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Are You Bored of your HD2?

My phone history is no small list i've tried pretty much everything out there From N97, to Blackberry 9700... HD2 cought my eye because i originally had the HD, however it seems that i'm getting the itch to move on to possibly the N900 or E72
Anyways just wondering what your experiences have been like with your device, and what are your most cool applications?

I change phones quite often too. My last phone in fact was a N900. Great phone yet I felt it was a bit slow. So far I am loving the hd2 and don't have plans to switch for quite some time. With every phone there was always something that bothered me. I thought Windows mobile would be it but so far it has been great. My only past issue was with a touch diamond being a bit sluggish, this hd2 definitely does not have that problem.
I could possibly see a jump to the N900, but an E72 (used to own an E71)?! No way. Using symbian is like jumping through a time warp to the past.

i know im lil off topic but i feel you guys on never finding perfect phone before one i got now. I dont mean to push android on WM guys but other then lil lag sometimes its been best phone for me.

It's gonna take a real monster of a phone for me to even think about considering getting rid of my HD2.
I've never been as happy with a phone as I am with this, and I don't think I'll start having wandering eyes for a looooooooong time!

wait till Winmo 7 comes. I reckon it will be a real sweet OS
I also change phones quite often. I always loved my iphone 3GS, but the HD2 has kept my attention for a while now. It does everything my iphone used to do for me.
I think once Microsoft implements Xbox live games into winmo, we'll all be laughing!

I'll get bored when they have a dual core 1.5 GHz Snapdragon or Tegra 2 HD3 with WM7

DMAND said:
I'll get bored when they have a dual core 1.5 GHz Snapdragon or Tegra 2 HD3 with WM7
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And AT LEAST a 4.7" screen. lol - I wouldn't really want one that big, but I definitely don't want smaller!

johncmolyneux said:
And AT LEAST a 4.7" screen. lol - I wouldn't really want one that big, but I definitely don't want smaller!
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I wouldn't mind an even bigger screen. They could do it with the hd2 by removing the border around the lcd. Imagine nothing but screen corner to corner.

in the end it's still a phone.. doesn't have wheels or boobs..

The experience of the HD2 in most cases spoils you, and you will find it difficult to use a phone with a smaller screen. Apart from the earpiece quality at the higher frequencies, i am completly happy with this phone having owned about 10 different phones including iphone.

bel_z_bub said:
in the end it's still a phone.. doesn't have wheels or boobs..
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But I heard that on WM7 it will preform BJ's .

I must say, the HD2 is one of the best phone I came across.
I've worked over 2 years as the buyer for a multimedia chain and got the oppertunity to test drive a whole lot of device.
Also I'm using a ppc over 7 years now and untill the HD2 there were only 2 devices who have the "professional"/fun factor that the HD2 has.
And that was the Magician and the Universal.
Now I don't argue about the N900 because he has a "full" linux on it and for the linux guru's this is a wonderfull device. But if you aren't that good or fond in Linux then there is nothing special on the N900, and he is idd quite slow in normal use.
The other problem is that several years ago people did not compare a ppc with a normal phone (nokia symbian and etc...) but the mainstream users now also want a pcc thus the discussing is started... (certainly no personal blame meant)

I have no intentions of getting rid of the HD2 until there is a Nvidia Tegra powered platform available running WinMo7 with a screen equal to or bigger than the HD2.
The extra screen size compared to other mobiles on the market today really does make all the difference. I see people considering exchanging their HD2 for the Nexus One, but personally I find the screen a real letdown after being used to my HTC.
The one thing that does bug me about it is the low capacity battery included but, touch wood, so far I've managed to keep it running 24/7 by charging thru the night and every now and again in the car. Not enough of a let down for me to start looking at other handsets anyhow.

emigrating said:
The one thing that does bug me about it is the low capacity battery included but, touch wood, so far I've managed to keep it running 24/7 by charging thru the night and every now and again in the car. Not enough of a let down for me to start looking at other handsets anyhow.
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That is a serious battery drain, do you work so much on your device?
Eg I use my device constantly, 15 sms/day, 1 a 2hours phone, 30min surfing wifi and or hspda and I can do over a day and a half with one battery charge

This topics makes me laugh (not being offensive).
But it's pretty difficult to get bored of it. Of course we could have much more action on it but i'm sure in time we will have that also.

