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Hi,
I'm new to this forum so i'd like to say hello to everybody first
I have a g1 with the screen cracked. When I say the screen is cracked I mean that upper glass area; The lcd does not seem to be cracked in any way so there is no bleeding at all. Touch still works very well even in the cracked area.
I seem to have come across only 1 ebay auction that was selling a digitizer and everywere is absurdly expensive to buy. Any ideas where i can find one ? At 189$ i'm half way to buying a new phone tbh.
Also I saw in this forum that some people had the same problem and people told them that they would need to replace both lcd AND digitizer, however i clearly saw in the htc dream service manual that they are two separate parts with separate part numbers. Is there some particular reason for this ?
Just to clarify, can any tell me the order in which components are placed in the htc g1 ? Im assuming they are as follows:
Touch Screen Digitizer
LCD Screen
cover and hinge
in that order..Am I right in my assumption ?
Thanks,
Mewt
Bump. I would like to know as well.
Check it out:
This listing just got put up on eBay today. This guy has 50 digitizers for sale:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=230336383436
If you are sure the LCD is intact, you should just buy the Digitizer. The LCD can easily be seen by opening up the phone.
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-T-MOBILE-GO...5|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318|301:1|293:1|294:50
I can confirm you can replace the digitizer WITHOUT replacing the lcd.
I just did it. A car ran over my G1 a while ago and I've been lurking on ebay ever since waiting for digitizers to be listed. With a new digitizer, a Torx screwdriver and about an hour I have just replaced the broken one and the new one works perfectly.
Of course that also means I now have a spare G1 since I bought another one in case I couldn't get a replacement.
I will be doing the same shortly.
Actually this is the best price I have found on a digitizer
http://www.perfectesell.com/gog1glscdico.html
Any tips on replacing the part? Does the phone have to come completely apart?
I can't buy from that buyer as he doesn't ship to Malta but thanks, now I know what I need to look for and will be doing so. Hope I can get my g1 working well again...I just hate trying to read messages with cracks in them
Thanks all for your replies
Its quite fiddly but as long as you have the manual you should be okay.
There's a few things tho. Page 23 doesn't really show you how to disconnect the camera very well. On the underside of the main board there is a connector like the one for the screen. It is released by flipping the paddle lever think 90 degrees down. Otherwise the camera connector gets pulled out when you remove the mainboard.
It should go without saying you don't need to disassemble the bottom "chin" part when you remove it. Oh and page 24 has an error, those aren't the 2 screws you need to remove, its 2 long ones, one is in the top right of that picture on page 24 the other is to the right of the one circled.
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Its quite fiddly but as long as you have the manual you should be okay.
There's a few things tho. Page 23 doesn't really show you how to disconnect the camera very well. On the underside of the main board there is a connector like the one for the screen. It is released by flipping the paddle lever think 90 degrees down. Otherwise the camera connector gets pulled out when you remove the mainboard.
It should go without saying you don't need to disassemble the bottom "chin" part when you remove it. Oh and page 24 has an error, those aren't the 2 screws you need to remove, its 2 long ones, one is in the top right of that picture on page 24 the other is to the right of the one circled.
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hey would you say the average person would be able to change the digitizer or do you have to be a handy man.. taking anybodys replys ONLY if you''ve done it
Well I guess I am the average person but then I've taken many a pc and laptop apart and put it back together again so maybe not...
There's nothing that requires great skill in it. As long as you're gentle, patient and careful (taking apart a G1 is like making love to a beautiful woman...). Keep track of what screws came from where and don't try and force anything.
Remember you need some torx head screwdrivers. but you can get these on ebay for very little.
I have to admit I feel a bit smug when I see forum posts from people who advise you sent it back to T-Mo and pay a $100+ excess for them to do it. As if!
Ah, my screen is just gently scratched, but it's annoying sometimes. I might look at into this if it gets any worse.
