Hello Guys,
at first sorry for my bad english...
Is there any way to get windows mobile on my HTC Wildfire?
I hope there is a solution!
I know the phone is very new...
If this doesn't work - my friends and i bought a wildfire that have a t-mobile software branding - how can i get the untouched rom?
thx 4 rply
No There's no way to do that. Why would you wanna have wmobile instead of Android? Stupid.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App
s3ri0z said:
Hello Guys,
at first sorry for my bad english...
Is there any way to get windows mobile on my HTC Wildfire?
I hope there is a solution!
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There is no and probably never will be a WM rom for the Wildfire.The wildfire isn't successfully rooted (A review version was but it doesn't work on retail) so flashing is currently impossible so I don't think you can unbrand it for now.
I do know Paul from MoDaCo is trying to root it but we will see how that goes.
Why would you want that? i am just curious.
I like to have it, because all my other phones are with windows mobile.
There are many more programs for wm smartphones...
But the next problem is, that in Germany all wildfires are sold out... it's very anoying.
I've searched for a good thread with android apps - but i didn't find one...
Does it have as much applications as for windows mobile?
s3ri0z said:
I like to have it, because all my other phones are with windows mobile.
There are many more programs for wm smartphones...
But the next problem is, that in Germany all wildfires are sold out... it's very anoying.
I've searched for a good thread with android apps - but i didn't find one...
Does it have as much applications as for windows mobile?
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I do not know how much the applications for Windows mobile has grown in the last year but I used to have WM 6.1 on my HTC Kaiser.
I find more (free and paying) applications in the android market then I found for WM.
Take a look at appbrain . com
@ s3ri0z:
i dont think so, that all the wildfires are sold out in germany. why i get one today in my vodafoneshop???
it is unpossible to flash a winmob rom to your wildfire. did you tried to run android on a windows mobile phone? its difficult to develop it and so to run it on an winmob device.
and than, the android only starts in windows. it doesnt replace it.
on android you wount get something like that.
Hey s3ri0z,
I'm German myself, so please write me a PM, if there are some problems with the understanding. I'll answer you in German then.
To your questions:
- There exist 100.000+ apps in the Android Market. This is way more then you can get for WM. I have to admit, that if you count all WM-apps together you might find more apps for WM. But most of the WM-apps are old. Lots of those were designed for WM 5, WM 6.1, etc. The only useful WM-apps are those for WM 6.5 and may be WM 6.1, but since Microsoft will launch Windows Phone 7 in a couple month, WM is kind of dying.
My phone is an HTC HD2 and this way I'm using WM-apps for a long time. With the possibilities of an Linux kernel, which was released by the dev's here in this forum, I'm now testing Froyo on my HD2. To be honest, I think Android is the future. It is in many ways better. It's faster, supports flash in the browser and has a huge development community.
- You can get a Wildfire at at least three online stores from now to tomorrow. Try idealo.de or other "Preissuchmaschinen", you'll find a vendor.
- The only thing, which really is a plus for Windows Mobile is the Sync. I don't wan't to share my private data with google. But even there is a solution. Look for companionlink.com and check the USB-version. That should solve all those problems.
Hello guys,
thanks for so many answers.
I looked an a lot of websites with android apps.
There are really many freeware apps - so it's ok to have an android smartphone...
I searched at idealo.com for the wildfire and bought 3 pieces at es-mobilfunk de.
At the shop the delivery date was 3 to 7 days.
After 3 days I asked for the delivery date --> they said it's sold out and I have to wait for an indefinite period... it's very annoying!
Hi there!
- WM has more apps - true. But it got near to 500.000 (for example) apps in nearly 10 years. Android got near to 100.000 apps in nearly 2 year. That means android grows and gets apps faster So why anyone would want wm on his Wildfire? I only missed TCPMP and Worms from wm.
All of the Wildfires isn't sold in Germany or I bought the last one
zephyri-xr said:
Hi there!
- WM has more apps - true. But it got near to 500.000 (for example) apps in nearly 10 years. Android got near to 100.000 apps in nearly 2 year. That means android grows and gets apps faster So why anyone would want wm on his Wildfire? I only missed TCPMP and Worms from wm.
All of the Wildfires isn't sold in Germany or I bought the last one
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lol, fail comparison. End up the same amount/year in your case.
But, your point's right
Windows Mobile have around 50k working apps atm. and have been around for like 6 years or so. Android have been around for over 1 year know, lately the apps have grown like ****. It'll probably beet Appstore pretty soon.
But hey! Apps is not all, Android is the (according to me) best system around.
From what I seen of the wildfire in the 3 hours I have had mine it really would not do well with the new windows mobile heavy handed core, the phone is nice as it is and really does not need WM killing the poor thing
TitusO said:
Hey s3ri0z,
I'm German myself, so please write me a PM, if there are some problems with the understanding. I'll answer you in German then.
To your questions:
- There exist 100.000+ apps in the Android Market. This is way more then you can get for WM. I have to admit, that if you count all WM-apps together you might find more apps for WM. But most of the WM-apps are old. Lots of those were designed for WM 5, WM 6.1, etc. The only useful WM-apps are those for WM 6.5 and may be WM 6.1, but since Microsoft will launch Windows Phone 7 in a couple month, WM is kind of dying.
