I'm surprised to say there is a lot to like about TouchWiz, but there is one area that I hate.
The separation of the dialer and contacts...
When you go into contacts there is no way to get to the dialer, or even see your favorites. They have done a pretty good job at separating the two, dialer and contact.
IMO in the dialer they need to dump the "voicemail" "groups" and "updates" tabs and just go back to plain android with tabs for "phone" "call log" "contacts" and "favorites" that displayed whether in contacts or dialer, essentially it was one app.
"groups" could be accessed with the menu button and "updates" could be a standalone app or widget.
/end rant
I do really like that with the dialer you can now search contact with the number pad. I also really like the addition of the alphabet on the side of contacts, much better then dragging the cursor.
Umm... There's a contacts button on the bottom right of the dialer...
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gravis86 said:
Umm... There's a contacts button on the bottom right of the dialer...
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lmao!
To [OP] just remove the contact icon from your home screen/dock.
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Umm... There's a contacts button on the bottom right of the dialer...
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And that would be great if I wanted to get from dialer to contacts... that was not what I asked, reading comprehension fail.
how do you get from contacts to dialer?
SykesAT said:
When you go into contacts there is no way to get to the dialer, or even see your favorites.
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SykesAT said:
And that would be great if I wanted to get from dialer to contacts... that was not what I asked, reading comprehension fail.
how do you get from contacts to dialer?
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Open the dialer, if you want contacts click the contacts button, then if you want dialer press back.
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And that would be great if I wanted to get from dialer to contacts... that was not what I asked, reading comprehension fail.
how do you get from contacts to dialer?
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Put your finger on the contact you would like to call and swipe to the right.
Or enter the contacts from the dialer and click back if you need to go back to the dialer.
SykesAT said:
And that would be great if I wanted to get from dialer to contacts... that was not what I asked, reading comprehension fail.
how do you get from contacts to dialer?
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More like Android comprehension fail! To go from contacts to dialer, touch the icon of the person you want to call and then press the dialer icon...
I have never needed to go to the dialer from the contacts section unless I am calling a contact that I looked up (which has a couple of ways to accomplish). Out of curiosity... Under what circumstances would you need to go to the Contacts and then get to the dialer without calling one of the contacts you just looked up?
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Open the dialer, if you want contacts click the contacts button, then if you want dialer press back.
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Yea, this is what I have been doing but to have uniformed tabs in both contacts and dialer could make it so much easier...
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More like Android comprehension fail! To go from contacts to dialer, touch the icon of the person you want to call and then press the dialer icon...
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Sorry but that dials a contact. It does not take me back to the dialer.
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I have never needed to go to the dialer from the contacts section unless I am calling a contact that I looked up (which has a couple of ways to accomplish). Out of curiosity... Under what circumstances would you need to go to the Contacts and then get to the dialer without calling one of the contacts you just looked up?
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I agree if you go to look someone up then you are going to call them, hence the need to access to the dialer is moot. Its just coming from plain android where both the contacts and dialer have the same tabs (dialer, contact, call log and favorites) it was easy to do any and all calling action from one app. This also meant that you only need to have one icon in your dock. I'm used to just having contacts in my dock with no dialer. Now I actually have to think about it, I often have issues when thinking
Oh another reason I don't like this setup... So you go into your contacts to dial a contact who is a favorite... Well for this contact you actually have to open the dialer to access that list, unless you want to spend the time scrolling through all contact to find this "favorite"... Yet again I have to apply brain...
It would be more complete and simpler to have dialer, contact, call log and favorites tabs for both contacts and dialer.
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This also meant that you only need to have one icon in your dock. I'm used to just having contacts in my dock with no dialer. Now I actually have to think about it, I often have issues when thinking
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That makes sense. I am all for minimizing the number of icons but I have always had both so I didn't notice the difference.
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Oh another reason I don't like this setup... So you go into your contacts to dial a contact who is a favorite... Well for this contact you actually have to open the dialer to access that list, unless you want to spend the time scrolling through all contact to find this "favorite"... Yet again I have to apply brain...
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I understand you want them to be the same, but is this not solved by not going into contacts in the first place? You want a favorite, open dialer. You want to dial, open dialer. You want to call someone so you open dialer, if you don't know their number and they aren't a favorite press the little icon for contacts in the dialer. Just don't click the contacts icon to begin with at all and I don't see the issue.
