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I'm a bit anoyed with the slowness of Touch HD so am considering moving to Hero or iPhone.
iPhone seems to be very quick, but I don't really like Apple's lock-it-down concept, so if UI speed on Hero is comparable to iPhone, I'd rather go that way.
Any input on this?
Hero all the way, more options as such.. however there are some bugs with flash otherwise go for it... i wud still stay with the HD, bigger screen/better reso, everytin else is the same as the hero, cept the digital compass - if u have gps, its rather useless.
hope i helped.
I would prob view the options in person rather then
judging from youtube clips and the likes
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I'm a bit anoyed with the slowness of Touch HD so am considering moving to Hero or iPhone.
iPhone seems to be very quick, but I don't really like Apple's lock-it-down concept, so if UI speed on Hero is comparable to iPhone, I'd rather go that way.
Any input on this?
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iPhone 3gs can be jailbroken now...if you want to go down that route
I can't understand what everybody means with "the Touch HD interface is so slow"
How could it be much faster? Or is there such a big gap between Touch HD and iPhone in UI speed?
Maybe I can try an iPhone myself in the next days to look for big differences, but atm i can't imagine, that it would be so much faster.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but if an App has to load a certain amount into the memory, there MUST be a small lag before the program opens.
And I think the Touch HD handles Apps and especially its TouchFLO interface very well and fast. So I have no need to even compare to iPhone or something similar because I'm happy
Well UI on Touch HD is slow(-er than iphone 3gs)! Did you not expirience the lag between your action and reaction, when you e.g. move between the tabs, or when you answer the call (veeery annoying), when your going through the contacts, etc?
Iphone seems to do all these things with no noticable dealy.
Also browsing on iPhone is much better (read: faster & better screen rendering and navigation) even though screen resolution is lower.
I guess I'll have to wait for Hero to get into the shops and test in person...
Whats your memory usage like while you are having slow responses from the touch? I don't use TouchFlo and my HD is very fast apart from some of the larger apps like tom tom they all open straight away.
Maybe its because I don't got a direct comparison myself.
But for me, there is no disturbing lag which would me force to buy the iPhone
Like I said, hopefully I can test it myself and compare.
I will give instant feedback after that.
I think iPhone is not exactly faster, but it's much more smooth, it needs slightest touch/multi-touch to response, whereas for HTC Touch HD we have to use more force.
You should try iPhone and you'll get what I mean .
I dont know about hero but iphone resolution is HVGA 480x320 which is lower than a VGA 480x640. if your used to HD screen resolution 480x800 then you will find HVGA pixelated. I would never buy a phone with screen resolution lower than VGA no matter how fast the UI. Remember iphone os is not the same as wm which loads a lot of things on startup due to its multi-tasking capability. try turning off touchflo that would make your HD a lot faster. Keep your HD which is superior to iphone 3Gs
I suggest you try the cooked ROMs if you haven't. They can be very fast and stable. Personally, I have used both iPhone and I have Touch HD with Dutty's WM 6.5 Muchos R4 Rom, I would never think of switching to an iPhone. My Touch HD is very responsive and Fast even with TF3D enabled.
I'm going to wait for another htc phone based on android sense but with a new procesor
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I suggest you try the cooked ROMs if you haven't. They can be very fast and stable. Personally, I have used both iPhone and I have Touch HD with Dutty's WM 6.5 Muchos R4 Rom, I would never think of switching to an iPhone. My Touch HD is very responsive and Fast even with TF3D enabled.
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Totally agree. I use HD and Iphone and thanks to Dutty's WM6.5 R4 I like HD much more!
"I think iPhone is not exactly faster, but it's much more smooth, it needs slightest touch/multi-touch to response, whereas for HTC Touch HD we have to use more force."
sounds more like a capative vs. restience touch screen hardware difference
some of the andriod devices like capative touch screens too
I've had me HD for about a month now.
Sure it's slow with some things. (not much though)
But, I'm sure the iphone has it's issues also?
The touch can be adjusted to suit, many things can be adjusted. And there are many apps to load and custom HD to your liking.
I did find, having about 9 apps runnig, started to show a little more 'slowness' than norm, but compared with my old S730, it flies along
I spent ages deciding between the HD and new iphone.
I'm plenty happy to get the HD, not wishing I got the iphone.
I haven't seen Hero yet in person but would suggest to wait for the new processors they'll be ready in a month or two and your HD is going to "survive" till then.Personally i won't change it for awhile I like tweaking it and it now has a "soul" it's like a pet compared to the iphone which is like a "tool" .
i would wait until senseUI comes out and able to be put on your HD and see what you think
The smoothness of the iPhone is because of the coding. If you want to see the same degree of smooth scrolling then install PhoneEx for your WinMo and you will see what i mean.
