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[Q] Tighten Slider Mechanism??

I dropped my Epic yesterday (luckily not a scratch) but now I feel the slider a bit loose from the left side. You can lift it 1-2mm from the left side if held in portrait mode, but right side still sturdy. Its a but annoying to type since it wobbles a bit and makes some clicking sound when open. Just wanted to ask if anyone has or seen a teardown of the Epic to see if there is a way to tighten the slider a bit??
**cmon ex Pre users... u know how it feels**
Thanx

Mine does it a tad bit as well. Never dropped, but I think the case may be causing it to losen up a bit.

Mine does the same thing. Only had it 4th days and it's got some serious wobble. Definitely wish it felt more sturdy, ala moto droid

what your feeling seems to be what most epic users are having. I wish they made the slide as sturdy as the TP2 slide was. Man that thing was strong! My old epic had the same kind of movement right out of the box, I recently got another one and it is not too bad but I am sure over time it will loosen up again.

The build quality is really on the "meh" side. My first Epic had screen wobble after a week and the screen glass raising up above the bezel on the left side. My replacement (brand new) had screen wobble out of the box and again the glass on the left side of the screen is raising up slightly above the bezel. You can slide it open, press on the glass on the left side and literally see it move back down into the bezel. The stores display model had a tight screen and the glass was set into the bezel on both sides. Not in the mood to go on a replacement spree. I pay insurance so I am waiting to see if it gets any worse over time.
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Styckx,
from a employee's perspective, you'd have a MUCH better experience if you swap them out immediately until you get a perfect handset. The longer the wait between replacements, the more likely it is for the following:
The rep forgets you. Sounds silly, but dealing with one rep/store makes it more likely they go the extra mile for you. For example, replacing the epic with a new one, instead of a refurb.
They decide it's not a replaceable issue and tell you to go through insurance and pay the $100 deductible if you feel the need to replace it.
It gets worse and worse until you finally decide to head to the store, and they tell you it's now considered physical damage and refer you to Asurion.
I can't tell you how many loose charging ports or slides we saved from being *broken* phones by catching it early. Big difference.

no luck finding a useful teardown to see if there is an easy way to access the slider and see if you can just grip it a little so its tighter...
can the tach at sprint take a look at it?? Im past my 30 days and im not looking for a replacement... just enough for it to stop making sounds when i type while walking...

The screen rides on rails. If you have ever taken apart a semi auto handgun then you would know what i am talking about. Only way to tighten them up would be to squeeze the female end of the rails which is on the keyboard part of the phone.
See attatched pic for disassembly.
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sultan.of.swing said:
The screen rides on rails. If you have ever taken apart a semi auto handgun then you would know what i am talking about. Only way to tighten them up would be to squeeze the female end of the rails which is on the keyboard part of the phone.
See attatched pic for disassembly.
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that pic is saddeneing.... lol
but thats exactly what im looking to do. i want to see if there was an easy way to have it exposed so i can tighten it... i know that if i get to it, i can make the adjustments to make it rock solid, what worries me is the teardown part

sultan.of.swing said:
The screen rides on rails. If you have ever taken apart a semi auto handgun then you would know what i am talking about. Only way to tighten them up would be to squeeze the female end of the rails which is on the keyboard part of the phone.
See attatched pic for disassembly.
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Tht pic reminded me of micheal vick -_-

Wow that doesnt look pretty. It looks like it was in a car accident or ran over lol

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Wow that doesnt look pretty. It looks like it was in a car accident or ran over lol
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Ran over
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did you figure out how to tighten it? I have the same problem. My became loose because I was trying to pry out a case I put on. It's not exactly loose, but it bugs me that there's a 1mm gap between the screen and keyboard.

Sultan, can you take pictures of the back of the phone as well?
If you could demo a "teardown" on that (what else do you have to lose?) and figure out how to safely tighten the railing, that'd be great.
I don't know if it would be possible so if there's any brave or rich soul out there willing to attempt, many of us will be grateful.

I've had my phone for about 8 days now and I noticed the wobble as soon as I took it out of the box. If I have my palm on the bottom right corner and then try to click something in the upper left corner, the screen rocks back and forth. Annoying.
I got it at best buy. not sure if I want to go through the hassle of unrooting and getting a new phone just for a minor wobble. Can you just take it back and say you want a new one? I've never done it before...