Just looking at the back of the screen when the G1 is open, it looks like I'd have to take the whole phone apart...are there guides I can look at?
Here is some sites that helped me out.
This is an easy to ready explanation to what you are looking at.
http://www.phonewreck.com/wiki/index.php?title=T-Mobile_G1
This is where I found the service manual a while back
http://www.intomobile.com/2008/12/18/dissect-your-t-mobile-g1-with-the-htc-dream-service-manual.html
This was where you can find the digitizer. (I dunno which one it is... but I think its the clearpad) only thing I could not find a match on part numbers anywhere
http://www.synaptics.com/solutions/products
And this is the address and Houston local number for HTC America. (i didnt check the number so i'm 72.34763% sure its right(just do a little social engineering to get to where you need to be.) )
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&i...-95.551229&spn=0.009187,0.015986&z=16&iwloc=A
same boat here. cracked digitizer. seems like the g1 is the only phone, for which you can't buy one.
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Well I guess I am the average person but then I've taken many a pc and laptop apart and put it back together again so maybe not...
There's nothing that requires great skill in it. As long as you're gentle, patient and careful (taking apart a G1 is like making love to a beautiful woman...). Keep track of what screws came from where and don't try and force anything.
Remember you need some torx head screwdrivers. but you can get these on ebay for very little.
I have to admit I feel a bit smug when I see forum posts from people who advise you sent it back to T-Mo and pay a $100+ excess for them to do it. As if!
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hey i have a question i replace my digitizer but now the bottom part of the touch screen... closest to the menu button doesnt work. what do you think can be wrong
Pull it apart again using the service guide section 2.2.3 and make sure all connections have complete contact. If something is not sitting right the circuit may not be ringing out correctly. Once you have gone through all the steps 2.3.2(lcm assembly) and everything looks connected properly, assemble, reboot and test. If it is not fixed you may have a bad digitizer I'm hoping for the fact that most of your screen is working its just a connection problem.
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Its quite fiddly but as long as you have the manual you should be okay.
There's a few things tho. Page 23 doesn't really show you how to disconnect the camera very well. On the underside of the main board there is a connector like the one for the screen. It is released by flipping the paddle lever think 90 degrees down. Otherwise the camera connector gets pulled out when you remove the mainboard.
It should go without saying you don't need to disassemble the bottom "chin" part when you remove it. Oh and page 24 has an error, those aren't the 2 screws you need to remove, its 2 long ones, one is in the top right of that picture on page 24 the other is to the right of the one circled.
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When you reassembled what did you do about the tape and gaskets? Were you able to buy new or did you use something else? Thanks!
Matt
s02mike said:
Here is some sites that helped me out.
This is an easy to ready explanation to what you are looking at.
http://www.phonewreck.com/wiki/index.php?title=T-Mobile_G1
This is where I found the service manual a while back
http://www.intomobile.com/2008/12/18/dissect-your-t-mobile-g1-with-the-htc-dream-service-manual.html
This was where you can find the digitizer. (I dunno which one it is... but I think its the clearpad) only thing I could not find a match on part numbers anywhere
http://www.synaptics.com/solutions/products
And this is the address and Houston local number for HTC America. (i didnt check the number so i'm 72.34763% sure its right(just do a little social engineering to get to where you need to be.) )
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&i...-95.551229&spn=0.009187,0.015986&z=16&iwloc=A
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i'm willing to try replacing it myself as well and i was wondering how much your purchased your new digitizer for. would the one suggested earlier at this link: http://www.perfectesell.com/gog1glscdico.html be good? it seems a lot cheaper than other ones and i dont want to buy a faulty and cheap one that may not work as well or break. any other tips would be GREATLY appreciated. TIA!
Here's the correct page on the Perfectesell site:
http://www.perfectesell.com/htcgog1glscd.html
Same price ($65) as the ebay auction that ended.