Everything you do is similar to the iPhone smoothness.
WinMo is easily capable but it needs competent programmers, like the creators of PhoneEx to make it decent.
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Well UI on Touch HD is slow(-er than iphone 3gs)! Did you not expirience the lag between your action and reaction, when you e.g. move between the tabs, or when you answer the call (veeery annoying), when your going through the contacts, etc?
Iphone seems to do all these things with no noticable dealy.
Also browsing on iPhone is much better (read: faster & better screen rendering and navigation) even though screen resolution is lower.
I guess I'll have to wait for Hero to get into the shops and test in person...
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have you tried using teh cooked ROMS in the forums? or perhaps using HD Tweak! then you'll notice how really fast the blackstone is!
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"I think iPhone is not exactly faster, but it's much more smooth, it needs slightest touch/multi-touch to response, whereas for HTC Touch HD we have to use more force."
sounds more like a capative vs. restience touch screen hardware difference
some of the andriod devices like capative touch screens too
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As mentioned before, install the phone extention program PhoneEx and you will see how wrong that is.
yes i know i might be in the wrong place, but how many HD users went iPhone and came back? and why?
i wouldnt consider buying a phone with less than a VGA screen
Well I have a HTC Touch HD, and I couldn't be more disappointed with it, so i'm thinking of changing to the iPhone.
It's a shame really, because the Touch is quite versatile, but there are pet hates that have grown too big now. 1; The battery barely lasts a day anymore and it's only 3 months old. 2; Winmo is a pain and constantly causes me to want to loose my temper when I try and reply to a simple text message. 3; there's better apps for the iPhone such as Facebook (i've tried the winmo version, and it's useless).
Maybe if I get one, then I'll land up coming back again, who knows?
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Well I have a HTC Touch HD, and I couldn't be more disappointed with it, so i'm thinking of changing to the iPhone.
It's a shame really, because the Touch is quite versatile, but there are pet hates that have grown too big now. 1; The battery barely lasts a day anymore and it's only 3 months old. 2; Winmo is a pain and constantly causes me to want to loose my temper when I try and reply to a simple text message. 3; there's better apps for the iPhone such as Facebook (i've tried the winmo version, and it's useless).
Maybe if I get one, then I'll land up coming back again, who knows?
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Hey... I had an iPhone for a month while i had my HD as well...
Regarding your concerns...
1. Propably you play with your HD quite a bit or you have a faulty battery. If the first one applies then believe me the iPhone would last propably around 6 hours...
2. I dont understand why is that... I mean is simple.. the txt comes, you read it and then reply.. simple as that.. Ok it might take one second more until you get to the reply screen..
3. Its true that there are lots of apps for the iphone, but most of them are crappy things to get you excited, but there is no apparent use of them..
I found the iPhone to be more straight forward but very shallow.. I am into computers and gadgets a lot so WM is my thing and I wouldnt change to anything else at the moment.. HD is a great device and HD2 is even better.. I can't wait to get one..
Take care
I've had my iPhone 3g for 15 months now and despite what fanboys may spout on this site, it's not a bad little device. Apps are easy to find and if you sift through the piles of crap and fart apps, there are some real quality applications. It also has a pile of outstanding games.
However I have repeatedly considered returning for the HD and currently am waiting for the release of the HD2 which will be a definite purchase. The iphone is excellent it's UI is snappy and responsive. However everything is dictated by Apple. This means many features are missing, and when buying my iPhone I did sit down and think about missing features and concluded that many of the missing things were stuff I didn't use much anyway. However it's not just about the missing stuff, it's the way things that are added are half done. For example with Software 3.0 Apple introduced Bluetooth A2DP streaming, and yes we did get excited about something that should have been there all along. However to date they still have not introduced the system which initials I forget that, allows the use of Skip forward and back buttons.
Theres also this myth that Apple do things slowly and their own way so that "Everything just works". This is bullsh*t and in the last 15 months I've seen many updates which introduce bugs and faults, including one of the latest that causes the ihone to freeze in sleep mode and become unresponsive. The exact sort of thing that the Apple fanboys will laugh at Windows for doing, but strangely I never encountered.
