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Multitouch.....?

Some new rumors suggest multitouch is possible on the X10, and 2.1 is coming in September!
h ttp://blog.mobiles.co.uk/new-phones/sony-ericsson-xperia-x10-getting-multi-touch-and-android-2-1/
If this is true, this is great news.........

http://blog.gsmarena.com/sony-erics...i-touchless-forever-its-hardware-is-to-blame/
what about the opening two lines there?

Blowtoke said:
Some new rumors suggest multitouch is possible on the X10, and 2.1 is coming in September!
h ttp://blog.mobiles.co.uk/new-phones/sony-ericsson-xperia-x10-getting-multi-touch-and-android-2-1/
If this is true, this is great news.........
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Hope it's true!!

aDIsease said:
what about the opening two lines there?
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your news is older then his... its still up in the air

just wait. sony likes to say stuff thats incorrect
but i know that it will have multi because a screen like that wouldn't miss such a simple function.

I think I may be the only person in the world who doesn't even want multi touch. I actually find it a pain sometimes. Much prefer double tap. I honestly can not think of an app I would need that would require multi touch.

kud0s said:
I think I may be the only person in the world who doesn't even want multi touch. I actually find it a pain sometimes. Much prefer double tap. I honestly can not think of an app I would need that would require multi touch.
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i m wid you...
and it has been confirmed several times by sony representatives that it will NOT support multitouch..

if it has multitouch it would be nice, but it's not necessary, i like it both ways.
personaly i think it will be with 2.1 and that sony has it not tested yet with 2.1 running or at least the persons from sony that said it wont have MT because it cant work on android 1.6.
when it's rooted and running 2.1 we can see for ourself if it works or not

Multi touche
Im Sture that its has the hardware of multi touch, And i Think the reason why se sau it Will never happening is becouse they Are not shure if they can Get it to work in time. The reason why i belive this is because they first sau maybe And then no . Why should they promis somthing they cant keep?
So to make shure nobody say they suck they just say hw sint support it. They may also have problem geting the license for mt since appel own the patent for that if im not Wrong . My xperia comes in 2 data weeeeeeeeeeeee!

noblackthunder said:
Im Sture that its has the hardware of multi touch, And i Think the reason why se sau it Will never happening is becouse they Are not shure if they can Get it to work in time. The reason why i belive this is because they first sau maybe And then no . Why should they promis somthing they cant keep?
So to make shure nobody say they suck they just say hw sint support it. They may also have problem geting the license for mt since appel own the patent for that if im not Wrong . My xperia comes in 2 data weeeeeeeeeeeee!
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...excuse me?
Anyways...here's my take on the situation.
In any event; the contradicting statements could be because:
1.) No MT; rumours generate more buzz, people buy more phones
2.) YES MT; problems in implementation means that SE can choose to go either way.
3.) YES MT; rumours generate more buzz, people buy more phones.

Look at this video, for the end of the video. Google Maps, is realized today with the firmware 016
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKCBpzgKcuM&feature=player_embedded

zerophrame said:
...excuse me?
Anyways...here's my take on the situation.
In any event; the contradicting statements could be because:
1.) No MT; rumours generate more buzz, people buy more phones
2.) YES MT; problems in implementation means that SE can choose to go either way.
3.) YES MT; rumours generate more buzz, people buy more phones.
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The main problem with that assumption is with #1. No MT is bad press. Many people who were interested in the X10, and even willing to wait for it were severely put off by the announcement. I was following Twitter on the issue and there were hundreds of retweets of people baffled and pissed off by the announcement.
Now marketing people will say that any press is good press, but I have to disagree. If the bad press costs you potential customers, and lots of em, that's going to have a negative impact on sales.

