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I'm just sayin' I could use a heaping helping of froyo
i can smell it now
hopefully froyo drops soon with the gps fix. just picked up my vibrant yesterday and the gps is a little wonky, but it has been very accurate at times too. usually only locks onto 1 sat, with about 11 in view. don't really use it enough to worry about the fix, and i'm too busy playing with the rest of the phone.
seems like a keeper, but thankfully i bought the handset outright so i have 30 days to make my final decision. hopefully froyo drops sometime soon
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Let's hope not... Froyo is frozen yogurt.
^lol, i cant wait!
Is there any news on whether the Samsung update for 2.2 will include a performance fix for their use of RFS for their filesystems? I can't see the abandoning the technology, and I'm holding off on applying the ext[2-4] fix for myself until after the OTS update.
I know I could use some frozen yogurt in this texas heat, haha.
After being told September for so long I am growing anxious now that we are in September.
someone call tmo and ask!!!
Not really looking to update right away. Im preatty happy having Vibrant7 rom, 1.2 oced kernel and mobileap tethering.
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Not really looking to update right away. Im preatty happy having Vibrant7 rom, 1.2 oced kernel and mobileap tethering.
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I second that - 2.2 may restore everything back as before Lag Fix. Right now, I am happy at 3Mbps download speed, and Wireless Mobile AP feature with around 2Mbps download speed. Also, i don't count on expecting the upgrade from Tmobile, unless u got an HTC phone like Nexus One (my son got one, and constantly got OTA updates). Samsung and Tmobile are famous for false promise and tons of BS answers from CSR. Don't call and waste your time. In the mean time, do learn and bring your Vibrant up to speed so you can enjoy it.
I have Ryans lag fix and a bunch of deleted bloat ware apps. Once froyo comes out will all that be erased?
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I second that - 2.2 may restore everything back as before Lag Fix. Right now, I am happy at 3Mbps download speed, and Wireless Mobile AP feature with around 2Mbps download speed. Also, i don't count on expecting the upgrade from Tmobile, unless u got an HTC phone like Nexus One (my son got one, and constantly got OTA updates). Samsung and Tmobile are famous for false promise and tons of BS answers from CSR. Don't call and waste your time. In the mean time, do learn and bring your Vibrant up to speed so you can enjoy it.
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Wow, people are still stuck in the past? Behold != Vibrant.
Oh, Nexus One is a developer phone. OF COURSE, it's going to get the updates first and fast.
I just hope Froyo gets the ring to Mordor sometime this month...har har =D
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It's only 18 hours into the month (CST), give it some time people. Even if it were released today, right now, this exact second, it would still take some time to get rolled out OTA - you can't push a large update like that to ALL your subs at the same time. That's a great way to crash your network.
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Is there any news on whether the Samsung update for 2.2 will include a performance fix for their use of RFS for their filesystems? I can't see the abandoning the technology, and I'm holding off on applying the ext[2-4] fix for myself until after the OTS update.
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i have been wondering the exact same thing. I asked it several times here in this thread, but cannot get an answer... let me know if you hear anything. Here is where I have asked it 2 or 3 times without much response
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=769819&page=2
So I've got one of the many Vibrants with the flaky GPS, and none of the fixes out there seem to improve the problem. My local T-Mo store is understanding and quite willing to swap it with a new one since I'm still within the 14 day policy. The only catch is I want to put the phone as close to stock as possible before I do the trade so they can't say it was something I did to it. Right now I've rooted deodexed, and I've got clockwork ROM manager going. I've also deleted almost all the stock cruft and swapped the calendar / camera apps. Because I was so eager to make it "mine", I also failed to make any backups BUT my wife happens to have a totally stock SGS from which I can scavange from but I'd like to do it without having to root it or anything. Is this possible? If not would thread 739091 ("True Stock 2.1 firmware for vibrant"; sorry I can't post links since my account here is still new) get me there?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734475&highlight=stock is what you're looking for. Just flash this with Odin and you'll be fully unrooted.
Awesome, I really appreciate that. I'm not timid when it comes to making the phone my own (I was an early adopter of CyanogenMod for my old G1) but I just returned from a deployment and the whole 'scene' has changed a lot more than I expected lol.
Hehe. you might want to give the new T-Mobile Vibrant firmware that was leaked, it fixes the GPS problem (result may vary). Returning your SGS for a new one isn't going to fix your problem. It's not hardware related, its firmware.
