BIG-UPDATE
xda member Xifil spoke to a Sony Rep from London who put him in touch with a Sony Rep in Belguim or Sweden or somwhere cant remember then name but he knew more about the technology in the phone, and confirmed what i feared
xiFIL call to Sony Rep @ approx 20:30 18/02/2012
xiFIL: HI, its ******* from VODAFONE, i wanted to ask with regards to the technologies in the screen, we can be real with each other, i work for vodafone, work for a carrier, your Sony Rep referred me to you, how do you find the screen, how do you find the quality, do you believe the screen is up to par,
SONY REP: I'm going to be honest here, if you are someone who is an average user then the screen so much wouldn't matter much to you
but if it was me i would not buy the screen, there was no way for SONY to make a really slim device without putting an E-IPS cheaper screen in,
and because we know that everyone will not be happy with the screen, so we added the waterproof feature to subsidize for it.
xiFIL: The Dev unit had a really good screen though, it was good quality but several other devices i have tested were rubbish....?
SONY REP: The DEV units were made in Japan and came directly from there, and different to the production units, it is a variant of the Japanese variant without the branding, and all the developer tools,
The above conversation is not word for word but along those lines
SONY actually realized the xperia Z was not up to par, they still went ahead with the Z being rubbish, this is first hand news from a SONY REP WHO ADMITTED THEY HAVE NOT MADE A SCREEN UPTO PAR with current devices and gave it waterproofing to make up for the screen being rubbish, face it not one of us would have bought it with a inferior screen if it does not have the IP ratings!
Believe it if you want or stay in denial, but you will see after launch, the Japs seem to have got a better variant but we have been had off!
UPDATE
kyogiro said:
Both, poor contrast and washed out colors. It is the unit that being demoed at the Paris Sony Store.
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shem2409 said:
I was better but still not perfect. The screen just lacks vibrancy, it appears kinda dull. I mean it is beautiful when you view images and videos, but when you compare it to any other device you feel like there is something missing in presentation of colors. As I said before, though the blacks are deep and I don't think that there is any problems with the viewing angles. The screen appears very reflective, but the one I looked at lacked the screen protector supplied with the phone (which maybe corrects that a little bit)
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kyogiro said:
I got the same impression when testing the device for 30 minutes. Te difference, screen wise, is stunning when I was running YouTube (for some reason or maybe it's normal, the bravia engine didn't kick in) or playing the installed game, Temple Run 2.
What is even more troublesome is the fact that the problem is not officially recognized by Sony, so it's highly possible that some of the customers will end up with the bad unit. While I was told the test models were demo ones, I got very worried reading the Gsmarena review because they specifically requested another unit after their first XZ's preview and getting, surprisingly a bad screen.
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I have some bad news, There is a reason why the Sony store devices had a washed out device,
I just spoke to XDA member xiFIL, and my worst fears have come true, his Vodafone store received batches of the Z today in preparation for launch, These were final units not dev units, the boxes had IMEI numbers on it and serial numbers etc, they took out a few devices where the boxes got damaged in transit and tested them to make sure they work as well as testing the whole batch for quality control.
His Dev unit was special and it had a really good screen like the Docomo units BUT
The screens on the final units received at his store today look washed out like the demo units, to top this off he checked several devices in case it was just one device that had a faulty screen AND all of them looked like the demo units with washed out colours exactly as described in the paris sony store and by shem2409, there is no production unit and demo unit theory, why would SONY put rubbish screens in the demo and then better ones in the actual product, no there was no cost saving, the JAPS just gave themselves a better screen than the rest of the world, THIS IS IT!, this is what you will get nothing else, all hope was lost today and i am probably going to cancel my Pre-order,
There is no trolling, there is no hating on the device, it is the simple truth, Sony just put a 2012 screen on a 2013 device,
So many people have seen the live units at phones 4 u, at a sony store and all agree with the above.
OLD NEWS
One question posed was whether the Sony Xperia Z uses an IPS screen or not due to so much negativity regarding pre-production models being washed out with poor viewing angles.
It did state it in the Sony blog last year they were going to use JDI who manufacture IPS screens and also remove a layer of air between the screen and glass.
It appears Sony may have lived up to its claim and the Screen looks brilliant with good viewing angles!
After carefully analyzing the videos very closely, i see the display does not wash out at like the demo units do and the viewing angles and color seem to be on par with the S3 or One X
more videos below!
I have seen two demo units in two different retail stores and have to say the videos below are definitely better.
please watch video on youtube full screen in HD mode on a big screen and see for yourself,
XDA User Shem2409 went to the Sony Center today and took a short video in which he demoed the screen viewing angles, brightness and color as best as possible.
Here is his video:
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here are is the Japanese live model video so now stop slating and trolling the phone after reading sh!tty preview demo reviews and wait for the real thing to come out!
Also if you watch this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=lgsYDXmdVzc#t=130s
forward to 2 minutes and 10 seconds, while the phone is booting up, the screen dims a little and all of a sudden it gives better black levels at 2:17
video is also here if you manually forward
Apparently this is the calibration tool which will be provided on the Z to calibrate our own display colour
A Sony representative also claimed the pre-production/DEMO/beta models were made using cheap materials and also the screen was glued by hand and not set properly as the production models, simply because they wanted the devices to be ready for CES 2013 and due to the amount of demo units they wanted to send out asap and that the production models would be better.
So now if you wanna be gangster and look at your phone sideways, you can!