My phone is an HTC HD2 and this way I'm using WM-apps for a long time. With the possibilities of an Linux kernel, which was released by the dev's here in this forum, I'm now testing Froyo on my HD2. To be honest, I think Android is the future. It is in many ways better. It's faster, supports flash in the browser and has a huge development community.
- You can get a Wildfire at at least three online stores from now to tomorrow. Try idealo.de or other "Preissuchmaschinen", you'll find a vendor.
- The only thing, which really is a plus for Windows Mobile is the Sync. I don't wan't to share my private data with google. But even there is a solution. Look for companionlink.com and check the USB-version. That should solve all those problems.
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i completely agree. had wm devices since 2003 (tomtom was the killer app) but now wm is dying, wp7 will not change this, since as far as i heard it is not backward compatibility at all. this was my reason to go for the wildfire, and i have to say i really like this phone.
s3ri0z said:
I like to have it, because all my other phones are with windows mobile.
There are many more programs for wm smartphones...
But the next problem is, that in Germany all wildfires are sold out... it's very anoying.
I've searched for a good thread with android apps - but i didn't find one...
Does it have as much applications as for windows mobile?
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Yeah... Android has many apps. Maybe not as much as WM but still growing. In Poland all HTCs were sold out as well :/ but 2 days ago I managed to snatch one
Cheers,
BK
Ever looked in Window Marketplace??? There is not much to download...
I also was using Windows Mobile 6.5 and now owner of the HTC Wildfire, honestly, i never want to go back to Windows Mobile! Android is so easy to use and much faster than (for example) WM on a Touch2...
What ever you need can be sownloaded on the Marketplace, and the best thing is...for free!
Dave
Never try torturing yourself. I've just escape from this hell
I used a Touch2 in a electronic market and i felt like riding a turtle after I used my lovely Wildfire. So WM sucks. I only missed the TCPMP and Worms but soon we'll get them
can i have a dual boot with windows and android in the HTC Wildfire ??? and heard that some applets arent supported due to less resolution of the screen… is that true ?? is that a major setback as far as Android market is concerned ??? and anyone tried FROYO on wildfire ???
seshvasan89 said:
can i have a dual boot with windows and android in the HTC Wildfire ??? and heard that some applets arent supported due to less resolution of the screen… is that true ?? is that a major setback as far as Android market is concerned ??? and anyone tried FROYO on wildfire ???
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1. No
2.Sorta, Some apps don't show in the market but you can still download them.
3. Froyo is going to be released sooner or later(Within 2 weeks the rumor goes).
I don't understand why anyone would want to use Windows Mobile over the Android OS. As point of princible to prove you can get Windows Mobile on your phone is one thing... To use it as your phone's main OS is another IMO.
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hi all, is there an app that allows me to read mangas online? sort of like what mango does for the blackberry?
anything anyone? anything at all?
Hi there, Mango developer here. Was googling my app and found this thread, so I just figured I'd mention this: I'm about halfway done with a (albeit watered-down) WinMo port of Mango. It wasn't terribly difficult since Java is very similar to C#, but there are a lot of differences between the .NET Compact Framework and the BlackBerry API so I've hit a couple roadblocks, main one being the pageviewer.
The target platform is PocketPC 2003, so if I can get it to run on my piece of **** 6 year old HP iPaq it'll run on a Rhodium without much complaint, hopefully.
The main problem with the Windows Mobile port is the pageviewer. BlackBerry has support for panning around an image with the touchscreen built in, whereas WinMo (or at least 2003) requires you to manually drag the scrollbars or use the D-Pad on the device. >_> I will try to write a custom imageviewer that allows for scrolling but I don't think it will work all that well.
Also, the only Windows Mobile devices I have are that crappy old iPaq and a Treo 600w, and both of them have very little RAM. I'm worried that Mango's high-res scans won't play nice with those devices' limited memory.
One more thing... the Rhodium (which I am guessing is the device you want to run Mango on) is Windows Mobile right?
Yes, it runs Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional. The rhodium DOES have touch panning also.
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Also, the only Windows Mobile devices I have are that crappy old iPaq and a Treo 600w, and both of them have very little RAM. I'm worried that Mango's high-res scans won't play nice with those devices' limited memory.
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One big problem with Windows Mobile is the fact that it is years and years old, with dozens of versions, from crappy hardware and low resolutions to the newer specs and high-res. The iPhone and Blackberry's don't have this problem because of their 'young' age.
If you're developing for WindowsMobile, I would really recommend not trying to develop for OLD OLD devices like your iPaq. What's the point? Your target audience isn't going to be using such old devices like that, and you're just making your life harder for yourself.
Also, don't make your program rely on a D-Pad, as many newer touchscreen devices don't have one!!
Don't develop for WindowsMobile Smartphones (which don't have touchscreen's) but develop for WindowsMobile PocketPC's (which all have touchscreens). Develop for WindowsMobile 6.0 Pro or 6.1, because WinMo 6.5 is about to come out in a few months, and WinMo 7 within a year.
Don't restrict yourself and make your developing harder. Sorry if I sound like I'm coming on high or hard here, but I'm kinda sick of seeing applications that are so limited because they are trying to cater for decade old software and mobiles. Do what the iPhone does. Make a break and start afresh =)
Good luck!!
If you don't mind reading mangas "offline" there's always Comic Reader Mobi.
leginag said:
One big problem with Windows Mobile is the fact that it is years and years old, with dozens of versions, from crappy hardware and low resolutions to the newer specs and high-res. The iPhone and Blackberry's don't have this problem because of their 'young' age.
