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So I am at work, looking at my N1, and I'll let you all tell me if you think there is a problem...Since a full charge last night, my phone has been off the dock for 2h9m ...
In that time, my battery has dropped 14% already. The biggest culprit...the display...with 59%...despite only being on for 15m. I always use it on the middle brightness setting from the power bar. Ive lost basically 1% for every minute the screen has been on. At that rate, my phone wouldn't even last 2 hours turned on.
Am I being paranoid? Do I have some rogue program sucking battery life? Your thoughts?
Everybody says controversial stuff about phones like N1 or iPhone regarding battery life. But I can tell you from experience and some conferences I have been the following tips to improve your N1 battery:
-Leave brightness to minimum. Only at street you will need to have it at medium or maximum so you can see well.
-Use 3G or wifi when available. It will save more battery than if you use edge.
-Use push, also it's better.
-User apps like TaskManager to auto kill some application that remain open.
And last thing, if you have a new N1 the battery life will improve with the use within the next 2 weeks. Also, I'm sure you are playing around more than usual if you just got it.
I hope this help you.
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Battery History
See what the figure for 'running' is, if it's high, something is stopping the phone sleeping. Should that be the case, chage the top drop down box to 'partial wake usage' and see what is to blame.
blastik said:
Everybody says controversial stuff about phones like N1 or iPhone regarding battery life. But I can tell you from experience and some conferences I have been the following tips to improve your N1 battery:
-Leave brightness to minimum. Only at street you will need to have it at medium or maximum so you can see well.
-Use 3G or wifi when available. It will save more battery than if you use edge.
-Use push, also it's better.
-User apps like TaskManager to auto kill some application that remain open.
And last thing, if you have a new N1 the battery life will improve with the use within the next 2 weeks. Also, I'm sure you are playing around more than usual if you just got it.
I hope this help you.
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This is the complete opposite of what everyone else will tell you.
Most people say to force 2G (Edge) because it'll save battery over 3G. There are reports that WiFi will use less battery than 3G though, but not as good as 2G. Google even says this on the screen where you force 2G.
Push Email will require a constant polling on the internet. Since Android is a web OS, its probably connected to the internet anyway, but you can disable Auto Sync and Background Sync to save battery (once again, Google says this on that screen).
I agree with #1 and #4 though. If you don't want to do the lowest brightness setting, try the Auto Dim, it seems to dim it a lot more than my old Windows Mobile phones did.
mindfrost82 said:
This is the complete opposite of what everyone else will tell you.
Most people say to force 2G (Edge) because it'll save battery over 3G. There are reports that WiFi will use less battery than 3G though, but not as good as 2G. Google even says this on the screen where you force 2G.
Push Email will require a constant polling on the internet. Since Android is a web OS, its probably connected to the internet anyway, but you can disable Auto Sync and Background Sync to save battery (once again, Google says this on that screen).
I agree with #1 and #4 though. If you don't want to do the lowest brightness setting, try the Auto Dim, it seems to dim it a lot more than my old Windows Mobile phones did.
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At first I had the same opinion as you have but after I watched this video it changed radically
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUemfrKe65c&feature=player_embedded
mindfrost82 said:
Push Email will require a constant polling on the internet.
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No it doesn't, that's the beauty of push email. It opens a connection to the server and just sits idle.
Rusty! said:
No it doesn't, that's the beauty of push email. It opens a connection to the server and just sits idle.
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You are right so ... it saves battery at the end.
@mindfrost82. Check out the video, it will tech you few things because most of people is wrong as I was in the past.
Battery Drain
My phone would drain 15% battery in 1 hour just being idle witht he screen off. I dialed *#*#4636#*#* and changed the option from WCDMA preffered to WCDMA only. When I don't get a 3g signal (not often) I jsut go back to that and set it to GSM only. For one reason or another the WCDMA preffered SUCKS THE BATTERY!
4 hours of the phone being idle and only 5% battery drain! DO IT! IT WORKS!
blastik said:
At first I had the same opinion as you have but after I watched this video it changed radically
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUemfrKe65c&feature=player_embedded
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WTF? 3g uses LESS POWER than edge/wifi?!