After having used my X10 for. the past week. I can honestly say that I have got used to the lack of multitouch. For some things it would be useful but not having it is (for me! ) no big issue.
I am looking forward to the long touch zoom that SE have demonstrated on Youtube though...
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this look real enough, though I really want to think that It's fake,but still, can't find anything wrong with it. probably real. we will soon know know it once the phone is rooted.
Look at this video, for the end of the video. Google Maps, is realized today with the firmware 016
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKCBpzgKcuM&feature=player_embedded
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Well... I've FW 16 (follow the debranding tutorial to get it too).
And I can promise you: no MT...
He just zooms in one direction.
This can also be done by tap + hold.
He's just doing it very fluently...

zerophrame said:
3.) YES MT; rumours generate more buzz, people buy more phones.
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Don't know if people would buy more phones but they surely won't buy more sony ericsson. ;-)

Look at this video, for the end of the video. Google Maps, is realized today with the firmware 016
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKCBpzgKcuM&feature=player_embedded
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Haha. It works, try it yourself in Google maps. But it's got nothing to do with MT, the reason why it looks real is because it interprets the pinch as a tap.
It doesn't work if you try to zoom out.
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saltorio said:
The main problem with that assumption is with #1. No MT is bad press. Many people who were interested in the X10, and even willing to wait for it were severely put off by the announcement. I was following Twitter on the issue and there were hundreds of retweets of people baffled and pissed off by the announcement.
Now marketing people will say that any press is good press, but I have to disagree. If the bad press costs you potential customers, and lots of em, that's going to have a negative impact on sales.
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Hmm...i see your point, i wonder if you see mine?
If the X10 has no MT, and you tell everyone the truth, then the company is ultimately going to lose customers because of the fact that the product is missing a feature.
By declaring that there IS MT, the organization is being deceitful...but...
If the device was truly lacking MT...the people that wanted MT wouldn't have looked at the X10 in the first place. Meaning that if MT users weren't the target market, SE wouldn't have cared if users suddenly didn't want their phone. By falsely declaring that the X10 has MT, you get the consumer associated with the brand and they get a bit of brand loyalty.
Additionally; What you end up seeing is that all of a sudden (prior to launch in many markets) you get significantly more buzz on the phone. People are typically simple and will respond to simply hearing it mentioned.
Customers that are promised MT and find out a year later that it isn't coming will be angry, but ultimately people will still buy the phone. Also, by having the additional 'rumour' of there being MT, people will buy the phone hoping that it will come out.
Another example;
In Canada; Lord of the Rings - BluRay; currently the set only has the theatrical version on it...everyone expected there to be both the extended AND theatrical versions on the discs. Many people buy the set, are unhappy, and write seething reviews online. What is the result? People are still buying it...all that extra press actually works in favour of the suppliers/producers.

The point is, that this phone was targeted at eur 699 and a multi touch capable touchscreen would only cost just a few bucks more.
They must have been completely nuts, if they wanted to save them.
Almost all capacitive touch phones of 2009 can do it.

i have a good feeling that x10 supports MT, android 1.6 does not support MT, wait till it's rooted or when SE brings 2.1 update. Played a bit with google maps and pinch to zoom worked for me but not perfectly, the fact that 1.6 does not support multitouch could be the prob. We can say a thousand times that it will suport MT or that it won't support MT... the question can only be answered trying 2.1 android
i tried with my rhodium's stylus to use the screen, it won't work, just like my hd2 (and that one also has MT, also the x10 has an capacitive screen so a big change MT could work)

X10 DOES have Multitouch- Video proves it

It works with google maps, check it out
forums.se-nse.net/topic/49197-the-x10-saga-episode-vi-the-return-of-multi-touch

uncanny said:
It works with google maps, check it out
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No it doesn't.
Rather than repeat the truth, I'll simply point you to the comments on the link you provided.

Is a little bug of google maps.

i would think bug or not it does show that its capable. i have tried and it is glitchy but has worked, st least the zooming in part
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I read somewhere around here that it only works for zooming in and that is due to the screen missreading the pinch gesture as a doubble tap. I would have liked pinch function in this phone but i guess it's true, you can't have it all.. Other then that it still seems like a really great peice of machine (still wating to get mine, 1-2 weeks left :'(.. )

well its a bug.. sum times it zooms even with one finger..
also it cannot zoomout....
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hey fanboys
http://phandroid.com/2010/04/21/xperia-x10-with-multi-touch-support-maybe-video/
[UPDATE]: In response to the speculation as to whether or not the X10 will ever receive multi-touch, Eric de Kort of Sony Ericsson gave this succinct statement:
“Multi-touch will not be a feature in future updates for the Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 because the device does not support multi-touch due to her software and hardware configuration. The operation and user experience of the phone will be further improved and Sony Ericsson will come with her own intuitive way of, for example, zooming in and out.”
I guess that settles that once and for all.