If you're developing for WindowsMobile, I would really recommend not trying to develop for OLD OLD devices like your iPaq. What's the point? Your target audience isn't going to be using such old devices like that, and you're just making your life harder for yourself.
Also, don't make your program rely on a D-Pad, as many newer touchscreen devices don't have one!!
Don't develop for WindowsMobile Smartphones (which don't have touchscreen's) but develop for WindowsMobile PocketPC's (which all have touchscreens). Develop for WindowsMobile 6.0 Pro or 6.1, because WinMo 6.5 is about to come out in a few months, and WinMo 7 within a year.
Don't restrict yourself and make your developing harder. Sorry if I sound like I'm coming on high or hard here, but I'm kinda sick of seeing applications that are so limited because they are trying to cater for decade old software and mobiles. Do what the iPhone does. Make a break and start afresh =)
Good luck!!
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You make a very valid point. I haven't used WinMo in a long time so I haven't kept up with anything past version 5, and I didn't know how significant the differences were in versions 6 and 6.1 when compared to the devices I'm used to. (since WinMo pretty much stood still from versions 2002-5.0 I just assumed things were the same as ever. hurray for competition getting Microsoft of their asses!)
Though I don't have any 6.0-compatible devices to test on, I will bump up my target platform to 6.0 with .NETCF 3.5 and rely on the emulators. You're right, it really is just a bad headache to write apps for six year old devices with 15 megs of app memory, thanks for opening my eyes heh.
any eta available for the winmo version? i'd be more than willing to help test it =]
hi
if you need a hand with the c# on windows mobile let me know.
I work a lot with it and I think I know this thing pretty well now.
Even if i am pretty busy i probably can save you a lot of time.
pm me if you need
Me again, sorry for the month-old gravedig. I haven't been working on Mango WinMo recently but I've started writing it again for WM6/.NET3.5. Hopefully I'll have a usable version out soon, but no promises. I've also decided to get a TP2 to replace my stolen BlackBerry Storm so maybe that'll give me some incentive to code faster.
Also, if anyone knows of any UI libraries I can use to spruce up the buttons and controls, that would be great. WinMo suuuure is ugly >_>
Well, supposedly the new 6.5 provides for a nicer UI and buttons.
I look forward to your app and I hope you enjoy your new TP2
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Me again, sorry for the month-old gravedig. I haven't been working on Mango WinMo recently but I've started writing it again for WM6/.NET3.5. Hopefully I'll have a usable version out soon, but no promises. I've also decided to get a TP2 to replace my stolen BlackBerry Storm so maybe that'll give me some incentive to code faster.
Also, if anyone knows of any UI libraries I can use to spruce up the buttons and controls, that would be great. WinMo suuuure is ugly >_>
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Really nice of you to bump this thread =)
Here's one TP2-user, who is really waiting for this app. I'm a bit tired to drag around two devices; PSP with custom firmware to read manga and TP2 for everything else.
Much kudos for ya ^^
And for the UI, I hope that upcoming official (if you hesitate to use custom ROMs) 6.5 update for TP2 will spruce things up for you to more liking
Acidemus said:
Really nice of you to bump this thread =)
Here's one TP2-user, who is really waiting for this app. I'm a bit tired to drag around two devices; PSP with custom firmware to read manga and TP2 for everything else.
Much kudos for ya ^^
And for the UI, I hope that upcoming official (if you hesitate to use custom ROMs) 6.5 update for TP2 will spruce things up for you to more liking
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this makes two us ... exact same setup ... psp for reading and tp2 for everything else ....
I have been using WM based device over five years and now, I would like to try something new.
It seems that the HTC Click is an easy start with Android, but I am just curious that is it ever possible to flash WM6.5 rom on Click just in case I cant get use to Android?
I'm no chef or developer or anything but my guess would be no.
Been using HTC diamond for last two years and they havn't fully got android working on that because of driver issues, so cannot see WM working on an even newer phone.
wtf would you wanna do that for?
that too lol
jamezelle , man ask some simple and logical question. why f word here? are you payed from somebody? millions are used to windows mobile. meaby only percent want not to change habits and you attack many people for no reason.
i also want to buy tatto , here is free with some contact, but if i can switch to wm.
dont YOU ask me why.
if somebody polite can ask i would give only couple reason:
1. i cannot live without total commander. and dont want to spend life in searching how to add it on andriod, if is possible at all?
2. also TCPMP
3. also meaby tomtom is what i prefer for gps
4. i like resco photo viewer
5. and sound recorder
6. also MANY simple utitlities i want to add too , like conversation recorder ...
7. also curious to see improvement in performance from my p3300 regarding processor and memory
8. not your bussines with your atacking aproach...
WOW! you're the one on the attack here, I agree with Jamezelle & judging by the reasons you posted, why not just stick to a windows mobile device?
I amazes me that people would post on an Android board asking how to make it run windows & expect not to get this kind of response?
Try going on an apple forum & asking if you can run windows on the iphone
People are being light hearted here (notice the smiley on the end of his reply?) but Seriously, if you really can't live without WM apps buy a WM phone (or contact the developer to ask if they considered an android version), if you want to change to Android then more power to you, go buy a cheap Android handset & keep both until you are 100% sure, T-mobile UK sell them on P.A.Y.G.
They are designed to run the OS they are shipped with, you cant really complain that it wont do stuff the other does.