I cant see myself getting bored of the HTC HD2 anytime soon. Still got lots to do to it. Custom Roms, writing my own apps etc. Once i have it perfect then I will be using it until my contract runs out and i can get the latest super phone for free

Seeing as I have just discovered 800x480 encoding of 720p videos using WinMenc makes amazingly clear videos, and the demo of Electopia showing OpenGL 2.0 capabilities, I don't see myself getting bored any time soon.

thomas_pieps said:
That is a serious battery drain, do you work so much on your device?
Eg I use my device constantly, 15 sms/day, 1 a 2hours phone, 30min surfing wifi and or hspda and I can do over a day and a half with one battery charge
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Yeah, I use it constantly for the web and MSN (wifi/hsdpa/3g) as well as calls/sms. I could probably tweak it to last longer by disabling wifi/bluetooth etc when not connected but haven't found a good app to automate this yet.
Of course, once I find a 'cheap' car-cradle with built-in micro-usb (ie. put the phone in the cradle and it automatically starts charging - rather than fiddle around with cables and whatnot) the batterylife won't be a problem no more.

karkid said:
My phone history is no small list i've tried pretty much everything out there From N97, to Blackberry 9700... HD2 cought my eye because i originally had the HD, however it seems that i'm getting the itch to move on to possibly the N900 or E72
Anyways just wondering what your experiences have been like with your device, and what are your most cool applications?
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No where near board with it but as you've most likely tried everything there is for the HD2 why don't you list your best top 10 apps that you've tried and then we'll compare notes

For me the HD2 is my very first PocketPC/Smartphone. For me this phone is very powerful that it'll do fine for the coming years, if the phone can last that long. My only reason for switching to another phone is when the specs are at least equal to the one of the HD2, MUCH improved battery life and support of both capacative and resistive touch with adequate software and UI support. You can't get better than that. I'm not a gamer, so more power and a higher frequency is not necessarily my wish.

browser feels like beta version

Notwithstanding the issues that have carried over from my g1 and mytouch, this browser really needs an update. I love this phone and I really believe its as good if not better than any phone out there but...
When I go to a site its a straight toss up as to whether it will smoothly load the page or achieve about a quarter inch of yellow progress bar and just hang there( 3g or otherwise). Sometimes I get 0 progress and wind up rebooting the phone. I thought the processor is what's responsible for loading pages once the network downloads them. I'm half excited though because the phone is otherwise great and thru software updates we will eventually see this capable processor and abundance of ram put to proper use. I feel like this phone could literally run at least 50% smoother based only on better hardware use regardless of android software modifications. This phone has such incredible hardware if google took it back and spent another 6 months on it and left the hardware the same they could make it run unrecognizably well.
I predict great things from google!

Check out the Dolphin Browser in the marketplace. It has multi-touch/pinch zoom and works really well.

DMaverick50 said:
Notwithstanding the issues that have carried over from my g1 and mytouch, this browser really needs an update. I love this phone and I really believe its as good if not better than any phone out there but...
When I go to a site its a straight toss up as to whether it will smoothly load the page or achieve about a quarter inch of yellow progress bar and just hang there( 3g or otherwise). Sometimes I get 0 progress and wind up rebooting the phone. I thought the processor is what's responsible for loading pages once the network downloads them. I'm half excited though because the phone is otherwise great and thru software updates we will eventually see this capable processor and abundance of ram put to proper use. I feel like this phone could literally run at least 50% smoother based only on better hardware use regardless of android software modifications. This phone has such incredible hardware if google took it back and spent another 6 months on it and left the hardware the same they could make it run unrecognizably well.
I predict great things from google!
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I have yet to experience such a problem... unless my phone switches from 3G to Edge... but that's not a problem with the browser...

