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you guys are such geniuses here, maybe you can help me with this:
has anyone notice that on the TMOBILE WING, if you TURN OFF ALL RADIOS (phone, bluetooth, wifi) at night when you goto sleep (flight mode), battery at 100%, the next morning when you wake up the battery will be around 50-60%? ironically, if i leave my cellular radio on, the next morning the battery will be at 98% or 99% even 100%... does anyone know what is wrong? I've heard a few other users complain about this issue... this is a serious bug
call me paranoid but i rather have my phone off completely off at night, we get enough radiation from wifi, cellular, bluetooth daily already lol
THANKS
can someone please reply and let me know if their wing loses a big percentage of the battery overnight when cellular radio,wifi,bluetooth are all off?? if this is only my phone then i need to get tmobile to send me a replacement asap...
cnet review had the same issue when they reviewed this phone a few months ago and they said it was a bug that should have been fixed already by wing's release date.
fakereal said:
can someone please reply and let me know if their wing loses a big percentage of the battery overnight when cellular radio,wifi,bluetooth are all off?? if this is only my phone then i need to get tmobile to send me a replacement asap...
cnet review had the same issue when they reviewed this phone a few months ago and they said it was a bug that should have been fixed already by wing's release date.
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Most be something with just the wing. My Herald does not do this.
do you use spb mobile shell?????
i heard that with spb mobile shell the battarie goes empty within some hours.... also over night! maybe thats the problem
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do you use spb mobile shell?????
i heard that with spb mobile shell the battarie goes empty within some hours.... also over night! maybe thats the problem
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Mobile Shell doesn't seem to effect my Herald too much either.
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do you use spb mobile shell?????
i heard that with spb mobile shell the battarie goes empty within some hours.... also over night! maybe thats the problem
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no i dont use that, t-mobile is sending me a new unit, i will see if it still does that....
got my new unit from tmobile today, funny thing, the wing and battery now both says MADE IN TAIWAN. the original one i got from tmobile 2 weeks ago is made in china, so was the battery. hopefully this is the cause will have to leave it overnight with the cellular radio, bluetooth and wifi all off to see if the battery still disappears
...if you use any push mail service (exchange, windows live), but disable the radio, your device is trying to connect to the mail service on and on and on. so if you use any of that services, make sure you disable them too in your comm manager settings as soon as you switch the radio stack off...
cheers, lutz
lutzh said:
...if you use any push mail service (exchange, windows live), but disable the radio, your device is trying to connect to the mail service on and on and on. so if you use any of that services, make sure you disable them too in your comm manager settings as soon as you switch the radio stack off...
cheers, lutz
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you make an excellent point! but i don't use any of those, the email i do have, is pop3 and i've set it to check email manually, meaning only when i click send/receive. i'll know if it's a software or hardware issue once i try this new replacement overnight with all the same apps installed as the previous one.
Having the same issue with my Wing
I ran a test last night, turned all radios off (flight mode showed on home)
Battery was at 99%. In the morning it was down to 56%. My wing battery is made in Taiwan, and the phone is made in China.
Are you still having the same problem with your replacement Wing?
Thanks!
smalouf said:
I ran a test last night, turned all radios off (flight mode showed on home)
Battery was at 99%. In the morning it was down to 56%. My wing battery is made in Taiwan, and the phone is made in China.
Are you still having the same problem with your replacement Wing?
Thanks!
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Finally someone who has the same issue, now i know i'm not crazy! I just ran the test on my replacement wing, it still does the same thing!!! I woke up with only 54% battery remaining from 100%
1 thing i can eliminate is, this is definitely NOT caused by batterystatus plugin, it had this problem before i even installed that program.
my other none t-mobile included programs are:
skype
phatnotes
tcpmp player
thunderhawk browser
(none of those 4 programs are running in the background) and i went to sleep with a brand new soft-reset and made sure no programs were running in the background. i do however always have an alarm set to go off at 11am every day, but if this is what's draining the battery, then this phone is in some serious need for patching...