Don't forget WM has been around a lot longer so there are bound to be more apps, in the very short time Android has been out it has done some wonderful things & in time (I believe) it will become the number 1 OS as more companies develop software for it.
I started on Android, changed to WM, then back to Android & many people here run both.
A serious & informative answer was given in the 1st reply. Did it really need to go this far?
NO, Windows OS or Apps wont run on an Android handset...
...AND THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT!!!!
Ok. more resonable answer, Thanks
i just think if nobody of wm users dont complain for possibility of android running on "wm devices" (seen this on Tilt , www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxcdSsmmKz8 )why would you guys complain?
i just like Tattoo device. and becaouse of your attitude i will certainly never have oportunity to have afordable great device (like tattoo)
But You can have win devices as i know. not fair . that is the point.
(sorry for eng)
ok . i'm out
i'w got answers, argue don;t lead anywhere...
all the best for all of us
why buying an android phone when late wm phones are same $$$ and fit better to a WM OS?
another thing is having an WM for the last year, and with the late release of android, wanting to flash to android
i got a htc winmo device from 2007 and Android has given it more life...especially the Tattoo Rom..gtta love sense UI on qvga..whats that? More HTC qvga android phones for 2010. Maybe I can wait for winmo 7 after all.
i have the solution
send me your tatoo
ill send you my htc touch mk 1
fair swap
you get windows
i get anotheR lovely android device !!
(( no but seriously the apps you want i can sort of agree with, file managers on android are a whole new thing when your used to win-mob, maybe try linda file manager or astro its just a getting used to process... or we can swap ! ))
=====PEACE=====
htc tattoo clone running WM ?
Hello,
I have found this 3 month old news:
http://www.clonedinchina.com/2010/01/htc-tattoo-clone-touch-g4-runs-windows-mobile.html
Is this Windows mobile ROM compatible with the HTC Tattoo ?
If it is compatible, can someone upload this Windows mobile ROM ?
Thank you
Problem is, that this clone doesn't need to have the same hardware equipment as the original one (because of the drivers). But I know that the pendant of the tattoo (HTC Touch2) has nearly the same HW equipment...maybe this could be of any help?
dxs1 said:
Hello,
I have found this 3 month old news:
http://www.clonedinchina.com/2010/01/htc-tattoo-clone-touch-g4-runs-windows-mobile.html
Is this Windows mobile ROM compatible with the HTC Tattoo ?
If it is compatible, can someone upload this Windows mobile ROM ?
Thank you
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HI
im using a jade and guys at the jade forum wanted android on our phone but it looks like impossible assuming the same for the tatoo running WM in fact this is the reason that im seriously considering buying a tatoo(its also in my budget)
and for ur info the specs on the tatoo and jade(touch3G) are quite the same
and just for the sake of my made craze to try android looks like i might buy a tatoo soon
Call me old-fashioned, but I'm wondering if it is possible to have Windows Mobile on HTC Hero - not as a dual boot, but instead of Android?
Are there any chefs out there developing Windows Mobile ROMs for the Hero?
I currently have HC Diamond and have been a very happy user of Makevaral's BsB ROMs, but I am getting HTC Hero on upgrade so I'm wondering if I can get WM on it.
I didn't put this question in the "Android Development" forum because it's not the development of Android that I am asking about.
Thanks.
Not possible, there are other threads on it if you search.
meirionwyllt said:
Call me old-fashioned, but I'm wondering if it is possible to have Windows Mobile on HTC Hero - not as a dual boot, but instead of Android?
Are there any chefs out there developing Windows Mobile ROMs for the Hero?
I currently have HC Diamond and have been a very happy user of Makevaral's BsB ROMs, but I am getting HTC Hero on upgrade so I'm wondering if I can get WM on it.
I didn't put this question in the "Android Development" forum because it's not the development of Android that I am asking about.
Thanks.
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Hero may be a downgrade then, worse screen.
I had the diamond...
Hero with android is so much better
With 2.1 Rom.. it kills the HTC Diamond
i have had the Td2 and the hero and the hero wins easily!
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Call me old-fashioned
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Old-Fashioned !
since there are (from the hardware specs point of view) great winmo phones, why would you want to go through the trouble of putting winmo on a hero? the hero is a great phone, but if you want winmo (god knows why...) just get a winmo phone, you'll save yourself a lot of trouble.
this is not bashing, this is asking why.
1. don't get the Hero if you're happy with windows mobile. no point.
2. get the Hero and forget about that crap.
ex owner of Diamond here
Sent from my Hero using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
winmo is immposible to install on hero becasue of hardware and kernel ..
Why would you want to spoil your Hero by installing an outdated clunky OS, that MS are soon abandoning? I used to have the TD - the Hero is just so much better for both hardware and software.
As others have said if you want to stick with WM there are plenty of HTC WM phones out there - get one of those instead of the Hero
buy a fake chinese hero which is identical to hero (I think - only saw it on a video) and has winmo 6.5 pro
Thanks for your answers.
The reason I was asking is because I've taken Orange up on an offer of a HTC Hero free as an upgrade. I was initially going to sell it because of my old-fashioned nature and wanting to stick with MS. But then I thought of asking about the ROM just in case.
"an outdated clunky OS, that MS are soon abandoning?" - I hope you are right, that MS are indeed abandoning it in favour of Windows Phone 7. I hope it's a complete re-write of the code, rather than what MS usually do and regenerate old code and put it into "new" OS's.