Mod, please remove this thread, the video is a fake! I just did close examination of it. Their is no multi touch!

well video may not be fake.. i tried pinching on google maps and it did work.
but the fact is tht its not multi touch. neither the hardware nor 1.6 supports multitouch.. its a bug in maps tht recognised multitouch as double tap...
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There's nothing fake about that video, I can do the same with the application 'Rainy Days'.... But just because you can do something which looks like 'pinch and zoom' does not mean the phone has multi-touch, for one reason Android 1.6 does not support it, and the hardware screen of the X10 does not support it.... In regards to the video, why would you want to use two fingers when the appication allows you to do the same with one finger tip ?)
But it would be good if SE would not make us wait until September for their version of 'multitouch'....long hold zoom... which would suit me fine as I normally use my phone one-handed..

http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/16/sony-ericsson-x10-can-do-multitouch-after-all-will-get-android/
So what is all this about.
Bloke

bloke said:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/16/sony-ericsson-x10-can-do-multitouch-after-all-will-get-android/
So what is all this about.
Bloke
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This is a website listening to a third party reseller of the X10 and convienently ignoring the X10 product managers who actually designed and produced the thing.

cashaw said:
This is a website listening to a third party reseller of the X10 and convienently ignoring the X10 product managers who actually designed and produced the thing.
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I guess we will just have to wait till its rooted and somebody sticks 2.1 on it
Bloke

...no need 'cause it ain't got it....

it worked for me but seems like it just confusing it as a quick tap. As for all the confusion about multi-touch. The only way we'll find out is by rooting it which might takes some time. We shouldn't take official news seriously, they hardly know what they're talking about. An example is that the new iphone 4.0 os with multi-tasking has been proven to work on older models of ipod touch and iphone while Apple claims it would only be available for the iphone 3gs.
I also been reading a lot about Sony using Clearpad Technology but haven't found anyone with proof. I know that Sony was working on their own multi-touch technology. Makes more sense that they will use their own technology.
Everyone has their own agenda, the SE officials claiming no multi-touch might be trying to prevent a lawsuit from Apple. The sales department claiming it does obviously wants you to buy the phone. Lets just wait....you can show your proof but quit arguing.
Google "Sony goes Multi-touch too" and you'll see a link from ubergizmos, and you'll see the japanese press conference about the multi touch technology.

omgsigh said:
it worked for me but seems like it just confusing it as a quick tap. As for all the confusion about multi-touch. The only way we'll find out is by rooting it which might takes some time. We shouldn't take official news seriously, they hardly know what they're talking about.
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There is no confusion as the manufacturer has explained what the X10 will or will not do...
They are the ones who designed it and confirmed it doesn't have multitouch, so who is more qualified to report this ? Them or a mobile phone reseller who have a vested interested to sell the phones and Engadget who just report what others have said.... Or some bloke on Youtube pretending it does something it doesn't.
The X10 does not have multitouch ! After having had an X10 for a few weeks I am learning to live without it.
(BTW Sony and Sony Ericsson are not the same company)

I recently installed the HTC hero mod keyboard for my x10 and I don't even care about multi-touch no more. I suggest everyone to do the same, I'm typing way faster than I was on the iphone with less typos as well.
I'm not going to believe no one except when the root come. Manufacturer always claim what a product will do or not do. Examples include multitasking on older iphones, Video recording on older iphones, even Playstation 3 slim with no other os feature (The famous geohot believes it just a software switch).
The X10 might or might not have it. I think we should wait for proof from the consumers/hacker side before we make a statement.
Sony Ericsson is a joint company of Sony and Ericsson, Yes I know that but if you googled and read the article, you'll see that Sony had plans of implementing it into phones and not the mention that the technology was shown on an 3.5 inch display which were the standard were smartphones.

cashaw said:
This is a website listening to a third party reseller of the X10 and convienently ignoring the X10 product managers who actually designed and produced the thing.
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This is exactly it. They never should've published this unsubstantiated 3rd party rumor in the first place. SE had already stated the X10 was hardware MT incapable.