My whole world just got turned upside down
Thanks for posting the video
ap3604 said:
WTF? 3g uses LESS POWER than edge/wifi?!
My whole world just got turned upside down
Thanks for posting the video
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You need to be careful of this. The point the video made is that if you download something OF SIMILAR SIZE, you will realize battery gains by virtue of the fact that what you are downloading/uploading takes exponentially less time to retrieve. The real question is, if 2 phones are both casually browsing for the same amount of time...without worrying how much information was actually transferred...one on Edge, the other on 3G...is there a difference in battery performance?
What the video said is just common sense. If I am going to send you 20 MB file and one way takes 2 minutes to download it and the other takes 10 minutes to download, then OF COURSE the 2 minute method is going to be more efficient. So you can download on Wifi where it might take x amount of time, compared to 3G where it takes 5x or edge where it takes 10x. Thus, if the file size the person is going to download is known, then of course it makes sense to tell them to wait until they are on wifi. However, many of us casually browse, on the spot, without regard to the type of connection we are on.
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You need to be careful of this. The point the video made is that if you download something OF SIMILAR SIZE, you will realize battery gains by virtue of the fact that what you are downloading/uploading takes exponentially less time to retrieve. The real question is, if 2 phones are both casually browsing for the same amount of time...without worrying how much information was actually transferred...one on Edge, the other on 3G...is there a difference in battery performance?
What the video said is just common sense. If I am going to send you 20 MB file and one way takes 2 minutes to download it and the other takes 10 minutes to download, then OF COURSE the 2 minute method is going to be more efficient. So you can download on Wifi where it might take x amount of time, compared to 3G where it takes 5x or edge where it takes 10x. Thus, if the file size the person is going to download is known, then of course it makes sense to tell them to wait until they are on wifi. However, many of us casually browse, on the spot, without regard to the type of connection we are on.
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Yeah, what you just said is right. But still you are saving battery up! Plus I wouldn't use edge at all in my N1. What's the point of having almost everything disabled so I can receive calls?
I remind you that while edge is sending/receiving data you cannot get any calls
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At first I had the same opinion as you have but after I watched this video it changed radically
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUemfrKe65c&feature=player_embedded
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This is an excellent video, I highly recommend watching it if you are even remotely interested in the inner workings of our phones.
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I remind you that while edge is sending/receiving data you cannot get any calls
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Thanks, I didn't know this, for the info this thread is full of great stuff...
1) middle brightness is very bright. I'm sure you can live with 25%. Display brightness will always drain battery like mad.
2) 3G power use is usually decent. The N1 has terrible RF so it might be fighting 2G/3G. That will cost you a lot of power. If you're getting full 4 bars 3G everywhere you go even underground, you might be ok, but in low reception areas, it's gonna drain your battery struggling to boost power. Bigger issue during a call too.I notice this on my Milestone. The N1 completely fails at 3G while my Milestone fights for it. As a result the Milestone gets quite hot.
3) There are sometimes apps that run in the background. Some people insist task killers aren't necessary, but lemme give you an example. Stupid Speedtest program failed to acquire my location. After a test, you can't really exit, so you just hit home. Droidforums fanatics will always repost that link to that one thread where they talk about memory and its ok to not have to kill an app. Think again. The GPS turns on because of Speedtest and it keeps trying to acquire your location. Gotta kill it with a task manager or that thing will kill you. Or a webpage. I've heard of people going to some site that keeps refreshing. Oh good luck to your battery. Make sure you close these things. Use a task manager. Sometimes Facebook or Twitter might be the culprit even if your refresh rates are awfully long. I do not understand this phone sometimes. At times I feel that multitasking/memory management on Android gets you into more trouble than if you just flat out restricted it like in the iPhone. I'm not saying the iPhone's restrictions are the way to go, but Apple knew what it was doing. There's a reason Android phones gobble power and pull data like mad even when you aren't aware. Random apps sometimes start. Facebook widget refreshes even though the app itself is set not to auto notify and to update on its own. So with so many things running loose, its quite easy to see why your battery can go down so fast.