i'm seriously thinking this is a hardware issue or a system software bug, i think a lot of ppl don't notice cause they don't go into flight mode overnight since most of them don't care about cellular radiation lol i think 8-10hrs a night without cellphone radiation can only be a good thing, even if all the billion dollar profiting corporations that sells these things wants you to think it's safe
same thing happens to me, battery went from 100% to 50%ish overnight... this doesn't happen if you turn off all radios on your phone for only, say, 2 hours... weird thing... we need some experts of this forums to take a look at this issue, it's bugging me too
Huge battery drain on win phone of mode solved
OK, so not really solved, but figured out what the problem probably is, and a workaround. It's definitely a bug in the way the application is written.
I think the logic the way it is now is something like this:
If phone app is turned off
"Signal object" reports no signal available
Problem is, the "search for and find signal" object is not told to stop looking! And so, it tries to find a signal all the time the phone is off, draining the battery.
To test this, I switched the phone from Automatic network to Manual. This is under "Comm, Settings, Phone, Network". In Manual mode, the battery does not drain.
Of course, being in Manual mode has its disadvantages if you are traveling through roam areas where T-mo is not the carrier.
I uninstalled the t-mobile hotspot login utility and with all radios off, went to sleep (battery at 92%) for about 8 hours, now the battery shows 91%... don't know if that program is the culprit of all this, will test again tonight.
if this don't work, then i wouldnt mind switching my network to manual when going to sleep then switching it back to auto when i wake up
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OK, so not really solved, but figured out what the problem probably is, and a workaround. It's definitely a bug in the way the application is written.
I think the logic the way it is now is something like this:
If phone app is turned off
"Signal object" reports no signal available
Problem is, the "search for and find signal" object is not told to stop looking! And so, it tries to find a signal all the time the phone is off, draining the battery.
To test this, I switched the phone from Automatic network to Manual. This is under "Comm, Settings, Phone, Network". In Manual mode, the battery does not drain.
Of course, being in Manual mode has its disadvantages if you are traveling through roam areas where T-mo is not the carrier.
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have you actually TESTED this or are you just guessing? test your theory overnight and we'll see if this is the case, i don't think it is since this is a HTC phone and no other HTC phones have this issue, unless they somehow managed to mess up on this model :\
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Finally someone who has the same issue, now i know i'm not crazy!
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I can only agree with half of your statements. You are NOT the only one with this issue... but being crazy? You'll have to answer that one yourself.
Now then, the method of switching the network from Automatic to Manual sounds promising because if it's actively looking for networks, even though it has already located one, would continue to drain the battery. I will be the guinea pig for this one and report back in about 12 hours (with this problem, my battery won't even last that long lol). I'm also going to set my SMS/MMS settings back to manual as well.
If I uninstall the T-Mobile Hotspot login utility, how would I go about REINSTALLING it?
bah, i thought i had it, but i didnt, i uninstalled the tmobile hotspot utility and this morning i was greeted yet again with 50% battery remaining... i don't know what happen the other night when it didnt drain to 50% but i suspect that it was because i had turn it on once in the middle of the night when i went to the bathroom.
so someone help us please!!!
Switched all network modes to manual, left the house at 8:30pm with a 66% charge, got home at 11:30pm with a 32% charge... and I didn't even use the phone!
The odd thing? When I was charging my phone, it said 50%... but once I unplugged it from the charger, it shot up to 66%. Perhaps there's absolutely nothing wrong with the battery and it's just having problems measuring an accurate amount of juice in the battery?
Either way, 10% juice in 1 hour is absurd... this thing is supposed to have a 200 hour idle life and we're not even getting 1/10th of that!
*EDIT* Hmmmm! I just checked my network mode and it went BACK to automatic for some reason! Perhaps it goes back to automatic after a soft reset? Eh...
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Switched all network modes to manual, left the house at 8:30pm with a 66% charge, got home at 11:30pm with a 32% charge... and I didn't even use the phone!
The odd thing? When I was charging my phone, it said 50%... but once I unplugged it from the charger, it shot up to 66%. Perhaps there's absolutely nothing wrong with the battery and it's just having problems measuring an accurate amount of juice in the battery?
