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Incredible thoughts so far...

So I've had the Incredible since launch day and must say that I'm very pleased with it. The first day I had a couple of random reboots and on day two my phone was awake 100% of the time. I did a battery pull and haven't had any issues since. The following is long so I've sectioned it off. Read what you want and leave the rest for others to read. I'm sure some of you have had different experiences, but this is mine and these are my opinions.
Battery Discussion
Others have complained that the battery is less than stellar (at least in the forums I've read). I always try to hold off judgment early on for two reasons: 1. It's a new toy and I'm prone to using the crap out of it & 2. I think battery calibration time is needed for the phone. This isn't for the battery but time for the phone to calibrate with how the battery discharges. I used the stock 1300mAh battery for the first week and started using a Seidio 1750 on Saturday.
I know this is a hot debate, and I even started to doubt my purchase after placing the order. I read reports and claims that Seidio battery's are only good for 84% of their claimed capacities and such. When the battery arrived on Friday (the 1750mAh btw), I waited till the end of the night before installing it. I powered down the phone, inserted the battery, and left it to charge while turned off. The following day I had extremely heavy use. GPS ran for 1 1/2 hours (display on), Slacker Radio for 45 minutes, lots of web browsing, and sitting in a theater with poor signal (it was hunting for 90 minutes). At the end of day one I had around 5 hours of awake time and 12 hours of uptime before it started running low. Sunday the phone saw moderate use through most of the day. I wanted to drain the battery before bed so I turned on all my radios, jacked up the brightness, and played videos for about 90-120 minutes before it shutdown for the evening. Monday I had similar results to Sunday, I was getting about 6 hours of awake time with 14+ hours of uptime. Actually on Monday I didn't even wear the phone down to the point of shutting down. I only got it to 10% or so, not sure on the awake (over 5 for sure) time but my uptime was 15 1/2 hours.
I did notice something funny this morning. I forgot to charge my phone while off last night and woke up to a fully charged unit (according to the green indicator). I unplugged the phone and checked the HTC battery widget, 93%!?!?! This was after 7 hours of charging. I turned the phone off and let it charge to green while powered off. This confirms what I've heard others say, that the phone is not fully charging the battery and falls short about the last 10% or so.
Screen Protector
I ordered Phantom Skinz matte protector Friday from Amazon for $18. This is my first dealing with Phantom Skinz and my order came in yesterday. I actually got 2 x matte finish and 2x regular protectors. I tried the matte out and hated it, so on came the normal and it's nice. I have used Zagg's Invisible Shield(on an iPhone) and I couldn't believe the difference. Application was the easiest I've ever experienced and I'm very happy with it. As time goes on I'll get a better feel for it, but the initial impression is good.
Case
I've been using the Silicone Gel Verizon case and like it for a temporary cover until something better comes out. As others have reported Otter Box just put in a product suggestion for me and I don't see anything on Case-Mate's webiste I'm sure the demand will bring about a product soon, just email and let them know there's a demand.
Compared to other Android devices I've used...
It's awesome and feels like the Android phone I've been waiting for. I've tried the Sprint Hero, Motorola Droid, and Verizon Eris. While they were all good they just fell short in areas that seem to bother me. The Incredible has a fitting name in my book and the camera is leaps and bounds better than what I expected.
Compared to my iPhone/iPad experience
I'll say this, Android is a better fit for me on the phone platform. I left the iPhone for my Eris which has recently been sold to fund my Incredible. I got an iPad shortly after launch, but after getting the Incredible I find that it only serves as an e-reader for me.

That's quite the remarkable story you've got there. Not enough to be incredible P), but remarkable nonetheless.
Also, why did you hate the matte finish so much? Does it interfere with the performance of the touch screen?

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Also, why did you hate the matte finish so much? Does it interfere with the performance of the touch screen?
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LOL, thanks for the comments. I didn't like the matte screen because it really blurred the screen a ton. Touchscreen responsiveness was still great, but it killed the clarity of the screen.