I moved away from Windows mobile because for a while there was this strange direction for screens to become smaller and to need more buttons, which is exactly the opposite of what I wanted for a touchscreen device. However the Blackstone and even more so the Leo are against that trend. Big screens, low clutter and more finger friendly. With WinMo I won't be constantly waiting for Apple to release an update that breaks my chance of Jailbreaking or unlocking to a chosen network.
I'll be loosing a ton of great games, but in it's grace I can still sell my iPhone for enough cash to go out and buy a PSP.
Aesthetically HTC sense is beautiful too.
I have a Touch HD and I just got my friend an iPhone 3G S. I must admit that I really envy the iPhone's fast and smooth UI. But that's it. I played around with her iPhone and I found myself bored with it after a while.
So i don't think I'll be switching yet.
Btw, a guy named tuxhero was able to successfully port Android to our Blackstone. Check out Blackstone ROM development.
Hi,for business men , windows mobile is the best system . For gamer , iPhone was invented ...
I asked because I'm considering getting an iPhone and I keep thinking of all the things I'm going to miss.
I am thinking of not getting it because i'm going to hate the hand-holding and being dictated to re what i can and cannot do with my device, but i am not happy with where Windows Mobile is currently at.
battery life on the iPhone looks dismal
getting tired of the whole unlock/jailbreak constant drama.
I don't know what else i'd get though. Not impressed with the HD2, TF3D looks the same to me, no evidence of it being any faster (it being TF3D) and the whole weather thing is a gimmick...a couple hours and you'll be tired of it
I'd like to see some real world tests of applications.
Then there's the whole thing about buying a device before Windows Mobile 7 drops...
I give up
i have a touch hd and a 3gs and to be honest i use the iphone more but then thats maybe just down to personal preference
But the iphone has to be jalbroken to get a fullish benefit
i wouldnt ever tell anyone not to get a touch hd as its a lovely looking phone(better than the iphone in my opinion)and i think the screen size is just perfect
but at the end of the i prefer the iphone but theres not alot in it
I have HTC HD but yesterday bought an iPhone 3gs, and now the HD is up for sale
The reasons are many, however if you like HD and consider a switch - wait for the HD2.
The greatest advantage of the iphone is the appstore. Of course many many more things are important. For me - I couldn't stand anymore the WinMo! Mac OS X is absolutely fascinating! Before I buy an iphone, I had an ipod touch, so pretty much I knew what I'll get with the apple phone.
like i said not impressed by the HD2...its too big, i hate the buttons, and yes the benchmarks show its faster but the interface looks no different to me.
I find the itunes app store a gimmick...yes you get sucked into the idea that there are tons of apps...how many of them are useful...how many do you use let's say in a week?
i was seriously considering the iPhone purchase...and went through itunes and started downloading apps...from the appstore i've found a total of maybe 10 apps i liked...one's i'd actually use with any regularity? probably less than 5
I have HD and I played with iPhone 3G for couple days. Since I have SPB Mobile Shell 3 installed, iPhone's UI did not impress me at all. It was innovative old days, but now it seems dated.
It is fun to go through tons of apps in AppStore, but not that much useful and serious apps. But I have as much fun at ppcwarez Games are much better on iPhone. That is it. I really did not feel better responsiveness from iPhone. May be because I have custom ROM on HD. What I really like is that there are so many cool accessories for iPhone here in US, and almost nothing for HD
Anyway ... iPhone is good device. But ... I will never trade my HD for iPhone. I like customizations and that I can make my HD look and behave EXACTLY as I want. Looking forward for HD2.
i think you should wait for SE xperia3 (aka Rachael ) which will give you Android OS with 1GHz Snapdragon cpu, 4" capacitive touch screen and 8mp camera.
i own touch HD and ipod touch 3g (which is superior than iphone 3gs), and believe me, it won't provide you so much excitation.
converts
I have successfully converted 3 iphone users to hd htc after they saw it. All are current Windows users and felt that the combination of phone and os was a go. The fact that they all had to buy iphones locked to a carrier was also cause for them to deflect. Granted, the OS on the iphone is pretty nice but that's where it ends. Most people who see the HD are blown away by the screen, reoslution etc. Looking forward to HD2...
The HD was my Original chosen phone when upgrading in January. I had not even looked at an Iphone.
I was then given an offer my a relative of 30% discount for life on my O2 contract with an Iphone. I also had a free 16GB White Iphone.
I even Jailbroke it, my daughter got one too. After 9 Months I could not bear it anymore. They are a Wonderful piece of technology and design, but I had had enough.
Gone is the Iphone, and daughter too. I now have the HD, which I wish I had 9 months ago. Daughter has a Samsung Jet.