I'm curious... why are so many people so hung up on MT? Surely it isn't the pinnacle of "zooming in and out" technology?
Surely.. some creative whiz with a penchant for computer human interaction can beat it? I've seen a few "mono-touch" zooming options that work quite well.. dolphin browser long touch position sensitive "-"; "page"; "gesture; "+" system works a treat... if I had that for all zooming.. then I'd be very happy!

omgsigh said:
I recently installed the HTC hero mod keyboard for my x10 and I don't even care about multi-touch no more. I suggest everyone to do the same, I'm typing way faster than I was on the iphone with less typos as well.
I'm not going to believe no one except when the root come. Manufacturer always claim what a product will do or not do. Examples include multitasking on older iphones, Video recording on older iphones, even Playstation 3 slim with no other os feature (The famous geohot believes it just a software switch).
The X10 might or might not have it. I think we should wait for proof from the consumers/hacker side before we make a statement.
Sony Ericsson is a joint company of Sony and Ericsson, Yes I know that but if you googled and read the article, you'll see that Sony had plans of implementing it into phones and not the mention that the technology was shown on an 3.5 inch display which were the standard were smartphones.
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Or you could just get Swype and ditch tradition text input all together.
Personally, I do not care one bit about multitouch. Not a big fan of it anyhow. Yes I have used it on my magic, and also have been frustrated by it equally as much. Knowing it will never come does no sway my happiness about this phone one bit.

X10 Multitouch and Android Update to 2.1

Hi Folks,
i had a Sony Ericsson representative in our Store, and what he could say was that the Android Update ( in Germany ? ) comes on Q3 this year.
What he also said was that the Multitouch issue is not a hardware problem, it is more a patent problem and sony is waiting till things are cleared out.
So the display IS Multitouch capable, Andoid 2.1 could activate it, but sony could still lock the multitouch feature ( in their own ROM's of course ) if their staff thinks it is better than getting sued.
Kind regards
notimpyet

If it is true that the display supports MT, we will know it when it is possible to root out the X10, because we will be able to install him roms cooked with the activated multitouch.

You'll forgive us if we take this with a large helping of natrium chloride.

They have successfully rooted the x10, but i haven't seen any MT addon. Can someone point me in the right direction?

bavelb said:
They have successfully rooted the x10, but i haven't seen any MT addon. Can someone point me in the right direction?
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Sure, I will point you in the right direction: go to your favorite phone store, and buy an HTC Desire. Now you will have multitouch.

Informative Post !
Bravo.
Currently we have only "cracked" the ROM and not the Bootloader. Therefore we still cannot proof MT-Capabilities.
Best regards
MoS-tekknix

Cinner said:
Sure, I will point you in the right direction: go to your favorite phone store, and buy an HTC Desire. Now you will have multitouch.
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BRAVO ! I dont want to be rude but it is really interesting how people can be amazingly stupid and ask that multitouch question every day and when they see that SE has said that there will be NO MULTITOUCH EVER ON X10 !!!!!!!!!!!!! they still ask day after...

What i would like to see is an implementation of the really nice one-finger-zoom! They obviously developed it, now gief us ze goodies!
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So some SE representative knows better than SE product manager Rikard Skogberg, who in a thread in their product blog said: "There's no multitouch in X10 – and I also can confirm that it's not only related to [software] but also to [hardware]".
Cant we just stop with these threads about something thats just not there... It would have been gr8, but its not there, and will never be. So stop these posts about it.....

They even said that for the Mini but the Mini is hardware capable as was seen.