Tilt2 to Droid Incredible
I came from the Tilt2 on AT&T and I LOVE this phone and almost everything about it. What I am not exactly pleased with Verizon's CDMA.
I dislike how I have to disable "Always Connected Data" to get decent battery life. On my Tilt2, I could stay on MSN messenger 24/7 with very little impact on my battery. With that option off my battery life is much better, but Meebo also shows me offline a lot on MSN.
Also those AT&T commercials about the "No data+voice" is ringing true. Already there has been 4 instances in a 4 day period where that has caused me a problem. I guess it was something I took for granted on AT&T.
I guess I am stuck here for 2 years, because I just can't go back to AT&T and their lack of decent phones. They must have some sort of agreement with Apple to limit what phones they offer in order to maintain their exclusivity. I was hoping to get a decent Android or Windows Phone 7 on AT&T but I doubt that will ever happen.

I came from xv6800 on Verizon. So far I'm impressed. I love the speed of the phone. Internet is super quick and very fluid. Not to mention it also does flash lite which is a definite plus. The only issue I have is probably the battery. It could be better, but it's not horrible.
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I dislike how I have to disable "Always Connected Data" to get decent battery life. On my Tilt2, I could stay on MSN messenger 24/7 with very little impact on my battery. With that option off my battery life is much better, but Meebo also shows me offline a lot on MSN.
Also those AT&T commercials about the "No data+voice" is ringing true. Already there has been 4 instances in a 4 day period where that has caused me a problem. I guess it was something I took for granted on AT&T.
I guess I am stuck here for 2 years, because I just can't go back to AT&T and their lack of decent phones. They must have some sort of agreement with Apple to limit what phones they offer in order to maintain their exclusivity. I was hoping to get a decent Android or Windows Phone 7 on AT&T but I doubt that will ever happen.
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Really? you have to turn off "Always Connected Data"? I keep mine on all the time. I also keep GPS on and I get a full day's worth. Granted, I don't have msn or any chat client on all the time.
Hey At&t is suppose to get the galaxy s. That phone looks like a beast. I have no idea when that's coming out though.

Past Windows Mobile user
Well let me start by saying that this is my first Android phone. I am a long time user of Windows CE PocketPC Mobile. (Hmm, I guess this implementation of BB doesn't have strikethrough enabled, but you get the point.)
An iPaq lured me away from Palm; the Samsung i-760 convinced me to switch from a PPC and mobile phone, to an all-in one device; and now the Incredible has gotten me to switch platforms.
I had seriously considered jumping carriers for the iPhone, but alas, where I live AT&T doesn't have a great signal, and those few that do have them, are waiting until their contract ends to jump to Sprint or Verizon.
I wasn't the one who "discovered" the Incredible though - I was happy with my Imagio (thanks to Energy ROM, found here) and had just switched from the TouchPro. My wife was up for a new phone, and got the Incredible, which I then had to set up for her! After four hours (no, it doesn't take that long to set up, I just played around with it for that long!) I was hooked. I went back the next day, and they still had one in stock. I switched and haven't looked back.
I haven't found any reason to mod the rom (or I guess it's rooting on Android), and the sheer speed is awesome. I felt like a traitor to Windows Mobile (hey it was a long term relationship remember), but that only lasted about two days.
I miss hand-writing recognition for SMS and data-entry, but other than that, this is a device that you will love. Spend a few minutes with it, try it out if you can get your hands on it. You will never look back.

Thoughts on YOUR Atrix?

Delete.

i'm very happy with the phone. the only caveat i really have (which a lot of people don't seem to have) is battery life. i get about 13-14 hours with 3-4 hours of display-on time, while others have been reporting double that.
as far as motoblur is concerned, if you just get another launcher and use Titanium Backup Pro to freeze motoblur Home and other services, then you won't even have to think about it.

rdubyah said:
I should be receiving my Atrix for AT&T tomorrow, this will be a HUGGGGGGEEEEEE upgrade from my measly HTC Hero (Sprint CDMA) that I have modified to the ends of the Earth. I'm in need of more power and amazed at the stuff you can do with the Atrix.
My question to you all, has this phone met or surpassed your expectations? Did it fail to achieve those expectations? Tell me what you think of this phone, I have been reading so many reviews about the phone I feel like I know all technological aspects about the phone as well, haha.
How fast were you to get rid of MotoBlur?
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I think I can speak for a lot of people in saying that, as far as the Atrix goes, I am in love with the "potential" this phone has. But as far as meeting those expectations, well, that's something to be debated. There are areas where the dual core shines and other areas it seems it is not harnessing the full power. Then couple that with AT&T's network restrictions and Motorola's lockdown on the device, I'm going to have to say that I am disappointed in the Atrix as of now. That could change if there is a break through in the bootloader or if AT&T gets its act together and starts offering the "High speeds" we were promised. Only problem is though, my 30 days is almost up and I don't know if I can hold onto the phone in hopes of "potential".