No more Iphone, Itunes. In are Bluetooth files a good camera themes and many more.
Chill.....
I've got both. Yep the iphone just works well-its perfect for my wife and kids. Now that you can cut and paste and have mms and video its a no brainer.
but
I really like the way you can customise with the HD and the screen is way better in clarity! The HD2 will be a no brainer for me-but my wife would never give up her iphone.
So-different horses for different courses.
i've had the HD for six months now, and the lack of games was almost enough to make me consider a switch this week.
I'm not huge for games, but there is nothing that holds my attention on the Tube, and now I see Red Alert comes out on iPhone this week!
Even a basic DOS emulator for the Touch HD, with a soft-button overlay, would be enough for me - for games like RA and GTA2.
The Qualcomm driver situation is also enough to make me look around more when my contract is up. And I sorely miss the Sony Ericsson cameras on their phones.
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i think you should wait for SE xperia3 (aka Rachael ) which will give you Android OS with 1GHz Snapdragon cpu, 4" capacitive touch screen and 8mp camera.
i own touch HD and ipod touch 3g (which is superior than iphone 3gs), and believe me, it won't provide you so much excitation.
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not particularly impressed by Android, but i am interested in why you think the iPod Touch 3g is better than the iPhone 3gs, i've actually been considering doing that, keeping the HD and getting the iPod Touch.
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not particularly impressed by Android, but i am interested in why you think the iPod Touch 3g is better than the iPhone 3gs, i've actually been considering doing that, keeping the HD and getting the iPod Touch.
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i said superior because they (3gs and ipod touch 3g) have same processor but 3gs' is underclocked to 600MHz due to battery and heat issues while itouch 3g's cpu is remained unchanged (i.e original 833MHz).
Apple provides no information on the processor used in the iPod touch 3G models, but third-party "teardowns" indicate that the 32 GB and 64 GB configurations use an Apple branded Samsung ARM processor running at 800 MHz (the same processor used by the iPhone 3GS, but not downclocked to preserve battery life).
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Original article :
Code:
http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/consumer_electronics/stats/ipod-touch-3g-specs.html
also, u can see the speed comparison between them
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http://www.vimeo.com/6534126
there, u'll see itouch 3g is a little faster (for seconds) than 3gs.
smeddy said:
i've had the HD for six months now, and the lack of games was almost enough to make me consider a switch this week.
I'm not huge for games, but there is nothing that holds my attention on the Tube, and now I see Red Alert comes out on iPhone this week!
Even a basic DOS emulator for the Touch HD, with a soft-button overlay, would be enough for me - for games like RA and GTA2.
The Qualcomm driver situation is also enough to make me look around more when my contract is up. And I sorely miss the Sony Ericsson cameras on their phones.
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I always find it amusing when people get annoyed with the games available for the HD..........Its a business man's/women's phone aimed at business people. It was never supposed to compete with the iphone on games. It you want to play games, buy a console.
Do you think the HTC HD" will be the first iPhone killer?
Think its a different beast - but yes for me it does what I need to do better than the Iphone. Iphone is good for toys but not for business and multimedia
No, they're targeting different markets. Windows Mobile is for technology geeks only; the iPhone is aimed at normal people. I think some of the coming-soon high-end Android devices might be a better match for the iPhone - things like the Motorola Droid, Acer Liquid and (perhaps especially) the HTC Dragon.
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Do you think the HTC HD" will be the first iPhone killer?
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this is very personal, at least to me, from the start, iPhone is just not for me, it is kinda gadget to me more than a proper phone and it has apps restriction for me but HTC with WM gives me everything I need. HTC Touch HD has already been iPhone killer to me. I know I'm giving comment too personally, but here are my preferences that why iPhone never been too good for me:
1: iPhone can't switch battery, very often it will run out of battery in the middle of something really busy
2. less display resolution and smaller even though the display look stunning
3. doesn't have Garmin and no support for the best map (Garmin format) in my country
4. I prefer expandable memory cards
5. front camera even though HD2 doesn't have one too, what a huge disappointment, but not a deal breaker to me
6. HTC has great support and great fun with many cooked roms to play here, what about iphone?
7. smaller screen with iphone which make me find it difficult with lot of errors when entering texts as multi touch require finger flesh instead of nails pin- pointing with resistive screen. Though multi touch feels real awesome and ultra responsive. Now the HD2 is with multitouch too and with bigger screen!
