into AOSP. so chances are that a stock 2.2 will be available sooner than a cyanogen 2.2, but it will be worth the wait
3Shirts said:
Just out of interest (I am not making any judgements), why do you want to go from CM to stock as opposed to a CM modded version of 2.2?
Or are you just assuming 2.2 will drop before CM has time to mod it so want to get on it asap?
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cos my battery life is absolutely shocking now, and things like stock weather program isn't working, cyan just watches LOST season 3 wtf lol
jamesyb0i said:
cos my battery life is absolutely shocking now, and things like stock weather program isn't working, cyan just watches LOST season 3 wtf lol
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well obviously you're not paying cyanogen enough to address it
walie said:
well obviously you're not paying cyanogen enough to address it
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bazinga!!!
he tasks me, he tasks me.
but naw switched to enom's for now, miss trackball unlock but allgud/ battery heaps better
PrawnPoBoy said:
You will have to wait until either someone posts a stock 2.2 ROM that world with rooted phones or someone like cyanogen updates.
Once a different recovery is installed on the phone, the OTA system will never work again. Not even if you go back to stock.
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That's not true. I did a warranty replacement a while back and restored the phone to stock before sending it back. I used the SAPPIMG.zip method to restore the shipping ROM, recovery, and radio. After rebooting and setting up the phone, I was offered the OTA update and the OTA completed successfully. Being bootloader unlocked did not affect my ability to get OTA updates.
A little confusion here it seems and I will throw out my understanding. An ota will work if it does not have to access an officially signed recovery, if it does and does not find one it will fail. Once you have installed a custom recovery going back to the stock one will not help in this regard because it is no longer officially signed. 2.2 will require an officially signed recovery to install and everything I read says it will be seen, it will download, then it will fail to install. If this is incorrect than I look forward to learning more about this question as it keeps popping up over and over. I have yet to hear from any owner who was able to update from 2.0 to 2.1 after having installed a custom recovery, seems like there would have been many....
Just checkin'...TIA
JC
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Just checkin'...TIA
JC
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They usually release only to a few thousand at a time the first few days, then up to 10,000 a day a few days later or something like that, so you might not get it till next week if its truly coming out.
They also have typically announced the update in the Verizonwireless.com forums under the android\incredible section. Until you see it there I would consider it a rumor.
Im just wondering if we will even get the ota if we're rooted or if we will have to unroot first.
According to this, the update is for real:
w ww.droid-life.com/2010/07/16/breaking-droid-incredible-ota-update-is-go/
Oops...can't post a link yet.
hey OP, make this a poll
I've been seeing it everywhere, but haven't gotten it yet.
JTCGiants56 said:
Im just wondering if we will even get the ota if we're rooted or if we will have to unroot first.
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I second this question
Kipphh said:
I second this question
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gonna have to unroot to get updates.
EDIT: I take this back. It depends on your version. If you have an older version of software and you have not turned off notifications you will get the notification to update. If, however you're running a froyo ROM then my understanding is that you won't see the update.
Been on all the android forums today , so far nobody has gotten the update OTA.
If it was out today vzw would confirm it like they did when we got the first update.
All I heard today was a friend of a friend got the update , RIGHT !
Verizon hasn't released the "official" OTA, but there is a leaked version that people are downloading and installing. It appears to be authentic, but since not an OTA may affect future Radio updates if you install it. Plenty of info over at the Droid Forum.
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Verizon hasn't released the "official" OTA, but there is a leaked version that people are downloading and installing. It appears to be authentic, but since not an OTA may affect future Radio updates if you install it. Plenty of info over at the Droid Forum.
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Which Droid forum?
this droid forum for one thing. Check in the development section and you will see several threads with leaked ota discussing this
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I'm really anxious to get the update, but I'm going to wait for the OTA. I updated my Eris with a leaked OTA, and I ended up regretting it. It made rooting much more difficult, and stopped me from getting the final OTA.
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I'm really anxious to get the update, but I'm going to wait for the OTA. I updated my Eris with a leaked OTA, and I ended up regretting it. It made rooting much more difficult, and stopped me from getting the final OTA.
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Do you know how it stopped you from getting the final OTA? i would think if you wiped and went back to a stock ROM the network wouldn't know the difference.
Ezun said:
Do you know how it stopped you from getting the final OTA? i would think if you wiped and went back to a stock ROM the network wouldn't know the difference.
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Nope. Known issue with the Eris leak.
Well, I'm not sure if if I have the OTA or not, or just part of it.
I rooted with the original instructions, then updated everything with Unrevoked 3.1. Stock ROM installed, have working WIFI tether.
Yesterday, got a message in my notification bar that a Verizon widget was available. I can now add a new Data Usage widget to my desktop, which says "Data Usage 0.0/0 MB Estimate as of N/A". Not sure why it isn't updating, but it's possible that it's related to me having a corporate rather than a personal account.
Never got a prompt to install any OTA. Tethering still works.
Hardware version 0002, Firmware version 2.1-update1
So maybe the Verizon widget was pushed by itself without the full OTA since I don't have the standard recovery?
FYI, the OTA has been halted in favor of packaging it up with the official Android FroYo v2.2 update. So instead up two OTA's we will have one OTA to rule them all!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=729749
Even better! I assume the recommendation then is to unroot?
greno1 said:
Even better! I assume the recommendation then is to unroot?
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No, the recommendation would probably be to hold your horses and wait till the OTA get's patched so we can simply upgrade without any hassle.
So installed 2.2.1 on my phone via sdcard blah blah blah. That's it. Nothing else. No changes unless that update did it itself. Someone said as long as you did just that, I can still update to the official OTA 2.2. They said this doesn't block updates, changing roms and kernels does. Is this true cause if so then ill just wait till the update and not revert back to stock.
no. you will not recieve ota updates running anything except official stock rom. that would be di18 or older.