Coming from a captivate I love this phone...everything works includi.g the gps. Most of motoblur is gone on my phone. The phone is amazingly fast but does have an occasional hiccup. An unlocked bootloader would turn this into the best available android phone but its one of the top
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live4nyy said:
...Only problem is though, my 30 days is almost up and I don't know if I can hold onto the phone in hopes of "potential".
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I'm in the same boat. In terms of hardware, this phone is a beast. I can even live with the screen quality and the terrible camera. But software side, I am really hoping to see a unlocked bootloader or I might be very tempted to take this phone back...

bleuiko said:
I'm in the same boat. In terms of hardware, this phone is a beast. I can even live with the screen quality and the terrible camera. But software side, I am really hoping to see a unlocked bootloader or I might be very tempted to take this phone back...
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Yeah, I'm high up on the fence because if I do return it I am going to switch carriers as well.

I'm really enjoying it... coming from a Tilt2, it's a major upgrade. Straight out of the box, it's very enjoyable... I'm not dissapointed at all.. it's only going to get better once they get this beast unleashed
Camera is quick and decent.
GPS is amazingly fast...
Browser is snappy and loads everything great
WiFi is a little weak...
and I actually like the screen.. It's not best screen ever made, but it's actually a very nice display.
I was getting terrible battery life, but somehow a hard-reset solved that problem, and i'm able to get more than a day of heavy use no problem.
Just picked up a second one for the wife (coming from an iphone 3g) and she's really enjoying it a lot as well

I like the Atrix. I upgraded from an iPhone 3G. I realize that it's not the best it can be as far as unlocking right now, but it is better than what I had. I only wish I could afford the webtop dock right now for times I'm on the road. Nothing a netbook couldn't fix though.

as far as the battery, it really has to do with what you're doing. I've seen mine go 39 hours over a weekend with normal use, or 16 hours when i'm streaming pandora constantly at work. My building for work also isn't great for signal, so the phone is constantly working for signal, which uses battery.
The other day i did ~5 hours of pandora at work, then fired up the GPS, which was on for ~1.5 hours guiding me, screen on, not plugged in. few phone calls and web use and it was almost dead after 15 hours.
This phone is miles better than the aria i had before it, and it will only get better as more things are updated to take advantage of the tegra 2 platform. Won't matter if this phone gets cracked or not, it will get better and better for a while either way.

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as far as the battery, it really has to do with what you're doing. I've seen mine go 39 hours over a weekend with normal use, or 16 hours when i'm streaming pandora constantly at work. My building for work also isn't great for signal, so the phone is constantly working for signal, which uses battery.
The other day i did ~5 hours of pandora at work, then fired up the GPS, which was on for ~1.5 hours guiding me, screen on, not plugged in. few phone calls and web use and it was almost dead after 15 hours.
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Wow... 39 hours. I get about 17 hours of use from it, which is much better than any other smartphones I've ever used so I'm happy... but I can't imagine hitting that number. I do have bluetooth and wifi on all the time.

I like my Atrix, the only problems i see is that the webtop is very limited, but some people over the developer section are working on that, and also the speeds which since T-Mobile was bought it definitely will become faster alongside with HSPA+ and LTE being utilized together. It has lots of potential to run REALLY great, but this is the first phone of its kind, it'll always have problems in the beginning.

bleuiko said:
Wow... 39 hours. I get about 17 hours of use from it, which is much better than any other smartphones I've ever used so I'm happy... but I can't imagine hitting that number. I do have bluetooth and wifi on all the time.
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and that cuts the battery way down. powering all the radios is a large power drain. I never turn on a radio i don't need, so 90% of the time wifi, bluetooth, gps, etc are off. Mobile data is always on, and i i never try and tell it to revert to 2g.

cegna09 said:
as far as the battery, it really has to do with what you're doing. I've seen mine go 39 hours over a weekend with normal use, or 16 hours when i'm streaming pandora constantly at work. My building for work also isn't great for signal, so the phone is constantly working for signal, which uses battery.
The other day i did ~5 hours of pandora at work, then fired up the GPS, which was on for ~1.5 hours guiding me, screen on, not plugged in. few phone calls and web use and it was almost dead after 15 hours.
This phone is miles better than the aria i had before it, and it will only get better as more things are updated to take advantage of the tegra 2 platform. Won't matter if this phone gets cracked or not, it will get better and better for a while either way.
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see... i wish i had that same kind of success.

