Does anyone know if it's possible to adjust the delay before the capacitive buttons turn off?
The issue I'm having is while using the phone in the dark. The buttons light up and a couple seconds later they turn off. Finding the right button in the dark is a pain.
The only way to get the buttons to light up again is by touching the screen.
Thanks.
Came here looking for the same info. There is at least one thread in the captivate forum asking the same thing, so it looks like it's a problem for the whole galaxy line. It does not appear to be adjustable in the current firmware. I'm really hoping for a fix from Samsung or one of the homebrew developers soon.
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Hi,
I got my Orange SPV M3100 on Friday and already i've noticed what i think is a hardware fault. Not a big fault and i totally love the phone (Skype over wifi an encrypted connection works perfectly), but i'm worried as the phone is only a day old.
The first few times i opened the slide out keyboard I thought i noticed a nice blue keybourd backlight come on. I say thought as i can't find any reference to it in the manual. However whatever i now do, i can't get it to come back on. I've installed a few applications, but i doubt they would have caused it to stop working.
I don't suppose anyone else out there could tell me under what situations the backlight should come on (or if one exists), so that i can test it, and if it doesn't come on, i can phone up and get a replacement sent out. Its not a big problem and i can still use the phone, but you don't expect hardware to die after only a day.
Thanks in advance for any help you can give me.
Neil
there's a small hole in the top right of the keyboard. This is a light sensor. So, if light's on your keyboar led will be off, and if it's dark your keyboar led will be on.
you have to press a button too before it comes on iv found.
there is a setting for it as well somewhere to turn it on
Thanks for the advice guys, but the keyboard still doesn't light up if i open an application that asks for text to be entered and then slide out the keyboard in the dark and then press a key. Looks like my light sensor has died. I've just phoned Orange and they are sending me a replacement for between 6 and 10pm today (what fantastic service!).
Same issue over here
Hello I am experiencing the same problem over here.
It worked for the person who sold it to me and now it does not anymore.
Do you know if this is an HW or SW issue ?
Any other cases around?
TX
seems I have the same problem. i'm on orange and the light was working now it doesn't.
EDIT: no i dont have a problem. I went into a dark dark room and then typed something and it worked. if i cover over the "light sensor" with my finger and press a button, it doesnt work.
Indeed
Indeed I had a wrong interpretation of the function of the sensor:
The sensor works in the following way:
If it is dark AND there's a key pressed AND the setting in "Settings" is set to enable sensor THEN keyboard backlight is turned on if no light in evironment.
If the setting in "Settings" is set to enable sensor THEN keyboard backlight is turned on AS SOONS AS you press a key.
A little dumb from my point of view: if I slide the keyboard in the dark, is it to look at it in the obscurity? The simple sliding should turn it on by night.
luke.a.jones said:
you have to press a button too before it comes on iv found.
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I've noticed that the backlight on mine (Vario 2, it's a red backlight... urgh) doesn't come on all the time if it's dark or dusk-level, which is really annoying. Sometimes hitting the tab key brings it into life, but sometimes it just doesn't come on at all.
One of those 'temperamental', 'great idea in theory' designs methinks.
I also found out that if the turning screen backlight off on inactivity is disabled, then every time I slide out the keyboard, its backlight is turned on.
Hey all,
Does anyone know of any means to turn off the keyboard backlight, force it off no matter what the situation? As well, does anyone know of any hack or program one could use to force toggle the keyboard on and off?
Aside from this, does anyone have any pictures of the keyboard open? I specifically want to see how the leds are arranged in there. I want to remove the blue leds and replace them with a few white or red ones.. or, put a resistor in, so that the blue leds are EXTREMELY DIM compared to their brightness now.
It's annoying to me that the keyboard leds are so bright, that they actually outshine my main screen (which has the brightness turned down).
Any ideas, anyone?
Hi Brad,
Most of the pics available had no shot of the keyboard PCB removed... I am also looking for it. I wanted to shim the right side of the keyboard since that part is lower than the left side.
Is your keyboard keys also going a little sunk from left to right ? you need to feel/look for it hard, since it is just a matter of half millimeter.
No.. no issues with my keyboard, other than I can't even stand to look at it. I literally just can't look at it. I have to close my eyes when I type. I think I have some extreme blue-light sensitivity or something.
My Hermes is fairly new, though... but again, the keys all seem fine. I can't *see* the keys, but they feel fine.