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You need to be careful of this. The point the video made is that if you download something OF SIMILAR SIZE, you will realize battery gains by virtue of the fact that what you are downloading/uploading takes exponentially less time to retrieve. The real question is, if 2 phones are both casually browsing for the same amount of time...without worrying how much information was actually transferred...one on Edge, the other on 3G...is there a difference in battery performance?
What the video said is just common sense. If I am going to send you 20 MB file and one way takes 2 minutes to download it and the other takes 10 minutes to download, then OF COURSE the 2 minute method is going to be more efficient. So you can download on Wifi where it might take x amount of time, compared to 3G where it takes 5x or edge where it takes 10x. Thus, if the file size the person is going to download is known, then of course it makes sense to tell them to wait until they are on wifi. However, many of us casually browse, on the spot, without regard to the type of connection we are on.
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That's exactly the idea I got from that video too, which makes sense.
dmo580 said:
1) middle brightness is very bright. I'm sure you can live with 25%. Display brightness will always drain battery like mad.
2) 3G power use is usually decent. The N1 has terrible RF so it might be fighting 2G/3G. That will cost you a lot of power. If you're getting full 4 bars 3G everywhere you go even underground, you might be ok, but in low reception areas, it's gonna drain your battery struggling to boost power. Bigger issue during a call too.I notice this on my Milestone. The N1 completely fails at 3G while my Milestone fights for it. As a result the Milestone gets quite hot.
3) There are sometimes apps that run in the background. Some people insist task killers aren't necessary, but lemme give you an example. Stupid Speedtest program failed to acquire my location. After a test, you can't really exit, so you just hit home. Droidforums fanatics will always repost that link to that one thread where they talk about memory and its ok to not have to kill an app. Think again. The GPS turns on because of Speedtest and it keeps trying to acquire your location. Gotta kill it with a task manager or that thing will kill you. Or a webpage. I've heard of people going to some site that keeps refreshing. Oh good luck to your battery. Make sure you close these things. Use a task manager. Sometimes Facebook or Twitter might be the culprit even if your refresh rates are awfully long. I do not understand this phone sometimes. At times I feel that multitasking/memory management on Android gets you into more trouble than if you just flat out restricted it like in the iPhone. I'm not saying the iPhone's restrictions are the way to go, but Apple knew what it was doing. There's a reason Android phones gobble power and pull data like mad even when you aren't aware. Random apps sometimes start. Facebook widget refreshes even though the app itself is set not to auto notify and to update on its own. So with so many things running loose, its quite easy to see why your battery can go down so fast.
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I'll second this, I never used to use a task killer as I figured it was just extra drain on the battery but after running across some rogue programs that kept running after being closed and draining the heck out of my battery I decided to install taskkiller and set it up to autokill apps when the screen goes off.
It's really easy to setup just install it from the market then use it to kill everything then flip through your homescreens make sure everything is up and running and go back into task killer and add everything there to the ignore list and turn on "autokill when screen off" now you don't ever have to worry about rogue apps killing your battery again and everything else will function normally.
blastik said:
Yeah, what you just said is right. But still you are saving battery up! Plus I wouldn't use edge at all in my N1. What's the point of having almost everything disabled so I can receive calls?
I remind you that while edge is sending/receiving data you cannot get any calls
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yes you can, the phone will stop whatever data it's processing and take the call.
seanhassars said:
yes you can, the phone will stop whatever data it's processing and take the call.
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I'm sure 100% that while phone is receiving data over edge you wont get calls. I know because I had push enabled and afterwards I was getting SMS from my carrier that I have missed calls. It might say "ey sb is trying to call you" and then stop data transfer but for sure your will miss first call if someone is trying to reach you several times.
Check it out yourself.
blastik said:
Everybody says controversial stuff about phones like N1 or iPhone regarding battery life. But I can tell you from experience and some conferences I have been the following tips to improve your N1 battery:
-Leave brightness to minimum. Only at street you will need to have it at medium or maximum so you can see well.
-Use 3G or wifi when available. It will save more battery than if you use edge.