It's always hard to determine battery life from these posts because people's definition of "moderate" and "heavy" usage differ a lot. This is why it would be nice if the phone had gingerbread where the battery plot actually shows the wake time, wifi time, signal strenth, display on, etc. so people could quote their results rather than just guestimating. The best way to tell is really just display on time since that's pretty much the biggest draw.
Based on my limited testing I can get about 4-5 hours of display on time with auto brightness. The absolute best I could squeeze out of my nexus S is almost 4 hours which is to be expected since it's 1930mah vs. 1500mah. I MIGHT do some battery drain tests before I return the Atrix but I'm not sure... those take time. I know the Nexus S can go about 7-8 hours playing a video while in airplane mode so I'm wondering what the Atrix could achieve.

dinan said:
It's always hard to determine battery life from these posts because people's definition of "moderate" and "heavy" usage differ a lot. This is why it would be nice if the phone had gingerbread where the battery plot actually shows the wake time, wifi time, signal strenth, display on, etc. so people could quote their results rather than just guestimating. The best way to tell is really just display on time since that's pretty much the biggest draw.
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We do have all those indicators in the Battery manager. I average about 13-14 hours with 3-4 hours of display, unless i'm doing something like streaming March Madness via flash, then it drops to like 7 hours with 2-3 hours of display.

Love it.
Honestly out of all the phones i've had this is the main one.
Screen great looking.
Speed is unreal and I mean like lightening fast :O
The games and apps that work just look and run crazy good!
Camera imo is great not going to replace main cameras but great for stills and videos, would be nice to see the 1080p recording update out soon though
Motoblur stuff which I like :O lol can be frozen and a custom launcher introduced without you even thinking about the motoblur lag.
Battery life is very good I can get a whole day at college 8:30 until 6 heavy usage and still get home with 30-40% left which is great to me
Fingerprint reader is also a great little feature that gets yours friends a little jealous lol
Only thing I don't like is the battery door creaks, I know its nothing major but its just a little annoyance other than that the build quality is great very sleek device!

I'm really bored with my Atrix there's no developement community. You can't do **** with a locked bootloader. Even the iphone is more open than this pos. It's going back tommorrow **** motorola.
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@ Exador... Amen brother!!!!
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I'm a firm believer in the "garbage in, garbage out" philosophy. Yes this phone has one or two legitimate issues (touch screen acting up after x seconds continuous touch), but for the most part is good. How many apps do you have installed? How many do you actually use? Every month i clean out my phone of apps that haven't been used in a couple weeks. I usually see a little bump in battery life each time since less apps are itching to use the data connection or other resources.
how many widgets are you running? I don't really notice it on the Atrix, but on my aria when i had 5 home screens riddled with widgets, it was laggy and slow. Drop it down to 2 screens with a simple setup, and it was snappy.
My point is, most of the time, little issues are probably user generated. I see it all the time with computers. But it's way easier to blame the hardware and software than look for the cause of your problem. again, i'm not down playing the few legitimate issues.
next time i pull a 39hour run i'll post specifics of what i was using it for in the battery thread.

I'm very happy with mine. I don't have much of a desire to put a custom ROM on, so the locked bootloader isn't an issue. The speed of this device is just levels beyond my Nexus One. I can't remember a time so far where I've had any lag. Plus, I don't have to worry about app space the way I did with the N1.

What more could you want in a phone?

I dunno, must just be me but I completely love this phone.
I'm going to be soon getting either the 4g FFC or the revision 2 FFC. Have not completely decided yet. ( I already have v1 of the FFC and I'm fine with how it acts... I don't often take pictures in the dark, ha.)
With the v1 FFC and bionix 1.3.1 with overstock. The phone is very responsive.. I do get a slight lag in between downloading and installing stages of getting apps, but that's far from the end of the world for me.
Besides that this phone is honestly perfect! I don't know what more I could want from a phone, haha.

I have the exact same setup you do, and the exact same experience. Aside from the GPS hiccups, this is quite possibly the best phone I've used. SAMoled is simply amazing and will keep me from switching phones when all the dual-cores come out. Plus, I know it's a small difference, but 4.3" just seems too big. My buddy has a droid x, and that thing is a monster!