An exchange won't fix your GPS issues anyway so you mine as well keep the one you have. Trust me, we try to swap them out customers all the time at my store.... It's a known issue and Samsung is SUPPOSED to be sending us an OTA soon
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Awesome, I really appreciate that. I'm not timid when it comes to making the phone my own (I was an early adopter of CyanogenMod for my old G1) but I just returned from a deployment and the whole 'scene' has changed a lot more than I expected lol.
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Just want to say thank you for serving.
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Returning your SGS for a new one isn't going to fix your problem. It's not hardware related, its firmware.
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An exchange won't fix your GPS issues anyway so you mine as well keep the one you have.
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Hmmm, quite a few people I'd talked with locally that have the vibrant said swapping worked for them. Is it possible that newer firmware has been released for phones with a newer "birth" date than mine? Then again who should I trust more, people who hardly utilize their phones, or the people who drool over the prospect of new mods and hacks? hehe. I guess I'll just call T-Mo back and let them know I wont be bothering with a swap after all.
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Hey, my pleasure. If nothing else, I have the Army to thank for bringing me out to Hawai'i and giving me the chance to meet my now wife hehe.
ALL out of the box Vibrant's have the same firmware. You need to update to the newest firmware version, it works really well. GPS is better than it is on my CLIQ.
I dunno, i've heard reports of GPS working perfect out of the box for some, and the new firmware doesn't seem to do much for my GPS,
10m accuracy at most unless I leave gps on for about an hour and maybe i'll get 6-7m accuracy, but driving, it SKIPS, (still at 10m) instead of gliding along like my G1 did.
So i'm considering perhaps swapping mine.
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I dunno, i've heard reports of GPS working perfect out of the box for some, and the new firmware doesn't seem to do much for my GPS,
10m accuracy at most unless I leave gps on for about an hour and maybe i'll get 6-7m accuracy, but driving, it SKIPS, (still at 10m) instead of gliding along like my G1 did.
So i'm considering perhaps swapping mine.
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10M of accuracy is not bad and if you want to get technical, GMaps interprets the data differently. What shows in GMaps as 10 meters will show up as 7 under GPS test. I've got my Vibrant here at 6 Meters under GPSTest and 10 under GMaps. Get a grip people.
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I wont speak for Qwerty, but in my case I was LUCKY to get 10m accuracy; usually the best I could get was 40m; usually after 5-10 minutes of 'searching' and when you're driving an unfamiliar city such as Washington DC Like I was this past week, 40m is far too inaccurate for navigation. Your 'get a grip' is completely tasteless and uncalled for in this thread.
That said, I took zephiK's advice and just flashed the new 2.1 (thread 780935), and I must say its a lot better. I can get a 10m fix indoors in less than 5 seconds from a cold start (EG without GMaps knowing where I am at all); before being indoors I would never get less than a 1000m 'fix'. As soon as I get mine fully tweaked, I'll be sure to flash my wifes phone as well since she's got the same issue.
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I wont speak for Qwerty, but in my case I was LUCKY to get 10m accuracy; usually the best I could get was 40m; usually after 5-10 minutes of 'searching' and when you're driving an unfamiliar city such as Washington DC Like I was this past week, 40m is far too inaccurate for navigation. Your 'get a grip' is completely tasteless and uncalled for in this thread.
That said, I took zephiK's advice and just flashed the new 2.1 (thread 780935), and I must say its a lot better. I can get a 10m fix indoors in less than 5 seconds from a cold start (EG without GMaps knowing where I am at all); before being indoors I would never get less than a 1000m 'fix'. As soon as I get mine fully tweaked, I'll be sure to flash my wifes phone as well since she's got the same issue.
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No thats what im saying about.. He does have the update on his Vibrant
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Anyways, Qwerty I just hope you get lucky with your swap and get a working gps and hardware recovery.I've been poking around and quite a few people are saying some of thenew vibrants have issues getting into recovery and down load mode
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Yeah, i'm still considering doing the swap, sometime this week, perhaps even today, got up this morning, and phone was off, (Charging Battery Symbol on the screen),
I'm not running any of the custom roms nor am i OCing. Just worried if I do the swap I may end up with even more problems. I don't know what it is with the Samsung phones, if perhaps a lot of the phones have hardware problems or what. I have only used the original stock rom, and the leaked samsung rom.