Either way, 10% juice in 1 hour is absurd... this thing is supposed to have a 200 hour idle life and we're not even getting 1/10th of that!
*EDIT* Hmmmm! I just checked my network mode and it went BACK to automatic for some reason! Perhaps it goes back to automatic after a soft reset? Eh...
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lol i find it weird that everyone leaves their phones on at night when they goto sleep with the cellular radio blasting out unneccssary radiation, this has gotta be the case since not many ppl noticed this MAJOR flaw with the tmobile wing...! if you were expecting important calls at night then i understand why the phone must be on, but besides this reason, i wonder why the others leaves the cell radio on
Personally, I always charge my phone overnight, because during a days usage I often run it down to 50% to 30%. Thats about 12 hours a day in my pocket, just a few inches away from one of my most important body parts. If you're worried about nighttime radiation, consider this: if you go overnight and only drain 2-3% of your battery, it shows that the unit is transmitting very little, with not a whole lot of that radiation you are worried about. If you are still worried, turn it completely off, it only takes a minute to turn on when you wake up. If you use it as a morning wake up alarm, or have other needs to have it on overnight, try pulling the sim card, see if that helps.
I left my nexus one, which I just got on Friday, next to the TV and it was fully charged. When I came back to it about 4 hours later it had turned its self off and wouldn't turn on until I connected the charger. The battery was at 0%, anyone seen anything similar?
I have now left the phone off, connected to an AC charger and will turn it back on only when it's fully charged!
Sounds like you got yourself a defective unit.
Charger it fully then let it completely die. After it dies charge it again fully see if that helps.
Charging via the USB cable does not seem to be very efficient/reliable. Using the AC charger is quite fast, and much more reliable.
Also check the apps that are running in the background, and turn off the ones you don't need. I discovered that the animated wallpaper was quite a drain... since I switched to a static wallpaper image, battery life has improved significantly.
It has the star field wall paper, but I didn't think that would run when the phone is locked and the screen was blanked. I'll leave it to fully charge, using an old nokia charger from a n85.
So the recommendation is to run it tomorrow until it dies then charge in the off state and only turn on when it's fully charged?
I have had a G1 for the last year.
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It has the star field wall paper, but I didn't think that would run when the phone is locked and the screen was blanked. I'll leave it to fully charge, using an old nokia charger from a n85.
So the recommendation is to run it tomorrow until it dies then charge in the off state and only turn on when it's fully charged?
I have had a G1 for the last year.
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Yes, and use the charger that came with the N1.
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I left my nexus one, which I just got on Friday, next to the TV and it was fully charged. When I came back to it about 4 hours later it had turned its self off and wouldn't turn on until I connected the charger. The battery was at 0%, anyone seen anything similar?
I have now left the phone off, connected to an AC charger and will turn it back on only when it's fully charged!
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I have the same problem. I got the phone approx. 1 week ago. before i go to work, I would have a fully charged phone. during lunch break break, ( about 4 hrs later from fully charged) its below half already! then 2 hrs later, its at to the point where it says connect your charger. Finally, off work, Phone is turned off and dead at 0% battery life. When im working, i dont even use the phone to browse or anything. just check the time on it and put it back on standby. I dont know whats wrong. Ive also rooted the phone btw with MoDaCo's rom. Any suggestions?
It was fulling charged again about 3 hours ago, not I've left it without wi-fi and with a static wallpaper and the battery is still full. I wonder if the wi-fi or the live wallpapers keep running even when the screen is off. I have checked and wi-fi is set to sleep when screen is off :-/
While modern batteries don't have the "memory" problems that cause them to lose life, they can suffer from miscalibration which will cause them to inaccurately report their remaining charge. If they report a very low charge to the phone (when this may not necessarily be true) the phone will probably turn itself off.
To recalibrate your battery, force it to drain completely. Even after the phone turns itself off, turn it on a few times more. I can't guarantee this is good for your phone, but it should get the last of the juice out. Then, when you let it charge, let it charge LONG after it reports being full, at least a few hours, to make sure it's completely full.
