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Alarm while phone is off!!

Hi, has someone developed a way to sound the alarm when the phone is off?? I saw somehere that you need to program the alarm in the BIOS.
I really hate to call these 'smartphones' when a basic phone would do that!! Alarm clocks are a passe anyways!

Flight mode is the way.
It is useless to switch off the phone...in flight mode the battery has almost no drains (1% at most).

monilhathi said:
Hi, has someone developed a way to sound the alarm when the phone is off?? I saw somehere that you need to program the alarm in the BIOS.
I really hate to call these 'smartphones' when a basic phone would do that!! Alarm clocks are a passe anyways!
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That's because when you switch the phone off IT IS OFF.
A Nokia, say, doesn't switch off - it goes into flight mode and switches the screen off.
If you notice a Nokia phone loses battery power even when swithed off because in fact it is still on. That's why the alarms go off
Therefor: Switch to flightmode and turn the screen off = same result - but smarter !!!!

Why then there is a 'Flight mode' option in Nokia as well? Cant seem to understand this??

monilhathi said:
Why then there is a 'Flight mode' option in Nokia as well? Cant seem to understand this??
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It's a feature Nokia added so people could turn the phone signals off manually in situations where it was unwanted. On planes for example.

You could try this
Ageye G-Alarm, is isn't free but claims to
"Save battery power overnight
Using the integrated flight mode you can turn off the phone and therefore minimize the battery drain until the next alarm. Afterwards G-Alarm automatically turns your phone on again."
Same thing, but might do it automatically, but its too much for me, I don't need all the functions so haven't tried it.

Thanks! But would not want to use two third party apps just for the alarm! Looks like I might need to get back to my old & trusted alarm clock or use my other Nokia phone!

monilhathi said:
Thanks! But would not want to use two third party apps just for the alarm! Looks like I might need to get back to my old & trusted alarm clock or use my other Nokia phone!
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Which two 3rd party apps are involved in using flight mode? (by my count none are used)
You can even configure a long hold of the hang-up button to enable it if you want in button config...
P.

monilhathi said:
Why then there is a 'Flight mode' option in Nokia as well? Cant seem to understand this??
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In Flight mode, you can still use your phone in "off-line" mode, you can even use WiFi... so saying that turned off Nokia is actually still ON - only in flight mode - can only say someone who doesn't have a clue what is going on inside the phones. Turning Symbian phones OFF/ON means soft reset, does turning Flight mode ON/Off means soft reset in any phone? Of course not.
Take your laptop - there is power save mode, sleep mode and hibernation. But OS (say Windows) is still running, even it is on the lowest possible level, so a few external inputs (keyboard, mouse, modem), most of them you can specify in Bios, can bring the system from stanby or even hybernation mode. When you turn off your Nokia, operating system (Symbian and Maemo too) is completely off. But the internal clock chip is still running, althoug only on cca 1/100th of clock rate. When you turn phone off, the info from the alarm clock is written to this chip, telling him after how many those slow cycles he suppose to wake up (if there is anough power from the battery left). Would be easy to implement this to any phone hardware, HTC, Sony ... they'll just have to run something else than Win OS. So blame the Microsoft - but go easy on them - it's relict from the old ages of PDA, when Windows and phones were two totaly different things. Whatever I wrote is not a 100% accurate, but I was trying to make it simple and uderstandable. BTW any phone (HTC also) is loosing battery capacity when is OFF. Actually, take the battery out and it will still loosing power, after some time in even more (in hot and humid conditions) than when you leave it in the deep level stage inside the Nokia.

Alarm not working!!

The alarm on the handset does not go off? Has anyone else had this experience.. I've set it for the whole week.. and not once has it set off the alarm?? Luckily i had a backup alarm incase this one did not work.. Surley this must have a fully working sounding alarm!!!

fojis1982 said:
The alarm on the handset does not go off? Has anyone else had this experience.. I've set it for the whole week.. and not once has it set off the alarm?? Luckily i had a backup alarm incase this one did not work.. Surley this must have a fully working sounding alarm!!!
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I have not had any problems with the alarm... have used it almost every day for three weeks now...
... But keep in mind that the alarm does not go off if you turn the device off... (that is a bit annoying, since other SonyEricsson phones support alarm while being turned off!.. However.. just set it to flight-mode instead.. problem solved!)
Regards // OwL

Are you using a task manager and killing the alarm clock?