I don't mean to be picky with my phone, but I remember my 2 year old G1 getting easily 3m lock as soon as i open up the maps inside my room, and navigating with it, was extremely accurate as well. I also never had restart issues with the phone, till after dropping the thing really hard, and then even the restart thing went away.
Today, I'm lucky to get even 40m lock again, on that same leaked updated firmware. My gripe with the samsung vibrant is that there seems to be some sort of hardware problem with the phone and samsung is not saying a thing about it.
I'm telling you guys... don't bother with a swap... I work in a very high volume store and have seen almost every customer come back with GPS issues. We won't even swap them anymore for customers because TMO has listed it as a known issue, and Samsung has announced the firmware update soon... A swap WILL NOT fix the issue, but if you decide to swap it, don't go whining to us our TMO about how you "keep exchanging it and none of them work..." They know this, and YOU know it.
Haha I see so many people complaining about bricked vibrants, apps not working, .zip files not working right, market issues, bad battery life and screwy bugs...
Am i a lucky guy who just got one of the "few" working vibrants??
I got my vibrant on release day from a preorder at radioshack...
It was not hardware locked and came with the original firmware.
Im currently running bionix 1.9.1 with the kk oc/uv kernel, launcher pro plus and have 76 user apps installed and this rom still keeps up. 2g is kept on until i need to use 3g. (2g 12 hours, 3g on the rest)
I previously installed oclf on all roms but this rom you dont need one, even with the cpu running at 200 MHz and 1000 MHz.
I have a livewallpaper running, no led notifer on for my sms, beautiful widgets, weatherbug and youtube all on 2 hour update and my battery lasts from 7am off the charger until 10 pm when im home with about 35% remaining with brightness on the lowest setting.
My gps works on spot , unfortunately not in my basement where my room is located. Wifi and bluetooth also work perfect.
Ive softbricked once when flashing a cappy .zip and just got into recovery and performed a nandroid
So whats up how many of you guys have a awesome, powerful vibrant like me?
I guess I am also one of the lucky ones
Mine always worked fine. Not hardware locked. GPS always worked too. The only problems I've had with it have been inflicted by the user (i.e. ME)
I think most Vibrants sold are working properly. I think the representation of folks who come to this forum in search of ways to "fix" their phones is disproportionate.
your not alone
I have had no problem with my phone I have flashed it with 3 different roms and it has been awesome. The only thing I have noticed is the gps does not tell me when I have a satellite lock but is is always accurate to 10-15 meters
My Vibrant is working like how I wanted it, the only issue is definitely GPS. Although, spotty, it at least work at the moment. I just wish it is more accurate so when my phone gets stolen, I have a fighting chance to get it back (via one of the many great anti-thief programs).
mine runs great
I guess you can consider me a lucky one as well.
I got mine on a release day back in July, and aside GPS issues at the beginning I had no complaints. Running Fusion Bionix ROM, and couldn't be happier.
I will def skip the Foryo OTA even if it comes before a working Froyo ROM is available from the brilliant devs on here.
At my work there are 5 of use with Vibrants and they all run fine. Honestly people who have issues are typically going to be more vocal than people who have no issues. So it seems like there are rampant issues with the Vibrant when in fact its only a minority of people having issues.
i ordered mine the day it came out (couldn't preorder cause on an employee account). gps wasn't that great, but worked most the time. rooted it and got rid of bloatware, still just unreliability of gps. started changing things like startup/shutdown animations, ji2 gps, and stuff, no problems. started flashing roms and am on bionix 1.9.1 oc, no problems.
My box date is 7/11/2010. Mine has been rock solid and not hardware locked. Love this phone. Fast, sexy, and unbrickable. The only problems I've had were caused by my own shenanigans.
Running a custom ROM should exclude you from voting. If you have to re-engineer a device to get what you paid for, you aren't getting what you paid for....
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Mine had the hardware lock and GPS issues, but both are fixed now. I've been lucky in that everything else I've thrown at it works fine. Overclocking is fine, voodoo is fine. The thing is smooth as butter and battery life is pretty damn good now.
Remember people happy with their phones don't usually post.