I just refuse to stare at extremely bright and annoying painful to look at things. I mean, didn't these guys notice that the Hermes seemed to be all blurry, when the backlight was on? And really bright??
I have a new Sprint Mogul with the latest rom update. Every time that i slide to access the keyboard, there is a 1-2 second delay before the backlight illuminates. I unchecked the backlight sensor and no resolve. What happens is that the phone rotates the screen first and once that is completed, then the backlight turns on. This can be proven by pressing the screen rotate button on the htc home icon. If the phone is already in landscape mode, then the backlight has no delay. Is there a way that this can be modified to decrease the delay. Maybe have the light turn on first, then have the screen rotate to landscape?
now this would be nice...i feel like i switch to landscape and then wait to type anything. i looked around and couldnt find anything myself but hopefully someone can find something
Good question.....I'm interested too as that delay annoys the crap out of me, especially at night.
If you flip open your 6800 keyboard and take a look at the top of the keyboard between the Function LED and the right soft key you'll see a white circle. That's a light sensor. That's whats responsible for deciding if the keybpard backlight comes on or not. It takes one second to engage though. There may be some kind of registry edit but otherwise I don't know of anyway to adjust the delay.
-Adam
k3an said:
If you flip open your 6800 keyboard and take a look at the top of the keyboard between the Function LED and the right soft key you'll see a white circle. That's a light sensor. That's whats responsible for deciding if the keybpard backlight comes on or not. It takes one second to engage though. There may be some kind of registry edit but otherwise I don't know of anyway to adjust the delay.
-Adam
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I have that sensor turned off, because that makes the delay even longer sometimes.
the sensor doesn't work, it's well documented in these forums.
Does anyone find it annoying that the bootom back, home and search keys do not stay lit up?
I've been looking for a setting that would at least allow it to be dimmed but thats been a no go. I just find it hard to find the buttons with no visual cue nor any physical at that, It almost feels as if Im guessing the location.
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Does anyone find it annoying that the bootom back, home and search keys do not stay lit up?
I've been looking for a setting that would at least allow it to be dimmed but thats been a no go. I just find it hard to find the buttons with no visual cue nor any physical at that, It almost feels as if Im guessing the location.
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Mine don't stay lit up. But coming from a Samsung Fascinate which also has lighting time-out issues, I just sort of waved my hands at it...
They will light back up once you touch one, so you could just run your finger over the search key since that has the least chance of knocking you out of wherever you are...
I never have problems finding the buttons at night. I actually like that they turn off. Makes the phone look cleaner if your using it in the dark.
KonAitor said:
I never have problems finding the buttons at night. I actually like that they turn off. Makes the phone look cleaner if your using it in the dark.
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Agree, I've not had an issue finding them when not lit either. Doesn't bother me at all.
The keys lot staying lit is a Samsung thing. They do the same on the Galaxy S phones like the Epic, Captivate. It was annoying on those phones and yes it is annoying on this phone as well. Yes I agree they should be lit all on the time.
-McMex
They are spaced far enough apart so being lit isn't that big of deal for me but I wouldn't mind seeing them lit.
I like that they aren't lit all the time.
I'm not sure if I'm describing this correctly in the title so let me try and elaborate -
I've used probably 10-15 different ROMs for my Nexus 10 and lately every single one I try, I have the same issue when I have the screen titled down horizontally towards me while reading in bed ( think holding it up while lying on my back, angled down at me so I can read ), where the screen blacks out/goes to sleep.
Then I have to tilt it back so it's vertical again and sometimes it puts me at the lock screen but more often I have to hit the power button to get the lock screen back, infuriatingly I then sometimes get stuck in a loop of hitting power to get to lock screen as it's going back to lock screen so then it kills the display again so then I have to hit power again etc etc. Once the screen is back and displaying everything is fine until some random amount of time ( between 5 seconds & 5 minutes ) when the screen just goes black again - presumably when I move/adjust my position or the angle of the screen.
Anyway - I believe this is version independent, I don't think it's the ROMs, it's like it's something built-in to the OS.
The only thing I can figure is it's either related to the accelerometer detecting that I'm tilting the tablet horizontally so the screen is facing down and thus it is killing the display, OR it's the light sensor detecting a darkening of the light since I would be angling the screen away from a direct light source and so it kills the screen thinking I'm placing it face down on a table.