OwLOwLOwL said:
I have not had any problems with the alarm... have used it almost every day for three weeks now...
... But keep in mind that the alarm does not go off if you turn the device off... (that is a bit annoying, since other SonyEricsson phones support alarm while being turned off!.. However.. just set it to flight-mode instead.. problem solved!)
Regards // OwL
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If i set it to flight mode overnight how can i receive phone calls. My job involves me being on call on some nights.. So if the display of the phone is off you saying i can not get the alarm to sound off in the morning?

fojis1982 said:
If i set it to flight mode overnight how can i receive phone calls. My job involves me being on call on some nights.. So if the display of the phone is off you saying i can not get the alarm to sound off in the morning?
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No... That was not what I meant... ofcourse having the phone on (normal, non-flight-mode) works just aswell too!.. I meant, if you usually switch off your phone at night, then the alarm wont go off!.. and instead of switching the phone completely off, one can use flight-mode instead...
Leaving the phone on (either in flight-mode or non-flight-mode) causes my alarm to work as it should.
Regards // OwL

I also had a similar issue and tracked it down to the Task-killer killing the alarm application. It took me a while to realise that the 'Clock' on my homescreen had also been stopped when using the 'task manager'. I added the clock to the ignore list and everything has worked fine since then...

fojis1982 said:
The alarm on the handset does not go off? Has anyone else had this experience.. I've set it for the whole week.. and not once has it set off the alarm?? Luckily i had a backup alarm incase this one did not work.. Surley this must have a fully working sounding alarm!!!
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I had the same problem all last week - and yeah it was my own fault as i was killing all apps with advanced task killer. Only realised that this mornig So don't kill the alarm app.....i wonder what the battery drain is by leaving it on?

cashaw said:
I also had a similar issue and tracked it down to the Task-killer killing the alarm application. It took me a while to realise that the 'Clock' on my homescreen had also been stopped when using the 'task manager'. I added the clock to the ignore list and everything has worked fine since then...
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Thanks.. Will give this a try tonight.. Hopefully I wont be late for work tmrw

cashaw said:
I also had a similar issue and tracked it down to the Task-killer killing the alarm application. It took me a while to realise that the 'Clock' on my homescreen had also been stopped when using the 'task manager'. I added the clock to the ignore list and everything has worked fine since then...
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Nice one cashaw.. this has worked a treat!

For me alarm is working but i don't know how to set up the phone to start the alarm when an event in calendar is about to start
Any ideas?

The alarm on my X10 is not working properly. There is a bug somewhere. On at least three occassions it failed to wake me up in the morning. This morning as well and the last thing I did before going to bed was making sure the alarm function was running. I have now tested the alarm a couple of times by creating new alarms and they all work.
btw: The one not working was set to go off every day at 07:00. It did work the first morning.
Phone: Model x10i, Firmware:1.6, Baseband:1.0.14, Kernel:2.6.26-rel [email protected] #2, Build no.:R1FA014

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The alarm on my X10 is not working properly. There is a bug somewhere. On at least three occassions it failed to wake me up in the morning. This morning as well and the last thing I did before going to bed was making sure the alarm function was running. I have now tested the alarm a couple of times by creating new alarms and they all work.
btw: The one not working was set to go off every day at 07:00. It did work the first morning.
Phone: Model x10i, Firmware:1.6, Baseband:1.0.14, Kernel:2.6.26-rel [email protected] #2, Build no.:R1FA014
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Did you try to ignore alarm in task killer/manager? Since i did that my alarm works fine and it's set to go off every day at 7 like yours.

Ya had the same problem and task killer was to blame. Would definetly start there.
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That sounds about right! I think,you should use kaloer clock, much much cooler than the original one!
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Tablet keeps turning on after I turn it off?

Every time I turn off my tablet, the next time I go to use it, it's already on.
Anyone have any suggestions? Is this something that other people are experiencing?
Thanks!

Never experienced that
I don't know, My first N7 is faulty but not that bad, maybe your tablet is reading your mind and it turns on when your thinking about using it?