I had to send that one back to assurion. Sorry guys.
But from what i saw if you could somehow tighten the rails then it will work.
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I took my epic back to best buys cause of screen wobble. They didnt have a problem at all. I just told them to compare it with other epics they had in stock.

[INFO] Asus Transformer Minor Teardown

Well today I thought I'd see what could be done about a light bleed spot that was annoying me. There are a couple of light bleed spots (seems pratically evident to some degree on all IPS screen devices). Anyway I did a minor disassemble as a result.
Result: Impossible to get rid of completely, its just an unfortunate trade off. I did manage to make it less intense and under normal light conditions and 60% brightness you can not really notice it now. p.s. there is nothing to "losen" the screen. It is not screwed down by the edges.
Anyway since it was apart I took some pics so you can see what is inside the beast
WARNING: The bezel is VERY fragile, so be warned. I used a guitar pick to remove it VERY carefully. After the bezel is off its easy sailing to remove the back cover. /warning
Enjoy.
LHS Speaker (CRAP!!!)

Thanks for this. I've been umming and ahhing about doing it myself, just to see whats in there. Now I dont have to. Added to ultimate thread as well. Nice job.

Your welcome

Just got a couple questions if I may. In order to lift off the back plastic casing, was it just held down by those 2 torx screws at the bottom by the 40pin connector socket, and did it just lift off easily, or were there clips holding it down? Oh and were there any labels/security stickers that would invalidate a warranty that you saw when it was open please, as I cant see any in the pics?

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Just got a couple questions if I may. In order to lift off the back plastic casing, was it just held down by those 2 torx screws at the bottom by the 40pin connector socket, and did it just lift off easily, or were there clips holding it down? Oh and were there any labels/security stickers that would invalidate a warranty that you saw when it was open please, as I cant see any in the pics?
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Hi stuntdouble,
Two torx screws have to come off first, these are part of what holds the bezel down.
After that you need to use a guitar pick from the back to lift the bezel up...best to get all 4 corners up and keep sliding..as soon as it wont slide lift it out and back in again a bit further on... it absolutely destroyed the pick by the way..lots of sharp edges in there.
The bezel will then come off from the front of the tablet. Just be careful and dont force it, Around the 40 pin connector was the biggest pain.
The back cover is held down by 4 screws on the top glass, and umm if I recall about 10 screws behind where the bezel . It basically then falls off once all screws are off with not to much effort.
There are also no security stickers over any of the screws anywhere inside the tablet

Excellent thx a lot. Will have a fiddle inside mine one of these days then.

What did you do, specifically, to fix bleed? Were some screws too tight, too loose, did you move stuff around...?
Thanks for the pics.
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mike5065 said:
What did you do, specifically, to fix bleed? Were some screws too tight, too loose, did you move stuff around...?
Thanks for the pics.
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I tried to lift the screen a bit where the bleed was. when i did that it went away a bit. I then cut and jammed small bits of black foam under it. it worked ok enough but not to get rid of it totally.
There are no screws holding it down. well not onthe edges anyway. You would have to dig deeper to find out the direct cause. I did not want to do this as it means components being removed.

I appear to have a small bit of hair or fibre trapped under the glass - it's visible when the screen is off - do you think doing a tear down like you did would give me access to blow it off or is the screen still secured?

Thanks for doing this, gives me an idea of how well its made.

Thanks for posting this! After breaking it open, any ideas of where the creaking is coming from?

Great work there, thanks for sharing your efforts with all.

What size torx screw driver does on need? Would loosening the bottom screws help for light bleed ?

Thanks for posting this...I don't suppose you have any more shots of the left/right speakers? Like a closer view/shot of them? There's a lot of people with speaker issues and I'm thinking I should just replace my own/test it somehow.
Thanks!
verkion