Thanks
I might have a play around with the Hero to see if I like it.
Windows mobile 7 is completely new, but will not work on any existing handsets.
back to android.
Android is great, fully customisable and there is no reason not to love it.
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The reason I was asking is because I've taken Orange up on an offer of a HTC Hero free as an upgrade. I was initially going to sell it .
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Exactly what happened with me - it was going on Ebay and I was keeping the TD, until I made one mistake and did this
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I might have a play around with the Hero to see if I like it.
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One little play and I was hooked.
In use the capacitive screen is so much better - do not believe those who say it is a worse screen because it has less resolution. In fact ease of use of the screen is the one thing that I always envied iphone users for when I watched them swipe easily between screens without ever accidently switching on an app.
And Android, especially with HTC's SenseUI, is much better than WM. Because of the WM interface (which HTC did their best to hide) I used my TD mainly as a phone and did not get the best out of it because of that. Now I use my Hero for a lot more. And I have not missed my old stylus one bit - I just let my fingers do the walking.
Let us know how you get on with your little play - try the market and see how easy it is to get all sorts of weird and wonderful apps that you never realised you needed, but you will find indispensible once you've got them. I bet you will be androided.
i've testing android roms on my hd2 for a few weeks and i still have this question:
WHY A WM USER WOULD WANT ANDROID ON HIS/HERS HD2?
1. generaly a wm user doesn't like iOS (iphone). and android is in so many ways similar to ios
2. i can't find something that android could do and wm couldn't
3. i can't see any difference in speed or smoothness between wm and android
4. i can agree that the amount of applications or games is definetely higher on android, but one can find basicaly anything he/she wants also for wm
so, please guys let me know why do you want android on yours hd2
thank you!
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i've testing android roms on my hd2 for a few weeks and i still have this question:
WHY A WM USER WOULD WANT ANDROID ON HIS/HERS HD2?
1. generaly a wm user doesn't like iOS (iphone). and android is in so many ways similar to ios
2. i can't find something that android could do and wm couldn't
3. i can't see any difference in speed or smoothness between wm and android
4. i can agree that the amount of applications or games is definetely higher on android, but one can find basicaly anything he/she wants also for wm
so, please guys let me know why do you want android on yours hd2
thank you!
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Well i asked this question myself a lot!
Even if i'm running on Android for 3 weeks now and i didn't use WM since than; it is still not easy in my opinion to answer it!
I've done it just for curiosity and for change!
All i can feel is that it's more stable and that is what i'm interested in a phone! I don't like freezes or crashes and as you said anyone can find whatever he wants in any OS... As for speed and smoothness yes they are really the same...
Thing is... since you can have both with no problems at all, why not have both?
You get the stability and efficiency of Windows Mobile for daily work, including Office Mobile and other features Android doesn't have, and then you have Android with its huge application pool for more "fun" uses.
Windows Mobile = professional tool.
Android = kid's toy
For now at least - Android is still way to instable and also, even worse, way too power hungry to be used professionally on a HD2. I need to be able to use my phone intensively all day long without having to recharge after a few hours because the battery gets drained big time.
Android is just better, even with some bugs.
+1
for me the mail app and the google sync is miles apart from the rubbish windows dishes up
I really don't like HTC Sense and I find WM 6.5 ugly, cumberson and very un user friendy
Added to the fact that the app store is miles better than Market place the apps and widgets are generally of a very high standard and most are free...
I will never go back to Windows mobile now, completely hooked on android ..
- Speaksearch
- Augmented Reality (Goggles, Layar)
- Java Development
noris08 said:
i've testing android roms on my hd2 for a few weeks and i still have this question:
WHY A WM USER WOULD WANT ANDROID ON HIS/HERS HD2?
1. generaly a wm user doesn't like iOS (iphone). and android is in so many ways similar to ios
2. i can't find something that android could do and wm couldn't
3. i can't see any difference in speed or smoothness between wm and android
4. i can agree that the amount of applications or games is definetely higher on android, but one can find basicaly anything he/she wants also for wm
so, please guys let me know why do you want android on yours hd2
thank you!
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scbrother said:
Android is just better, even with some bugs.
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now, this is definetely a solid statement. can you bring some arguments equaly solid?
Jezwick said:
+1
for me the mail app and the google sync is miles apart from the rubbish windows dishes up
I really don't like HTC Sense and I find WM 6.5 ugly, cumberson and very un user friendy
Added to the fact that the app store is miles better than Market place the apps and widgets are generally of a very high standard and most are free...
I will never go back to Windows mobile now, completely hooked on android ..
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mail app and google sync - nonsense as wm has exchange and myphone for sync.
interface ugly - that's a question of taste, but you can personalise your interface in so many ways. take for instance maxsense or spb mobile shell. android interface is so iphoneish...
Luckeie said:
- Speaksearch
- Augmented Reality (Goggles, Layar)
- Java Development
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now this is something, although speak search you can have also in wm (bing for instance).
augumented reality - i don't know what that is and how can i use it on my android hd2
java development - is this important? in wich way?
for al 3 guys above - if android is so cool and wm is not, why don't you buy an android phone instead of using a wm phone with an imperfect android ported rom?
this is not a flame attempt is just an honest question
thank you all!
Personally Its about looks and widgets.
I know It sounds odd but I hate the look of winmo.