8. I prefer WM OS as it supports more apps and has lots more settings to play with
good point
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this is very personal, at least to me, from the start, iPhone is just not for me, it is kinda gadget to me more than a proper phone and it has apps restriction for me but HTC with WM gives me everything I need. HTC Touch HD has already been iPhone killer to me. I know I'm giving comment too personally, but here are my preferences that why iPhone never been too good for me:
1: iPhone can't switch battery, very often it will run out of battery in the middle of something really busy
2. less display resolution and smaller even though the display look stunning
3. doesn't have Garmin and no support for the best map (Garmin format) in my country
4. I prefer expandable memory cards
5. front camera even though HD2 doesn't have one too, what a huge disappointment, but not a deal breaker to me
6. HTC has great support and great fun with many cooked roms to play here, what about iphone?
7. smaller screen with iphone which make me find it difficult with lot of errors when entering texts as multi touch require finger flesh instead of nails pin- pointing with resistive screen. Though multi touch feels real awesome and ultra responsive. Now the HD2 is with multitouch too and with bigger screen!
8. I prefer WM OS as it supports more apps and has lots more settings to play with
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I feel pretty much the same way indeed...
I hope not. Would not like to have anything that resembled the iPhone.
Yes, when the Leo comes out the iPhone will be killed, and will die.
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Yes, when the Leo comes out the iPhone will be killed, and will die.
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^^^ What he said.
As good as I think the HTC Leo is, it's not going to kill the iPhone (I've preordered a Leo btw).
Still a long way to go .... just ask the average joe ...and I think 7 out of 10 would have never heard of HTC, let alone HTC HD2 (well...it's like this in Australia at least).
why does the iphone need to die anyway? Completely different market and significant difference in usability.
iphone, lots of downloadable apps for just about anything, viewable screen in sunlight, locked into mother apple. No multitasking or customization (unless jail broke).....oh, and did I mention you get what apple says you get?
Leo (or any Winmo smartphone) Strong Windows base, tons of flexibility (esp thanks to xda), tons of apps, many free/donationware (esp thanks to xda), hugo-montenagro screen, (hopefully) viewable in sunlight, multitasking galore (esp with 320MB RAM)....and did I mention the excellent support here at xda?
iphone will not be going away soon..and who gives a crap?
HTC HD2 reviewed, “… makes Apple phone suddenly look very old.”
related article: http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=9399
For goodness sake! Not all this 'IPhone killer' nonsense again!
Every time a new phone comes out (HTC Touch, Touch HD, HD2, Hero, whatever!) some people think that the existence of the new phone will 'kill' the iPhone... ridiculous!
They will COMPETE with each other, not kill each other.
Some people may get an HD2 over an Iphone due to bigger high-res screen, or some other feature they appreciate, others will prefer the Iphone because they like stupid games or something.
The TP2 is serious competition for the Iphone, though the devices do appeal to differing markets, with significant overlap. The iPhone will probably still be a better toy, and the TP2 a better productivity device.
Leo will kill all iPhones. The iPhone as a phone will DIE. This is final.
Guys, what you mean by iphone killer?
- if you mean "much better performance&****" - then yes is an iPhone killer. Even HTC HD is an iPhone killer. You must be blind not to see that or fanatic (brainless). Of course other phones were HD Killer and so on.
- if you mean "after HD2 no one will buy an iPhone" - then is wrong. iPhone have a different target - people who what to be fancy and who were not able to have a personal point of view - they think only what the masses think.
In my country we saying "if fox does not reach the apple it says it is sour".
Stay for a second and think - your opinion must represent your desire or must represent manufactor desire? In first case you have brain, in second case you have brain only if you gain somthening from manufactor, otherwise your are stupid/fanatic.
Think about that!
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Yes, when the Leo comes out the iPhone will be killed, and will die.
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I assumed that was sarcasm...
DavidMc0 said:
For goodness sake! Not all this 'IPhone killer' nonsense again!
Every time a new phone comes out (HTC Touch, Touch HD, HD2, Hero, whatever!) some people think that the existence of the new phone will 'kill' the iPhone... ridiculous!
They will COMPETE with each other, not kill each other.
Some people may get an HD2 over an Iphone due to bigger high-res screen, or some other feature they appreciate, others will prefer the Iphone because they like stupid games or something.
The TP2 is serious competition for the Iphone, though the devices do appeal to differing markets, with significant overlap. The iPhone will probably still be a better toy, and the TP2 a better productivity device.
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Sorry, but someone's got to say something here and it might as wek be me. You're never going to be a proper fanboy for either side if you insist on using all that logic and common sense nonsense.
Ignore the facts, put on the blinkers, drink the kool-aid, and then you're going to fail as a clueless fanboy. Pick a side, spout as much biased tripe as you can, and join in the fun!