None of those issues with the browser. Only, some website pages like XDA display real small text? So, I have to zoom in a lot...

Reasons why I should buy the HD2 instead of the Nexus One

Guys, I'm absolutely TORN between these two, and am leaning toward the HD2 a lot (because of how comfortable customizing Windows Mobile is) but can someone tell me why the HD2 is a better buy than the Nexus One? I'm just looking for some reassurance as to how the HD2 is better (apart from the screen size).

i have the hd2 and is a powerfull device the only thing is it have WM if i were you ill buy the nexus or you have a better option the evo 4g

Your decision
Andriod is great, for some people, wm is great for some, I love hd2, but personal choice,. Thats why so many different phones to choose from, lots of different personal choices,,,Quig

brekem said:
i have the hd2 and is a powerfull device the only thing is it have WM if i were you ill buy the nexus or you have a better option the evo 4g
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The EVO 4G is a CDMA device and I use a GSM network. How is the Nexus One better than the HD2?

lquigley said:
Andriod is great, for some people, wm is great for some, I love hd2, but personal choice,. Thats why so many different phones to choose from, lots of different personal choices,,,Quig
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Doesn't the HD2 have a lot of problems? I read this post of a guy with an HD2 and he said he has a new problem with it every day lol is that true?

well i cant tell you if it but i comming from a g1 i prefferd android over WM

Why not check the HTC Droid Incredible if android is a option
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQOsgZFBUGY
i , myself use a HD2 and i love it.

hackm0d said:
Doesn't the HD2 have a lot of problems? I read this post of a guy with an HD2 and he said he has a new problem with it every day lol is that true?
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I saw that too. TBH i think that was a very large case of user incompetence. I've had my HD2 about 6 weeks now and i've not had any problems with it that weren't my fault to begin with except for the sms sound notification issue and the slow HTC messaging application issue but these are problems almost everyone is having and the second one isn't so bad if you don't have text mainiacs for friends or want to flash a custom rom that use's the outlook style WM default.
I love my windows mobile device for the simple things. Things like direct push of my email from my exchange server and the familiar UI. As a linux fan i was very excited when android was first annouced but after using a G1 in the local tmobile store i changed my mind a little. I haven't used android since so i have no idea if it's grown up any.

Nexus One uses a crappy pentile AMOLED screen.
Until today, I have not had a single lock-up, freeze, etc and what have you with my HD2. I think it all boils down to how versed you are with Windows Mobile. I however, did (without much thinking), double clicked on the SimLock.exe program to see what would happen. Naturally, this pained me for 60 seconds since I couldn't minimize the program. I had to hit the home key (brings it up for .5 second before the sim lock program comes up again) and quickly swipe my way to the soft reset button (had to do this 8 times while starting up every other program because it was a fleeting image. It was funny.

M3PH said:
I saw that too. TBH i think that was a very large case of user incompetence. I've had my HD2 about 6 weeks now and i've not had any problems with it that weren't my fault to begin with except for the sms sound notification issue and the slow HTC messaging application issue but these are problems almost everyone is having and the second one isn't so bad if you don't have text mainiacs for friends or want to flash a custom rom that use's the outlook style WM default.
I love my windows mobile device for the simple things. Things like direct push of my email from my exchange server and the familiar UI. As a linux fan i was very excited when android was first annouced but after using a G1 in the local tmobile store i changed my mind a little. I haven't used android since so i have no idea if it's grown up any.
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What about the SMS sound and HTC messaging issue?
PoisonWolf said:
Nexus One uses a crappy pentile AMOLED screen.
Until today, I have not had a single lock-up, freeze, etc and what have you with my HD2. I think it all boils down to how versed you are with Windows Mobile. I however, did (without much thinking), double clicked on the SimLock.exe program to see what would happen. Naturally, this pained me for 60 seconds since I couldn't minimize the program. I had to hit the home key (brings it up for .5 second before the sim lock program comes up again) and quickly swipe my way to the soft reset button (had to do this 8 times while starting up every other program because it was a fleeting image. It was funny.
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Yeah it's things like that that make me think a WM device has a sort of soul, it always needs your attention, like Windows does. I used to have an iPAQ h4150 that ran WM2003 and I loved the apps and the gaming and file management capabilites. I also loved how everything was so familiar and easy to use. It's just that with the flick and swipe culture being so rampant everywhere and combining this with Android's open nature, just makes me think that WM 6.5 won't be as worthwhile. and lol why didn't you just pop the battery door off and reset?