-Use push, also it's better.
-User apps like TaskManager to auto kill some application that remain open.
And last thing, if you have a new N1 the battery life will improve with the use within the next 2 weeks. Also, I'm sure you are playing around more than usual if you just got it.
I hope this help you.
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there are a lot of people who say do not use a task killer, including google devs etc.
i used advanced task killer for the longest time, being used to needing one as a WM user before getting my n1. after reading various posts on the issue, i tested without and my battery life increased.
i use juice defender now as well to turn off the apn and wifi, based on speeds/location/etc
have it set to prefer 2g (dont get 3g at home)
screebl also setup to turn screen off when not in certain position in hand
last one is setcpu (need root for this though) underclocking the cpu (including advanced setting and profiles i have set)
lowest setting for brightness
also keep gps off unless needed
i hit about 24hr from unplug til 10% w/ heavy useage, wifi on all the time (although juicedefender handles when its on/off)
just now went to kmobs UV kernel and testing that to increase my times
i've done a 24hr test from 100%>10% based on each app i've mentioned
I think while we are on topic of battery life.. for those of you who are rooted. Here is another link that I would recommend. I used these on my HTC Dream and works great on the Nexus One. Increase your battery life 10 fold.
Your Tube: "Get Better Battery Life" by droiddog
sorry not allowed to link yet
Hey guys I'm having some concerns about my xperia play and so i want to know if i should be worried...
My screen flickers. ( Not on/off) but between shades. It's hard to explain but it drops between levels of brightness, but here's the deal i turn auto brightness off and it still flickers. Now i have noticed that the screen will dim ( flicker shades) with the orientation of the phone. Idk.
Also when I'm downloading the games thru xperia app it takes forever, i have high speed internet and I'm connected via WiFi but should i be expecting A 150MB download to take up to 45 minutes. Seems kinda slow to me.
Thanks in advance guys.
By Tue screen flickering if u mean the auto brightness increasing and decreasing immensely at times its normal since u cant turn off the auto brightness in our phone....
About the games..most of the games took 15-20 mins or less for me on an 8 mpbs connection
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Is there some kind of other brightness settings, i turned auto brightness off. And I'm still getting fluctuations in the shade of color.
if you have root you can disable this, but it is only temporary as somewhere in the system it re-enables this.
create a gscript with su ability
start script below
echo "0" > /sys/devices/i2c-0/0-0040/leds/lcd-backlight/als/enable
end script above
do not include the start and end parts
lasts around an hour, stops the flicker in bad light situations
magicriggs said:
Is there some kind of other brightness settings, i turned auto brightness off. And I'm still getting fluctuations in the shade of color.
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It wont turn off even if you untick it, its an anoying bug, hopefully custom roms/kernels will solve this, dont worry about the downloads, even with high speed internet, keep in mind most of the developers are small companies and cant afford expensive hosting, even the gameloft servers are slow imo
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magicriggs said:
Is there some kind of other brightness settings, i turned auto brightness off. And I'm still getting fluctuations in the shade of color.
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You can NOT turn auto brightness off on the Play, it is hard wired right into the os, even if you used an app or widget saying it if off it is NOT! there is nothing you can do until SE fix it or some members here mod the os,
All the Play's do exactly what your describing, lots of topic here and elsewhere about it, everybody moans about it!
And regarding downloads, things from the market download fast for me, very fast, but other stuff from other places can be very slow, gameloft for example, takes hours! just depends on the servers your downloading from.
Hey thanks guys for the information. When i get to a desktop I'll hit the thanks button for all of you. I think my WiFi was acting up last night, i was playing some zombies and downloading torrents at the same time.lol. anyways thanks guys again.