I will give a full review of the screen and phone once i get my phone on the 28th
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I believe it is not an IPS display.
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DdcCabuslay said:
I believe it is not an IPS display.
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That is what i thought but then i saw this
We previously reported on the fact that at least one of Sony Mobile’s upcoming 2013 flagship is likely to feature a 5-inch (1920 x 1080) display with an impressive 443 PPI. The display will be developed by Japan Display Inc (JDI) and the press release published in early October suggested it would be a TFT-LCD IPS display in RGB configuration.
on this
http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/10/2...0p-display-may-feature-whitemagic-technology/
???
no it doesnt
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36943663&posted=1#post36943663
xl VipeR lx said:
Does anyone know wether the Z features an IPS screen or not. It did state it in the sony blog last year.
Also how does one feel about the viewing angles? and its negative publicity at the moment?
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I remember reading somewere (watched so many xperia Z videos i lost track ) that the xperia Z is actually IPS and that the demo units were TFT screens and that, but this hasn't been confirmed, nor does it seem to be true as no sony representatives have mentioned it, not unlikely though
Oh dear lord how many times do we have to say it.
The Xperia Z DOES HAVE AN IPS DISPLAY. NOT ALL IPS DISPLAYS HAVE THE SAME VIEWING ANGLES.
Also, IPS is still TFT. It is an IPS TFT LCD. The display you're thinking of with the really bad viewing angles that change colours under an angle are TN TFT LCD's. Have a look here for more about that: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36852469&postcount=100
The Xperia Z uses this display: http://www.j-display.com/english/news/2012/20121004.html
Well as of whatever i havve seen on youtube..The only problem with the display is the viewing angles...The screen looks washed out..Otherwise using it straight [which is 90% of the time] its a great screen. Just coz of the TFT nature it has this problem and IPS does not solve it.
Ambroos said:
Oh dear lord how many times do we have to say it.
The Xperia Z DOES HAVE AN IPS DISPLAY. NOT ALL IPS DISPLAYS HAVE THE SAME VIEWING ANGLES.
Also, IPS is still TFT. It is an IPS TFT LCD. The display you're thinking of with the really bad viewing angles that change colours under an angle are TN TFT LCD's. Have a look here for more about that: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36852469&postcount=100
The Xperia Z uses this display: http://www.j-display.com/english/news/2012/20121004.html
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Good point, in any case if the viewing angles/colours are washed out then they included a screen colour colaborator so there is no need to root it, instead you can do it straight from the device.
The IPS doesnt help it in viewing angles though..it looks washed out!
Who cares, I look at my phone straight on, why would you want to look at your phone on a slant, are you a *gangsta* ?
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techguyone said:
Who cares, I look at my phone straight on, why would you want to look at your phone on a slant, are you a *gangsta* ?
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Ye br0 I haz Da [email protected] dog
Lmfao i jk but I do agree with you. I never saw a reason for viewing angles since 90% of the time you look at the phone straight on.
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Display video comparison - Xperia Z vs Galaxy S3
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Superior Auto and Exmor RS for mobile work together so you can capture the best possible photos in all light conditions with Xperia Z.
The display isn't washed out on a side angle. All the display rumors are false and they might just be propaganda of other OEM companies.
Take a look at this images(not intended for display comparison) if you see any washed out displays on them.
The ones you see with bad displays were taken by smartass photographers which were paid by other companies to destroy the image of Xperia Z/ZL. Come on guys I know you're all smarter than this
i worry the lifetime
Ambroos said:
Oh dear lord how many times do we have to say it.
The Xperia Z DOES HAVE AN IPS DISPLAY. NOT ALL IPS DISPLAYS HAVE THE SAME VIEWING ANGLES.
Also, IPS is still TFT. It is an IPS TFT LCD. The display you're thinking of with the really bad viewing angles that change colours under an angle are TN TFT LCD's. Have a look here for more about that: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36852469&postcount=100
The Xperia Z uses this display: http://www.j-display.com/english/news/2012/20121004.html
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yup, i don't worry about TFT or IPS TFT... i only worry about the lifetime of Full HD displays... to high PPI
i think the screen is very impressive, and i want it at dayone!!!
Washed out screen
One problem i do have with the device though, is its washed out colours, it just looks seriously washed out, i mean wtf, i hope the screen calaborator can be of good use, because for a 1080p phone with that kind of PPI, its a disappointment, it shall still be getting bought mind you!:angel:
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The screen definitely doesn't have washed out colors. Viewing angles could be better but colors are great, also color calibration is built into the display settings.
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REAVER117 said:
The screen definitely doesn't have washed out colors. Viewing angles could be better but colors are great, also color calibration is built into the display settings.
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The washed out issiue is just because the devices shown were made by hand means that the display and the kristallglass were not glued together that's because they look washed out
Believe me
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im lookig forward to buy this phone. just want to know if its display is IPS or just a regular Lcd panel ? is colour quality same as 2013 moto g ?
First of all, there is no "regular" LCD screens. All LCDs use some type of screen technology, wether it's TN, IPS, PLS, VA or something else.
That beeing said, the Moto X Play does have a IPS LCD.
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First of all, there is no "regular" LCD screens. All LCDs use some type of screen technology, wether it's TN, IPS, PLS, VA or something else.
That beeing said, the Moto X Play does have a IPS LCD.
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by regular i meant TN/tft etc. since those doesn't have great colours and viewing angles.