hackm0d said:
What about the SMS sound and HTC messaging issue?
Yeah it's things like that that make me think a WM device has a sort of soul, it always needs your attention, like Windows does. I used to have an iPAQ h4150 that ran WM2003 and I loved the apps and the gaming and file management capabilites. I also loved how everything was so familiar and easy to use. It's just that with the flick and swipe culture being so rampant everywhere and combining this with Android's open nature, just makes me think that WM 6.5 won't be as worthwhile. and lol why didn't you just pop the battery door off and reset?
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Firstly, that was not challenging. Easy way out.
Anyhow, hope you make a decision. WM 6.5 will be around for at least a year more after WP7 releases (so roughly 2 years or close to it if you get it now). By then, when you've used the HD2 as the last great Windows Mobile device, you can switch to the Hd4 which probably has 800mhz quadcore chips or something with 5000mAH batteries the size of a nickel or something. Who the heck knows what will happen in 2 years. A lot of emerging battery tech is arriving, and I hope it reaches the mobile scene soon since battery life as it is is sagging behind by a decade or more now.

hackm0d said:
What about the SMS sound and HTC messaging issue?
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On occasion and at random the phone will not play the sms notification sound if the device is in standby but as soon as you hit any button to bring the device out of standby mode it pings you. The way i get around it is to enable a registry tweak which makes the green led at the top of the device blink when a message comes in.
The messaging app itself is just plain slow. If you have a contact with more than a few messages associated with them it can take up to 30 seconds to load them all. There is also a small delay when you hit the text input to start typing new sms messages. It is very much down to poor coding imho and although there are a couple of cabs out there to are supposed to fix this they appear to be a bit hit and miss. It doesn't really bug me that much, i think it as sort of a quirk and if you text while watching TV or doing other things then you don't really notice it.

M3PH said:
On occasion and at random the phone will not play the sms notification sound if the device is in standby but as soon as you hit any button to bring the device out of standby mode it pings you. The way i get around it is to enable a registry tweak which makes the green led at the top of the device blink when a message comes in.
The messaging app itself is just plain slow. If you have a contact with more than a few messages associated with them it can take up to 30 seconds to load them all. There is also a small delay when you hit the text input to start typing new sms messages. It is very much down to poor coding imho and although there are a couple of cabs out there to are supposed to fix this they appear to be a bit hit and miss. It doesn't really bug me that much, i think it as sort of a quirk and if you text while watching TV or doing other things then you don't really notice it.
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Darn I usually leave my phone somewhere on my bed or couch and I wouldn't see a blinking LED, usually I depend on the sound.
And 30 seconds? That's a lot of time, even my current Symbian smartphone doesn't take that long.
Do you think that, at this point, with WP7 and Android Gingerbread coming out in the end of the year, it would be better for me to skip out on a smartphone?

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Darn I usually leave my phone somewhere on my bed or couch and I wouldn't see a blinking LED, usually I depend on the sound.
And 30 seconds? That's a lot of time, even my current Symbian smartphone doesn't take that long.
Do you think that, at this point, with WP7 and Android Gingerbread coming out in the end of the year, it would be better for me to skip out on a smartphone?
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Like I said, if you wait, you'll have a dual-core snapdragon next year. Of course, even after WP7 comes out, it'll take about 2 ~ 3 years before it even reaches the maturity of what Windows Mobile is today.