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Some people may get an HD2 over an Iphone due to bigger high-res screen, or some other feature they appreciate, others will prefer the Iphone because they like stupid games or something.
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I don't fully agree with that because I know quite a lot of WinMo users that have moved to iPhone because of the "poor & complicated" interface.
Multitouch capacitive sceen, and TF3D last generation, power of the snapdragon, ability to read divx video without re-encoding might bring them back on track to WinMo.
It is true that there is at leat one PDA that match every user needs, but there are some that could match alomost all.
Leo surely is one of them,...
ffs, why does anyone even care????????
if you like the iphone..buy it!!
if you like a WM phone..buy one!!
why spend hours debating which one will 'kill' the other one. seriously, who gives a crap!!
some people will ALWAYS say that the iphone is the best...some people will ALWAYS say that WM rocks....those people are basing their decisions on what they want from the phone....it's an emotive issue, and a complete waste of time and effort.
Finally
After all that have been said in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=580981
I think we have an answer don't you think?
I say hell no, but it is pretty close. If you want to go WM for some reason, then any WM device is iPhone killer. But this WM device is first which has similar wow-effect as iPhone, when you take it in your hands.
I had a chance to download Guitar Hero 5 for the iPhone 3GS today.
After checking out this game (and obviously a host of others), why in the world are games so much more cleaning, crisper and less drag then on the HD2? The HD2 has the bigger, faster hardware with a higher end screen.
CAn you someone shed some light on why the games are just horrible on the HD2 (al la PS1/NES/SNES graphics) whereas the iPhone with its less then higher hardware performs so much smoother and games look a lot better?
I read somewhere that winmo 6.5 is limited to output display which may very well have everything to do with the weak graphics. I don't know
Thoughts appreciated
lazy developers
Well, there's the obvious reason why it's better. The touch screen on the HD2 sucks, this is vital part of the gaming experience.
the touch screen has nothing to do with the quality of the graphics, and as for using it once you get the hang of your screen its just as good as any other, practice!
im gonna agree with above post, the developers probably did a piss poor job just to get it out of the door, if its not optimized for the hardware we have then its not going to work, an you can bet it will be optimized for the iphone with all its publicity.
think of it like an old computer game thats not using SSE or HT&L, gonna be a huge drag on performance but it will work
Windows Mobile devices have all different hardware. Some prefer snapdragon, while other uses another arm chip. Then you have different graphics chips. One more powerfull the the other. In the end, it would be impossible to optimize games to run on every winmo device. iPhone for example, doesn;t have these obstacles. So it's pretty fair to say that it is because of the many, many differnt winmo devices with all different hardware.
Try Rockband instead it is far superior!!! UI is great, game runs fluid, controls are awesome, game has MUCH more content...
Only fail: you need internetconnection to play it.
Greets
you are right.. games on winmo SUCKS.. i have iphone 3g also. Hd2 is better than iphone in all other aspects than GAMES.. Playing Games on Iphone is a Fun.. you can show off the games.. graphics, sound everything is good.
But on HD2 or any other winmo .. Games quality is Like DOS PROMPT GAME.. Sucks in graphics .. even Games available with HD version like assassin creeds, Need for speed, Ferrari gt.. All comes with Stupid HD graphics..
only Bubble breaker n solitaire got good quality in graphics lolz
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Windows Mobile devices have all different hardware. Some prefer snapdragon, while other uses another arm chip. Then you have different graphics chips. One more powerfull the the other. In the end, it would be impossible to optimize games to run on every winmo device. iPhone for example, doesn;t have these obstacles. So it's pretty fair to say that it is because of the many, many differnt winmo devices with all different hardware.
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Not that I have used or have ever owned an iPhone, but maybe, just maybe this is one of the advantages of the tied down system the iPhone employs. This is the the same tied down system that most on this forum moan on and on about.
The majority of iPhone users want games...... not so many wm users give a toss about games....
easier to develop for iPhone etc etc..... its probably all got something to with why moss only grows on the south side of a tree trunk and cows have seven stomachs.......
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The majority of iPhone users want games...... not so many wm users give a toss about games....
easier to develop for iPhone etc etc..... its probably all got something to with why moss only grows on the south side of a tree trunk and cows have seven stomachs.......
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HD2 can have amazing game graphics even better then the iPhone, just follow the following simple steps!
1.Install an Android ROM
2.Run the Android on HD2
3.Now Play HD games
you can run android on the hd2???
well you learn something new every day
xda2_haseeb said:
HD2 can have amazing game graphics even better then the iPhone, just follow the following simple steps!