I dunno what that $12.95 thing was... price doesn't seem right for glass, touch sensing wizardry
mattcairns said:
When you reassembled what did you do about the tape and gaskets? Were you able to buy new or did you use something else? Thanks!
Matt
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Some of the gaskets i didnt fully remove so i just place em down... and some of the tape i didnt reuse.
bloob9 said:
i'm willing to try replacing it myself as well and i was wondering how much your purchased your new digitizer for. would the one suggested earlier at this link: http://www.perfectesell.com/gog1glscdico.html be good? it seems a lot cheaper than other ones and i dont want to buy a faulty and cheap one that may not work as well or break. any other tips would be GREATLY appreciated. TIA!
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I bought my digitizer on ebay for about 25 dollars i think. then i bought the screwdrive kit for 7 dollars also
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Pull it apart again using the service guide section 2.2.3 and make sure all connections have complete contact. If something is not sitting right the circuit may not be ringing out correctly. Once you have gone through all the steps 2.3.2(lcm assembly) and everything looks connected properly, assemble, reboot and test. If it is not fixed you may have a bad digitizer I'm hoping for the fact that most of your screen is working its just a connection problem.
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thanx i took it apart again and that fixed it... i have 2 more problems 1 major 1 not. i dont know but i normally got 3g service in my house and now i dont what could b the problem.
second is that the screen doesnt swivel smoothy as before
** UPDATE ** FFC works on the Vibrant!!
LINK: general i9000 disassembly instructions/video here. The camera is popped out at 2:59.
Over on the Vibrant forum here we're working on getting an FFC mod. Hardware _seems_ to be settled, with a cheap source for an i9000 cam here that has both the RFC and FFC, with the RFC working after the mod. No telling if the FFC will ever work yet.
But I noticed today when at Best Buy the Fascinate has a flash. Has anyone taken a Fascinate apart to see if the flash is connected to the RFC? There are pics in the Vibrant thread showing part of the PCB just below the RFC. Not sure where the Fascinate flash sits.
Pics would be great if anyone is willing to do a quick disassembly. This is one of the easiest phone pop-aparts I've ever had.
Thanks.
funny I was just reading that forum... Seems like a pretty slick idea and would be great if it worked with the Fascinate. Another point to consider, if anyone IS willing to start disassembling their Fascinate and puts some pics up, is that if the LED flash is NOT connect to the RFC then the fine folks here on XDA may just figure out how to give the i9000, Vibrant, Captivate and Epic a Flash of their own...
Edit:
I decided to take the plunge in starting this and it looks to be pretty much the same process as the i9000 for removing the back plastic covering but after getting the screws out (I have a couple of screws loose, myself) and tinkering with the darned plastic for 20 minutes I've given up for the night. I managed to add a few cosmetic markings to my phone that will slowly give it character... I need to figure out a better tool for this.
We still need a booting kernal
I know you all in the Fascinate camp are behind us in the Vibrant camp, but we were in your shoes just a month or two ago. Things move fast.
I may get a cousin a Fascinate, and an FFC would seal it.
I don't know about this. I have a hunch this may only work on the vibrant since the bodies of both the i9000 and the vibrant are almost exactly the same. I hope I'm wrong though cause a FFC would be awesome! xD
If anyone could try this out it would be great..
I will give a try tomorrow and post pics after I get home from school. Wish me luck
The Captivate chassis is different and will not accept this simple drop in mod. But we need a Fascinate volunteer to do this to see.
This would be a nice upgrade.....
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ytj87 said:
The Captivate chassis is different and will not accept this simple drop in mod. But we need a Fascinate volunteer to do this to see.
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Im about to go ahead with opening my phone. Any tips for me before i do?
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Im about to go ahead with opening my phone. Any tips for me before i do?
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I've opened it before, it's almost exactly the same as opening the international version. I would recommend never using metal tools (like a screw driver) to pop the plastic...literally all I did was unscrew all of the screws on the back, then ran a fingernail on the side of the phone between the front side [with the screen] and the silver/fake chrome which runs all the way around the phone (there's a crease there and the plastic inside backing and the front are held together with clips).