Sounds like something isn't quite right with your phone tbh. I have the star field wallpaper, wifi on and it's checking e-mails for 2 accounts every 15 mins.
I've also had some phone calls, been surfing the web, market and generally played around with it since I just got it on friday.
I checked the battery info on the phone now and it's been 15 hours since I charged it and it's now on 46% still. In my (limited) experience the battery seems to hold up pretty good on this phone.
That's the weird thing, it was fine Friday night and Saturday night and that was including quite a bit of playing with around
I received my phone last week. the battery was fine the first four days. after that the same problem stated above happened to me. the battery dies every 4 or 5 hours even in standby with no GPRS, WIFI or BT.
I did a complete wipe-out and the problem was gone.
I think that there were something that is draining the battery and gone with the wipeout.
by the way, i was using MCR and still using it.
thanks.
It has now been sitting for another 7 hours without wi-fi or starfield and the battery is still showing full. I'll now enable wi-fi and see how that goes. Then I'll try statfield later on. I'm wondering if the starfield keeps running even if the screen is blanked.
Actually it's showing 92% in the About page whereas the icon look full :-/
First day with nexus at work. Unplugged it from the main charge at 6:30 am at till 1:00 pm its was turned off. Made 3 short calls, no wifi, bluetooth, or gps and screen set to auto dim.
Only 6 1/2 hours is not long enough. I wish there was like a juice pack for nexus like the iphone. I could buy another battery but cannot be bothered carrying too many bits with me and opening it and changing.
Aslo charging through usb is very very slow.
my phone did this yesterday too, first time ever. I dunno why it drained so fast, something must have kept the screen on in my pocket or something.
Here's what I found.
I got my phone friday, took it off the charger and went to bed. When I woke it up was dead. What I do know is that since I'm with Roger's in Canada I don't get the 3G. I think it was searching for a 3G signal all night and that's what killed it. Try limiting it to 2G and see how the battery stands. I went a full two days without a charge, playing with it every chance I got and wifi turned on.
I'll try the 3g thing as the phone reception is poor in the room I left it. It is at 79% with the star fields wallpaper and wi-fi enabled (sleeps when screen off)
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It has the star field wall paper, but I didn't think that would run when the phone is locked and the screen was blanked. I'll leave it to fully charge, using an old nokia charger from a n85.
So the recommendation is to run it tomorrow until it dies then charge in the off state and only turn on when it's fully charged?
I have had a G1 for the last year.
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The star field wallpaper KILLS my battery even when the phone is idle with the screen off, just FYI... I switched to a default regular wallpaper and it has been fine since.
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Here's what I found.
I got my phone friday, took it off the charger and went to bed. When I woke it up was dead. What I do know is that since I'm with Roger's in Canada I don't get the 3G. I think it was searching for a 3G signal all night and that's what killed it. Try limiting it to 2G and see how the battery stands. I went a full two days without a charge, playing with it every chance I got and wifi turned on.
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thanks i will try 2g setting tomorrow.
There gotta be something wrong with your phones or some software that is draining it.
Like I said on the previous page I use:
WiFi on
Star Field live wallpaper, with the background image nontheless
Some GPS use
Several phone calls
Some texting
Browsing the web
Screen brightness at maximum
2 email accounts updating every 15 mins
My battery still lives through the day with ease and I'm usually at 40% when I go to bed at around 1 am. I would call HTC or do a thorough check at what software is running.
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Oh and I have 3G on with low reception (1 bar) where I live.
So to start out with here is what I posted yesterday from another thread...
"I got my HD2 last night. I used it for a bit right out of the box, went to bed and soon after I woke up in the morning it was dead.
My wife who also got her HD2 last night did basically the same thing. We both put our phones on the chargers. I was out doing yard work while mine was charging. My wife stayed inside and played with hers while it was on the charger. She unplugged it when it said it was done. When I came in from working I went to my phone and the light was green indicating a charged battery. I unplugged, turned on, it said 100% charged and started messing with it. Within minutes it said 4% battery life left and soon after it died. I then took it back in and plugged it back in. I turned it on this time to verify that it was charging. It stayed on the charger until it said it was 100% charged.