How are you turning it off? Tapping the power button only turns off display.
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i am powering it down by holding power and pressing power off.

joshtb86 said:
i am powering it down by holding power and pressing power off.
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That's weird. Are you rooted? Running a rom? On stock? Some additional details would be helpful to solve your problem.

woops - forgot. it is in my signature but i completely fogot.
im stock, unlocked, rooted, 4.1.1. stock ROM and kernel.

anyone else?

joshtb86 said:
anyone else?
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It's clearly haunted.
Or an app is waking it up to sync / find location / steal and transmit your data.
Have you tried running Avast ? Locking all the running apps ?

compact_bijou said:
It's clearly haunted.
Or an app is waking it up to sync / find location / steal and transmit your data.
Have you tried running Avast ? Locking all the running apps ?
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Don't think an app can turn it on after its been shut down..

Mungulz said:
Don't think an app can turn it on after its been shut down..
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So how does the alarm clock work :laugh:
And he hasn't said he's shut it down, he said he's switched it off.

joshtb86 said:
Every time I turn off my tablet, the next time I go to use it, it's already on.
Anyone have any suggestions? Is this something that other people are experiencing?
Thanks!
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quite strange..
I don't believe apps can turn it on when it's off..so if you turn your N7 off, your alarm is disabled. at least, I'm pretty sure of that.
And, so you watch it turn off all the way? And later on it's on?
Is it plugged in to the charger?
Have you ever watched it for a little while [while you were doing something else, just glancing at it once in a while] to see if it just randomly turns on?

mvmacd said:
quite strange..
I don't believe apps can turn it on when it's off..so if you turn your N7 off, your alarm is disabled. at least, I'm pretty sure of that
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I'm pretty sure that I turn my N7 off at night and the alarm wakes me up in the morning.

compact_bijou said:
I'm pretty sure that I turn my N7 off at night and the alarm wakes me up in the morning.
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really? but how does that work?
that means the clock app must be able to control the rtc hardware, and tell it to power up at a certain time... I didn't know they'd done that on the N7...

mvmacd said:
quite strange..
I don't believe apps can turn it on when it's off..so if you turn your N7 off, your alarm is disabled. at least, I'm pretty sure of that.
And, so you watch it turn off all the way? And later on it's on?
Is it plugged in to the charger?
Have you ever watched it for a little while [while you were doing something else, just glancing at it once in a while] to see if it just randomly turns on?
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i watch it turn off the entire way. then later it is on when i go to use it.
not plugged in when this happens.
doesnt randomly turn on when on standby.
does the alarm wake it? the calendar alerts? im not sure but i hjave a ton of calendar events everyday

joshtb86 said:
i watch it turn off the entire way. then later it is on when i go to use it.
not plugged in when this happens.
doesnt randomly turn on when on standby.
does the alarm wake it? the calendar alerts? im not sure but i hjave a ton of calendar events everyday
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OK, what if you temporary disable the calendar alerts? does it still happen?

mvmacd said:
OK, what if you temporary disable the calendar alerts? does it still happen?
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How do I disable them?

joshtb86 said:
How do I disable them?
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Calendar -> Settings -> General Settings -> uncheck Notifications
It's a shot in the dark but who knows..
Or I suppose if you like you could disable calendar sync in Accounts & Sync, and then erase Calendar's data.

Alarm while powered off

Hi can someone on stock rom please try to see if alarms go off while phone is off? It don't seem to work on pure nexus which is worrying.

Do you mean when the phone's screen is off, when the phone is on silent, or if the phone is physically off?
If your phone's screen is off, the alarm will go off, if your phone is silent, your alarm will go off. If your phone is off, then it is off and the alarm will not go off.

dahotz said:
Do you mean when the phone's screen is off, when the phone is on silent, or if the phone is physically off?
If your phone's screen is off, the alarm will go off, if your phone is silent, your alarm will go off. If your phone is off, then it is off and the alarm will not go off.
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I mean when its physically off.
My HTC M9 did it as Google implemented this in 4.0 or 5.0 not sure.
It was not a HTC feature.

What the .. How is the alarm supposed to go off of the phone is powered off and the OS is not running. You are indeed mistaken about this.
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[hfm] said:
What the .. How is the alarm supposed to go off of the phone is powered off...
Sent from a 128th Legion Stormtrooper 6P
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^^ as said above. Makes me wonder what sorcery is HTC using?

badboy47 said:
^^ as said above. Makes me wonder what sorcery is HTC using?
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HTC devices don't truly turn off, they're in a kind of hibernate mode, similar to Windows 8. If you let the battery drain entirely on a HTC device it takes much longer to boot afterwards.