So I'm supposed to wait huh?
Darn, I guess I'll never see HTC/Microsoft's last hurrah with Windows Mobile 6.5. I think it's okay though, I might as well get a decent notebook that'll last me a couple of years so that I don't ask as much from a smartphone as I was asking from Windows Mobile and the HD2.

I dare say there will be a call for downgrading devices from wp7 to wm6.5, a lot of people will be unhappy with the reduced functionality and lack of customisability.

hackm0d said:
So I'm supposed to wait huh?
Darn, I guess I'll never see HTC/Microsoft's last hurrah with Windows Mobile 6.5. I think it's okay though, I might as well get a decent notebook that'll last me a couple of years so that I don't ask as much from a smartphone as I was asking from Windows Mobile and the HD2.
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I would never have got my Leo if it wasn't for O2-UK's inability to understand terms like redundancy and co-location and finally, an enthusiastic builder with a shovel but it is seriously the best phone (well it's not really a phone more a personal communications device) i have ever had. Yeah it's got it's problems but they are all HTC's fault for not sticking with the stock interface throughout and instead thinking they can do better.
If i was you (and 6 weeks ago i sorta was) i would go for the HD2 and i would make the same choice everytime of offering.

A friend of mine got the EVO on release day, and I've spent some time messing with it. Suprisingly, with Sense running on both, the core experience between the two is very similar. At the end of the day, I'd go for the EVO over the HD2 for the availability of apps, and what feels like a better touchscreen, but I don't feel the HD2 is as inferior to the EVO as I thought I would.
Between the HD2 and the Nexus one, I'd go for the HD2 because of the bigger screen, and generally better hardware. I'm an old iPhone user, so the hype of apps wore off for me a long time ago....if Apps are important to you, then definitely get the Nexus One, otherwise my vote goes for the HD2.
The last few iterations of the Energy Rom have been rock solid stable for me...rarely crashes, if ever. No messaging bug or crashes for me.

hd2 all the way. nexus one has been reviewed up against the hd2 and has proven to have better hardware run smoother. i have found if your an app person Windows mobile is still as possible to compete availability is concerned. i use omarket which is an app market for freewarepocketpc.net and also i visit umnet.com and i am just happy when it comes to apps.

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I would never have got my Leo if it wasn't for O2-UK's inability to understand terms like redundancy and co-location and finally, an enthusiastic builder with a shovel but it is seriously the best phone (well it's not really a phone more a personal communications device) i have ever had. Yeah it's got it's problems but they are all HTC's fault for not sticking with the stock interface throughout and instead thinking they can do better.
If i was you (and 6 weeks ago i sorta was) i would go for the HD2 and i would make the same choice everytime of offering.
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I'm pretty much looking for laptop-esque functionality, i.e. downloading torrents, word document composing and everything in a pocket-friendly package. Do you think it offers that? And what ROM are you running?
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A friend of mine got the EVO on release day, and I've spent some time messing with it. Suprisingly, with Sense running on both, the core experience between the two is very similar. At the end of the day, I'd go for the EVO over the HD2 for the availability of apps, and what feels like a better touchscreen, but I don't feel the HD2 is as inferior to the EVO as I thought I would.
Between the HD2 and the Nexus one, I'd go for the HD2 because of the bigger screen, and generally better hardware. I'm an old iPhone user, so the hype of apps wore off for me a long time ago....if Apps are important to you, then definitely get the Nexus One, otherwise my vote goes for the HD2.
The last few iterations of the Energy Rom have been rock solid stable for me...rarely crashes, if ever. No messaging bug or crashes for me.
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You sure? The person above said almost everyone has the messaging bug.
Any major issues worth mentioning?

Problems with scrolling on HD.