It should come apart fairly easily. I did not get any farther than that, because I was just looking at the volume rocker; but, the chips and things could just be unplugged and pulled up.
What is this then...???
So I am confused, can anyone shed some light on this for me....
Looking at the front of my Fascinate, it looks as if there is definetly a camera in there. Did Verizon just not enable it and lock it down, or is there not one in there and I am seeing things?
I look at the spot just to the left of the speaker at the top and it looks just like a camera and maybe a flash for that camera?
Anyone want to tell me what it is that I am looking at?
Thanks,
Jacob
You are looking at the proximity censor which turns the screen off whenever you have something on top of it that covers light entry (like being on a call)
its not a camera.
And additionally, we do not have a hole specifically made for FFC, would we have to scratch one on the front to make the camera usable?
Right next to the earpiece you'll see an oval cutout that seems like it has a camera and flash....
jv
johnnyv5 said:
Right next to the earpiece you'll see an oval cutout that seems like it has a camera and flash....
jv
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As stated above that's just a proximity sensor and light sensor to the left of the speaker. The FFC (if you look at the i9000 or the epic) is to the right.
Any news on this? I have a Vibrant and my GF has a Fascinate.
Maybe I should hop on it as she somehow cracked the screen and we'll be taking it apart to fix that anyways.
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Any news on this?
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Sadly its a no go.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8864552&postcount=35
What a blueballer... Is there anything else we can do? I really want a front facing camera on my cellular south showcase.
holy necro batman. and the answer is no...
what a shame.
Hi Guys,
Took the liberty of doing a teardown for all of you.
For those following along at home:
Take off the back plate, remove the battery and the SIM card.
Remove all screws (4 on the bottom, 2 in the middle and 2 at the top. Be careful not to strip them!)
Using a guitar pick or case opening tool, remove the bottom plastic piece of the phone. Start at the top edges where the plastic meets the side.
Using the same tool, remove the top plastic piece of the phone. This is incredibly tricky! There are 4 plastic clips on the back and 4 on the front, it is also held in place by adhesive. It wasn't incredibly hard to get off, but insane to get back on (I broke mine trying to get it back on and glued it into place)
Using the clearance given to you by removing the top and bottom pieces, slide the case tool/guitar pick down the side and pop the phone apart. This sometimes requires quite a bit of force and a bigger guitar pick.
Remove the back plate and see this...(image 16 on attachments, I can't post links yet ) Pop off the ribbon cables indicated at the boxes using the tool. Lift the main board assembly out of the phone.
The main board is two levels and held together by thermal adhesive. Slide a guitar pick in between the two levels to carefully break them apart, taking into note that they are connected via a ribbon cable which needs to be removed once they are unglued from one another. This is the top level with the heat shields removed: (image 5 on attachments). The bottom with the heat shields removed reveals the main board. The front of this board is picture 3, the back is picture 7.
Remove the two black screws at the top and use your tool to unclick all the clips on the two sides of the shield. Ensure to remove the antenna cable before lifting it out. When removed, the shield is in picture 9.
Picture 10, screen assembly
Picture 12 is the two top and bottom caps
Picture 6 is the first plastic piece you remove once you take out the screws and the caps.
Conclusions: The Optimus uses 16 GB soldered on HYNIX NAND for storage, and not a SD slot like many of the other manufacturers opted for. I have no idea what the 3rd "dot" is on the light sensors on the front, but unless it is the smallest camera ever created, I sincerely doubt it is a front facing camera. (top left of picture 9).
Thanks for reading and I hope this helps some of you guys do repairs/make a device purchasing decision! Feel free to ask me any questions.
Amazing. And to think I spent the last five hours looking for a teardown (see the button problem thread ). Thank you so much for this. I have one question. Were you able to take off the front keys, specifically, the start key? And does everything work again after putting it together again, if you have done so already?