I also dont like having to scroll through a bunch of different screens when I can have a screen with a bunch of different info on it.
Sense on winmo comes across as a big hinderence. Only thing that made winmo bareable to me was cht and even that drove me crazy.
I always say this but as a user of all three os I am just more comfortable with android than anything else.
So i guess I would not consider myself a winmo user. I bought the phone with the intent on using android at some point.
It is hard to get people to adjust to something different. Most avid winmo users will say they like winmo better. Most avid android users will say that like android.
It all boils down to what you like.
If someone has always used intel and you get them to buy a amd when they get a virus they will blame you for suggesting the amd. I know this because I work retail. I have learned not to let my feelings or judgements get in the way.
So I say if you like winmo stick with it.
Old winmo is dead hopefully windows phone 7 can be ported to the hd2. Otherwise those who like winmo will be stuck doing it old school.
I'am waiting for the Motorola Defy. ;-)
I find the HD2 with WM also good. But i'am curious.
Bing? Speaksearch? How?
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for al 3 guys above - if android is so cool and wm is not, why don't you buy an android phone instead of using a wm phone with an imperfect android ported rom?
this is not a flame attempt is just an honest question
thank you all!
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As for why people dont flat out buy a android phone.
I am a t-mobile user. I do not wish to use sprint or verizon so that limits the number of phones I can use with the very large 4.3 inch screen.
We arent getting the Desire hd here in the Us. and frankly the samsung captivate is too small and missing led flash.
google 2 nexus 1 mytouch slide screens are all too small!
price is also important. If someone already has an hd2 why spend more money on a new phone when you can use android.
buggy as it maybe its pretty dang fantastic.
Turn by turn gps in Google maps is great. Windows mobile is dated. Looks basically the same as it did 8 or 9 years ago. It was designed to be used with a stylus and android was designed for touch. I don't know why people say android looks like i OS, it really looks nothing like it with widgets instead of page after page of apps.
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Turn by turn gps in Google maps is great. Windows mobile is dated. Looks basically the same as it did 8 or 9 years ago. It was designed to be used with a stylus and android was designed for touch. I don't know why people say android looks like i OS, it really looks nothing like it with widgets instead of page after page of apps.
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I agree sir I truly agree. I cant stand Ios personally.
Windows is unstable, it crashes at least once or twice a week without any heavy usage.
I went back to the HD2 after owning an iphone for 18 months, I didn't like the way apple control everything so went back to Windows and regretted it ever since. The iphone required maybe three or four reboots in 18 months.
Now I'm running Android on the HD2 and rarely drop back to windows for anything.
There are certainly problems at the moment with Android on the HD2, these will be overcome (remember these are really just beta versions at the moment) relatively quickly and we will have a stable operating system that is highly configurable and far far superior to Windows.
I'm using mdeejay_froyo_sense_v2.1a_ppp with a 2.12 radio and stock 02 uk Rom. I still lose signal occasionally with this release but no screen freezes after a week of heavy use. For me it is now more stable than windows.
guys, this is not wm vs android
please remember the question - Why do you want Android on HD2?
you all bought hd2 as a wm phone, so i find it odd that you say so many bad words about wm. did somebody twist your arms to buy hd2 or did you chose it freely?
i completely disagree with the guy saing wm is instable - on my hd2 i use custom roms and they are extremely stable (nrgz, miri&steve, indie to name just a few chefs)
turn by turn - almost any gps sofware has it
and wm may be outdated but on hd2 is very finger friendly. i don't see the need of a stylus no matter what i do
where i live a second hand hd2 is selling for 3-400Euros. with that money you can buy a samsung galaxy s - same size, even better technical specs
and yes, bing has speak search. in the home page you will see a small microphone icon. press it and the speak what you are looking for and wait for the magic
and as i said before, you can customize your interface in so many ways...
so, again, why android on hd2?
thank you!
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guys, this is not wm vs android
please remember the question - Why do you want Android on HD2?
you all bought hd2 as a wm phone, so i find it odd that you say so many bad words about wm. did somebody twist your arms to buy hd2 or did you chose it freely?
i completely disagree with the guy saing wm is instable - on my hd2 i use custom roms and they are extremely stable (nrgz, miri&steve, indie to name just a few chefs)
turn by turn - almost any gps sofware has it
and wm may be outdated but on hd2 is very finger friendly. i don't see the need of a stylus no matter what i do
where i live a second hand hd2 is selling for 3-400Euros. with that money you can buy a samsung galaxy s - same size, even better technical specs
and yes, bing has speak search. in the home page you will see a small microphone icon. press it and the speak what you are looking for and wait for the magic
and as i said before, you can customize your interface in so many ways...
so, again, why android on hd2?
thank you!
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We arent bashing windows mobile. These are our reasons as to why we want android on the hd2. A lot of regular users I know have had horrible experiences with the hd2. Most of the people I speak with hate the phone. The fact that they have winmo on the phone matters not to them.
You must have by passed the fact that I said the galaxy's screen is to small for me. Yes .3 inches matters and the fact that the galaxy s doesnt have led flash for camera's is a major kill
Like I said I chose it freely to put Android on it. When i got my phone The nexus 1 was the only android phone with decent spec's. Frankly the 3.7 inch screen is too small.