FK1983 said:
You can NOT turn auto brightness off on the Play, it is hard wired right into the os, even if you used an app or widget saying it if off it is NOT! there is nothing you can do until SE fix it or some members here mod the os,
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Actually you can disable it, its just not permanent please see my previous post
To be honest with you I like the auto brightness. I think is super responsive which other phones it seems like it takes forever to kick in which is why I normally shut it off
Varucell said:
To be honest with you I like the auto brightness. I think is super responsive which other phones it seems like it takes forever to kick in which is why I normally shut it off
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I think it works great too, but it is nice to have this little gscript ready for times when the autobrightness goes wacky and the screen flickers
helllo
Even if I am using manual brightness set to max - when browsing for example XDA forums which has alot of white - I notice if i drop down the statusbar to check notifications - then go back into xda the screen dims down a notch. (Going from alot of black to alot of white)
This is with all auto-options set to disabled and at max brightness.
This also occured in omega rom, also MF8 base.
And sometimes after a while, it can go back to max brightness randomly. I feel its some sort of adaptive brightness thingy that is misbehaving - even though everything is set to manual.
I tried MGA but its the same thing - . -
and it happens randomly. then after a little while the brightness can go up to max again.......
There's an option in the display settings which is badly named but which turns off this behavior. I think it's named adaptative display or auto tone or something like that. It's the 2nd from the bottom.
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fstorm said:
There's an option in the display settings which is badly named but which turns off this behavior. I think it's named adaptative display or auto tone or something like that. It's the 2nd from the bottom.
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I already have everything like this turned off
Same problem here. Couldn't find any 3rd party app to address this. Tried almost all brightness related titles in the play store. Hope someone will come out with some dolution for this. It's sooooo annoying!
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Same probleme here....
That made now 2 weeks that I search a solution. All the options of auto-luminosity are disabled, luminosity set to the maximum manually, auto-tons disabled and eco mode off but despite everything, in a dark part, my screen dimmed. It is very disturbing because it dimmed then return in full luminosity etc.... It is a problem but beyond that, I noted that at the time when the automatic adjustment of luminosity occurs, the processor also loses in frequency. It still reaches a maximum at 1.458 ghz or worse at 1.2 ghz.. I tested several Roms: Stock rooted, Google edition 4.3, V8.0 Omega, the result is the same one. I tested several Kernels: Faux123, KT-SGS4 and Adam Kernel. I tried to block the processor at 1.89 GHZ (min + max) at a session of games but at the end of a few seconds, automatic reduction of the luminosity and decreased processor. I think it is not a hardware problem because much of users of Galaxy S4 have this worries.
I become insane with that! And my wife also
Is it possible that a developer integrates a corrective in next a Rom or perhaps make a tweak?
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I think i know what's causing the issue.
When I got my phone I noticed the same thing. Apparently its a function of the software deep in the system(at least that's how I understand it). There is no easy way to turn it off. Basically it throttles the screen brightness depending on the average amount of white displayed. The more white the more the brightness is throttled. Not sure if it's to prevent the screen from overheating or to save battery or for both. It's kind of like how the screen can ramp up to a higher brightness when in auto than when in manual. I think it's a thermal issue, but not sure.
2ndammendment said:
I think i know what's causing the issue.
When I got my phone I noticed the same thing. Apparently its a function of the software deep in the system(at least that's how I understand it). There is no easy way to turn it off. Basically it throttles the screen brightness depending on the average amount of white displayed. The more white the more the brightness is throttled. Not sure if it's to prevent the screen from overheating or to save battery or for both. It's kind of like how the screen can ramp up to a higher brightness when in auto than when in manual. I think it's a thermal issue, but not sure.
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i also think its thermal/power saving related.
a kernel tweak should fix it.
aliendna99 said:
i also think its thermal/power saving related.
a kernel tweak should fix it.
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I don't know of any kernels which address this "issue". Even if you could fix it with a kernel, I'm not sure you would want to
I have seen all across the web posts about the disappointment in the battery life of the Nexus 6. I have to say why not, because with a 3300 MAH battery we expect more than 2 hours of on screen time. Which seems to be the normal accomplishment across the device. I have actually been able to achieve 4-5 hours of SOT on a regular basis! I haven't seen many guides on how to do so. I have only seen people bragging about it. So, I decided to post this information for those of you looking for some guidance. Hoping maybe for a sticky
1. First, you're going to want to be rooted.
If you do not know how to root or are not sure how to go about it you can use the Wug's Nexus Root Toolkit which is located here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/development/toolkit-wugs-nexus-root-toolkit-v1-9-8-t2947452
2. You're going to want to download Greenify. If you don't have it, it can be found here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oasisfeng.greenify&hl=en it is free. The pay version does have more to offer though.