I have had it off the charger for 5 hours or so. I was using it a lot for the first hour or so, setting things up and getting it where I wanted it. I then left it alone and it has been sitting for the past 4 hrs. When I left it sitting it said it was at around 80% battery I believe. I just came back to it and it is again at 4% and telling me it is about to die. Then it did die.
I have gmail setup with activesync on default settings as well as direct push. I had done an end all with task manager just before I set it down. I do understand that the phone is active even when I am not using it but I would not expect this much battery drain.
I have the Stock Rom and the display auto dims on the default setting as well.
I love the phone but it seems like something is wrong with mine. Any suggestions?
BTW: My wifes HD2 is still running and has ~75% battery life left. She has been using it on and off for the entire day (10+ hrs) and wifi has been turned on the whole time too. This sounds more reasonable.
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I have been checking in on the phone periodically while it has been charging. It has been charging with the phone turned off. It seems to have taken ~1hr to charge 100%. The green light it on now. Is this a pretty standard amount of time for it to charge to 100%?"
So last night after I got my phone off of the charger I used it a good amount throughout the night. From 5:20PM until around 1:00AM it drained to around 60%. I thought that this was a good standard amount. I was using it in bed and before falling asleep to drain as much as I could because I wanted it dead in the morning. I just woke up and the phone was dead (so was my wifes). I went to plug them both in at the same time to compare charging times and and then I was going to compare battery life.
I plugged my wifes in and it started charging no problem. I then plugged mine in and it instantly started to boot up. It got to the boot screen and it started looping. It was stuck in a boot loop every time I plugged it into the charger. I swapped chargers with my wifes and it did the same ... but hers charged fine on the one mine was on. I ended up popping the battery out for a minute and then putting it back in. Put it back on the charger and it started to charge no problem.
I have experience with WinMo phones in the past and am used to/expecting some "quirkyness" but this seems like something is wrong. I am not sure however at this point if it is the battery or the phone. I am letting it charge now and planned on swapping the battery with the one in my wifes to see how it acts in a different phone. Any other suggestions? I love the phone but I want to know if there is a problem before the time for me to return it for another runs out. Thanks for any help.
It's the phone. The phone is having a considerable amount of issues. Some people are getting good, fine HD2s, other are getting bad seeds. Take it back, exchange for a new one.
Thank you for the input. I will add more to the story.
Both phones started charging at the same time. One (mine) was done charging in about 1.5 hrs. The second (my wifes) took closer to 2.5 hrs. I swapped the batteries and my phone turned on without problem, with my wifes battery in it. While hers seemed to have trouble getting going, I had to take the battery out and replace it before I could get it to boot. They are both up and running, with similar services running as well. I will continue to observe throughout the day to see how they drain in comparison to the other.
Is it possible that the phone is not charging the battery properly? If this is the case then my wifes phone would have worse battery life with my battery in it, but it would actually be my phone that would be the problem. I think that I am going to have to take both phones through at least one more charging cycle to see where the problem lies.
I am certainly leaning toward exchanging it for another though. What is the time limit for returning without question at T-Mobile US?
I have been watching both phones this morning. I have noticed that the signal strength on my phone bounces all over the place while sitting still on the table. My wifes phone sitting right next to it will generally hold a steady 2 bar 3G signal. This bouncing around of the signal strength and the searching for a signal is probably what is causing the battery drain. Just as I sit here and type this my phone has gone from a 1 bar EDGE signal to 3 bar 3G signal.
I have come to the conclusion that my phone is messed up and I will return it. I think that I have 14 days to make this return but I am not sure.
here are some battery saving tips that helped me, I hope the work for you without having to do a return
Turn wifi off when not in use, the 3g connection seems to use far less battery power. Also make sure establish data connection is turned off.
Turn off push and anything that auto downloads like weather and email.
Before locking the phone, open task manager and close pretty much anything open.