Anyone been have problems with the scrolling? It seems to jump and stutter alot, say when scrolling through the apps in market place. Also while scrolling, if you keep your finger on the screen the screen starts to shake, when it shouldn't be moving at all!!??
Anyone having these problems??
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its not a 'problem' most cpacitive screens exhibit this my htc legend did the same and so does a friends X10, and motorola backflip. im not sure why it happens i think it might have somethign to do with the software calculating the exact center point of your finger.
or maybe your finger is shaking ? even if you cant see it chances are there is a slight movement in your finger

I defo ain't got shakey hands. Its really annoying, I've got an x10 also, and i don't have this problem I'm having with my HD!.
Scrolling through the market is the worse, as it stutters and jumps while browsing.
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That's pure bad coding...
Has nothing to do with the screen itsself. I'm still wondering why Android has not been able to make a phone that does not lag anywhere, like Apple already did many many years ago in a device with maybe 1/4 of the DHD's power... Don't get me wrong, I like my DHD an I would never trade it back for a 3GS but come on, isn't it time for lag to leave Android?
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matthiasdeblaiser said:
That's pure bad coding...
Has nothing to do with the screen itsself. I'm still wondering why Android has not been able to make a phone that does not lag anywhere, like Apple already did many many years ago in a device with maybe 1/4 of the DHD's power... Don't get me wrong, I like my DHD an I would never trade it back for a 3GS but come on, isn't it time for lag to leave Android?
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well the answer is simple, apple only has 1 hardware variant to account for android has to account for many different hardware combos which means more problems and will most likely never be perfect.
a good example is windows it has to support everything and to this day certain hardware combos can cause major issues. apple and any other fixed hardware/software vendors have a much easier time because everything is the same for every device sold. id also be willing to bet the iphone 4 is still using the same radio hardware from the 3g

[Q] Help! I wanna join the Party too! (Browsing Problem)

Hi everyone!
I am glad you guy love the nexus 10 browsing experience.
But I am hoping if you guy could help me out
cause I am not in the same boat as you guys who are enjoying the fast browsing experience.
I just received my Nexus 10.
My browsing experience to horrible.
I did not do any test but from the real world experience it is so slow comparing to my PC, ipad 3, ipad 4, iphone 5.
but It is faster my Transformer Prime and a little faster than my galaxy nexus. (note not trying to brag what I got, (the tablet is not all mine
and I just have a big family )
But I realize some weird things happen while browsing. It is the slowest when starting to enter to a site.
For example, when I typed Engadget.com, it takes forever to load but while in engadget and clicking their stories it is super fast.
Same to Mangahere.com.. but once clicking the link in their site, the browser is really fast. it is in between the ipad 3 and ipad 4 speed
I tried boat browser, dolphin, firefox and Chrome. The weirdest thing is the infamous slow Chrome, everybody was writing about,
is faster than all the browser I tried.
Now I am really thinking I am doing something really wrong. Hoping you guys could guide me to the party.
Thanks

You could try the stock 4.2 browser... IMHO, it's generally faster than all other browsers (except maybe for HTML5 stuff where Chrome is the best)...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2006215

Well Im using Boat now after Chrome and its flying

I could not find the 4.2 stock browser
is it also called the AOSP JB 4.2?
I tried the boat and it is slower than chrome in my case
did you change the setting to make it go faster?
how many second does it take you to get into engadget and mangahere with java on.
it tooked me about 10-20 sercond to get into those site.
and going to xdadevelopers site took me 30-40 sec >_<
I LOVE the nexus 10 but the browsing is driving me nut!

Check the link in my post above....

Dolphin is working great. Try the jetpack add-on for HTML 5

guys
I got it all figure out.
Thank you so much for you help
The Nexus 10 was never a problem
the problem was the ROUTER! After replacing the router, Nexus 10 started to fly!
it was kinda strange that all the other wireless tablet and phone was fine
but the Nexus
now I have no compliant and going to go around and convince people to get a nexus 10 as while
Thank you again

bananastylez said:
guys
I got it all figure out.
Thank you so much for you help
The Nexus 10 was never a problem
the problem was the ROUTER! After replacing the router, Nexus 10 started to fly!
it was kinda strange that all the other wireless tablet and phone was fine
but the Nexus
now I have no compliant and going to go around and convince people to get a nexus 10 as while
Thank you again
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Enable GPU rendering as well in developer options
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