Hibernate every service that typically runs in the background when not used (Example: Facebook, Facebook Messenger, Snapchat, Ebay, basically any notification based app). In addition, leave a widget on your home screen for hibernating the apps and going to the lockscreen. When you're done with your phone you can hit this. This will save battery when you're not using the phone.
3. Have Titanium backup installed (pro version) which consists of the free version + pro key. You can find them in the Google play store.. Free version: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup&hl=en Pay key: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.keramidas.TitaniumBackupPro&hl=en.
Freeze any applications which you do not use. (Ex: Cloud Print, DMService, Docs, Google Earth, Google Fit, Google books, music, Maps, etc...)
4. Have Disable Service installed. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cn.wq.disableservice&hl=en
This one is a KEY in getting better battery life. I was not able to get GREAT on screen time until disabling services with the Disable Service app. I have attached pictures of which services you want to disable in regards to "Google play services" which tend to be a HUGE battery drain on the device. Disabling these I notice no issue with the device everything works properly.
5. Keep WI-FI on whenever possible
6. Use battery saver mode whenever possible.
7. Get rid of Google launcher (freeze it in titanium backup) and use an alternate launcher such as Nova, Apex, etc... For some reason the Google launcher seems to be a huge battery drain.
8. Don't use unnecessary services like the Google hot word detection. I have to admit this one is hard because I love just saying "Ok Google" and then telling it what I want to search. But is it really that hard to just hit the microphone on the Google search?
9. If you are a Facebook user: Set the application to NEVER check for an update unless you open the application. Same with Facebook Messenger.
10. Use adaptive brightness or leave brightness at the lowest setting.
By doing this I was in fact able to achieve 5 hours on screen time. I hope this helps someone. Also, if you're a HUGE gamer on your phone. It is very important to realize you're never going to get that kind of on screen time.
Pictures of which services to disable within Disable Service are below: :good:
So basically turn off every function on the phone. So now it's a dumb phone with a big screen.
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Ulver said:
So basically turn off every function on the phone. So now it's a dumb phone with a big screen.
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Not really it's still a fully functional phone. Again this is if you want more battery life. Like any other device if you want full features, then you're going to jeopardize more battery. Pretty much common sense.
1) Rooting the device is complete overkill
2) Greenify has non-root functionality
3) Why not use Android's built in Disable feature. Most of those apps aren't going to just be running anyway. Freezing them is pointless
4) This is a can of worms that is going to have unforeseen consequences. Unless you know exactly what everyone of these services does and how they interact with each other and the OS, I wouldn't touch them
5) Good advice
6) The absolute best advice you've given. I'd suggest creating a Battery Saver settings shortcut on your homescreen and toggle on/off as necessary
7) Just install another launcher and set it as default
8) This is fine advice and is a matter of personal preference
9) Good advice
10) Adaptive brightness likely uses quite a bit of battery as it has to determine ambient lighting. Just set the lowest brightness level you can live with.
crachel said:
1) Rooting the device is complete overkill
2) Greenify has non-root functionality
3) Why not use Android's built in Disable feature. Most of those apps aren't going to just be running anyway. Freezing them is pointless
4) This is a can of worms that is going to have unforeseen consequences. Unless you know exactly what everyone of these services does and how they interact with each other and the OS, I wouldn't touch them
5) Good advice
6) The absolute best advice you've given. I'd suggest creating a Battery Saver settings shortcut on your homescreen and toggle on/off as necessary
7) Just install another launcher and set it as default
8) This is fine advice and is a matter of personal preference
9) Good advice
10) Adaptive brightness likely uses quite a bit of battery as it has to determine ambient lighting. Just set the lowest brightness level you can live with.
