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I'm newbe to android. I have problem my x10a ruuning out of juice in 12 hours. I'm using Advance Task Killer to kill the apps when screen is off but not sure which I need to put in Ignore List and which one I can kill safely. Here list of apps currently running and Ignore list
Currently Running Apps
com.Sonyericcson.larningclient
com.qualcomm.wiper
com.sonyericsson.android.contentmanager.service.facerecognition
com.sonyericsson.android.timeescape.pluginmanager.framework.application
com.sonyericsson.android.accountprovider
com.google.android.partnersetup
com.sonyericsson.android.contentmanager.service.timescape
com.sonyericsson.android.fota
com.sonyericsson.android.bootinfo
com.google.android.googleapps
com.sonyericsson.android.mediascape.pluginmanager.framework.application
DocumentToGoFullVersionKey
Maps
Pure Calender widget
com.sonyericsson.android.timescape.pluginmanager.framework.application
com.android.providers.calendar
com.sony.uwlop.launcher
eBay
com.google.android.apps.uploader
com.android.providers.downloads
com.billyfrancisco.photogallerywidget
voice dialer
com.sonyericsson.android.pccompanioninstaller
com.sonyericsson.android.digitalclock
3G Watchdog
Superuser Permissions
Barnacle wifi Tether
com.levelup.beautifulwidgets
settings
Ignore List
setting profiles
Advance task Killer
Timescape
Battery Status Ultimate
Gmail
Smart Keyboard Pro
Moxier Mail
Email
MyBackup Pro
Thanks is advance
I've had started a collection over here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=707878
Have you tried not running Advanced Task Killer??? I'm running on f/w R2BA020 with no task killer and no startup auditor etc... and after a day of average use I down to about 40% after c.15 hours... I tried ATK and various others and in the end ditched them cos they were making the battery slightly worse, and making the phone slower cos it had to keep restarting app/ background processes that it uses..
Your power consumption will very much depend on what your running etc.. do you have any widgets that are updating regularly, or possibly faulty and preventing your phone from sleeping.. try using juice plotter for a while to see what your discharge profile looks like - you should see it going almost flat when you have a period of non use..
PS.. I've had bluetooth on (but not connected), wifi on, and 3G/ GPRS on all day today and after 11 hours I'm now on 52%.. have used the phone a reasonable amount.. maybe 20 texts, email syncing hourly, contacts and calendar on auto sync with google... no widgets on my home screen which sync, and no use of timescape.. used mediascape for about 30 mins, internet for about 20 mins, XDA app for about an hour.. played games for about 30 mins too..
I'm using Task Manager.
It pushed me up to 46hrs Standby, coming from 20hrs, when the battery is fully charged.
Thanks Guys
@McKebapp - It is good thread but need add info like one of the guys sugesting, which are ok to kill and Do NOT Kill
@ im_iceman - The problem is if you don't have ATK or other Task Manager, most application keep running once you clicked on them. I was looking Battery Use, this tell me its and Display and Standby but detail which program was using during standby
Hi - Yes some apps will sit in the background, but they should be sleeping and not actually doing anything, unless they've been badly written.. Android, based on Linux, manages the memory so that it's running on almost full most of the time and therefore is quicker to resume something which you were previously running, or is stored in memory awaiting use.. killing these things will mean that the processor has to work harder reloading them into memory all the time..
@Mckebapp - That may well be because it's killing a dodgy app that you've got running which isn't/ wasn't sleeping properly.. trouble is it may well be killing other stuff you need too..
Each to their own though..
GPdhillon said:
Thanks Guys
@McKebapp - It is good thread but need add info like one of the guys sugesting, which are ok to kill and Do NOT Kill
@ im_iceman - The problem is if you don't have ATK or other Task Manager, most application keep running once you clicked on them. I was looking Battery Use, this tell me its and Display and Standby but detail which program was using during standby
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The absolute "NOT TO KILL" ones are written.
All other ones depend on the individual usage.
To me: I kill each one, that is killable
What about continuing my collection and making it more precise?
McKebapp said:
The absolute "NOT TO KILL" ones are written.
All other ones depend on the individual usage.
To me: I kill each one, that is killable
What about continuing my collection and making it more precise?