Nekromantik said:
Hi can someone on stock rom please try to see if alarms go off while phone is off? It don't seem to work on pure nexus which is worrying.
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I think the above post explains it all for you. Nexus phones do not have such feature as your HTC did. When the phone is powered down it is as if the battery was pulled and it is truly off. No alarms will go off.

I had had fastboot turned off on my HTC so it did not hibernate.
Guess HTC found a way to do it. Never mind, need to make sure I always have enough charge for airplane mode and nights sleep.

Nekromantik said:
I had had fastboot turned off on my HTC so it did not hibernate.
Guess HTC found a way to do it. Never mind, need to make sure I always have enough charge for airplane mode and nights sleep.
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Why do you need airplane mode? If doze works properly, then it shouldn't lose power quickly. But why not just charge the phone while you are sleeping and have your phone on silent if you don't want to be bothered?

Plenty of phones have this feature, but not on any Android I know of (I don't have an M9 but my M7 does not do this). My old Nokia E63 did it as well.
I wish more phones would have it though, as its great not having to worry about that one time your battery dies overnight and your alarm doesn't go off.

Tarima said:
Plenty of phones have this feature, but not on any Android I know of (I don't have an M9 but my M7 does not do this). My old Nokia E63 did it as well.
I wish more phones would have it though, as its great not having to worry about that one time your battery dies overnight and your alarm doesn't go off.
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It used work on my Galaxy S3 & S4 as well. you need to have encryption disabled and password on start up disabled to make it work. I did not try that on my 6P, because my work forces me to encrypt my phone.

Alarm with phone off
My mate 9 has this feature. I set my alarm for whatever time. When I power my phone off there is a box that has a check mark in it saying keep alarm active after power off. If I leave the checkmark in my phone alarm will still ring at the desired time. Even though a phone is off there is still internal power to the clock. Works great. Hope this helps.

6P probably doesn't have the required H/W (and associated boot-loader).
Disabling encryption or setting File-based encryption or disabling pin to start will only help if the phone reboots itself.

Alarm Sporadically Works

I have started having issues with the Alarm on my 6P. I have three reoccurring alarms set up throughout the week. Sometimes they work sometimes they don't. It's as if the time is not being recognized because it could be 6:39am and the alarm was set to go off at 6:30am and it'll say upcoming alarm at 6:30am. I do not think this is inherent to the 6P as it seems like others are having issues on other devices running Marshmallow. Is anyone else experiencing this and have any solutions?

There is an issue with 6.0 and the doze feature that puts the alarm to sleep. The only fix is to have it plugged in

zelendel said:
There is an issue with 6.0 and the doze feature that puts the alarm to sleep. The only fix is to have it plugged in
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I will have to make a note to check. I'm 75% positive my phone was plugged into the charger when the alarm failed to go off. I was also playing a game one of the times and I still had an issue so I'm not sure the doze feature is the culprit.

Macleod52 said:
I will have to make a note to check. I'm 75% positive my phone was plugged into the charger when the alarm failed to go off. I was also playing a game one of the times and I still had an issue so I'm not sure the doze feature is the culprit.
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Then im really not sure as I have never had an issue with my alarm, but I charge my phone over night and was only recently told about the alarm bug in 6.0. I also use alarm millennium plus.

zelendel said:
Then im really not sure as I have never had an issue with my alarm, but I charge my phone over night and was only recently told about the alarm bug in 6.0. I also use alarm millennium plus.
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I, too, charge my phone overnight but I'm using the stock clock app. What's weird is that I was running 6.0 on my Nexus 5 for a month or two prior to getting my 6P and I never had a problem. I also just started experiencing this issue within the last week.

Maybe change the clock app to not optimised in the battery settings?
Do you use any app like greenify with aggressive doze? That would sometimes make my clock stop working which could mess up alarms.

__NBH__ said:
Maybe change the clock app to not optimised in the battery settings?
Do you use any app like greenify with aggressive doze? That would sometimes make my clock stop working which could mess up alarms.
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I'll have to try changing the optimization settings. I don't use any apps that would modify system features like doze or anything like that.

Same issue here. Even tried to not optimize my alarm app. Only way to consistently have the alarm go off was to create an alarm in the stock alarm app to go off a little after. For now, I'm just using stock until this is fixed. Late for work too many times recently.
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