RavenMad said:
I appear to have a small bit of hair or fibre trapped under the glass - it's visible when the screen is off - do you think doing a tear down like you did would give me access to blow it off or is the screen still secured?
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Yes I'd say you could with a can of air, you would not have to remove the screen, however you risk getting more dust under it to be honest. So id say be careful.
dbiggss said:
Thanks for posting this! After breaking it open, any ideas of where the creaking is coming from?
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is it around the edges you get the creaking?... if so its the bezel as that is clipped on. The back cover is screwed on pretty well.
Canadoc said:
What size torx screw driver does on need? Would loosening the bottom screws help for light bleed ?
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T5 torx. The screws's inside are phillips 000's.
loosining the T5 torx screws will do absolutley nothing to help bleed as they are no where near the screen. The screen starts and ends where it shows externally. The black boarders are just filled with circuitboards.
verkion said:
Thanks for posting this...I don't suppose you have any more shots of the left/right speakers? Like a closer view/shot of them? There's a lot of people with speaker issues and I'm thinking I should just replace my own/test it somehow.
Thanks!
verkion
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Hi Verkion, These are the only two pics I have, , the wiring is SUPER bad on the left hand side speaker (look close at the bottom wiring in white/red. I was scared to sneeze close to in incase it broke!.
The wires are soldered on too.
Right Hand Side Speaker
Left Hand Side Speaker

Whats this i see....a mini PCI-E pinout
Probably for HSPA/HSPA+/LTE/WiMax/ETC/ when they release a model to carriers, but still cool nonetheless
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I think there's a thread in the zoom forum that tried to do something with a similar pinout....
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Hey, any idea about battery capacity? I'm hoping its at least 6000 :S

josephislee said:
Hey, any idea about battery capacity? I'm hoping its at least 6000 :S
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If i'm not mistaken TF has 2x 3300mah battery.
From one of the pics, you can see it is printed 3300mah batt capacity.
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hey thanks a lot for this !
Has anyone spotted the microphone ? I'm looking to change it if possible , depending on what this involves...
Is this it ? h t t p: / / i.imgur.com/K2yPh.jpg
I kinda i doubt it .. why would it need such a large data bus.
It could probably be the one on the left though , under the yellow sticker

[DEFECT] Gap between glass and casing. Whose got it?

Does your SGS3 have a gap down the left hand side of the screen?
Is dust building up in it?
If so, post a photo, if you can
I am returning my first SGS3 today as there is a gap between the glass and the casing.
Dust is building up in it and it looks rather unsightly.
I was just wondering if it's just me or not.
Can you see the line of dust down the left side of the screen?
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No gaps here. Mines is nice and tightly sealed up.
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Mine has a small gap but I can't see it with the case it's in.

OP are you sure its not a HOX you're using? ;-P

I have got another one, but im afraid its still the same.
To be sure, I'll have to have it for a few days and see if any dust accumilates in it.
I looked at another one in phones4u and the screen is perfectly alligned.

Dont have it. Take some tooth brush and clean it.
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Oh, yes I have a gap now you mention it..

zmsudu said:
Dont have it. Take some tooth brush and clean it.
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I don't think the bristles of a toothbrush would get in the gap to be honest.
That's bedside the point anyway It should be perfect!

johnboywilson said:
Oh, yes I have a gap now you mention it..
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vinokirk said:
I don't think the bristles of a toothbrush would get in the gap to be honest.
That's bedside the point anyway It should be perfect!
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I just ran my nail along the gap and managed to dig out the few flakes of dust in there, so a toothbrush should work fine.

afaik all the samsung mobiles i have used had micro gaps, its the way it is designed. cant notice the gap in s3 as it is white, but it will have it surely.
btw the micro gap is required to absorb the shocks. else all the shock will reach out the screen easily.

The problem I have is that on the left side the gap is quite substantial. Where as there is no gap at all on the right side.
It's like the whole glass part it too far over to the right.
I have seen another blue S3 at Phone 4u and there it an equal gap on either side; so I know for sure there is a problem with this batch at the 3 store.

My white one has no such gap. At least nothing I can discern anyway...

vinokirk said:
I don't think the bristles of a toothbrush would get in the gap to be honest.
That's bedside the point anyway It should be perfect!
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Use this. It's fantastic at keeping nooks and crannies of electronic devices clean.
http://www.cyberclean.net/cleaning/en/Products/HomeOffice.html

Yeah cyberckean is pretty pro.
Also, thumbs up for everyone who is now inspecting the edge of their phone for the first time?
I have a little gap at the top of my screen, but its not gathered any dust.
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You are not the first to bring this issue up, so I'm thinking many people have this issue but only a few of them will notice it.

demonwind said:
You are not the first to bring this issue up, so I'm thinking many people have this issue but only a few of them will notice it.
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I thought there was one, it is moving slightly. But guess that's good, firmness bad for drops.
It is also an optical illusion! Depending on the lighting angle. Does it look like a big gap on the left? Flip the phone upside down, the gap is still on the left it doesn't flip. Not worried now after noticing it, you had me for 20sec.
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Fix for build quality issues.