Possibly related - I've also noticed since 4.2.2 ( maybe coincidence ) that I can't rotate my screen 180 degrees and be able to unlock the device. No matter what, if I flip that sucker around it instantly kills the display and locks the screen. I've got auto-rotate on, so I know that's not the issue, and if I hit the power button to get the lock screen up, then unlock it INSTANTLY locks again and kills the screen. It's like there's a setting now that says I CAN rotate if I want to but there's no point because I can't actually unlock the screen to do anything. Keep in mind this ONLY happens when flipping it 180 - if it do it 90 or 270 and have it vertical there is no issue, it is literally only when it is flipped 180 that this occurs.
Am I over thinking this or is there something really, really obvious I'm missing? I've gone over every setting I can think of and the only thing remotely screen related is the sleep timer but it doesn't matter how long I make it or if I even turn it off entirely - every time I get into bed to read I have to mash the power button to get the screen going again. It's minor in the grand scheme of things but it is incredibly frustrating when all I want to do is read before going to sleep, just stay open damn it !
I hate to shameless bump this but does anyone know what I'm talking about? If I tilt my N10 past a certain degree ( I want to say it's around 30 degrees or so ) the screen just goes to sleep, how do I stop this? I've used a ton of different ROMs so it seems to be something consistent and/or a fundamental "feature" of JellyBean and/or Android in general.
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I hate to shameless bump this but does anyone know what I'm talking about? If I tilt my N10 past a certain degree ( I want to say it's around 30 degrees or so ) the screen just goes to sleep, how do I stop this? I've used a ton of different ROMs so it seems to be something consistent and/or a fundamental "feature" of JellyBean and/or Android in general.
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If nothing else, I would say it rather "seems" to be a hardware issue, because I've never seen this behavior on my own device. That said, I can't say I've heard of many people talking about this either.
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If nothing else, I would say it rather "seems" to be a hardware issue, because I've never seen this behavior on my own device. That said, I can't say I've heard of many people talking about this either.
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Thanks for replying! Good point - I've just assumed it wasn't something specific to MY N10 because I can't imagine why it would happen from a hardware perspective since it's never been damaged ( dropped, scuffed ) in any way. Unless I just got a bad egg with a faulty accelerometer or light sensor or something, which is also possible.
I suppose if no one else is experiencing this and it's isolated to me and is ROM independent than it must be hardware. Either that or when I'm laying in bed I generate large bursts of electromagnetic activity that cause it to think I've closed the "smart" cover. :cyclops:
Screen Timeout
I don't know if any of this matters, but I am just curious.
What is your Screen Timeout setting? Have you tried increasing this? Do you have it set to lock screen upon pressing the power button? Have you tried changing it? Do you use a pattern lock, pin code, other?
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I don't know if any of this matters, but I am just curious.
What is your Screen Timeout setting? Have you tried increasing this? Do you have it set to lock screen upon pressing the power button? Have you tried changing it? Do you use a pattern lock, pin code, other?
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My screen timeout is set to 10 minutes, though it doesn't seem to matter what I set it to - I just set it to 30 and the same thing happens after a second of tilting it.
I have screen lock via slide, but while I do lock/kill the screen via pressing the power button I just realized I've never actually set it to do this. I guess I thought it was a built-in feature - I've just gone through all the settings I have ( currently using FlamingMonkey AOSP ROM for reference ) and I don't see any option anywhere to enable/disable this feature. :S
Maybe there is an issue with my power button and when I tilt the tablet it jiggles it enough that it "presses" down and locks?
Use ultimate rotation control from store and force the lockscreen to landscape at all times.
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My screen timeout is set to 10 minutes, though it doesn't seem to matter what I set it to - I just set it to 30 and the same thing ould be there for your ROM too. happens after a second of tilting it.
I have screen lock via slide, but while I do lock/kill the screen via pressing the power button I just realized I've never actually set it to do this. I guess I thought it was a built-in feature - I've just gone through all the settings I have ( currently using FlamingMonkey AOSP ROM for reference ) and I don't see any option anywhere to enable/disable this feature. :S
Maybe there is an issue with my power button and when I tilt the tablet it jiggles it enough that it "presses" down and locks?
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I think that you are on the right track. The option to lock the screen on hitting the power button is under the Security settings for stock android. It should be there for your ROM too.
I constantly hit my power button when sitting it down or picking it up. That is why I disable the instant lock option.