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I don't know what the hell happened to my phone after the update. I don't even know what to say
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I don't know what the hell happened to my phone after the update. I don't even know what to say
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Then don't say anything?
I like being a smartass.
Most people won't post to say hey my vibrant is working great! Rather they would post when they encounter a problem and need help quick. I haven't had any problems that I couldn't easily fix by myself l.
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My vibrant worked great, untill the last update. Now I get lag sometimes real bad.
I was real happy. Now I'm looking for roms.
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Running a custom ROM should exclude you from voting. If you have to re-engineer a device to get what you paid for, you aren't getting what you paid for....
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No i don't think so , ive had android phones in the past and since the vibrant was gonna be a large seller for tmobile i expected a large development community like we are seeing and expected roms. So i bought the phone intentionally to mod it but thanks!
Also since most people on XDA have rooted their phone, you can expect they will have more problems than the average consumer. It's one of the downsides of modding. I don't think stock phones have been soft bricking only modded ones.
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Running a custom ROM should exclude you from voting. If you have to re-engineer a device to get what you paid for, you aren't getting what you paid for....
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Really? I paid a premium for a device I could customize to my liking (cough-cough iPhone anyone???), well if it weren't for the dev section here I would've been very upset with the outcome.
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Also since most people on XDA have rooted their phone, you can expect they will have more problems than the average consumer. It's one of the downsides of modding. I don't think stock phones have been soft bricking only modded ones.
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Read the numerous posts here about JI6 OTA update from the users that just received their phone, some of them were sad pandas when they had to stare at the Vibrant screen after they click update button.
If you read enough, and comfortable enough to mod your phone soft bricking it should the least of your concern
Just to air my frustrations about the I9000. I have had this handset since it was released and its time to get rid.
I have been very patient with firmware updates and such....and it packs some brilliant hardware in theory but it just does not cut the mustard. I had the I8000 (Omnia 2) prior to this phone and it was exactly the same (except windows OS) because every time samsung brought out a new firmware it was still littered with bugs.
I know people Root their Handsets (I have done all the hacks and speedmods,etc) and rave about the speeds customisation,etc but i still get FCs and apps resetting themselves to default every so often with or without modding.
For example today i had no music showing in my music player but thought oh well....wait......wait. It appeared 10 minutes later. Recorded a video...or so i thought but nothing was saved. The Ringtones i have set are gone and i have to go through everything from scratch. This happens randomly maybe a few times a month. There is always something wrong somewhere and then i have to boot the I9000 down.....Everything is then fine for a while but always raises its ugly head at some point........WTF.
Now i hate to say it but i find myself drawn more and more to the iphone but feel like cutting my hands off or committing suicide for thinking these thoughts...they are blasphemous. I cannot help it though because i have grown to dislike the galaxy s and do not know any other handset that reviews say are better. Maybe its just the Android OS being generic and having to cater for a million different models of handset but surely then this is samsungs fault for not incorporating universal fixes.
If you read this and are deciding to get the galaxy s i would advise not to..... wait for something better now.
Well I have to say that JPY is a very decent firmware. I didn't have any major issue with it, it's fast (without any kind of lag fix) and it's stable . I rooted my SGS and got rid off Samsung's bloatware and I really like the phone now.
There's only two things that bother me, but it has nothing to do with software: I hate speaker position (international version) and also lack of flash/light.
So maybe you should buy a W7 or Symbian phone.
I don't know what to say to you, except you're doing something wrong if you're getting so many FC.
About the ringtones: I've experienced this problem when I deleted thumbnails from gallery (DCIM/thumbnails), at least I think it was because of that. Rebooted the phone and didn't delete the folder since then and never got the issue again.
So I would still recommend this phone, but it still depends on the person who gets it and for how much money.
Peace out.
dude ur phone has a virus. mine had one too exactly the same symptoms as your phone. did a reflash of 2.2 + factory reset phone is working like a charm now.
Im with the original OP. Way too many issues to deal with - I love what the device has to offer - but if I have to worry everytime go I to turn it on if it will work - its not worth it.
If I could have my SGS with the dependability and build quality of an HTC - that would be perfect (I use HTC as an example because all of the ones I have owned have been solid devices).