I love my vibrant had it since release....

Waiting for the S2, other than that this phone has been GREAT !!

I love my phone. It really is wonderful.
samsung can eat a ____.
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This is definitely a great phone with tons of possibilities.

A solid gps and a flash for the camera

I never have gps problems, lag, or any of the usual things people complain about. I do not feel it's cheaply made, and it's a perfect size in an otterbox.
The only areas of improvement I can see are an FFC (which can be added), 4G capabilities, camera flash, and tweaking it more. A phone can never be too fast or too good on battery life.
The biggest thing that needs improving is the speed at getting updates and source from Samsung.

muathib said:
I have the exact same setup you do, and the exact same experience. Aside from the GPS hiccups, this is quite possibly the best phone I've used. SAMoled is simply amazing and will keep me from switching phones when all the dual-cores come out. Plus, I know it's a small difference, but 4.3" just seems too big. My buddy has a droid x, and that thing is a monster!
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i love does big things bro but i love my vibrant

I want mine to do my chores

nomadrider123 said:
A solid gps and a flash for the camera
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The GPS deal , well... that's hit or miss it seems. Mine on the other hand works perfect and has worked fine since I got it right after release.
Flash... well ya knew it didn't have flash when you went to get it, so... yeah.
I love this phone. It's tough , even though it feels light and wimpy. It's super fast, the screen is beautiful and there's so many ROMs and mods to customize it the way you like it that I'm never bored with it.

Had a galaxy s 4G, it was a disappointment but I miss the ffc!
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I just wish the GPS would lock in a little quicker and that the battery was a little better.

jRi0T68 said:
I never have gps problems, lag, or any of the usual things people complain about. I do not feel it's cheaply made, and it's a perfect size in an otterbox.
The only areas of improvement I can see are an FFC (which can be added), 4G capabilities, camera flash, and tweaking it more. A phone can never be too fast or too good on battery life.
The biggest thing that needs improving is the speed at getting updates and source from Samsung.
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I never understood the cheap feeling people got from it either, and I had a hd2 that is supposed to be the best build quality in a phone, my vibrant may not be that solid, but hell, its solid....

It's plastic and yea it feels cheap. The HD2 is in another dimension. It does feel cheap, but that's nothing a Body Glove or Otterbox case can't fix trivially.
The battery and GPS is a bigger issue, though... Both of those are terrible. If I take my Vibrant off the charger and never use it, 30% of the time the phone will drain to nothing in 4 hours. I have no clue how it's doing it, why it's doing it. The battery is good (I've tried a brand new Stock Samsung OEM battery replacement) and it still happens. It has the most Volatile Battery Life I've ever experienced in a Mobile Phone, or any mobile device, ever...
A couple months ago I went to Houston for a couple days and forgot to take my Wall Charger... I ended up having to plug my phone into the Samsung HDTV in the room becasue the battery was dying all over the place. I had to stand there tethered to a television just to use my phone. Wanted to talk? Go to the TV. Check your Twitter/Email? You know where to go...
Even on the car charger, the phone would barely charge. I was basically < 50% charge 90% of the time I was there, and even had to turn my phone off for like 3-4 hours when I was getting stuff done to make sure it didn't die on me.
That is something I had never experienced using my Windows Mobile (6.5) devices or Aria, and the HD7 doesn't do this. The Blackberry Bold I tried out for a couple weeks could go 2-3 days with extremely heavy usage on one charge, and charged fast as ****... Even on a Car Charger while being used.
The GPS in the Vibrant was constantly putting me on the wrong road, or on the service road when I was on the other side of the Interstate. At intersections, the GPS would bug out and it would take it upwards of 1-2 minutes to straighten itself out.
Back to the battery. I think the cell radio is killing it. When the phone is on WiFi, it can work about 18-24 hours before it you have to turn it off, because it's not using the cell radio for anything. So, I think a lot of people who say their battery is so good are probably on WiFi most of the time, and likely don't make that many phone calls.
As far as updates are concerned, KA6 was a hail mary and I think Samsung would like to not have this phone even be mentioned in headlines, since those same articles will just remind potential buyers of their other phones just how terrible their Android support/updating actually is. They want to move on. They even bothered to miff up the Software on their WP7 devices. If Samsung touches any software, they will make sure they find a way to miff it up.