Why, because i can have Android on it, that's why
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Why, because i can have Android on it, that's why
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and if you have a gun you will start kill people just because you can?
please , how many clicks does it take in
wm/android
from lockscreen to enable wifi and go back to homescreen , 5/2
how many clicks does it take to disable orientation and go back to homescreen 6/1
how many clicks does it take to adust brightness and go back to homescreen 6/1
how many clicks does it takes to download email and fb updates after a successful wifi connect and go back to homescreen 6/0
cht may improve theese values ... but gimme a break with questions like theese , u do not deserve to run android on ur fone if u ask somthing like this
Honestly What is the point behind this question other than you just wanted to ask.
And while I do respect that you wanted to I ask I cant but wonder what you expect.
Each one of these members has a reason for wanting or not wanting android.
You really should consider accepting peoples reasons.
as you said I am not flaming I am just stating what I see.
I look forward to your response.
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please , how many clicks does it take in
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from lockscreen to enable wifi and go back to homescreen , 5/1
how many clicks does it take to disable orientation and go back to homescreen 6/1
how many clicks does it take to adust brightness and go back to homescreen 6/1
how many clicks does it takes to download email and fb updates and go back to homescreen 6/1
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Remember Windows mobile does have toggles and widgets
wait i know for sure it has toggles but widgets Im thinking not very many not that I could find anyway.
just an idea - if there is no "backward compability" for WM6,5 applications on WP7, then - from technical point of view - if anyone can install/move/copy the whole WM6,5 from HTC HD/HD2 to HTC HD7 or any of WP7 phones? I mean, are there any "hardwarish objections" for such operation?
The incompatibility issues alone and work required to do this would be immense
Also posted in wrong forum. All queries should be directed to General Forum which I've now moved it to
This is kinda funny, but I would love to see older OS(WM 6.1/6.5) on newer phones.
Why do we have to move to Windows Phone OS? We’re going from "pocket PC's" to "Smart Phones". That is a step backwards. I’ve got my HTC diamond 2 running perfect just want a faster phone, with HD Video cam. When I had a Samsung Omnia, I fixed all its problems by installing a moded HTC WM6.5 rom, I want a new HTC now, but hate WP7! I got into Xda's cos you can make um run how you want, WP7 is like why I hate the IPhone. I would love to get the HTC 7 Pro if I can just keep the OS I’m using on my HTC Diamond 2, its perfect now. I can’t be the only one that feels, windows phone is just windows mobile Basic.
Pleases give us our full OS back! or how's this. A choice of OS
Windows Phone X.X User
and
Windows Mobile X.X Pro
Does that make it less confusing? I really do want to know of a good 6.5 rom for the HD7 or 7 Pro are available. Thank you
P.s. what are non-phone PDA's going to run on? Is wm6.5 the last OS ever?
Windows phone 7 is a sh*t transition from windows mobile to full fledged operating system like Windows 7. WP7 sucks big time, no productivity for me.
It is all true... I'm totaly disapointed with my HT7 because of the WP7..
I need WM6.5 or at last Android on it...
Some one help us!!!
There are no devs to do this. They lack time, knowledge, drivers, blah blah.
We give them money, they won't do a sh**
Simply said, there is no community like it was few years ago. Shame.
that might be true, but nobody forced you to buy a device with an os, that you don't like, if you simply wanted to give different OSs a try, your best choice would have been a HD2, which handles wm6.5, 6.5.x, android, wp7, ubuntu, windows 95, 98 and meego. that way, if you are unsatisfied with either OS, you still have plenty of others to give a try.
I'm not a programmer, so I’m sorry if this is impossible for something I’ve not see. But couldn't someone make a rom file that you copy directly onto the inbuilt SD micro card. Of course this will mean hard resetting the phone it will install from the inbuilt Rom copy of WP7. But you just pop the card in a pc, maybe partition it 512MB program storage. And the other 14.5MB storage card (after lost formatting space.) I though the HD2 and HD7 are almost the same Xda device. Please PDA WinMobo OS's cant die! It does the most
All I want is Smartphone’s that work how I want, not how I’m told to use um.
Losing this is stepping back in time.
Thanks for reading Stu Jones
Enabling WM6.5 on HD7
Hi Guys,
I have been a PDA user and in particular a a windows mobile user for 7-8 years now. I am a total fan of modified ROMs and hats off to all those developers who have been developing modified ROMs on many various devices for many years now, I extend my appreciation and gratitude now. I have also been an xda-developers member for many years now, and have read many many posts and forum topics, so please disregard the post count as I didn't need to post in many cases.
I recently graduated; though I am a communications engineering graduate I did do embedded systems in my last year. Having said that, I am now in a position to start playing around with such devices and possibly do some development work.
I, like the people on this thread have mentioned, do not like WP7, the the fact that you cannot directly sync with outlook, and even worse, HD7 Pro has hardware keyboard that is completely useless and WP7 doesn't even go in to landscape mode unless typing up messages.
On the other hand, even though I appreciate Android, I do not like it either for various reasons I'd rather not delve in to. I am a fan of hardware keyboards, therefore I also had in my mind the possibility of porting WM6.5 to Desire Z though I have not even researched the feasibility of it yet.
Therefore, I announce to my fellow xda-developers.com users and readers of my intentions to begin work on porting WM6.5 to HD7. Though I do not have any experience or knowledge on the venture. The start will be a slow process and request the patience of everyone.
Having said that I would need a mentor when I run in to problems and when I need help. I would appreciate it if one of the more experienced developers here could express their willingness to help when needed I would be really grateful.