I just received my HTC One developer edition, and like others, there are some build quality issues, most notably the screen is not lined up with the rest of the front of the phone (ie, you can feel the screen glass grabbing your finger when you swipe down to pull the notifications panel)
It was not too bad of an issue when comparing to others from YouTube, also I bought the phone from HTC, so there is no way for me to exchange it at AT&T.
So I decided to fix it.
- Heat up the screen with a heat gun on low or a hair dryer on high. Make sure you keep on moving the heat source in figure 8 and keep the heat source around 10 inches away from the screen. Do this for around 5 minutes, the phone needs to be hot, uncomfortable to hold, but still you should be able to hold it with your bare hands.
- Protect the screen and back of the phone. Clamp the top of the screen. Wait for the phone to cool. Release the clamps.
This worked wonderfully for me, the screen is now flush with the body, I can't feel it when I run my finger on the edge between the screen and the body.
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I'm going to have to try this--I didn't want to send my phone back to AT&T because that would be a hassle but at the same time I really hated how i could feel the little lip every time I pulled down the notification shade.

Thank god I don't have this issue, this is way too crazy of a fix for me O_O

Good fix thanks for posting. This is what ifixit actually does to remove the screen. Hot air melts the glue so you can take off the screen or adjust it.
A sidenote: If you heat the phone up too much the battery degrades so be careful.

Too bad there wasn't an easy fix like yours to my dev edition defect. No way to solve bleed issues apart from sending it back for a replacement.
Good for you. Self-help never hurts. Cheers!
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inselfyoga

This isn't a fix for all build quality issues.. one fix for the gap inbetween bezel and speaker grills is put a TPU case on it. It will squeeze it together and make the gap go away.
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well im on my second one right now you can feel the screen glass grabbing your finger when you swipe down to pull the notifications panel on both of them i don't even know if i should exchange again, but it feel like the screen is about to cut my finger, when swiping down its really anoying

I take it hose clamps are pretty strong? seems like they'd have to be to squish that glass back down. Dont know if my walmart plastic clamp kit will do it Thanks for sharing

...This is a rather extreme fix.

i just pressed mine in really hard with my hands

This is similar to how we fixed the early Nexus 7s. Asus had issues with the left hand side of the screen being proud of the bezel. The fix was to warm the periphery of the screen to re-soften the adhesive and then place heavy books on the screen and leave for a few hours... worked a treat.
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I think I will try this before I bother with AT&T. I just hate having to deal with them for anything at all.

Thanks for the how to. Worked perfectly!

cachookaman said:
i just pressed mine in really hard with my hands
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lol just asking for it to crack

This improved things on my "One" as well.
now if I could just get something to close the minor gaps between the speaker grills and the plastic..
I'm thinking about using a bit of krazy glue and working it into the opening and putting my clamps back on until it dries.
This phone will be close to perfect, even if I have to help it along myself

Andrmgic said:
This improved things on my "One" as well.
now if I could just get something to close the minor gaps between the speaker grills and the plastic..
I'm thinking about using a bit of krazy glue and working it into the opening and putting my clamps back on until it dries.
This phone will be close to perfect, even if I have to help it along myself
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Let me know if this works for you. I was thinking the same thing.
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Let me know if this works for you. I was thinking the same thing.
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WOW...Let me know how that works also. I'm trying to not let the small gap bother me, but i'm worried over time that dirt or moisture will get in there and mess some things up. The issue comes from the speakers not being part of the 1 solid piece of aluminum but are snapped on later. This is why in the drop tests the speakers came off on some of them.

going to grab some toothpicks + krazy glue on the way home and see what can be done about the gaps.
Thanks to the procedure in the OP, my glass is now flush with the speaker grill on the top of the device. Much more pleasant to pull down the notification shade now.
Trying to do the same with the lower speaker grill, but it's not as big a deal as the top one.