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I understand you want them to be the same, but is this not solved by not going into contacts in the first place? You want a favorite, open dialer. You want to dial, open dialer. You want to call someone so you open dialer, if you don't know their number and they aren't a favorite press the little icon for contacts in the dialer. Just don't click the contacts icon to begin with at all and I don't see the issue.
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This is probably why the dialer is permanently in the dock and the others can be changed...
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I understand you want them to be the same, but is this not solved by not going into contacts in the first place? You want a favorite, open dialer. You want to dial, open dialer. You want to call someone so you open dialer, if you don't know their number and they aren't a favorite press the little icon for contacts in the dialer. Just don't click the contacts icon to begin with at all and I don't see the issue.
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well yes but... plain android did it so well.
I'm going to the corner now to have a pity party all alone.
Related
I'm familiar with s2u2 but its s2a function doesn't always come up, meaning i cant answer the incoming call.
blackstone dialer doesn't work properly, something about me having an x1a.
What i'd love is to have the s2a feature from this w/o the dialer
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=53599
is this doable or are they inseparable? Or is there a solution out there i dont know about?
Thx.
ps. i also tried Inesoft phone 4 but it replaces the dialer and the contacts screen.
31073 said:
ps. i also tried Inesoft phone 4 but it replaces the dialer and the contacts screen.
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You can disable the Inesoft dialer, contact screen, call history etc and just use the caller ID function. That's what I do.
PatStone74 said:
You can disable the Inesoft dialer, contact screen, call history etc and just use the caller ID function. That's what I do.
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Hey can you provide a small tutorial on how to do that? Maybe i didn't explore the options well enough, but didn't find it
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You can disable the Inesoft dialer, contact screen, call history etc and just use the caller ID function. That's what I do.
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I use inesoft phone 4 and am very happy with the caler id function too.
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You can disable the Inesoft dialer, contact screen, call history etc and just use the caller ID function. That's what I do.
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when i had the trial i couldnt find where to disable those function. how do i do that?
Also is there a free solution? Even w/ a dialer if it has similar features to the standard xperia dialer.
Since the Contact app that comes with the Vibrant is nothing I want to use. Is there a way to get back one similar to the contact app on the G1 that syncs with just my google contacts?
Umm what's wrong with the default one? It's pretty awesome. If you just want to view google contacts then go to menu and go to display options
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^^ you clearly have not utilized contacts correctly. Tons of good stuff in Contacts. Did you check the sticky? I tried to point out a lot of the features and how to make things function better. I would start off by hitting menu > Display Options > and have only your google account sync (and check to only show contacts with phone #s).
In Contacts you can slide the pic left or right to call/text
You can press the letters running down the right side for a quick jump (much better than the old slide).
You can click on the pic for multiple ways to communicate with a contact....
so so so much better. Not sure how you could say your G1 was better, and I have a g1.
This is by far the best contact app that i've seen on any android phone.
I just got my phone today and when I txt someone it shows up as their phone number instead of their contact name. Any idea on how to change it?
^ is the person added as a contact, and is their # stored as a mobile?
Yes to both
I believe OP said the Touchwiz contact app is "nothing I want to use". Why do you all insist on trying to convince this person they are wrong. It's a matter of preference. I happen to agree with OP. In spite of a few nifty enhancements, I much prefer the G1 with it's AUTOMATIC and COMPLETE sync to the web. I don't want to have to go through all the levels of hell to sync Google contacts with phone contacts with SIM contacts just to assign a custom ringtone. So for those of us who prefer the stock Android contacts, either offer some constructive assistance or don't post. If OP had wanted to know why he/she should keep the TW contacts or the benefits of that app, I'm sure the question would have been asked that way.
So...anybody with an answer to the original question?
Agreed on the TW contacts. Really nice features, but the quirks are too aggravating to make it a serious contacts app.
It's indeed a personal preference.
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^ what quirks are there?
Zas wa posted above its not a matter of all the fancy pizzazz. I just need a basic contact manager that syncs properly and efficiently. The rest is pretty useless for me personally.
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^ what quirks are there?
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The two biggies for me are...
1. Not being able to show groups from Goog contacts. I know about showing only those with phone numbers, but that's a kludge.
2. Not being able to assign custom ring tones unless the contact is stored on phone. On phone storage should be banished from an Android phone IMO.
It's not all bad. I like the linking, the swiping to call or text, and the favorites as grid view. But the 2 quirks are huge for me.