N8ter said:
It's plastic and yea it feels cheap. The HD2 is in another dimension. It does feel cheap, but that's nothing a Body Glove or Otterbox case can't fix trivially.
The battery and GPS is a bigger issue, though... Both of those are terrible. If I take my Vibrant off the charger and never use it, 30% of the time the phone will drain to nothing in 4 hours. I have no clue how it's doing it, why it's doing it. The battery is good (I've tried a brand new Stock Samsung OEM battery replacement) and it still happens. It has the most Volatile Battery Life I've ever experienced in a Mobile Phone, or any mobile device, ever...
A couple months ago I went to Houston for a couple days and forgot to take my Wall Charger... I ended up having to plug my phone into the Samsung HDTV in the room becasue the battery was dying all over the place. I had to stand there tethered to a television just to use my phone. Wanted to talk? Go to the TV. Check your Twitter/Email? You know where to go...
Even on the car charger, the phone would barely charge. I was basically < 50% charge 90% of the time I was there, and even had to turn my phone off for like 3-4 hours when I was getting stuff done to make sure it didn't die on me.
That is something I had never experienced using my Windows Mobile (6.5) devices or Aria, and the HD7 doesn't do this. The Blackberry Bold I tried out for a couple weeks could go 2-3 days with extremely heavy usage on one charge, and charged fast as ****... Even on a Car Charger while being used.
The GPS in the Vibrant was constantly putting me on the wrong road, or on the service road when I was on the other side of the Interstate. At intersections, the GPS would bug out and it would take it upwards of 1-2 minutes to straighten itself out.
Back to the battery. I think the cell radio is killing it. When the phone is on WiFi, it can work about 18-24 hours before it you have to turn it off, because it's not using the cell radio for anything. So, I think a lot of people who say their battery is so good are probably on WiFi most of the time, and likely don't make that many phone calls.
As far as updates are concerned, KA6 was a hail mary and I think Samsung would like to not have this phone even be mentioned in headlines, since those same articles will just remind potential buyers of their other phones just how terrible their Android support/updating actually is. They want to move on. They even bothered to miff up the Software on their WP7 devices. If Samsung touches any software, they will make sure they find a way to miff it up.
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One quick remark on what you said regarding Cell drainage vs. Wifi, that's just not true. At least in my case it isn't.
Today for example I took my phone off the charger about 8 a.m and by the time I walked out of uni 8 hours later I had 78% left. All this while making about a total of 70 minutes of calls not to mention a couple of texts.
Now when I reached home I turned on my wifi and started doing my net business, that got me to 15% in less than 4 hours. Without doing any calls/texts in the process.

What more could I want in a phone?
How about no interface or response lag? I'm running Bionix V 1.3.1 with Voodoo lagfix enable, and there's still some lag in the response.
I'd also like the GPS to work every time with accuracy at least matching my 2+ year old G1.

you guys are not thinking this through.....
i want my phone to have a vagina.

xtone said:
you guys are not thinking this through.....
i want my phone to have a vagina.
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This made me lol so a thanks hit...
Also 3g uses more battery than being on wifi to the person talking about wifi draining their ****....
I have excellent battery life...

xtone said:
you guys are not thinking this through.....
i want my phone to have a vagina.
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haha I wanted to say this but I might get flame. lol
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Worst Device Ive Ever Owned (Returned)

This is my opinion. I'm a long time Android user.
I purchased this device with the excitement of it being a mixture of my 2 favorite interfaces.
The phone itself is nice looking. The screen is curved leaving it difficult to install a screen protector.
The back is extremely 'grippy' but feels loose towards the middle.
The software is buggy and i think they should have definately spent more time with it. Had a couple of random reboots and freezes within the 1st day.
The phone was randomly getting hot to touch, even after i stopped running background app's, and when it was doing this the battery life would drop quick, very quick.....
The phone does get warm fast, no matter what other people tell you. Simply browsing chrome or facebook i could feel the heat within 3-4 minutes.
The battery life i experienced was abysmal! After 5 charging cycles it didnt get any better, i averaged just on 3.5 hrs screen on time, for a 3400mah battery thats pretty bad. Especially for a so called business device thats even worse.
The sound through the bottom speaker grill was average.
The only thing i thought was realy good was the actual phone calls, sound was loud and clear.
The price of this phone is absolutely ridiculous!!! Its not worth what there asking.
The phone is a big let down for me. I was shocked.
If you want true blackberry, save your money and get a Passport.
My opinions.