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I personally don't like the devices build in disable features because I've seen them still hog battery even though they claim they are "disabled" I suggested root because of using titanium backup which needs root as well. Again it's just personal preference. Not sure why you saying freezing apps is pointless. It accomplishes the same thing as disabling them
Ulver said:
So basically turn off every function on the phone. So now it's a dumb phone with a big screen.
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this. these threads amuse me whenever they pop up for each new device. turn off everything and like magic you have a phone that lasts days. this is stupid. i have every feature turned on my N6 at all times with auto brightness and can make it through the day just fine. on days when i use gmaps navigation i may have to quickcharge it for 20 min or so but that's pretty much it. just live your life and use your phone man. best advice i can give...
oh one more thing. facebook app is a notorious battery hog. here's some real advice: ditch it and just use the web portal. MUCH better...
funny, i keep most everything enabled and still get from 5.5-6.5 hours sot. nor do i ever turn on or use wifi. only lte here.
simms22 said:
funny, i keep most everything enabled and still get from 5.5-6.5 hours sot.
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There's no way you are dead stock and have everything enabled and get 5.5-6.5 hours on screen time unless you barely use your phone for anything. lol
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There's no way you are dead stock and have everything enabled and get 5.5-6.5 hours on screen time unless you barely use your phone for anything. lol
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who said anything about being stock? even though i had the same battery life when i was on stock. being stock or custom rom doesnt matter anyways. its about how i have my phone and cpu set up, what apps i install, and about my phone/data signal quality. and yes, im a heavy user, not at all a light user. but i do not game very much, mostly a browser user.
simms22 said:
who said anything about being stock? even though i had the same battery life when i was on stock. being stock or custom rom doesnt matter anyways. its about how i have my phone and cpu set up, what apps i install, and about my phone/data signal quality. and yes, im a heavy user, not at all a light user. but i do not game very much, mostly a browser user.
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What specific rom/kernel and settings are you using to achieve such battery life?
drivel2787 said:
What specific rom/kernel and settings are you using to achieve such battery life?
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i run rastapop or terminus(with either elementalx or franco kernel), at 3033mhz/300mhz(ondemand/deadline or conservative/deadline for franco) with all 4 cores on all the time(no hotplugging). mpdecision always disabled. i never use the default kernels settings, and always set up my cpu my way. but i live in nyc, with great tmobile coverage. battery life has much to do with the quality of coverage that you get btw.
Im stock and get 5.8hr SOT.
PunishedSnake said:
Im stock and get 5.8hr SOT.
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Screenshots or BS
crachel said:
1) Rooting the device is complete overkill
2) Greenify has non-root functionality
3) Why not use Android's built in Disable feature. Most of those apps aren't going to just be running anyway. Freezing them is pointless
4) This is a can of worms that is going to have unforeseen consequences. Unless you know exactly what everyone of these services does and how they interact with each other and the OS, I wouldn't touch them
5) Good advice
6) The absolute best advice you've given. I'd suggest creating a Battery Saver settings shortcut on your homescreen and toggle on/off as necessary
7) Just install another launcher and set it as default
8) This is fine advice and is a matter of personal preference
9) Good advice
10) Adaptive brightness likely uses quite a bit of battery as it has to determine ambient lighting. Just set the lowest brightness level you can live with.
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You skipped 8. Lol
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since i never drain my battery completely, here is my battery at 50%(was an especially good night, usually its around 3.5h sot at 50%). no game playing here, mostly browser and hangouts..
simms22 said:
since i never drain my battery completely, here is my battery at 50%(was an especially good night, usually its around 3.5h sot at 50%). no game playing here, mostly browser and hangouts..
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Booya!!!!!!!!!
Same here I get some good days and great days. 5.8 is one of the good. one day of 7 was great lol.
PunishedSnake said:
Booya!!!!!!!!!
Same here I get some good days and great days. 5.8 is one of the good. one day of 7 was great lol.
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absolutely. it cant be the same every day, but 5.5-7h sot is where it averages. mostly around 6h sot is what i get. but i really rarely reach near 10% battery left.
PunishedSnake said:
Booya!!!!!!!!!
Same here I get some good days and great days. 5.8 is one of the good. one day of 7 was great lol.