As wonderful as some of the options are in the new contact manager, I am absolutely dumbfounded at the lack of integration. Why does it grab everything, and not just my contacts? Why doesn't it automatically allow individual ringtones? Why can I not create groups from my google contacts that are not linked on the phone?
I use a contact manager to manage my contacts, and the fact that I have to manually do so much to make this thing work makes a poor excuse for a contact manager.
The program should:
1. Import and sync all contacts from all areas completely and efficiently.
2. Allow you to specify any additional syncing you require.
3. Bring in *only* your contacts and not your cached addresses.
4. Automatically give them phone level access and group access regardless of the source. *putting them in a group called google and not allowing me an easy method to move them is pointless*.
Bottom line the contact manager is a fail in my opinion. If someone can point me to how to accomplish the above without having to create a phone contact for every contact I have or hiding ones with out numbers (which only partially works). I will enjoy using the product and apologize.
I wonder happens when you factory reset your device, does it lose your phone contacts? If so that is an even bigger fail because it requires you to recreate them all. The fact that I have to go to a forum to figure this crap out, and possibly use third party software to back it up in case god forbid I need to a factory reset is just stupid in my opinion.
ytj87 said:
The two biggies for me are...
1. Not being able to show groups from Goog contacts. I know about showing only those with phone numbers, but that's a kludge.
2. Not being able to assign custom ring tones unless the contact is stored on phone. On phone storage should be banished from an Android phone IMO.
It's not all bad. I like the linking, the swiping to call or text, and the favorites as grid view. But the 2 quirks are huge for me.
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I couldn't say it better. The not being allowed to use custom ring tones for G-Mail contacts is ridiculous.
PS. is their a batch function to transfer all the G-Mail contacts to the phone, or do I have to manually do it one by one?
I have only been able to do it one by one. You make a phone contact with same name and ir autolinks. Bwst I been able to get.
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Propheous said:
I have only been able to do it one by one. You make a phone contact with same name and ir autolinks. Bwst I been able to get.
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There's an app in the market that does this.
Contacts to SD, or something.
-bZj
Anyone find a way to enable the old "send directly to voicemail" option on the new contacts? that's bugging me not having that.(sometimes you just don't want to hear from someone.)
Totally agreed on the SEND DIRECTLY TO VM and the fact that I can't sync my Google Contacts Groups on my phone. Serious Fail.
My question is, if I flash to the Cyanogen ROM for the Vibrant, will this functionality come back?
jamesd86 said:
Anyone find a way to enable the old "send directly to voicemail" option on the new contacts? that's bugging me not having that.(sometimes you just don't want to hear from someone.)
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It doesn't work ahead of time, but:
from your Call Log, long-press on the number > Add to reject list
This list is manageable somewhere in Settings, I forget where.
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down8 said:
It doesn't work ahead of time, but:
from your Call Log, long-press on the number > Add to reject list
This list is manageable somewhere in Settings, I forget where.
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Does that make it so the person can leave a message? or does the reject make the call not go through, thus no voicemail? i ask because i really only use it to screen calls from work, but they have to be able to leave a message or i'll get in trouble.
Tired of your old contact list? Want a new T9 dialer? Try out AContact, a fully customizable contact app with a brand new dialer. AContact is the only Contact manager that has a smooth scrollable user interface, so you never have to reach to the top of the screen to switch between tabs.
Features:
* T9 search/dialer pad.
* Customizable screens, mix & match functions you like.
* Adjustable text size, small or big as you wish.
* The only dialer app with full group support for Google account.
* Customizable contact list.
* Three keyboard style in contact list: collapsible bottom keyboard, right side vertical IPhone like keyboard, no keyboard.
* Filterable call history, favorite contact list.
* Delete/Clean call log by contact name or number.
Attached with this thread is a beta version of the next release. We would like to know how everyone think about this.
If you want to install the one from Google's Android Market(previous version), just search "movesti" in android market, then look for AContact.
Very very nice application you have got here. A huge improvement on the stock android interface, and much better than any other contact app I have used, including HTC dialer I would happily buy this on the market when it becomes a fully complete application. The only suggestion/amendment I would make, its to have the android status bar enabled as standard (not full screen mode) I think it may confuse less tech savvy users.
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Very very nice application you have got here. A huge improvement on the stock android interface, and much better than any other contact app I have used, including HTC dialer I would happily buy this on the market when it becomes a fully complete application. The only suggestion/amendment I would make, its to have the android status bar enabled as standard (not full screen mode) I think it may confuse less tech savvy users.