1.Install an Android ROM
2.Run the Android on HD2
3.Now Play HD games
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Yeah - I'm playing games now like I was a kid again! Having used WM for years, I can't believe the difference in the quality of the games and apps in general.
The HD2 has the power to deliver, it's just that the OS can't. Which is now why I'm running Android 90% of the time.
Towserspvm2000 said:
Yeah - I'm playing games now like I was a kid again! Having used WM for years, I can't believe the difference in the quality of the games and apps in general.
The HD2 has the power to deliver, it's just that the OS can't. Which is now why I'm running Android 90% of the time.
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Would you be so kind as to recommend a good build???
Im using ENergy ROM - Reference
rmdeathwish said:
Would you be so kind as to recommend a good build???
Im using ENergy ROM - Reference
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For Android, I'm running "Mdeejay_FroYo_Sense_v._2.3_Clean", which is now at 2.4 (which I haven't tried yet) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=780525
For WM, I'm running this one http://hotfile.com/dl/83789233/d43c2d7/Energy.Leo.23148.Sense2.5.Cookie.2.0.Nov.19.7z.html
hey, saw your thread, and I was just wondering about how many people do you guys think abandoned HD2 for WINMO without knowing the fact that HD2 has been running ANdroid for 6 months now... And today it is perfect. Install latest radio, VBN CLEAN ROM and Mdeejay 2.3 sense clean and I get 40HRS BAttery life.
hrm, Thats Windows Mobile my friend.
You want a real OS? go to the Android section on this forum and get any of the vast amazing Android Roms available.
Right now, builds are 99% Perfect.
Using http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=823491 atm, Battery last way longer than it did in WM, phone is WAY faster and the amount of apps you can get... pffft.
Do you want to see all the Androids Runs available?
Check this out: http://android.hd2roms.com/ Sort em by Updated.
I must say I was a big-time Windows Mobile fan, but after trying out Android and all it offers, I'm not coming back to WM ever again.
GL.
conantroutman said:
you can run android on the hd2???
well you learn something new every day
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Yeah it does!! Like it was built for it!
Towserspvm2000 said:
Yeah - I'm playing games now like I was a kid again! Having used WM for years, I can't believe the difference in the quality of the games and apps in general.
The HD2 has the power to deliver, it's just that the OS can't. Which is now why I'm running Android 90% of the time.
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I dont think its the WM that lacks but i think its the WM Game Developers that lack, if you player NFS Shift, Real Soccer 2010 HF on your WM HD2 you would know that its pretty much HD like Sony PSP or PC so Windows Mobile was always capable of that but our developers are the ones which lack the capability
its probably all got something to with why moss only grows on the south side of a tree trunk
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*COUGH*... The north side...
thats not always the case, and also try the games on android on the hd2 i think its better than iphone
Airborne Aircrew said:
*COUGH*... The north side...
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I knew that lol.... just testing you all........
Glad to see somebodys paying attention
as the title goes. i have had this thing sibce it came out and i have had to so much to make it decent. with such great hardware, why does it lack great looking games? i had an iphone 3g and its games are great. i mean my hd2 is more powerfull than that and its games look worse than iphone. why?
firebadbobb said:
as the title goes. i have had this thing sibce it came out and i have had to so much to make it decent. with such great hardware, why does it lack great looking games? i had an iphone 3g and its games are great. i mean my hd2 is more powerfull than that and its games look worse than iphone. why?
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WinMo
If HTC would rerelease HD2 as a rebranded Android phone, this phone would sell like hotcakes considering that it is now a free phone.
Shame to hear you are disappointed, I only can say good things about my Leo
I guess each one has very different experiences regarding same device
id have to agree with jerryparid. the hd2 in general is an awesome piece of kit, purely let down by the OS.
running linux, and android, this thing is a little beaut! (thanks to the guys in the forum for making that a possibility)
Actually the PSX games run so smooth (60fps) on the HD2 the games on the HD2 blow away the games on other systems. I was shocked when I saw the PSX emulator on the HD2. Ran better then a real PSX. Plus you can actually hook up a PS3 BT controller to it and game with a real pad I say HD2 gaming is far far superior to iphone or android. Native games don't seem to have much development because 1. WP7 is coming and will bump specs up really high. Its easy to dev for a small number of phones with limited specs, but WM has 1000's of phones a year come out with specs of all types from 200mhz to 1ghz. If you were to really develop a real game like the iphone for WM you would only have like 4 phones that could run it. Then the 1000 phones that couldn't run it would all be pissed. With iphone they all have the same 1 phone so thats not an issue. With android the oldest phone is a year old so their specs are more refined. Hope this explains how to get better games you will be happy with and why there aren't as many great native games on WM. Once you get the proper rom loaded and it tweaked right the HD2 kicks ass and is super stable. I hope you put the work in to get yours where you need it. If you do I'm sure you will be very happy with it and can hold out till we get a working copy of Android on it.