I am planning to get the silver passport...
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Just about everyone reported good battery life with this thing. Ya sure you weren't running a lot of junk apps in the background?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not buying it. The keyboard is trash. But still.

Did you update anything? For some reason the Blackberry apps don't say they need updates, you have to visit their store page and update there. Also, unlinking and relinking your email account in the hub may help with your heat issues. There's also the chance you just got a lemon.

I updated all my apps i made sure i had nothing running in the background. Im pretty good with Android. No my way round somewhat.
If you get one just make sure you have the ability to return it easily enough.
I returned mine to the store and got a LG G4 instead which is an unbelievably good phone.

You can try out these steps to make sure you have the latest Blackberry apps on your Priv: http://crackberry.com/get-latest-app-updates-your-blackberry-priv-automatically

I have 0 battery issues. yes it gets warm, but that's probably as much as my oneplus 2. I'm easily getting 5 - 6hrs SOT over 18 hrs.

So far i am liking this device. I have an s6 edge, passport original (sold now), passport silver, which is the only device i have ever went back to after getting rid of. Now a Priv. So after getting it all set up with gmail, hub, twitter, facebook, corporate email, and some other random apps and charged up to 100% i went to bed with it unplugged. Woke up 7 hours later battery was at 96. Not bad for overnight. The productivity edge compared to the people edge on the s6 is a grand slam, its almost like having google now launcher after all primed up. Double tap to wake is flawless so far. I must say i am impressed. being able to hotkey all the keyboard keys just like my passport is great. I have not seen a single glitch yet. This device, for launchday software on a new platform for Blackberry is quite polished. I am not a blackberry loyalist by any means, but the subtle customizations and natively being able to set the flashing LED colour to different alerts is all baked in. I think im going to sell my Edge.

markdexter said:
I updated all my apps i made sure i had nothing running in the background. Im pretty good with Android. No my way round somewhat.
If you get one just make sure you have the ability to return it easily enough.
I returned mine to the store and got a LG G4 instead which is an unbelievably good phone.
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The G4 is a great phone. I want to try the Priv but can't justify dropping my G4 for it!

Can someone please tell me if it is possible to remove battery percentage from status bar??? Please.....
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Battery is awesome!! No complains!

Totally disagree with OP. My experience is very different. Great business device with good replication of the best of BB10.

Aside from the heating thing, everything else seems to be your device only. You might have gotten a faulty device.
I've been using the Priv for a week now, neither a single random reboot nor a freeze happened. The phone is fluid, and no lags. It does get warm quite quickly, but not to the extent you're describing here ("hot to touch"). It gets as warm as other devices, but quicker.
I wouldn't go as far as returning the device only for these issues, I'd get it replaced instead. But then again, that's just me, and I have been excited about it since its rumours and renders. If you weren't excited about it, or just looking for a "new device" to test, I'd understand why you were eager to return it.

I also wasn't pleased with the battery life. I own a moto x play, has a 3,600 mah battery, I average 6.5- 7 hrs screen on time, the priv have me about 3hrs with a similar size battery??!!

Mine is back in the box ready to be returned also same issue. So hot almost too hot to touch. Constant fc on chrome and hanging battery life absolute ****e and worst of all how the sharp corner sticks into your hand on obe handed use. ..so disappointed as I was waiting since release day..total pants if you ask me

Heat issues may be dependent upon your network as I found in the UK that on EE very little warming but a bit more warming on Vodafone.

Yeah mine was on voda

I'm actually pretty happy with the priv - mine only gets slightly warm under load, doesn't randomly reboot or crash, the screen doesn't click, the front and rear cameras both work flawlessly...
however, I'm on the verge of returning it due to the physical keyboard. People complain that it's cramped and small, but I have no issue with that either. My main issue is that it drops keys randomly and can't keep up with the typing - it happens most frequently when typing double letters ("google" -> "gogle", or "good"->"god"), but it also randomly drops keys elsewhere too. I'm pretty sure it's not me as I intentionally type very deliberately to see, and I hear/feel the key click down - but nothing registers on the screen.
For a company that built its reputation on having the best in class keyboard... this is pretty disappointing.