So the start key is separate and comes out when disassembling. The buttons appear to be part of the screen unit and come out easily. The phone went back together perfectly, the top plastic piece is impossibly hard to reattach and i broke a couple of tabs off. It basically has to bend back into place, very frustrating.
Thanks Andrew. Good one. I was able to use your image to share in one of the post the part that was changed when i had a Bluetooth problem.
Thank you, thank you, thank you. We finally know. I'm not sure why I wanted to know so badly, but I just did. I am pleased to hear that LG opted for the all NAND solution and 16GB. Bravo.
I wonder whether MS has some kind of restriction that if you had no SD slot at all it needed to have a least 16GB?
great stuff
has anyone worked out what the 3rd dot/hole is for yet?
what do you mean by 3rd dot / hole? Which image is that?
hi gurucanto
sorry i couldn't actually locate it in the pics there...probably just me being dense.
but it's on the faceplate where the other sensors are. there's proximity, light and ?
3 holes
It is in picture 9, the top left black piece is the ambient light sensors, and there is a 3rd sensor of some kind there. If it is a front facing camera, it is really, really, really small for a camera sensor.
Can you post the part number of the Hynix NAND? It would be interesting to compare the specs with an SD card.
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Can you post the part number of the Hynix NAND? It would be interesting to compare the specs with an SD card.
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would be nice to know.
sdcard performance looks pathetic.............
Windows Phone 7 Samsung Omnia 7 vs HTC 7 Trophy vs LG Optimus 7: Performance comparison
Don't have the phone anymore guys, sorry! Can't post beyond what is already here.
Has anyone figured out what the third sensor is?
Hi guys, first of all I want to post two links that refer to the schematic of LG optimus 7 e900 and e900h... maybe can be useful (you can understand what sensors do).
Because I'm under 8 posts so I can't directly post links... see the attached file
Now a question
I just broken my digitizer I bought a new one on ebay. The only thing I'm not really sure is: HOW DO I REMOVE THE TOP CAP? I watched all the pictures but I'm so scared of break it!
Thank you guys
ripp3r said:
Hi guys, first of all I want to post two links that refer to the schematic of LG optimus 7 e900 and e900h... maybe can be useful (you can understand what sensors do).
Because I'm under 8 posts so I can't directly post links... see the attached file
Now a question
I just broken my digitizer I bought a new one on ebay. The only thing I'm not really sure is: HOW DO I REMOVE THE TOP CAP? I watched all the pictures but I'm so scared of break it!
Thank you guys
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WOW! :O
Those manuals is amazingly detailed.
Oh, and if by the cap, you are referring to the black plastic that also has the power button, then it is held in place with hinges, and I think the OP also broke it while he was taking it apart, so I am not sure what the safest way would be...perhaps use an iPod opening tool? Definitely want to stay away from metal tools...
I can't post links yet (commmmmoooooon) but if you want go to ebay.it (italy) and type this: VETRO SCHERMO TOCH SCREEN VETRINO LG E900 OPTIMUS 7
So you can see what I bought... as you can see there's not the top cap, but if I'll be gentle with it... I shouldn't break it
Anyway thanks for your reply
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Can you post the part number of the Hynix NAND? It would be interesting to compare the specs with an SD card.
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According to the pics in the service manual that ripp3r posted earlier the part number of the NAND is: H8BES0UU0MCA or H8BESOUUOMCA (zero or O )
But inside of the document when searching for Hynix I found some another part number:
H8BES0UU0MCR-4EM (NAND 4G / DDR SDRAM 4G ( Hynix)) and
H8BES0UU0MCR-4EMNAND/4GSDRAM/4G(2G*2/32bit)1.7VTO1.9V13.0x10.5
x1.2TR137P---HYNIXSEMICONDUCTORINC.