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yea i dunno why people try to call 'bs' on these things. i float during the day between everything disabled or stream and hog data at will. it takes like 10 seconds to cycle between the 2 'modes' and i like to test this things limits. i have turned in a 10 hour SOT before and rubbed it in my buddys iPhace, but that was a bizarre one. 5+ is the cellar. 6 is common. 7 is great. 8 is a chore.
leank is mostly why uc/uv, pure 3.98 stripped some w nano gapps and ones i choose, dark theme
edit: i meant to add: there are differences in hardware that MAY result in differences as well
i feel that the huge difference is network quality, for some, no matter what they do, they cant go over 4h sot. i think this is where network quality comes in. also, screen brightness is very important. keep it as low as you can, lol.
One thing I'm noticing is how much the Turbo charger affects battery life. I have a Nokia Qi wireless charger built into my nightstand that I typically use for charging my Qi devices at night. I only recently started using QC2.0 chargers in the car and next to that same nightstand and have seen much better results already. My 6 is trending to hit about 5.5 hours of SoT today whereas 4 was the norm previously.
I often have to be very persistent in training the phone for brightness in the auto mode. Especially in the evening, when the brightness slider is to the left of the middle. I set the desired brightness, but it is not fixed. You have to do it 10 times or more, and after a minute the brightness again lives its own life. Has anyone come across this on customs ROMs? Everything was great on stock.
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I often have to be very persistent in training the phone for brightness in the auto mode. Especially in the evening, when the brightness slider is to the left of the middle. I set the desired brightness, but it is not fixed. You have to do it 10 times or more, and after a minute the brightness again lives its own life. Has anyone come across this on customs ROMs? Everything was great on stock.
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Turn off auto brightness Its Simple
(I dont understood your issue propperly...)
ai.Sanaul said:
Turn off auto brightness Its Simple
(I dont understood your issue propperly...)
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Maybe you don't know auto-brightness can be trained due to users preferences. At least it works on stock.
Or don't you use auto-brightness at all?
I am accustomed to auto-brightness at any time of a day and I like to use it. I don't want to change it mannualy after each changes of circumstances.
However on the custom ROM the process isn't so easy. I just have doubts if it will be successful at all.
Bookworm Yevgen said:
Maybe you don't know auto-brightness can be trained due to users preferences. At least it works on stock.
Or don't you use auto-brightness at all?
I am accustomed to auto-brightness at any time of a day and I like to use it. I don't want to change it mannualy after each changes of circumstances.
However on the custom ROM the process isn't so easy. I just have doubts if it will be successful at all.
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i,m on Samsung J2 Pro 2018(i use most) with Super Amoled screen and my phone dosent supports auto brightness but i've seen in Redmi 9 Power (second phone i have) that it works according to light around you and cant be trained at all... i think you been talking about another concept, sorry... Tell me about it more if you can so i can learen about it.
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i,m on Samsung J2 Pro 2018(i use most) with Super Amoled screen and my phone dosent supports auto brightness but i've seen in Redmi 9 Power (second phone i have) that it works according to light around you and cant be trained at all... i think you been talking about another concept, sorry... Tell me about it more if you can so i can learen about it.
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There is nothing special to say more here. Just in the auto-brightness mode, the user sets the slider to the desired level at any time. This is repeated a certain number of times and after that the phone remembers the new settings and, depending on this, the new auto-brightness algorithm works. The learning process for brightness is endless. You can adjust it anytime to your preference. In any case, it worked fine on stock and the phone memorized new settings very quickly.
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There is nothing special to say more here. Just in the auto-brightness mode, the user sets the slider to the desired level at any time. This is repeated a certain number of times and after that the phone remembers the new settings and, depending on this, the new auto-brightness algorithm works. The learning process for brightness is endless. You can adjust it anytime to your preference. In any case, it worked fine on stock and the phone memorized new settings very quickly.
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oh! its a cool thing. Thanks
I tried A11, A12, A13 ROMs, and after that I'm on A10 stock again. I think that's the best way for me to keep my nerve sells. Now the autobrigness doesn't even need additional training.