Yeah thanks opica.....should mention that only really get FCs with some apps that are obviously on the market but not meant for or tested properly on this handset...... overall i should clarify i dont get that many at all. Its mostly just the other things i have experienced such as recording a video and then the handset telling me that the MP4 file is unsupported, i reboot it still does not work so i record another video...this is also an mp4 file and plays. Its just **** like that constantly. I am on JPY but even that firmware gets confused every so often. Like i said i have had 2 samsung phones now both were flagship models at the time but both have fallen short because something this hyped should be the dogs bollocks. But they are not. Whoever says otherwise is kidding themselves IMO.
guys I totally sympathise because I have the voda 16GB SGS and it is fu**ing awful SW im not kidding Eg bbc news app takes about 3 mins to load plus it feezes up all the time to the point where it is unusable. I am unable to answer calls as it just shows the answer call screen but the screen is frozen and this is on the official 2.2 updated from sammy after a reset AHHHHH
However after speaking to and getting no where with samsung i decided i had a phone thats unusable and samsung are not doing a thing so my options were sell it and get an IP4 followed by shotgun insertion to mouth or just bite the bullet and flash a custom rom
WOW I installed darkys v8.0 and its is like a whole new phone that bbc news app now loads instantly no freezing no lagging no issues at all so far. Well besides battery life since I cant put the thing down now. Even WiFi connects in a second now. So amazing work by Darky and team.
Im not promoting this rom go choose our own but im just telling you guys i was in the same boat and now i love the SGS if your out of options and you love the hardware get a new rom.
Someone once said "buy a phone for its hardware capabilities then customize the SW to your specifications, then you will have your perfect phone"
Flash a custom FW? As someone else said, Darky's is a fine one to try.
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Someone once said "buy a phone for its hardware capabilities then customize the SW to your specifications, then you will have your perfect phone"
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Exactly... There is loads of custom ROMs posted here on xda.
I had a feeling that the software will be pretty ****ty at the beginning, but I kinda hoped that some decent custom rom will come out, if samsung wasn't able to build one.
My first choice would be nitr0's Insanity, but when JPY came out, it was good enough for me.
Again, I have NO problems now when I sorted everything out, it's merely playing with the looks of the desktop
Give Darky's V8.0 a try
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another galaxy s user who has had problems and think the iphone is the answer, i however sympathise with you if its not working properly
if its that bad i will take it of your hands for £50
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No.
Previously had an iphone 4/3gs, HTC desire - And i have to say, a Galaxy S + xda (speedmod, darkys 2.2.1 rom etc) is currently, hands down, the best mobile phone on the planet.
£51
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thebazman said:
another galaxy s user who has had problems and think the iphone is the answer, i however sympathise with you if its not working properly
if its that bad i will take it of your hands for £50
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LOL yeah i dont think iphone is the answer just never heard that many problems with them albeit the left hand reception problem. BTW Mazuma Mobile offer 159 GBP for the handset so thanks but no thanks.
I'll give you £51.
doc jpy 7.1, jpx, k12i.
Not quick enough, £52!
doc jpy 7.1, jpx, k12i.
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Previously had an iphone 4/3gs, HTC desire - And i have to say, a Galaxy S + xda (speedmod, darkys 2.2.1 rom etc) is currently, hands down, the best mobile phone on the planet.
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I will try this again. I had Darkys version 6 and encountered bugs but i will persevere....I willl try 8 & hope it solves my problems
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im not going to £52 cause its not worth it
All joking aside mate, get docs jpy, go and bake ye own rom in his kitchen, choose wipe version, back up ye apps and flash via cwm - kiss your problems goodbye.
doc jpy 7.1, jpx, k12i.
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LOL yeah i dont think iphone is the answer just never heard that many problems with them albeit the left hand reception problem. BTW Mazuma Mobile offer 159 GBP for the handset so thanks but no thanks.
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no probs m8 its just most threads moaning about the galaxy s say if they dont find the answer they threaten to go for the iphone
the iphone has more problems than the reception issue im not going to go into them all but the recent one was the alarm fooked up after the new year
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no probs m8 its just most threads moaning about the galaxy s say if they dont find the answer they threaten to go for the iphone
the iphone has more problems than the reception issue im not going to go into them all but the recent one was the alarm fooked up after the new year
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Just got pissed off really cos i recorded my daughter singing and the phone didnt recognise what it had just recorded...that has happened a few times. I will try another custom rom although i have tried quite a few to see if it rectifies anything. Thanks for cheering me up a bit anyway.