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So installed 2.2.1 on my phone via sdcard blah blah blah. That's it. Nothing else. No changes unless that update did it itself. Someone said as long as you did just that, I can still update to the official OTA 2.2. They said this doesn't block updates, changing roms and kernels does. Is this true cause if so then ill just wait till the update and not revert back to stock.
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you say changing roms is what affects updates, well, what do you think you did by flashing 2.2?
that is changing the rom!
Relax, take a deep breath, and stop making threads.
If your phone works fine now, go with it. The official update will be leaked here too, and you will be able to flash it the same way you flashed DK28.
Will you be able to get it OTA? Possibly, but Sprint rolls everything out slowly. I got my phone 2 weeks ago and it claimed I was on the newest version: DG27! Obviously DI18 was out but their OTA system is flaky at best.
If you want to go back to being part of the masses, go read the thread about how to Odin back to stock and wait patiently for Sprint to update you.
If you want the latest and greatest, stick with DK28 and flash the new version when it comes out.
Simple as that.
hi lucjoe!
Oh well shi*. I didn't even think about that. Yeah ill just wait till the official version comes out download.it and flsh it. Haha sweet then my phone will be official again no worries! Genius! God I'm an idiot....
LucJoe said:
Relax, take a deep breath, and stop making threads.
If your phone works fine now, go with it. The official update will be leaked here too, and you will be able to flash it the same way you flashed DK28.
Will you be able to get it OTA? Possibly, but Sprint rolls everything out slowly. I got my phone 2 weeks ago and it claimed I was on the newest version: DG27! Obviously DI18 was out but their OTA system is flaky at best.
If you want to go back to being part of the masses, go read the thread about how to Odin back to stock and wait patiently for Sprint to update you.
If you want the latest and greatest, stick with DK28 and flash the new version when it comes out.
Simple as that.
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Did your phone eventually update itself? If so how long did it take for the phone to figure out it needed to update?
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Did your phone eventually update itself? If so how long did it take for the phone to figure out it needed to update?
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NO it didn't i just found the link to the "official" update and downloaded it, flashed it and thats it. chances are, the ACTUAL leaked version will be able to download before the OTA actually hits.
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NO it didn't i just found the link to the "official" update and downloaded it, flashed it and thats it. chances are, the ACTUAL leaked version will be able to download before the OTA actually hits.
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^This
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When I first got the epic my first phone was on dg27 and after 2 days still wouldn't update so I did it myself with odin. I took it back cause I felt maybe there was something wrong since it wouldn't update itself. The one I have now came with di18 on it. Why do some phones not update themselves?
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When I first got the epic my first phone was on dg27 and after 2 days still wouldn't update so I did it myself with odin. I took it back cause I felt maybe there was something wrong since it wouldn't update itself. The one I have now came with di18 on it. Why do some phones not update themselves?
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It has nothing to do with the phone. The OTA system rolls out slowly across the country. Also, the function to check for updates seems to not actually check the main server, but rather waits for updates to be pushed to it. This push could take a few days even if your area is live for the update.
Just another reason to flash from our wonderful community and ignore their OTA updates. Also, a terrible reason to return a phone...
Are you saying that if I waited long enough it might have updated itself? I called sprint tech and explained to them that I was two updates behind and they said it should have updated by now and that it must have an issue. So he said take it back to where I got it and he would put a note in my acct. That the phone was defective. So I played with it that night and flashed the update to it and rooted it just to learn.
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Oh well shi*. I didn't even think about that. Yeah ill just wait till the official version comes out download.it and flsh it. Haha sweet then my phone will be official again no worries! Genius! God I'm an idiot....
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So since the OTA was just released and 2.2 ppl can update with no problem, I tried but can't flash the update.zip because I'm on 2.3.3 leaked. I guess my question is, if i go to tmobile to do the whole sd card update crap, will they deny me the update if they find out I'm on the leaked version of 2.3.3 or will they even care? What do you guys think?
I don't see why, it can't hurt to try. Worst they can do in the store is tell you no. I sent in a phone under warranty that had the leak on it and tmo never said a word about it.
they probably won't even check to see if you have the leak. what the hell will they do anyway if they do see it??? They will probably power the phone down and pop the card in and update. I just hope they can update over the leaked since I cant get the OTA to work.
Yeah that makes sense. plus i heard that people got some phones back with the update already installed anyway, so I guess we'll see. Thanks for the reply though.
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they probably won't even check to see if you have the leak. what the hell will they do anyway if they do see it??? They will probably power the phone down and pop the card in and update. I just hope they can update over the leaked since I cant get the OTA to work.
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True. I'm in the same boat as you here lol
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they probably won't even check to see if you have the leak. what the hell will they do anyway if they do see it??? They will probably power the phone down and pop the card in and update. I just hope they can update over the leaked since I cant get the OTA to work.
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There are sometimes multiple ota builds depending on the current version. Hold out and see if another file pops up.
I would also imagine someone will post the contents of the sd card as well.
worst case I think someone posted instructions for reverting to a stock image.
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i did a warranty exchange and had the leaked version of 2.3 on my phone. No issues.
You can always downgrade via this guide How ever I doubt there is a giant difference between the leak and the OTA and I bet there will be a RUU released soon that you can update via bootloader.
Edit: This just popped up no comments yet, you can venture if you dare.
no issues when I handed over my phone to the guy today. worked just fine with the leaked version it. thank god cuz trying to downgrade was a major pain and got no where!
Anyone have the sd card contents.. it would make my life a lot easier. I'm on 2.3.3 and want to get to 2.3.4 without downgrading
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