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Heat issues may be dependent upon your network as I found in the UK that on EE very little warming but a bit more warming on Vodafone.
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If this is the case what a major flaw, if your on a certain network you could potentially Cook an egg on the back of your priv with the heat!!

Give it a couple of full drain/charge cycles and you'll be fine. Software is a bit buggy yes. But since this such an important phone for BB, you can be assured constant software updates will make this into a monster.
Give it a real chance before you dismiss it.
Here's my SOT after 1 week of use. Here with 34% left. This will get you up to 6 hours SOT.
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I had a Droid Turbo for 1.5 years that got great battery life. I am a power user, and averaged between 4 and 4.5 hrs of SOT in a 16 hour day.
For no good reason, I decided it was time to get a new phone, and I chose the S7e SD 820 model based on the reviews. While the phone is pretty, there were two dealbreakers for me. First, the Edge screen is too sensitive given the way I hold a phone, even when using a case. I'd constantly open apps on the left side of the screen by accident. Or worse, make weird typos in emails. The second, and bigger issue, is mentioned ad nauseum on this forum - the US version has major Android System battery drain that has not been addressed. I spent hours and hours trying to get in touch with someone who could help me at Samsung. I was promised callbacks, fixes, etc.. But when there was no follow through and I'd call back, they acted like nobody had ever reported the problem before. I then tried tweeting Samsung support, and they responded... By telling me that their customer service dept on Twitter has absolutely no way to contact someone who can solve the android system issue. Finally, after calling several times, I got in touch w a US based tier 2 tech support agent, who also told me the issue had never been reported. He had an S7 on hand, picked it up, and noted that there was definitely a problem. He put in a ticket but said it wouldn't be addressed until enough people complained to trip their system. Given the challenges of dealing w Samsung, and my big priority of having a long lasting battery, I finally gave up hope and returned my s7e to Verizon. This is the first time in 20 years of cell phones that I've ever made a return.
I wanted my Droid Turbo back, but unfortunately, I turned that in when I got the S7e. So, I decided to get a DT2. I'd call it a fine phone. Nothing special that differentiated it from the original for me. In fact, battery life for me averaged about 3.5-4 hrs SOT, less than the original. If I'm going to spend $700 on a new phone it has to be significantly better than my previous one in the category that's most important to me, which is battery life. I don't watch much video on my phone, but I definitely use apps intermittently throughout the day, including FB, Instagram, Bumble, TouchDown and Feedly. Since those don't need anything special in terms of graphics, my only goal was to get more device use time than the DT. Since that wasn't happening, I've now purchased a Nexus 6p.
From reading the forums, it sounds like Google is much more responsive to issues because this phone is running stock Android. While the processor is a generation dated from the S7e, I do appreciate that Google will update much faster than Samsung, who barely acknowledged a battery issue affecting 100% of US phones. I've now installed everything on my 6p, and am in the middle of testing it for "normal use" (meaning, how I use the phone, which may or may not reflect the norm). If this phone doesn't get better battery life than the DT, then I'm going to return it, call it a day, and purchase another DT on ebay.
I'm sure for many of you screen pixels, camera and processor speed matter, but I don't watch much video, find almost all cell phone cameras provide pixelated photos, particularly in low light, and I never had any issue opening FB or emails at warp speed on my Turbo. I can't justify getting equal or less battery life for a phone that costs $500 more than the original DT.
Anyway, I'll give an update once I've had a few days with my 6p, but feel free to post your experiences if you've had any of these devices.

You should be able to get at least 6 to 8 hours SOT with the SD820 Edge, just look at this threat and try it. Despite your bad experience so far this S7 should easily obliterate your DT and 6p. It's just a shame 800 bucks doesn't work great straight out of the box like most Exynos do and how it should be. But even Exynos isn't perfect, e.g. my standby drain is slowly creeping upwards from 2% per night on the first day till 4% now, 2 weeks later. Without ever changing a setting. Not complaining though This phone has potential like no other phone in market does at this point in time.

I'd strongly doubt that any phone could average 6+ hrs of SoT unless you're on wifi and using the screen continuously. But again, everyone uses their phones differently. For me, it was the terrible Samsung support that made me throw in the towel. I agree that the phone has potential, but potential is just that. If the people responsible for updating the phone don't pay attention to their customers than the phone will never improve beyond its potential.

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If the people responsible for updating the phone don't pay attention to their customers than the phone will never improve beyond its potential.
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Touche