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Yeah, We thought about this as well. The problem is, on some small screens, there won't be much space left if not in full screen mode. Probably we should set a default value based on the screen resolution of user's phone.
Wow, probably the best I've used.
I think I saw this app a few months ago when it had a blue ui that I wasn't really a fan of and no icon. Whatever the case, this looks and works amazing (and I'm a big fan of applications that you can swipe through like this). And the dialer feels really nice as well.
Great job.
syrenz said:
Wow, probably the best I've used.
I think I saw this app a few months ago when it had a blue ui that I wasn't really a fan of and no icon. Whatever the case, this looks and works amazing (and I'm a big fan of applications that you can swipe through like this). And the dialer feels really nice as well.
Great job.
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Thanks
Yeah, we posted a while back in the themes forum, asking for some idea of themes. Now this is implemented in the app.
Its a great dialer! However i would like to suggest adding company name in the T9 search fields, and adding it in the contact details which are displayed in dialer screen.
This would be great!
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Its a great dialer! However i would like to suggest adding company name in the T9 search fields, and adding it in the contact details which are displayed in dialer screen.
This would be great!
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We have plans to add more support for displaying extra information. You would be able to select what information to display together with contact names, company name, email address etc...
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SimonVT said:
Looks good. I'd like to suggest having seperate icons for the dialer tab and the contacts tab. Would make it more useful when putting it on the launcher dock.
Other than that, great work!
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Good idea, will add that in the next releases.
Unusable on froyo dell streak. App will not go to portrait mode. Stuck in landscape.
Would also like clearer dialpad with better contrast
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Krad said:
Unusable on froyo dell streak. App will not go to portrait mode. Stuck in landscape.
Would also like clearer dialpad with better contrast
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Sorry landscape is not supported right now. A lot work need to be done in order to support that.
A (maybe known) bug: When calling to a contact from the dialer screen with a single tap - its calling the first phone number. Its not reading the default (primary) number from contacts database.
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A (maybe known) bug: When calling to a contact from the dialer screen with a single tap - its calling the first phone number. Its not reading the default (primary) number from contacts database.
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When there is no input in the dialer, it shows the recent call log, and if you press the dial button then, it'll call that number in the log, as the dialer assumes you are calling an entry from the call log.
If you input some texts into the dialer, a matched contact list will show up, if you press to call any contact then, it'll call that contact's primary number.
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When there is no input in the dialer, it shows the recent call log, and if you press the dial button then, it'll call that number in the log, as the dialer assumes you are calling an entry from the call log.
If you input some texts into the dialer, a matched contact list will show up, if you press to call any contact then, it'll call that contact's primary number.
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I agree - that's a possible behavior. The other way is when I input some text, and there is a match - first check if there's a recent call, and if that's true - offer that number; if false offer contacts primary number.
Anyway this is not the case for me.
Scenario:
Contact with a home and mobile number;
Search for that contact
Dialer offers to dial home number, but the mobile number is set as a primary number.
The primary number is set through Sense.
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I agree - that's a possible behavior. The other way is when I input some text, and there is a match - first check if there's a recent call, and if that's true - offer that number; if false offer contacts primary number.
Anyway this is not the case for me.
Scenario:
Contact with a home and mobile number;
Search for that contact
Dialer offers to dial home number, but the mobile number is set as a primary number.
The primary number is set through Sense.
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I see what you mean.
Right now, when you input some digits, what happens is
1. contact display name is searched,
2. contact number is searched.
Your call history is not searched (We should change to include that as well)
For your problem, the primary number dialing, we'll go and find a htc sense see if that happens. Probably there is some difference between sense and google's default implementation.
Anyway, will let you know when we figure that out.
Very nice work indeed!
I hope you can make a version what can totally replace the AOSP stock version - this one is way more superior!
A few additions:
- Add Facebook and Twitter accounts' contacts' images syncing - for now, any other contact than the GMail ones have no image (stock image)
- Add option for special sorting of names, and special name display. Like, here in Hungary, we say "Smith Jonathan" (translated name) instead of "Jonathan Smith" or "Smith, Jonathan". The best would be if it could be controlled by language files. Also, I am going to make the Hungarian language, want it?
- The favorite screen's selection has the good old Android background light-up. Can you remove that?
For now, that's all the problem I've found, but still experimenting around it
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Very nice work indeed!
I hope you can make a version what can totally replace the AOSP stock version - this one is way more superior!