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Sure, I'm glad to help but I'm newbe just tell me what to do
I found a great way to extend battery life. Go to your home screen and push anywhere and don't lift your finger until add widget/app/sht cut screen comes up. select add widget. then select settings from list. then select mobile network from list. Once it adds mobile network widget you can now have a toggle on/off button for your network. I noticed a massive energy savings with my battery by doing this and simply toggling off my network when I'm not using it. This doesn't stop you from dialing/receiving calls. Another thing I did was install auto task killer and select the apps that I didn't need running. You can always use them when you need to, The cool thing with auto task killer is that it is constantly freeing up your memory. I use SetCPU and added profiles for when I'm charginf the phone or when it's in sleep mode. You can throttle it down for when it's not being used which conserves battery life. I can usually get a couple days with intermittent browsing texting and calling along with using my favorite Bible app and not have to charge it until the latter pert of day 2. Give it a try and see if it works for you. Unless you're using your phone for business and constantly checking emails you shouldn't need your network enable 24/7. Just my 2 cents
I think it would help to only install the new testament.. or just revelations.
it's ashame that, in my tread while trying to leave some possibly useful info to help someone out, someone would get upset that I mentioned that i use a BIBLE app. Maybe you don't give a rip bout the Bible at all, maybe you use babel fish or some other app, it would be good to see if you get some positive results as well. BTW, I am a Christian and proud of it and don't expect popularity from being one. Thanks
Not upset, bud. I'm christian, and you did write a useful post.
That's good. Hopefully someone will get a little use out of it. I just installed the uncommon sense rom and am waiting to see if my above method will be as effective as it was for the stock froyo. if possible, live peaceably with all men.
k_chupe said:
I found a great way to extend battery life. Go to your home screen and push anywhere and don't lift your finger until add widget/app/sht cut screen comes up. select add widget. then select settings from list. then select mobile network from list. Once it adds mobile network widget you can now have a toggle on/off button for your network. I noticed a massive energy savings with my battery by doing this and simply toggling off my network when I'm not using it. This doesn't stop you from dialing/receiving calls. Another thing I did was install auto task killer and select the apps that I didn't need running. You can always use them when you need to, The cool thing with auto task killer is that it is constantly freeing up your memory. I use SetCPU and added profiles for when I'm charginf the phone or when it's in sleep mode. You can throttle it down for when it's not being used which conserves battery life. I can usually get a couple days with intermittent browsing texting and calling along with using my favorite Bible app and not have to charge it until the latter pert of day 2. Give it a try and see if it works for you. Unless you're using your phone for business and constantly checking emails you shouldn't need your network enable 24/7. Just my 2 cents
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You shouldn't be running a task/app killer, Android was designed to manage memory for you. It will use/close resources as it sees fit. However, you could download auto killer, or min free manager. These are apps that will let you tweak the parameters of Android's internal memory management. If you search this forum you will find a good argument as to why not to use task/app killers. Just my .02...
One do not need a task killer, this may cause more harm than good.
Here is a very good article about task killers..
Article:
Android task killers explained, what they do and why you shouldn't use them...
http://m.lifehacker.com/5650894/and...ed-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
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Hi, I am using watchDog to try to see what processes start while the phone is in sleep mode. But I cannot find anything on WatchDog that tells me what is consumming battery.
I hope I make it clear.
The situation is the following.
When the phone is sleeping, with no 3g or wifi, it takes around 10% in 8 hours. Just iddle. This happens at night. When sleeping.
As soon as I wake up, I turn on 3g. And the battery starts draining. I understand this is normal. But should the phone be awake all the time just by having 3g on?
The awake bar is almost full. Eventhough the phone is locked. This happens only when I turn 3g or wifi on.
That's basically my question. Sorry if it is misleading or something.
Regards
the phone will be awake if you installed some rogue app that connects to the net every 2 minutes to check something, or just some badly coded app.
So I should start uninstalling each app to see which is the one? Or can I use an application that will tell me that? Itried watchdog, but got no success.
Any ideas?
I've found eBuddy to keep my Awake bar completely solid... EVEN if I'm completely exited out of it. It has to do with the fact that like any other app, Gingerbread keeps a cached version of the process in the background. But in eBuddy's case, staying cached causes the phone to stay awake, so the only way to resolve this is to completely kill eBuddy and any of its cached processes.
That's why I still run ATK at 30 minute kill intervals. Getting great battery life. Here's my original post on this issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1094666
almorsol said:
So I should start uninstalling each app to see which is the one? Or can I use an application that will tell me that? Itried watchdog, but got no success.
Any ideas?
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You can start by going into settings -> applications -> running services
Tap the "menu" button and make sure you are looking at only "show services in use" as opposed to all services including cashed.
You will get a list of about 10-30 (depending on what you installed and how you configured the phone)
Then go to settings -> accounts and sync, and under "manage accounts", see what accounts you created that sync up with somehting. make sure the icons (round circles) are green only for the accounts you truly want to sync.