That should improve things greatly.
Thanks ... most of those I have done but it still continues to have the problem. I am not sure about the "establish data connection" though. I assume you are talking about the toggle in the wireless settings for "data connection". What exactly does this do? If it is switched off I assumed that it would not make a data connection at all. Does it instead keep a constant data connection when turned on?
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I am certainly leaning toward exchanging it for another though. What is the time limit for returning without question at T-Mobile US?
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14 days is exchange without question/problems.
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Thanks ... most of those I have done but it still continues to have the problem. I am not sure about the "establish data connection" though. I assume you are talking about the toggle in the wireless settings for "data connection". What exactly does this do? If it is switched off I assumed that it would not make a data connection at all. Does it instead keep a constant data connection when turned on?
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It's just a switch to change states whenever you want to manually...if 3G is activiated by some program, the switch moves to "on", and you can go in there and switch it to "off" if you want to kill the 3G while it's not needed. It will stay off until either 1) you use that same switch to turn it back on, or 2) some app/process (weather update, gmaps, etc) turn it back on. There are cabs available if you want to keep 3G switched off to the point where even apps can't switch it back on, and they're forced to use EDGE.
And yes, any time that switch is "on", you're maintaining a live data connection with the network, which is a battery drainer even if you're not actively passing data for an app.
Ok, guys look... I know there are lots of variables, but I get back from work, it's been 12 hours since my 100% charge, I'm at 26%. I get home, I charge my phone. It's back up to 100% in about 2 hours. I try some weather widgets on my phone, answer 3 emails quickly, I'm down to 83%. Something must be up, right?
I have notice this happen and its because the phone reads the battery is at 100 but you still need to let it charge longer for it to hold the charge. I suggest a full charge then kill it until it shuts off. Then let it charge while off until the LED turns green and maybe for a little time after that. Do that a few times and you should see some improvement.
Ok, well perhaps I'll have to try that then. Can the battery be reconditioned? Do these batteries have memory?
How long have you had the phone? Battery life should improve after having the phone for 5-10 days.
Like what joe333x stated.When I first got my phone I charged it up to 100% and turned it off until the led turned green for about 30mins. After that I get about 16hrs of battery life.
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I've had the phone since last Thursday night (not yesterday) and I know that two times, I unplugged when it was orange. Guess I should have left it.
The other thing possibly battery related is that right now for example, I have thhe little cycling arrows icon on my taskbar. I am 99% positive that I have nothing set up to be syncing for THIS long. It's been on all day. I unplugged at 7:45AM, it's now 11:21AM, I've done maybe 15 text messages, and the phone is at 77%. You can see how I might find this frustrating.
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I've had the phone since last Thursday night (not yesterday) and I know that two times, I unplugged when it was orange. Guess I should have left it.
The other thing possibly battery related is that right now for example, I have thhe little cycling arrows icon on my taskbar. I am 99% positive that I have nothing set up to be syncing for THIS long. It's been on all day. I unplugged at 7:45AM, it's now 11:21AM, I've done maybe 15 text messages, and the phone is at 77%. You can see how I might find this frustrating.
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i understand. i'm having the same problem. my battery died on me after 5hrs of usage, or complete setup, i should say. i just got off the phone w/ t-mo support in hopes of getting a replacement battery. no go. the operator said her phone dies in 2-3hrs, so i should be happy w/ 5. opted me to buy a spare battery for $50. i am very displeased.
you guys have something running in the background for sure ..go into your acocunts and sync the very least turn off the tmo garbage if not all of them except for google.. If you see my thread I've gone over36 hours on one charge
I've got all of them off, even weather cause I'm using Weatherbug.
But I do have background data on. But I don't wanna be completely disconnected to my data. What exactly does background data run?
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you guys have something running in the background for sure ..go into your acocunts and sync the very least turn off the tmo garbage if not all of them except for google.. If you see my thread I've gone over36 hours on one charge
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my 5hr kill is after doing a factory reset. only thing set to sync is google. no facebook or twitter accounts are linked. display is on the minimum. screen timeout is 15sec. no wifi, bluetooth, or gps. so i'm at a lost.
are you still experiencing that kind of life?