Nice. Will have to pick up some clamps from Home Depot...I do definitely feel the overhang when pulling the noti shade. You know over extended use, the grime from our fingers will deposit there. ugh
Hope I dont shatter the screen.. lol.

The top and bottom speaker grills are glued on as well so they might not have let them set long enough causing that seperation. As for the light bleed sheesh , im sure theyre rushing to meet demand, but what good does it do if they deliver an inferior product
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Samsung Galaxy S4 Bezel Gap Dirt

I've started to notice that dirt/dust is gathering in the gap between the bezel and the screen on my i9505. I've tried to blow the dirt out, tried to push it out with paper etc but can't seem to shift it. Does anybody else have this issue and have you been able to clear it? Thanks
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la1986 said:
I've started to notice that dirt/dust is gathering in the gap between the bezel and the screen on my i9505. I've tried to blow the dirt out, tried to push it out with paper etc but can't seem to shift it. Does anybody else have this issue and have you been able to clear it? Thanks
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I keep my phone is case, so i don;t have this issues, but on old s1/s2 i used to clean that gap with a small needle.

Dean-xXx said:
I keep my phone is case, so i don;t have this issues, but on old s1/s2 i used to clean that gap with a small needle.
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Thanks for the reply
I keep my S4 in a pouch case too but it's still started to accumulate some dirt in the gap between the bezel and the screen. Maybe it's just my OCD for things like this that's making me notice it but it's annoying me lol. I've thought about using a really fine needle to push the dirt out but the idea of putting a sharp needle anywhere near my precious S4 gives me cold sweats! (OK I'm exaggerating slightly lol)
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la1986 said:
...but the idea of putting a sharp needle anywhere near my precious S4 gives me cold sweats! (OK I'm exaggerating slightly lol)
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Nahh.. a needle is bigger than a thin paper and I wouldn't use it.
With the S2 I used a thin paper and with this one (S4) I didn't notice the need yet but suppose a thin paper should do when the time arrives.

I tried with a needle on my S4, was too thick and couldn't get into it properly but did clear out a little bit of dirt

Just use the paper which is soft but hard to clean the dirty.
Actually I realized after bought the S4 that to have a gap in the front is really bad design.
htc one x and nokia phone doesn't have it either. specification wise, samsung seems to be ahead but design wise, they have a long way to catch up.

la1986 said:
I've started to notice that dirt/dust is gathering in the gap between the bezel and the screen on my i9505. I've tried to blow the dirt out, tried to push it out with paper etc but can't seem to shift it. Does anybody else have this issue and have you been able to clear it? Thanks
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What about the tip of a dental stick ... better than a steel needle!
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My advice is wooden toothpick- you can break it in the middle and get really thin edges that will do the trick.
And the wood will not damage your phone
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la1986 said:
I've started to notice that dirt/dust is gathering in the gap between the bezel and the screen on my i9505. I've tried to blow the dirt out, tried to push it out with paper etc but can't seem to shift it. Does anybody else have this issue and have you been able to clear it? Thanks
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I use a thin scotch tape so the dust will stick to it as i carefully press the dusty gap with something pointy like a needle or a toothpick
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Samsung S4 screen gap
la1986 said:
I've started to notice that dirt/dust is gathering in the gap between the bezel and the screen on my i9505. I've tried to blow the dirt out, tried to push it out with paper etc but can't seem to shift it. Does anybody else have this issue and have you been able to clear it? Thanks
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I have this same problem too. There was a gap between the screen and the bezel on my S4, near the headphone jack. I sent it into Samsung and they told me that someone had performed an unauthorized replacement of the screen and that it voided the warranty. They said that according to the IMEI given, the phone was a black S4 belonging to telus - not the Fido white s4 that I thought I had. And they also said that the USB connector was defective (which I find hard to believe since I've been using it with Samsung chargers for 6 months now). I had no idea because it was bought used and there is no way of checking for it either (you can only check whether the phone is blacklisted or not). So not only did Samsung void my warranty but when I received the phone back, the gap was noticeably worse! It was just a minor cosmetic flaw before and now its a fullblown gap all along the top and i can bend the screen at the top. Samsung made it worse! I feel like I've been ripped off twice now; this time by Samsung. Never buying another Samsung device again.
Anyway, did anyone find a solution to this problem without turning it in for warranty? How much would it cost to fix this gap?