Im so sick of DK28 and all of its issues. I just went back to DI18 Epic Experience. So much more smoother. No lag. No cant hear when calling glitch. No gallery problems. No force closes. No random reboots. NOTHING!! Just a nice smooth phone that I can use and that is reliable!!!!!! Im done with the whole leaked version thing. I wont flash my phone again until the official froyo comes out for the Epic. Good night DK28!!
I did. Well I was an idiot and bricked my phone and was lucky enough to get it replaced without the $100 deposit (thank you Dustin). I planned on rooting and flashing asap until I literally was about to connect the usb cable into my pc. For now I am staying stock. I may Z4 it to get rid of some stock apps but I am taking a break from the ROM/Modem flashing and theming stuff. My new Epic is running WAY better now then my old one was on DK28. I mainly wanted flash 10 but once I got it I never used it. I thought it would be great for watching HULU in between class or when I take the bus to work but my battery life was only 4hrs and I never could fix it no matter what recommendation I tried. Now my battery lasts all day again. We will see what I do in another week or 2 though lol.
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Im so sick of DK28 and all of its issues. I just went back to DI18 Epic Experience. So much more smoother. No lag. No cant hear when calling glitch. No gallery problems. No force closes. No random reboots. NOTHING!! Just a nice smooth phone that I can use and that is reliable!!!!!! Im done with the whole leaked version thing. I wont flash my phone again until the official froyo comes out for the Epic. Good night DK28!!
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Did you try the "Truly Epic Rom" I was on the same boat as you, and was about to switch till I gave that ROM try....Its rocks!!! and its silky smooth!!
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I did. Well I was an idiot and bricked my phone and was lucky enough to get it replaced without the $100 deposit (thank you Dustin). I planned on rooting and flashing asap until I literally was about to connect the usb cable into my pc. For now I am staying stock. I may Z4 it to get rid of some stock apps but I am taking a break from the ROM/Modem flashing and theming stuff. My new Epic is running WAY better now then my old one was on DK28. I mainly wanted flash 10 but once I got it I never used it. I thought it would be great for watching HULU in between class or when I take the bus to work but my battery life was only 4hrs and I never could fix it no matter what recommendation I tried. Now my battery lasts all day again. We will see what I do in another week or 2 though lol.
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Yeah I hear ya!! Hopefully they will come out with the official froyo so I can actually have a decent phone with froyo that actually works without all the head aches.
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Im so sick of DK28 and all of its issues. I just went back to DI18 Epic Experience. So much more smoother. No lag. No cant hear when calling glitch. No gallery problems. No force closes. No random reboots. NOTHING!! Just a nice smooth phone that I can use and that is reliable!!!!!! Im done with the whole leaked version thing. I wont flash my phone again until the official froyo comes out for the Epic. Good night DK28!!
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From what I've experienced, there really aren't any issues with DK28 that aren't already in 18. Every Rom I've tried recently (Quantum, Bonsai, Midnight) has been silky smooth and I haven't gotten any FCs, calling glitches or anything you've experienced.
I just think its odd that people blame all their problems on the build. Its understandable if everyone is having the same issues as you, but when you're the odd one out, doesn't that mean you're the one thats the problem?
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From what I've experienced, there really aren't any issues with DK28 that aren't already in 18. Every Rom I've tried recently (Quantum, Bonsai, Midnight) has been silky smooth and I haven't gotten any FCs, calling glitches or anything you've experienced.
I just think its odd that people blame all their problems on the build. Its understandable if everyone is having the same issues as you, but when you're the odd one out, doesn't that mean you're the one thats the problem?
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Well when Im looking through the threads and Im reading the titles that people post who are experiencing the same issues as I am and many others on this site, then I would assume its the build and not just one particular person. Not to mention its a leak.....Its not even an official release so for you to sit here and claim that it is more STABLE than the STOCK BUILD or anywhere close, you sound like a fan/groupie of DK28 rather than a person who is speaking from knowledge. There are more people on this thread than me who have been experiencing more than a few issues with the "leaked" froyo. When dialing out and sometimes the call not going through or you can talk but cant hear is a KNOWN ISSUE with the "BUILD" that even the devs are curious about. Never had an issue like that on the stock BUILD. Anyways like I said F DK28.