Same here. No wifi, no bluetooth, no Google, no GPS. All I have even remotely "automated" are my emails, my text message data, my freakin phone. That's it. It's gotta be the battery charging thing I think because there's nothing else draining my battery and yet the little sync circular arrows are still on my task bar.
Oh, and by the way... since my message at around 11:15 or so, I'm now down from 77 to 70 per cent. 7 percent in an hour without doing anything.
The things like tmobile and weather are set to sync automatically from the factory (meaning theyre set after a wipe) Have you guys gone into the settings and made sure you turned them off??
I have, yes. They have been off all week. 12 hours usually gets me down to about 26 per cent. That's a 6 day average, moderate use.
that doesnt sound too bad for 12 hours.. have you tried killing it a few times and fully recharging?
my thing is, i find it quite unpleasant that i'm having to disable all the basic or advertised functions of my phone just to have the same, if not, worse battery life? i find myself not even wanting to answer some calls because of the thought that one 5min conversation will dock my battery more than 5%.
It is incredibly ridiculous to have to be constantly concerned that if I do a search on the internet, that my phone may die earlier than I can afford. Additionally, I don't wanna be one of those annoying people running around all over the place with an AC adapter trying to plug my phone in every place I go to. Nor do I think I should have to keep a USB cable handy for when I'm at work. Plus, what's the deal with the batteries, do they or do they not have a memory that requires them to be fully charged and then fully discharged?
Hey guys,
I just joined because of this specific issue myself. My girl has the mytouch 3G and she could go for almost TWO DAYS without a charge. I leave my house at 7AM every morning, and return about 7PM. By the time I get home, I've maybe texted a few people, made one or two phone calls, and my battery is sub 30%. I've turned off wifi, bluetooth, and the display is just about as dark as it can go.
I just turned off the background data option, and had to manually go into all the accounts and make sure the sync was also not running. We'll see what happens.
Does anyone know if there is a 2.2 FW for this phone we can use yet? I've read up on user created FW (like cyanogen) because they cut out all the useless crap most of us will never use.
tinpanalley said:
I've had the phone since last Thursday night (not yesterday) and I know that two times, I unplugged when it was orange. Guess I should have left it.
The other thing possibly battery related is that right now for example, I have thhe little cycling arrows icon on my taskbar. I am 99% positive that I have nothing set up to be syncing for THIS long. It's been on all day. I unplugged at 7:45AM, it's now 11:21AM, I've done maybe 15 text messages, and the phone is at 77%. You can see how I might find this frustrating.
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I noticed this too. Its due to that fact that from default there are a bunch of things that sync now not just your gmail account. Go into settings and disable all the unneeded things and you wont see it as much.
poetik517 said:
my thing is, i find it quite unpleasant that i'm having to disable all the basic or advertised functions of my phone just to have the same, if not, worse battery life? i find myself not even wanting to answer some calls because of the thought that one 5min conversation will dock my battery more than 5%.
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I have had these issues before and it was almost always due to somthing in the background.
but letting the battery drain till it shuts down then charge 5+ hours then drain again, always going till it dies is the key, it will run a long time after it says it is done...
bhang
bhang said:
I have had these issues before and it was almost always due to somthing in the background.
but letting the battery drain till it shuts down then charge 5+ hours then drain again, always going till it dies is the key, it will run a long time after it says it is done...
bhang
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i'm continuing that "conditioning" now. it died yesterday after 5hrs fresh from a factory reset. i charged it for 8hrs. i will perform another day of drainage and overcharge today.
I turn my phone off last night with 50% battery left. This morning I turn the phone on and it tells me to charge the battery and then shuts off.
Here is where it gets weird; the exact same thing happened to my wife's phone except she had almost a full charge before turning it off.
What is going on?
I don't know I have gone 26 hours in mostly standby and I still have about 65-70 % of battery left. Check all your settings. I only have sync and back light to Auto turned on.