Having said that, those with experience, is there a good link you could give me where I could start reading up on what I need to learn about the device and the OS in question?
I presume I would need to know the specific system components of the HD7 and HD2, what components are identical, similar and different? I believe that the architecture is similar if not identical? Thanks.
Regards
Hi all, im new here to start join this site, because i just bought HTC HD2 started to use wm6.5, this site lot of information help me to choose the collect phone model before i buy it, before i was thinking of which OS is the best & use full for me, WM6.5? WP7? or Android? i need to choose the OS can support GMXT GPS its important for me travel lot, both of them WP7 & Android cant make it, so i choose HD2, i was bought 3 days ago in Vietnam HCMC, try to find best price in town, almost every sold out! get from website information for used HD2, almost sold out too, until 7th shop i get it, used but look new but is T mobile HD2, USD370 deal..
WP7 is a god send of an OS, I still use my WM oh my HD and ill come to that in a sec, but WP7 is actually very good, you do need to work with it for a while, but once you get used to it its amazing.
Now, WM 6.x is a beast of an OS, there is nothing out there quite like it, I believe in the next installment of MAGLDR they are looking to allow WM to be installed via magldr, this may open the way to allow SD/RAM builds of WM to run on a HD2 meaning, WP7, WM6.5 and android could all potentially be bootable at the same time
The differences between the HD2 and the HD7 are notable, its not a straight copy, unfortunately there is a big lack of intrest in WM so i would keep your eyes on android coming to the HD7, that will use something similar to MAGLDR and if thats the case you may find WM is installable as well.
DOnt hold your breath tho, we've been waiting for a new MAGLDR version for several months now and as i said, there are differences so there may well be serious driver related issues, which ironically is the stumbling block of WM! Had HTC and QC not shafted us with no driver support for the WM6.5 OS then it would actually be a modern day OS contender.
guys, that this up in the HD2 sectoin, this is for the Touch HD - the orginal
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guys, that this up in the HD2 sectoin, this is for the Touch HD - the orginal
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I know just being polite, someone asks, why not answer, the thread is after all already here
I have changed from a Windows Phone hater, to a Lover. Still think Win Mobile was the most advanced mobile OS ever, but WP is fast getting it all back :good:
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I now really have to say, I take back what I said. I originally posted on here saying I hated WP7 and wanted to flash to WM6.5. but since, just b4 Mango. I changed my mind. And have loved being along for the ride towards the superphones WP8. Miss MyMobiler and would be nice if you could run WM6.5 in a virtual environment on an unlocked device. Then I could still play with what I suppose are now legacy apps or .cab's as we used to know um. phone and sms wouldn't need to be in the V-OS rom as WM wasn't originally made for it just drop um. And V-drives would just appear as the app size as far as wp7 thinks just a dream/idea. I know that wouldn't be easy. but if anyone fancied the challenge advantage is it would work on all WP7> handsets
Windows Phone 7.5 is good now. If you tried it at the beginning and was thinking it was the windows iPhone. Thank god it's not!! It is diff to WM6.x but worth getting used to
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I would still like to see wm6.5 ported over along with wp8 since technically we have an sd card and we can have nfc sim cards.
There is a windows mobile emulator to wp7
http://www.xda-developers.com/windows-mobile/windows-mobile-running-on-windows-phone-7/
and here is one that maybe can be ported: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411154
I now really have to say, I take back what I said. I originally posted on here saying I hated WP7 and wanted to flash to WM6.5. but since, just b4 Mango. I changed my mind. And have loved being along for the ride towards the superphones WP8. Miss MyMobiler and would be nice if you could run WM6.5 in a virtual environment on an unlocked device. Then I could still play with what I suppose are now legacy apps or .cab's as we used to know um. phone and sms wouldn't need to be in the V-OS rom as WM wasn't originally made for it just drop um. And V-drives would just appear as the app size as far as wp7, Post above looks like what I mean. but can't be sure if true, or someone has made MyMobiler just remote desktop a WM6 device to WP7. will keep an eye out for the .Xap
Windows Phone 7.5 is good now. If you tried it at the beginning and was thinking it was the windows iPhone. Thank god it's not!! It is diff to WM6.x but worth getting used to
PS Please help me spared my Apple Hate Page on Facebook http://www.Facebook.com/AppleBull**** (Replace **** with "S H I T" Thank You)
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WP7 is a god send of an OS, I still use my WM oh my HD and ill come to that in a sec, but WP7 is actually very good, you do need to work with it for a while, but once you get used to it its amazing.
Now, WM 6.x is a beast of an OS, there is nothing out there quite like it, I believe in the next installment of MAGLDR they are looking to allow WM to be installed via magldr, this may open the way to allow SD/RAM builds of WM to run on a HD2 meaning, WP7, WM6.5 and android could all potentially be bootable at the same time
The differences between the HD2 and the HD7 are notable, its not a straight copy, unfortunately there is a big lack of intrest in WM so i would keep your eyes on android coming to the HD7, that will use something similar to MAGLDR and if thats the case you may find WM is installable as well.
DOnt hold your breath tho, we've been waiting for a new MAGLDR version for several months now and as i said, there are differences so there may well be serious driver related issues, which ironically is the stumbling block of WM! Had HTC and QC not shafted us with no driver support for the WM6.5 OS then it would actually be a modern day OS contender.
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