firebadbobb said:
as the title goes. i have had this thing sibce it came out and i have had to so much to make it decent. with such great hardware, why does it lack great looking games? i had an iphone 3g and its games are great. i mean my hd2 is more powerfull than that and its games look worse than iphone. why?
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because you haven't found the good games yet
Leo is the best phone/pda I've owned and knocks the socks off the iphone
yeah i forgot to mention the ps1 emulator. it does run well. that is always the main program i show to new people.i never thought of the dev side to things. good point. i still wonder why the lack of exclusive games though. speaking of wm7, i hear its up in the air whether or not we get that upgrade. sorry bout typos. i am using it right now to post.
yeah, i know this is the wrong section for what im about to ask but, im getting replies here. i made a thread but nio one is biting. is there a way to install hspl without a pc? my pc died and i have to goti my moms house 30 mins away to gain access to one. again sorry for asking in wrong place.
WTF are you people on about??? talk about fanboys lol the powervr gpu in the iphone kicks the ass out of adreno lol it can do over 50 million triangles a second more as far as processing power goes snapdragon kicks the ass out of the apple a4 but then again my desire kick the ass out of ur HD's lol
hey man im not trying to turn this thread into a flamewar. why you gotta throw out the fanboy word? lol. i was trying to figure out y the iphone produces great looking games and our hd2s dont have much. btw i found diablo for my phone lol
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hey man im not trying to turn this thread into a flamewar. why you gotta throw out the fanboy word? lol. i was trying to figure out y the iphone produces great looking games and our hd2s dont have much. btw i found diablo for my phone lol
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well its true lol if your gunna have debate you need to base it on fact not what device is your fave the iphone has better games because its gpu is alot more powerful end of, if you wanna know what snapdragon is capable of check out this vid of nova on the desire
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Vn2DuPeE-E
and need for speed shift on the nexus one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfJVqFlVAtE
firebadbobb said:
hey man im not trying to turn this thread into a flamewar. why you gotta throw out the fanboy word? lol. i was trying to figure out y the iphone produces great looking games and our hd2s dont have much. btw i found diablo for my phone lol
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Because you haven't written them yet.
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If HTC would rerelease HD2 as a rebranded Android phone, this phone would sell like hotcakes
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They did, it's called the EVO 4G. And it did sell like hotcakes.
I thought it was a phone, not a gaming console
caise i havent written them yet. lmao. point. yeah i love games. if i can get some good games on here, then i will.
I love my HD2, awesome piece of kit, let down by the OS though!
Yet it still works a treat!
firebadbobb said:
as the title goes. i have had this thing sibce it came out and i have had to so much to make it decent. with such great hardware, why does it lack great looking games? i had an iphone 3g and its games are great. i mean my hd2 is more powerfull than that and its games look worse than iphone. why?
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It's as some of the others say, it's an OS-level problem. iOS simply allows for much better game design, which is why games on iPhone tend to look better than they do on other smartphone OSes.
WinMo is a very established OS, but without a good underlying design, programing something spectacular for it is very tough. This is not a problem exclusive to WinMo, but I think WinMo epitomizes the problem very well. When your OS requires a 1Ghz CPU just to get anywhere close to the smoothness of a phone using a 412Mhz CPU, there is a serious problem.
When your OS requires phone manufacturers to develop custom UIs to make usability better, there is an even worse problem.
the phone hardware? is great....
BUUUT what makes the phone suck-monkey balls b/c window period!
i love window to stay within the pc world not cell-phone!
conquer anyone?
I have a PSP to play video games with. thats not what i do with my phone.
dowwin said:
the phone hardware? is great....
BUUUT what makes the phone suck-monkey balls b/c window period!
i love window to stay within the pc world not cell-phone!
conquer anyone?
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I very recently bought a TP2 and a HD2.
Despite the noticeably slower Sense and smaller screen I'll be keeping the TP2 and selling the HD2.
I still feel keyboard is a massive win over touch screen & Swype.
Also I've not been to impressed with the stability of big time roms for the HD2 so I've only been using official roms.