Also tap through each account you do want to sync and check the sync settings . If there is an account that is set to sync every 2 minutes, or is set to sync at an unreasonable short time, change that. There could also be a bunch of account you what to totally switch into "manual sync" mode, for example email addresses you do not care about.
cmd512 said:
I've found eBuddy to keep my Awake bar completely solid... EVEN if I'm completely exited out of it. It has to do with the fact that like any other app, Gingerbread keeps a cached version of the process in the background. But in eBuddy's case, staying cached causes the phone to stay awake, so the only way to resolve this is to completely kill eBuddy and any of its cached processes.
That's why I still run ATK at 30 minute kill intervals. Getting great battery life. Here's my original post on this issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1094666
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I will install ATK and follow your steps buddy. Will let you know how this worked for me.
Regards.
I will do the same. Thank you!
Have a query, What Auto Kill level should I set and what's the difference between Crazy-Aggressive-Safe? I atm at Agressive!
ithehappy said:
Have a query, What Auto Kill level should I set and what's the difference between Crazy-Aggressive-Safe? I atm at Agressive!
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I do Crazy, 30 minutes, and Low level so that I can see all processes (including system level). I then run my phone as usual and add any/all system related processes to the ignore list.
Good luck, and hope it works for you as well.
I just made a test, and found that the app that makes my phone to be awake all the time is the MSN Talk Pro.
I disabled it, and everything went to normal.
Is this normal in IM apps, since the other person was having the issue with ebuddy?
How could I have the IM app running without having my phone awake all the time?
The task killer would definetly work, but then I would not be able to get msn messages.
Is this the only option?
Thank you.
almorsol said:
I just made a test, and found that the app that makes my phone to be awake all the time is the MSN Talk Pro.
I disabled it, and everything went to normal.
Is this normal in IM apps, since the other person was having the issue with ebuddy?
How could I have the IM app running without having my phone awake all the time?
The task killer would definetly work, but then I would not be able to get msn messages.
Is this the only option?
Thank you.
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Let me try to explain the situation.
If you have an IM client and you want it to be ready to accept messages from your buddies, it has to be in "listening" state to "hear" from your buddies. How that "listening" state is implemented by the developer defines how much batt power the application is eating.
Two opposite example:
1) Some stupid developer coded the IM client to always stay in foreground on your phone, actively pinging the servers on the internet , asking the servers if you have new messages. Your battery is wasted big time man.
2) A smart developer coded the IM client to use Google's C2DM interface (Cloud to Device Messaging framework). Such an app will stay dormant on the phone, and will be woken up by the android core processes whenever a new message arrives for you - Google servers will wake up the app on your phone. Such an app will not waste battery much.
There are a number of variations that go in between (1) and (2) above. So there is no clear-cut good or bad app. All depends on the implementation, and also on the way you configure your phone and the app on it.
Latest version of eBuddy was supposed to use C2DM too.
Ad the new Trillian is using C2DM. I never tried any of these though, can't vouch for any.
Just keep trying various IM apps until you find one that does not stay awake.
cmd512 said:
I do Crazy, 30 minutes, and Low level so that I can see all processes (including system level). I then run my phone as usual and add any/all system related processes to the ignore list.
Good luck, and hope it works for you as well.
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It has worked for me mate, worked well I should say. You deserve a Thanks mate.
I set it on Aggressive mode, with Auto kill at an interval of 1 hour, and NO apps but only my Power Schedule app in Ignore list, and I kept the Network On (Normally I use Flight Mode at night time), and after 9½ hours the battery drained just 2%, from 90% to 88%. Usually on Flight Mode I used to have a 3-4% drain overnight, so it's a big improvement.
BUT there are still two small but solid Awake bar present there while the Screen was off! What could be the reason? Is it because ATK was running and caused the Awake bar by itself or other apps? Take a look at the pic.
I have another query,
If I don't add any system apps (those come by default) to the Ignore list will there be any problem?
Regards.
kreoXDA said:
Let me try to explain the situation.
If you have an IM client and you want it to be ready to accept messages from your buddies, it has to be in "listening" state to "hear" from your buddies. How that "listening" state is implemented by the developer defines how much batt power the application is eating.
Two opposite example:
1) Some stupid developer coded the IM client to always stay in foreground on your phone, actively pinging the servers on the internet , asking the servers if you have new messages. Your battery is wasted big time man.