For me, Quantum 2.1 is more stable than the stock ever was. It's not fanboy speak, it's that we know what we're doing and it's pretty obvious that Froyo is much faster. Maybe Froyo doesn't work as well on older revisions of the Epic hardware, I know I got mine in December rather than when it was first released. But for me, it is much better than the crappy stock rom which is bloated with Sprint garbage.
Do we all care about if someone flashes back. It seems like posts like this keep clutterng up the forums. It makes it really difficult to search. Who cares u went back to stock. Mod please delete thread.
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So what your telling me is that the pre-release version of a ROM is more buggy and less stable then a final product. Got ya.
MedicStuder said:
Do we all care about if someone flashes back. It seems like posts like this keep clutterng up the forums. It makes it really difficult to search. Who cares u went back to stock. Mod please delete thread.
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Get off his case. He's sharing his experience on DK28 vs DI18 in case some DI18 users were still on the fence as to whether or not they want to jump to a buggy 2.2.1 build. There's a lot of hate going around these forums and it's the response like what you just gave thats give people a poor outlook of our community.
Personally I've experienced both sides of the argument. I went with DK28 first and killed my gps, flashed back to DI18 and went with ACS for 3 weeks. Got sick of 2.1 and really wanted some 2.2 features back so I went with midNIGHT and a 2.3 theme.
Thanks for your thoughts OP, I share the same concerns but found some of the buggy issues of DK28 to outweigh the bugs and lack of features of DI18. I actually think its funny though because a buggy DK28 makes me want a real stable froyo build even more than being on eclair made me want a 2.2 update lol
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Get off his case. He's sharing his experience on DK28 vs DI18 in case some DI18 users were still on the fence as to whether or not they want to jump to a buggy 2.2.1 build. There's a lot of hate going around these forums and it's the response like what you just gave thats give people a poor outlook of our community.
Personally I've experienced both sides of the argument. I went with DK28 first and killed my gps, flashed back to DI18 and went with ACS for 3 weeks. Got sick of 2.1 and really wanted some 2.2 features back so I went with midNIGHT and a 2.3 theme.
Thanks for your thoughts OP, I share the same concerns but found some of the buggy issues of DK28 to outweigh the bugs and lack of features of DI18. I actually think its funny though because a buggy DK28 makes me want a real stable froyo build even more than being on eclair made me want a 2.2 update lol
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Exactly! I have been flashing my phone since I had my Touch Pro so I know all about leaks and the benefits they bring to a hardcore phone user like myself. I enjoyed DK28 for sometime now and it seems like the more people do to it the more some things stop working. I just got to the point where I was just tired of constantly updating the ROM with the newer version because the dev "FIXED" another DK28 issue. I appreciate all of their hard work. I even donated to a few of them because they made me love my Epic again with all these new EXT4 and no journaling mods. My phone has never been so fast and snappy......But at the end of the day when I need to use my phone I dont need it to do a random reboot or even worse miss a call because the other person cant hear me which is a very common problem some users are having. Although now that I am back on the DI18.......Its hard to find all those cool mods that I have been so used to. lol. Decisions decisions.
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Get off his case. He's sharing his experience on DK28 vs DI18 in case some DI18 users were still on the fence as to whether or not they want to jump to a buggy 2.2.1 build. There's a lot of hate going around these forums and it's the response like what you just gave thats give people a poor outlook of our community.
Personally I've experienced both sides of the argument. I went with DK28 first and killed my gps, flashed back to DI18 and went with ACS for 3 weeks. Got sick of 2.1 and really wanted some 2.2 features back so I went with midNIGHT and a 2.3 theme.
Thanks for your thoughts OP, I share the same concerns but found some of the buggy issues of DK28 to outweigh the bugs and lack of features of DI18. I actually think its funny though because a buggy DK28 makes me want a real stable froyo build even more than being on eclair made me want a 2.2 update lol
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If he wanted to share his experience then he should have searched for one of the other threads that has already been started about this topic instead of starting yet another one.
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youngpro83 said:
Well when Im looking through the threads and Im reading the titles that people post who are experiencing the same issues as I am and many others on this site, then I would assume its the build and not just one particular person. Not to mention its a leak.....Its not even an official release so for you to sit here and claim that it is more STABLE than the STOCK BUILD or anywhere close, you sound like a fan/groupie of DK28 rather than a person who is speaking from knowledge. There are more people on this thread than me who have been experiencing more than a few issues with the "leaked" froyo. When dialing out and sometimes the call not going through or you can talk but cant hear is a KNOWN ISSUE with the "BUILD" that even the devs are curious about. Never had an issue like that on the stock BUILD. Anyways like I said F DK28.