This is not normal and has never happened to me. Have you installed any apps from the market?
Little more info, please. Are your phones pre-OTA or have they been updated? Are they rooted? Did you just buy the phones? Have you trained the battery (fully charged then fully drained)? Have you done a factory reset?
Both phones are post update. Both were turned off by holding the power button then selecting "power off". Both have exactly the same apps that we had on our previous Androids (Vibrant and N1). Both bone stock. Have not factory reset, really don't want to go through the work of setup again.
I have never powered mine down completely overnight so I guess mine is not the same comparison. I might try it though just to see.
Ya they hold a great charge all day when on nut lost all their charge when powered off.
Is fastboot checked in settings or not?
esincho said:
Is fastboot checked in settings or not?
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Yes it is checked
Try unchecking it
esincho said:
Try unchecking it
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Is this a feature known to eat up battery? I mean if I left the phone on all night it would have still had a charge.
SugarMouth said:
Is this a feature known to eat up battery? I mean if I left the phone on all night it would have still had a charge.
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Idk, shooting in the dark here, never heard of a problem like what you have. Wouldn't hurt to try. I know the fastboot has something to do with the way the phone shuts down.
That battery behavior is just strange unless you have apps syncing frequently.
I unplugged last night at 1am, went to bed, and got up this morning at 8am, it went from down fully charged to 93%. I have autobrightness on, wifi on, gmail and exchange syncing, every other app that syncs I have it to sync at least every 6 hrs or once a day.
I've had this phone for 3 days now, and I'm consistently able to get 12-14 hrs of battery time, and that includes heavy internet use, radio, tv, etc.
Are you in an area where it's constantly trying to pull a signal? Maybe that's what's eating the battery?
Are you doing the steps to condition the battery? Charge until fully charged, turn it off and keep it charged another hour, then take it off charge and use it until it completely dies on its own, charge it back up again and then use as normal?
Yeah, but he saying he powered the phone down, not left it on and just idle. Now that's strange
nmw407 said:
That battery behavior is just strange unless you have apps syncing frequently.
I unplugged last night at 1am, went to bed, and got up this morning at 8am, it went from down fully charged to 93%. I have autobrightness on, wifi on, gmail and exchange syncing, every other app that syncs I have it to sync at least every 6 hrs or once a day.
I've had this phone for 3 days now, and I'm consistently able to get 12-14 hrs of battery time, and that includes heavy internet use, radio, tv, etc.
Are you in an area where it's constantly trying to pull a signal? Maybe that's what's eating the battery?
Are you doing the steps to condition the battery? Charge until fully charged, turn it off and keep it charged another hour, then take it off charge and use it until it completely dies on its own, charge it back up again and then use as normal?
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Yes but he is powering completely down not just in standby mode so nothing would be syncing. I will try this tonight and see if I have the same thing.
My wife had about 75% charge, I had about 50% charge. We both held the power button until the menu came up, we hit "power off". Both of our phones had dead batteries this morning.
I would download spare parts and see what apps are using ur battery
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itmustbejj said:
I would download spare parts and see what apps are using ur battery
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None of this would matter cause the phones are powered off.
If you have fastboot checked, the phone is not actually turning off. It goes into a quasi-sleep state and some low level processes may be running. That said, your problem may be related to the following thread:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=839935
the fix: enable USB debugging mode.
Another possibility, and this is someting that's happened to me in the past: the phones may be plugged into an outlet that loses power when you turn off the lights at night
Fast boot is similar to a Windows computer going into hibernation or standby mode.
Mine has been acting weird since Friday. I woke up and it totally discharged overnight... it was 100% charged when I went to bed. Yesterday it was laggy constantly and the battery has been draining at least twice as fast. Today phone locks up constantly.. apps are force closing.
... have rebooted, pulled the battery, etc... phone has gone from a dream to a nightmare in that respect.
Gonna double check my debug settings and see what happens.
EDIT: debug was turned off. I turned it on... will report back if there is a change.
UPDATE: Turning on USB debugging and a reboot seems to have fixed it. Battery drain `back to normal.