2) A smart developer coded the IM client to use Google's C2DM interface (Cloud to Device Messaging framework). Such an app will stay dormant on the phone, and will be woken up by the android core processes whenever a new message arrives for you - Google servers will wake up the app on your phone. Such an app will not waste battery much.
There are a number of variations that go in between (1) and (2) above. So there is no clear-cut good or bad app. All depends on the implementation, and also on the way you configure your phone and the app on it.
Latest version of eBuddy was supposed to use C2DM too.
Ad the new Trillian is using C2DM. I never tried any of these though, can't vouch for any.
Just keep trying various IM apps until you find one that does not stay awake.
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Thanks man.
I will keep trying some of them. Starting with the ones you said.
almorsol said:
Hi, I am using watchDog to try to see what processes start while the phone is in sleep mode. But I cannot find anything on WatchDog that tells me what is consumming battery.
I hope I make it clear.
Regards
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I have recently removed watchdog and noticed that battery consumption rapidly reduced...
Guyz, i found a way which helps increase battery life on CyanogenMod by Marcel(THNX to him).
I was wondering whether an app closes when we press back button,so i needed a task manager,but cyanogen doesn't have a task manager so i downloaded one from market and so many apps were open ,almost all apps were open.
So i killed them all and battery life has pretty much increased since then.
Also i set some profiles in setcpu and in the task manager to kill unnecessary active apps every 30mins.
Both these methods combined....i am getting a good battery life.
However the battery drain on internet still doesn't solve.However the overall battery backup has increased.
Also check this out:Install a task manager(i downloaded advanced task manager)then restart your phone then as soon as the phone starts check out the number of active apps on task manager.Almost all are open.Hope Marcel fixes this bug
My battery now is at 70% after 12 hours from 100%...(i browsed facebook for some time and listend to 12-15 songs on headphone) and that too i didn't charge the 100% fully,so we can hope for more battery backup.
If anyone has any other ideas to increase battery life on cyanogenmod plz post here
vivekdumbre said:
Guyz, i found a way which helps increase battery life on CyanogenMod by Marcel(THNX to him).
I was wondering whether an app closes when we press back button,so i needed a task manager,but cyanogen doesn't have a task manager so i downloaded one from market and so many apps were open ,almost all apps were open.
So i killed them all and battery life has pretty much increased since then.
Also i set some profiles in setcpu and in the task manager to kill unnecessary active apps every 30mins.
Both these methods combined....i am getting a good battery life.
However the battery drain on internet still doesn't solve.However the overall battery backup has increased.
Also check this out:Install a task manager(i downloaded advanced task manager)then restart your phone then as soon as the phone starts check out the number of active apps on task manager.Almost all are open.Hope Marcel fixes this bug
My battery now is at 70% after 12 hours from 100%...(i browsed facebook for some time and listend to 12-15 songs on headphone) and that too i didn't charge the 100% fully,so we can hope for more battery backup.
If anyone has any other ideas to increase battery life on cyanogenmod plz post here
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Advanced task manager is not recommended by many devs in various different forums for some reason it's not good for the phone.
may i know why is it harmful to the phones?never heard of this before!!
vivekdumbre said:
may i know why is it harmful to the phones?never heard of this before!!
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Maybe Google can help. I just know its not recommended
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Take a look on this page... It's a good explanation
lifehacker[dot]com/5650894/android-task-killers-explained-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
sry for this stupid link, but as I'm new here, I'm not able to post third-party-links...
DerpyDerp said:
http://lifehacker.com/5650894/android-task-killers-explained-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
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Here u go
One basic point is that Android will automatically open certain apps by default. When you kill these apps the task killers claim they will stay killed but because Android opens them by default they will be launched again so this cycle of killing and re-launching apps will just continue which will use up more battery instead of conserving it.
settings --> applications --> Development --> Stop app via long-press.
You can always chek this option, so you know that you close all applications everytime you use them.
I will recomend you Auto Memory Manager. You can modify the values in that android stars to close process.
Y use it on agressive mode, and always have around 80-90 mb free of RAM memory (less apps open == fasther phone == less memory used
Sorry for my english,
i think using task killers is not a good idea.
we can use task manager (default app) it is better than any other app
My GT540 is currently on:
Code:
Version 2.2.1
Kernel version: 2.6.29 [email protected]
Mod version: OpenSwift/CyanogenMod-6.1.1
for cca 2 years but this version has some problems with the camera.
I lack the time to test all the ROMs so I need some advice.
Which ROM would you recommend if battery life is important?
I only use the phone to write SMS messages, listen to music and from time to time, I browse the Internet and use Google maps. I also need a properly working camera. With the 2.2.1 version, the application for the camera often crashes and even restarts the phone completely when I try to take a picture.