Hope I could help
The Hynix is the RAM...the NAND is Toshiba branded...
okay sorry, I was just searching for Hynix. I figured that there was something about SDRAM but that's no reason to feel offended. (if I got the '....' right)
In the replacement list it says: THGBM2G7D4FBAI916GBYTE0VTO0V12.0x16.0x1.2TR169 PMLCNANDBGA TOSHIBAELECTRONICSKOREACORPORATION
So kapanak is of course right with Toshiba because it says 16GB in the name.
LOL! Hahahaha...
The "..." is just a habit I have developed over the years, it meant nothing. My post was completely devoid of any emotional implications. Just stating a fact. And thanks for finding the part number. Now we just need someone to run that through a database and give us an idea of the specifications.
I am about to use some screwdrivers I have in a set to get into my phone to fix the digitizer/to find out if it is broken or just out of place. It's already broken so if I mess up, oh well.
watch the language man.
Better now?
find a disassembly guide and use the right size screwdrivers. electronics companies are notorious for using soft screws that will be near impossible to remove if stripped. post pics if you find anything interesting besides the insides of your hand computer (read:hand cannon)
Dudebowski, I actually found that the chip appears to be slightly damaged and a guy in my city might actually give me a replacement. I missed my hero, glad to see I get to have one again. I still have the disassembled hero on my computer desk though. Lol.
I purchased a used MyTouch 4G that had been dropped and has a cracked digitizer. While disassembling the phone, I came upon a small, clear plastic piece that was lying loose inside. I've looked at a number of disassembly videos, but I don't see this part showing up in any of the videos. I've attached two photos of the part (on top of the phone battery, for reference). The white part on it is a bit of adhesive.
Can anyone help identify this part and where it belongs in the MyTouch 4G?
that looks like it can probably be some thing that goes over one of the lenses. or maybe not for the mt4g at all but for a device that uses a trackball.
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that looks like it can probably be some thing that goes over one of the lenses. or maybe not for the mt4g at all but for a device that uses a trackball.
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Yeah, I think it looks like something that would involve the camera, flash, or light sensor but I can't see where it would fit.
Anyone seen this part during their 4G disassembly?
I've seen that part. I just took one apart last weekend. The same part was in mine, broken into 3 pieces. I have no idea what it was supposed to be doing.
That sort of looks like a spacer of some kind. Maybe something to do with the proximity sensor or the microphone. Not sure exactly what it's purpose is
It doesn't seem like a critical part, but I'd sure like to know where it goes. The size of it seems to preclude it from being mounted along the edge, and there just isn't enough room around the front camera or light sensor for it to fit.
I wish there was a complete part breakdown for this phone. Anyone have their MT4G apart now that could verify this part?
think its a stabilizer for camera..keeps in check
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think its a stabilizer for camera..keeps in check
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Rear camera or front? Any idea how it mounts exactly?
xcguy said:
Rear camera or front? Any idea how it mounts exactly?
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no clue...ive never messed with it..i do know theres a website out there that has manuals for assembly/dissassembly conplete with a parts list. sorry i dont have more info for you
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did you try ifixit or whatever thts site is called?
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I looked at a number of web sites, no one sells the part. And looked at repair videos, never saw that part in any of them. I repaired the phone (new digitizer and keypad) and reassembled without the part, everything works great.
Stuck the mystery part in a bag, maybe someday it will find its home
xcguy said:
I looked at a number of web sites, no one sells the part. And looked at repair videos, never saw that part in any of them. I repaired the phone (new digitizer and keypad) and reassembled without the part, everything works great.
Stuck the mystery part in a bag, maybe someday it will find its home
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Nice! Im sure these things come with extra parts anyway...atleast thats what i tell myself to sleep at night, lol
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Sorry to bump such an old thread...
I recently replaced the rear camera in my wife's myTouch 4G and came upon this same part (broken in two, mind you). The part is a baffle/diffuser of some sort. It goes behind the white flash/torch LED.
Mystery solved...18+ months later.