A few additions:
- Add Facebook and Twitter accounts' contacts' images syncing - for now, any other contact than the GMail ones have no image (stock image)
- Add option for special sorting of names, and special name display. Like, here in Hungary, we say "Smith Jonathan" (translated name) instead of "Jonathan Smith" or "Smith, Jonathan". The best would be if it could be controlled by language files. Also, I am going to make the Hungarian language, want it?
- The favorite screen's selection has the good old Android background light-up. Can you remove that?
For now, that's all the problem I've found, but still experimenting around it
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Thanks for the suggestions. They are all good ones
* For Facebook and twitter contacts, we still have to invest some more time, but it will be there.
* We already have support for sorting by first & last name, no name display though, we plan to add that very soon.
* We plan to add more language support after we implement themes, it would be great if we can use some help. Could you send a email to us [email protected] so we know how to reach you then.
* what is the " good old Android background light-up"?
Another HTC Sense (maybe) related bug:
I keep my contacts synced with my google account and facebook for htc sense. But in phonebook (people) options I've set the view option - only show google contacts. So the result is I can not see facebook contacts in htc or acontact dialer. Nothings wrong here.
But...:
Let's say I have John A. - a facebook contact
I have also John B. - a google contact.
So I am searching for John from dialer screen.
There's a result - John B.
When I select John B. its calling John A.
It may create some awkward situations
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Another HTC Sense (maybe) related bug:
I keep my contacts synced with my google account and facebook for htc sense. But in phonebook (people) options I've set the view option - only show google contacts. So the result is I can not see facebook contacts in htc or acontact dialer. Nothings wrong here.
But...:
Let's say I have John A. - a facebook contact
I have also John B. - a google contact.
So I am searching for John from dialer screen.
There's a result - John B.
When I select John B. its calling John A.
It may create some awkward situations
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That looks like a big problem - calling the wrong number.
Could you send us an email [email protected] so we can keep track of this problem.
We don't have facebook access here so can't test it.
For the primary number problem, I have tested it on htc desire, 2.1 android, it's showing two entries for two different numbers. Not sure how to make it one entry. Will try to find other phones to test.
What's the quickest way of selecting a contact from the contact list by name, if I don't want to scroll through all 600 of my contacts to find them? I could flip open the hardware keyboard, but is there a way of popping up the soft keyboard so that I can type the first couple of letters of their name?
There are dialer apps where you can search via t9. Dialer One is one of them, and so is GO Contacts.
LagunaCid said:
There are dialer apps where you can search via t9. Dialer One is one of them, and so is GO Contacts.
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I tried the others and TouchPal Dialer worked and looked best for me.
If I'm on any of the homescreens, I just tap the search button and enter the first few letters of the contact. It also works when in the contacts list.
do you have HTC Sense on your phone? if you do, you can use the numbers that have the letters of the contact you want to search. for example if you want to search for adam, you press 2326 and it pulls up adam
If you have the Google search widget on your desktop you can tap the "g" and tap contacts to search from there using the soft keyboard.
I'm just venting here, but I actually find it quite ridiculous that the vanilla dialer on android does not have smart dialing. The vanilla dialer is useless.
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Sorry for this rant but I am finding it more difficult to live with these Issues everyday..
1. The call history list all calls (dialed, missed, received) and Messages as well! this is annoying, I dont want to see my message history in my call log, and there is no way to hide it except to view by just one call category, Dialed, missed or received.
2. Dialing a contact by name from the phone key pad, I can only search by the First name and not by second name, On my htc Desire/HD I could very well search by any of the names listed for a contact but unable to do so on this phone, this is really annoying as well.
3. Pull down notification bar would not work in the middle of a call unless I go to the home screen.. not cool.
If anyone knows a work around or other roms that addresses these issue please feel free to recommend.
Thanks in advance.
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2. Dialing a contact by name from the phone key pad, I can only search by the First name and not by second name, On my htc Desire/HD I could very well search by any of the names listed for a contact but unable to do so on this phone, this is really annoying as well.
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this kills me on my Captivate. I need to search for a workaround
Here you have a way to remove the SMS from the log http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1167662 you need to have a rooted phone and I am not completly sure if it is for SGS2 or 1...
I use go dealer, try it as welk as thema other go stuff
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I use go dealer, try it as welk as thema other go stuff
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Thanks for this , definitely prefer this to stock dailer ...
Try "Dialer One" from the market, it works very similar to the htc desire. And is very customable.