I am thinking about to switch back to the original 2.1. Stock ROM but I thought maybe, there are some tweaked ROMs which maybe improve battery life by removing unnecessary stuff from the OS (but only those which don't break the camera software...).
Thanks in advance for your advice!
AltairAC said:
My GT540 is currently on:
Code:
Version 2.2.1
Kernel version: 2.6.29 [email protected]
Mod version: OpenSwift/CyanogenMod-6.1.1
for cca 2 years but this version has some problems with the camera.
I lack the time to test all the ROMs so I need some advice.
Which ROM would you recommend if battery life is important?
I only use the phone to write SMS messages, listen to music and from time to time, I browse the Internet and use Google maps. I also need a properly working camera. With the 2.2.1 version, the application for the camera often crashes and even restarts the phone completely when I try to take a picture.
I am thinking about to switch back to the original 2.1. Stock ROM but I thought maybe, there are some tweaked ROMs which maybe improve battery life by removing unnecessary stuff from the OS (but only those which don't break the camera software...).
Thanks in advance for your advice!
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if you are ONLY for battery life, 2.1 is the best for you..
there are some good roms but its difficult to find downloads
1. greendroid (latest version is 2.1 if i remember correctly) but i can only find an older version (v1.8)
2. and my favorite: eleganceswift 5.0 download here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1368013
3. if you want better performance and faster system you may want to try miroslav_mm's AOSP 2.3.7 (v2.1)
download: http://dfiles.eu/files/3pgc62a7y
ROM thread with old download: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1854374
Have fun!
andreas__ said:
if you are ONLY for battery life, 2.1 is the best for you..
there are some good roms but its difficult to find downloads
1. greendroid (latest version is 2.1 if i remember correctly) but i can only find an older version (v1.8)
2. and my favorite: eleganceswift 5.0 download here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1368013
3. if you want better performance and faster system you may want to try miroslav_mm's AOSP 2.3.7 (v2.1)
download: http://dfiles.eu/files/3pgc62a7y
ROM thread with old download: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1854374
Have fun!
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Isn't eleganceswift the HTC Sense lookalike rom? I loved that rom back in the day! I'd prefer miro's 2.3.7 if I was still using this phone though. Good performance considering it's specs and up to date compared to 2.1
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I installed Eleganceswift 5.0 and the camera works flawlessly but strange things are happening:
1. The battery meter is not working properly, every now and then the battery meter turns red and I get a message that the battery level is below 14%, a few minutes later, the battery is "green" again. Before installing the ROM I discharged my phone and then charged it for 3 hours so the ROM was installed on a 100% fully charged battery. I haven't charged my phone with the new ROM yet (since it hasn't discharged yet, the status says that it is turned on for about 50 hours). When I discharge my phone, would a battery calibration app help me or should I try something else?
2. The power control...
On Quarxs ROM I could add a 10 item power control widget on my screen which includes Wireless, Bluetooth, ... , Airplane Mode shortcuts (i.e. "buttons") while this ROM permits only a 5 item widget (Wireless, Bluetooth, GPS, Synchronize, Brightness). I badly want a "switch on/off Airplane mode" shortcut and a "turn on/off Mobile Network" shortcut on my home screen. How can I accomplish this?
3. The "Manage applications" section:
Either I don't get it or it just doesn't work properly. On Quarxs ROM this section included 4 tabs, clicking on the first tab, you get a list of all apps which are installed, the second tab gives you a list of all apps currently running and you can clear the cache used by specific apps and force stop running apps. On Eleganceswift, when I open the "Manage applications" section, I get a list of all the apps I installed (the apps which are preinstalled are not listed in this section). Clicking on a specific app, for example Opera Mini, I get some information and 4 buttons: Uninstall, Clear cache, Clear defaults, Force stop. Uninstall and Force stop are always clickable (the Uninstall button works properly) but clicking on Force stop doesn't do anything (it's even clickable when the app is not running, clicking on it yields a "click animation" but the button remains unchanged so I can click it again (it's not grayed out after I click) and it just doesn't do anything (I think)). The "Clear cache" and "Clear defaults" buttons are always grayed out i.e. "unclickable". When I go to About phone --> Battery use section, the list is always the same:
Code:
Adobe Reader
Android System
Cell standby
Phone idle
even though I started a bunch of apps (Opera Mini, MyPhoneExplorer, Shazam, Music app) and I always clicked the Home button after starting an app and not the back button to make sure that the app is not stopped.
Any advice is appreciated! :crying: