Does anyone find it annoying that the bootom back, home and search keys do not stay lit up?
I've been looking for a setting that would at least allow it to be dimmed but thats been a no go. I just find it hard to find the buttons with no visual cue nor any physical at that, It almost feels as if Im guessing the location.
epidemike said:
Does anyone find it annoying that the bootom back, home and search keys do not stay lit up?
I've been looking for a setting that would at least allow it to be dimmed but thats been a no go. I just find it hard to find the buttons with no visual cue nor any physical at that, It almost feels as if Im guessing the location.
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Mine don't stay lit up. But coming from a Samsung Fascinate which also has lighting time-out issues, I just sort of waved my hands at it...
They will light back up once you touch one, so you could just run your finger over the search key since that has the least chance of knocking you out of wherever you are...
I never have problems finding the buttons at night. I actually like that they turn off. Makes the phone look cleaner if your using it in the dark.
KonAitor said:
I never have problems finding the buttons at night. I actually like that they turn off. Makes the phone look cleaner if your using it in the dark.
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Agree, I've not had an issue finding them when not lit either. Doesn't bother me at all.
The keys lot staying lit is a Samsung thing. They do the same on the Galaxy S phones like the Epic, Captivate. It was annoying on those phones and yes it is annoying on this phone as well. Yes I agree they should be lit all on the time.
-McMex
They are spaced far enough apart so being lit isn't that big of deal for me but I wouldn't mind seeing them lit.
I like that they aren't lit all the time.
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Hey all,
Does anyone know of any means to turn off the keyboard backlight, force it off no matter what the situation? As well, does anyone know of any hack or program one could use to force toggle the keyboard on and off?
Aside from this, does anyone have any pictures of the keyboard open? I specifically want to see how the leds are arranged in there. I want to remove the blue leds and replace them with a few white or red ones.. or, put a resistor in, so that the blue leds are EXTREMELY DIM compared to their brightness now.
It's annoying to me that the keyboard leds are so bright, that they actually outshine my main screen (which has the brightness turned down).
Any ideas, anyone?
Hi Brad,
Most of the pics available had no shot of the keyboard PCB removed... I am also looking for it. I wanted to shim the right side of the keyboard since that part is lower than the left side.
Is your keyboard keys also going a little sunk from left to right ? you need to feel/look for it hard, since it is just a matter of half millimeter.
No.. no issues with my keyboard, other than I can't even stand to look at it. I literally just can't look at it. I have to close my eyes when I type. I think I have some extreme blue-light sensitivity or something.
My Hermes is fairly new, though... but again, the keys all seem fine. I can't *see* the keys, but they feel fine.
I just refuse to stare at extremely bright and annoying painful to look at things. I mean, didn't these guys notice that the Hermes seemed to be all blurry, when the backlight was on? And really bright??
Got my Sprint Mogul a couple of days ago and having a tough time with the keyboard backlight not working.
I've done my searching and found that some people got their keyboard backlight to work by unchecking the option in Settings->Buttons->Backlight.
This didn't work for me.
Some people recommended just hitting a few keys and the backlight should work.
This didn't work for me either.
I'm looking at what just may be bad hardware and will have to replace the phone. That keyboard is damn hard to see in even the best low-light conditions. Forget about typing in the dark.
Does anyone know of methods that will force the keyboard to turn on so that I can test it?
unchecking the auto sensor option like you did should force it to come on whenever the keyboard is out, if it doesnt come on within a few seconds of sliding out id say get a replacement phone
I agree with defaultdotxbe...if unchecking the autosensor box isn't forcing it to be always on, I'd be worried.
I've left the autosensor activated, and my keyboard light works, but I must admit that it sometimes doesn't go on when I think it should. The sensor seems to be calibrated so that it has got to be pretty dark for the silly thing to decide to light up!
Having said that, someone on one of these forums came up with a pretty neat trick. If know I want to force the keyboard to be lit, I just slide it out about a quarter of an inch. The sensor is still hidden under the body of the phone at this point, and it thinks it's completely in the dark. The keyboard always lights up at that point. Once it's lit, then I slide the keyboard out the rest of the way. Brilliant, huh? You might wanna try that just to see if it makes any difference.
Good luck!
Thanks, peeps. I had the same problem with the keyboard light and was getting extremely frustrated. I tried the sensor trick (opening the keyboard 1/4) and, viola, it worked!
Walrus44
I also had the problem and after lots of searching I found out it was because I had the screen backlight turned all the way down. I moved it up to the first notch and now it works just fine even with the sensor.
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Thanks, peeps. I had the same problem with the keyboard light and was getting extremely frustrated. I tried the sensor trick (opening the keyboard 1/4) and, viola, it worked!
Walrus44
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This trick also fixes the orientation issues when turning on and it is in landscape rather than portrait.
Does anyone know if there is a way to disable the orange led by the earpiece and/or physical button lights on the bottom of the phone when charging? The lights keep my wife up at night...
Currently running fresh 2.0d by the way.
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Not to sound like a jackass, can't you just turn the phone over so the light is facing down?
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Not to sound like a jackass, can't you just turn the phone over so the light is facing down?
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Glass Desk? (Yes I have this problem if I sleep on one side of the bed lol).
It really would be nice to have a bit more control over the LED though.
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Not to sound like a jackass, can't you just turn the phone over so the light is facing down?
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yes, but that doesn't disable the lights, so its not an answer to the question, but possibly the only workaround if not possible. i don't have a "naked" phone so i'm also not sure if without a case the trackball wouldn't be in the way of facing it down
i'm interested in this too as i'd rather have my phone face up at night vs. down so that instaed of having to grab my phone to disable an alarm, i can just reach over and swipe it down or snooze...
R
I run a clock on the phone at night. I got desperate enough last night to carve "endcaps" out off styrofoam to cover the lights...not very elegant, but works for now I suppose.
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yes, but that doesn't disable the lights, so its not an answer to the question
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He said the lights keep his wife up, so I would think it is a solution since the light would be facing downwards and thus be much less visible.
I was going to look in to this since I already know how to control the leds via command line... but I would rather not re-invent the wheel.
Search the market for leds hack (put the s in leds or it won't find it. I believe it's also a protected app so make sure you're on a rom that shows it). Run it, select Nexus 1. Done.
The trackball led stays on at first but just hit the power button and it turns off. I know it says it only works for droid and nexus1 but I just tested it for you.
http://www.appbrain.com/app/net.geekherd.softbuttonshack
I have been using this for a while with bedside pro. the track ball does stay on. I have not been able to figure out how to turn it off.
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I have been using this for a while with bedside pro. the track ball does stay on. I have not been able to figure out how to turn it off.
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On my phone it turns off and stays off as soon as I put the phone to sleep. Well anyways I just spoke to the developer and let him know what's up with it and he's going to look in to disabling the trackball. I offered my assistance if he needs any help tracking it down on our phones.
Keep the phone right side up...put your wife upside down.
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Keep the phone right side up...put your wife upside down.
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LOL...that might work for a week or two more, but she's about 21 weeks pregnant, so not much longer
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LOL...that might work for a week or two more, but she's about 21 weeks pregnant, so not much longer
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I sent the dev of that app I was talking about exactly what he needs to disable our trackball. He said he should be able to get it done tonight. I'll let you guys know. I have 0 use for this app but I just figured his was so close that I'd help the last little bit.
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Not to sound like a jackass, can't you just turn the phone over so the light is facing down?
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I put my phone on a dock, and it serves as my alarm clock. I like to be able to see what time it is, so turning phone down is not an option. Right now I slide the top of an old phone holster over the top inch or 2 of the phone just to block the LED.
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I was going to look in to this since I already know how to control the leds via command line... but I would rather not re-invent the wheel.
Search the market for leds hack (put the s in leds or it won't find it. I believe it's also a protected app so make sure you're on a rom that shows it). Run it, select Nexus 1. Done.
The trackball led stays on at first but just hit the power button and it turns off. I know it says it only works for droid and nexus1 but I just tested it for you.
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Works so far! Thanks for pointing that out to me...I had looked for led related apps, but never thought to seach for "leds" Thanks!
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I put my phone on a dock, and it serves as my alarm clock. I like to be able to see what time it is, so turning phone down is not an option. Right now I slide the top of an old phone holster over the top inch or 2 of the phone just to block the LED.
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Hmm...This app seems to be disabling my trackball as is...
EDIT: But i'm not using a dock, just a power cable...
Wow, I have to say I envy you guys who get to sleep in such dark rooms.
For the past 20 years of so I've been so close to bright street lights that even with heavy curtains something as dim as the LEDs on a phone isn't even noticable (much less be enough of a bother to keep me awake...).
It's one of the things I absolutely love about camping, getting to sleep in actual darkness.
I know I'm not offering any solutions here, just saying that if you can even notice the LEDs on the phone at night, be thankful that you don't have much light pollution to deal with.
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Wow, I have to say I envy you guys who get to sleep in such dark rooms.
For the past 20 years of so I've been so close to bright street lights that even with heavy curtains something as dim as the LEDs on a phone isn't even noticable (much less be enough of a bother to keep me awake...).
It's one of the things I absolutely love about camping, getting to sleep in actual darkness.
I know I'm not offering any solutions here, just saying that if you can even notice the LEDs on the phone at night, be thankful that you don't have much light pollution to deal with.
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Haha, I have electrical tape over all my LED's on computers etc in my room. I have two sets of blinds, and my area is just dark to begin with.
Darkness > *
The phone I just turn upside down though so it's never been an issue.
Luckily for me my wife hasn't said anything about my Hero keeping her up. But then again, I don't charge it while I sleep. My old phone had an LED all the way across the top of the phone and blinked every 15 seconds. I had to turn that one upside down or cover it with clothes.
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Hmm...This app seems to be disabling my trackball as is...
EDIT: But i'm not using a dock, just a power cable...
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I take it back, when plugged into my computer and set to "charge only" there are no lights, but when plugged into the AC adapter, the trackball still lights up...in case anyone was wondering
I just read yet another review of the Epic where one of the reasons they talked sh!t about the EPIC was because of the bottom buttons don't stay lit the entire time the screen is on. This is a SUPER easy fix.... should anyone want to change this, it will take 10 seconds tops:
Goto settings > sound&display > keyboard timeout and change it to "Same as Screen timeout"
BAM! Problem solved. I almost wish Samsung had done this from the factory as the default. Oh well.
'tuna
thanks! wondering how to fix this !
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thanks! wondering how to fix this !
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Great! Glad someone could use the info...
Thanks so much, i would have never guessed that as setting for the hardware keyboard would effect the capacitive buttons!
Thanks
Thanks, added to my blog and tips for Epic page I'm just starting on..
http://www.bitshop.com/Tips/SamsungEpic4gbySprint/tabid/132/Default.aspx
Beautifully simple,
Steve
It's seriously stupid that they didn't put a non-lighting image on the front of these. They could have had the stenciled outline of the buttons there so they were visible even when not lit up.
Woot. Nice find spiicy. That just made the Epic a little more Epic
Oooo much appreciated
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Yeah thanks for sure! I also had no idea that these capactive touch buttons would be tied to the keyboard. I had my keyboard timeout set to like 3 seconds, because once I start typing I dont need to see anymore usually. That explains why those buttons wouldnt stay lit for long enough!
Cheers!
glad i found this thread! thanks again.
OMG I can't believe people didn't know this by now...
Forgive My Brevity. To Be Or Not To Be...
yeah i did this the first day i got my epic since i heard so many complaints about it before hand, lls, its funny how people can cry about it and not even look through the settings
Ok, just pointing out this isn't strictly true. Doing as the OP suggests keeps the buttons lit as long as a touch action keeps the screen alive, the button lights will still time-out before the screen for any other actions that keep the screen on. Like e-book readers, video player, games, extended typing in any app, timers, alarm clocks, etc (in cases where touching the screen isn't required).
What's odd is that the buttons aren't tied to either the screen or the keyboard. Since I'm used to where they are now I'd rather just have an option to keep those lights always off.
Battery Usage
Does anyone know how much battery usage the keyboard light consumes?
Someone should make a screen protector with the icons screened onto it.
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Someone should make a screen protector with the icons screened onto it.
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+1 internets for you. Quick, patent it too.
I totally agree on that screen protector idea, even though the second before you even posted some asian probably stole it and already has a patent for it somehow.
All in all though, IDK How much of a battery impact the hardware keyboard would use being on all the time, but to be honest, now that I've had the phone for a week+, I don't really need to know where they are, I already have it memorized. So I just said the hell with it and put my keyboard backlight back to 3 seconds again.
So there's a menu entry under the display menu for keypad lighting, but flipping the toggle seems to do nothing and there's no mention in the manual. So is this for non existent backlighting for the capacitive buttons at the bottom?
Been wondering the exact same thing since I got the phone last night!
Waiting on an answer for this lol.
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So there's a menu entry under the display menu for keypad lighting, but flipping the toggle seems to do nothing and there's no mention in the manual. So is this for non existent backlighting for the capacitive buttons at the bottom?
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Been wondering the exact same thing since I got the phone last night!
Waiting on an answer for this lol.
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Same here, got it yesterday and at night or dark places for some reason I thought it will automatically light up, but not...
Ok, that makes 4 of us, Lol.... I have NO IDEA what that is for either, and don't see anything different with it on or off?
It may be an unused option for this model but intended for use with the 6gb model that had true capacitive keys. The keys on this model were a last minute addition.
Is it possible to have it work with an update?
Seeing as how the capacitive keys were a last minute addition and the device lacks the hardware to light up, I doubt it.
That is, if that is what the option is even for.
They are painted on, do not light up, there are no lights underneath it to make it light up!
I guess if it is true that other models will be getting the backlit capacitive buttons, then that might make me wait to get another model (hopefully with similar band-support as the NA model) and then trying to unlock the bootloader to get some legit English-based ROM like CM on it.
One can dream, right?
... if not... then these little (but significant) corner cutting issues are going to kill this phone for me unfortunately
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So there's a menu entry under the display menu for keypad lighting, but flipping the toggle seems to do nothing and there's no mention in the manual. So is this for non existent backlighting for the capacitive buttons at the bottom?
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I don't see this option. Can you share a screenshot?
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I don't see this option. Can you share a screenshot?
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It went away after an update or two. Turns out it was some old code from the Chinese version which does have backlit buttons.
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It went away after an update or two. Turns out it was some old code from the Chinese version which does have backlit buttons.
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I'm amazed that they even removed them in the first place... If they weren't going to remove the bezel where the buttons were, why would they remove the buttons?
Just an alternative software buttons:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.appspot.app58us.backkey