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Way to get defensive without backing your claims. There are also much more than a few people who aren't experiencing the same problems you are. I've never even heard of the dial out bug nor experienced it in any flash. If you don't want to work to get a good beta experience, why are you even on XDA and flashing in the first place? I find that DK28 isn't perfect, but its still leaps and bounds better than stock.
You have problems? Try to get them fixed, reflash or ask some questions on the Q&A. Don't just blame it on the build. Basic rule of thumb? If majority don't have the same problem you're having, double check what you've done or reflash.
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So what your telling me is that the pre-release version of a ROM is more buggy and less stable then a final product. Got ya.
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These are Samsung builds so I don't thinks there's really a difference between a alpha/beta/RC and a final build!
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These are Samsung builds so I don't thinks there's really a difference between a alpha/beta/RC and a final build!
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Riiiiiiiiiiiight
To use the OS "windows" as an analogy for you...
How do you think the bugs get found and fixed? When Vista (or any OS for this matter) was in Beta 1 / Beta 2 stage... guess what? It had MORE BUGS / glitches then the version that was released to the public. When it went to RC stage, it had less bugs then the beta. When it went to RTM (the version released to the public) it had less buts the beta and the rc.
Nothing will ever be 100% bug free, but to say you dont think there is a difference between alpha/beta/rc and final builds is very VERY naive of you.
P.S. if you were being sarcastic, my bad lol
Actually MS betas don't work that way, they release betas and continue to fix the bugs they are allowed to fix and run 100000 regression scripts and if any regressions are found they actually unfix the bug and attempt a different fix for it.
Eventually they end up releasing a few release candidates and end up picking the least buggy of these to promote to RTM.
I have a number of friends who work as SDE/Ts for MS, this is how it goes.
Also -- it's very possible that an updated code branch has more bug fixes than bugs introduced on smaller projects (like Android customizations) versus something huge like Windows.
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You have problems? Try to get them fixed, reflash or ask some questions on the Q&A. Don't just blame it on the build. Basic rule of thumb? If majority don't have the same problem you're having, double check what you've done or reflash.
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Seriously? Don't you think if the build was so perfect, Sprint would have released it by now?
Fact: There are bugs in DK28. Congrats that you aren't experiencing them.
I personally experience the calling out bug, but not the GPS bug. My accelerometer was jacked up for a while when I moved to DK28 until I found a good workaround (and no, the simple "recalibrate in the terminal method" didn't work). HOWEVER, the benefits to me are greater than the disadvantages of having these bugs in DK28.
This is a forum - the OP was sharing his experience. What kind of forum would it be if no one was able to share there personal experiences with the phone we all have?
Cut the guy some slack.
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Seriously? Don't you think if the build was so perfect, Sprint would have released it by now?
Fact: There are bugs in DK28. Congrats that you aren't experiencing them.
I personally experience the calling out bug, but not the GPS bug. My accelerometer was jacked up for a while when I moved to DK28 until I found a good workaround (and no, the simple "recalibrate in the terminal method" didn't work). HOWEVER, the benefits to me are greater than the disadvantages of having these bugs in DK28.
This is a forum - the OP was sharing his experience. What kind of forum would it be if no one was able to share there personal experiences with the phone we all have?
Cut the guy some slack.
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So... you had a bug and you looked around and found a way to fix it. Congrats. Thats exactly what my advice was.
I've had FC problems on prior Rom flashes before. I reflashed and took my time to fix it. My phone runs smoothly now. I could just Odin DI18 and blame it all on DK28, but like most people, I took the time to get it right. If it were an OTA upgrade, you could blame it on the build, but its a Rom, so take the time to get it running and like you said yourself, there are plenty of people to help with good workarounds.
I don't understand all the pandering and hand holding thats encouraged in these forums. You encourage whining and then complain when there is so much of it. How about encouraging these same people to go out and improve their phones instead of coddling them?
+1 Theres so many resources and answers theres no reason to not have a sweet running,personalized non buggy phone on dk28