Ok i give up Go and get all excited, but dont blame SE, if it turns out it doesnt support it...

se_dude - Who's shown that the mini is h/w capable? I've not seen that?
Also regarding the MT questions on x10.. it's a bit like that film - Sixth Sense.. Except it's "I see stupid people".. they're everywhere.. we have get used to it!

im_iceman said:
se_dude - Who's shown that the mini is h/w capable? I've not seen that?
Also regarding the MT questions on x10.. it's a bit like that film - Sixth Sense.. Except it's "I see stupid people".. they're everywhere.. we have get used to it!
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But the stupid...it hurts.

im_iceman said:
se_dude - Who's shown that the mini is h/w capable? I've not seen that?
Also regarding the MT questions on x10.. it's a bit like that film - Sixth Sense.. Except it's "I see stupid people".. they're everywhere.. we have get used to it!
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the mini uses a synaptics cleartouch, so it is definitely mt capable

http://se-blog.com/exclusive-x10-mini-supports-multi-touch/

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http://se-blog.com/exclusive-x10-mini-supports-multi-touch/
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Straight from the horses mouth, it does not support multitouch. It's supports dualtouch which technically isn't multitouch.

Well, the HTC desire uses the same display sensor.

Hi Folks,
i had a Sony Ericsson representative in our Country, and what he could say was that the Android Update ( on Earth? ) comes on Q3 this year.
What he also said was that the phone can friggin' print money. It can produce and island and transform into an airplane and fly you there. And it can grant you 3 wishes which 1 of them can get you multitouch.
So the display IS Multitouch capable, but you'll have to wait for the wishing app to be activated.
Kind regards
notanotherwhineaboutnotmultitouch

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Well, the HTC desire uses the same display sensor.
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And that device doesn't fit the technical definition of multitouch either. The point is that SE is completely correct, from a technical standpoint, in stating that the X10 mini doesn't support multitouch.
Both the X10 and Desire support dualtouch which you can colloquially call multitouch but it's not multitouch according to the technical definition. So both SE and HTC are correct regarding their statement of multitouch suppport in their devices. HTC is correct from a layman's perspective whereas SE is correct from a technical point of view.
So people can bleet on all they want, SE is completely correct in stating that the X10 Mini does not support multitouch and no amount of angry mails and forumposts is going to change that.

I heard root activated the "Bad Touch", confirm/deny?
I've been single for a few months now, and I get lonely every now and then....

Q. about And. 2.2 install on the X10

Hey everyone
I have tried to search the forum about how to install the 2.2 on the X10. Or even the 2.1
So my question is, if there's someone who know the easy way or if it is at all possible?
I am also wondering if the Fryo update for the Nexus one can be used, and then what with the SE functions, will the camera still work and at what resolution.
Kindly
Simon
Denmark

its not fully rooted.. bootloader still to go.. then 2.1 or 2.2 will depend on the chefz who cook the custom rom.. correct me if im wrong!
not sure about the camera resolution and stuff but I'm sure having android 2.x wil give us hd recording and 16M screen..
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Thanks
Well thats just to bad right now
But i hope the people soon get it working. If i can install Android 2.2 on my x10 before Iphone 4 comes to Denmark. I will donate the money i've put aside to buy the iphone 4, and postpone the buy to the second shipment to Denmark...
Well i just gotta have the iPhone. I'm a Apple fan yes
Looking forward to installing Fryo, when its possible.
Kindly
Simon

You'll be an Apple fan until you realise you can't hold it the way you're used to or the screen goes yellow. Look up Iphone 4 issues online before you buy it
POS in my opinion, but I'm an Apple hater.

Well, i suggest for you to take of your Apple goggless off, and open your eyes... Im not saying that iPhone is crap, but by the issues the first ones are having, i rather wipe ass by the money then spend it on iphone...
So, i suggest for you to wait few more months that they fix the problems... But like you sayd, your apple fanboy, so you would buy red brick by 1000$, if they call i it iphone
http://www.riemurasia.net/jylppy/media.php?id=72293&c=11
EDIT: And no, Im not Apple hater, or fanboy... Just can't see point spending 500$ on mobilephone, that cant be used for calling...

Mobzter said:
its not fully rooted.. bootloader still to go.. then 2.1 or 2.2 will depend on the chefz who cook the custom rom.. correct me if im wrong!
not sure about the camera resolution and stuff but I'm sure having android 2.x wil give us hd recording and 16M screen..
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It IS fully rooted. 'Rooting' is when you gain linux 'root' permissions, and can do whatever you want with the system. It is even more so than with Windows, because you can't change the windows kernel, but you can with Linux, on which everything is run.
If you want a froyo rom, just wait. A method is probably being worked on jerpelea, Bin4ry, Maryland Cookie etc. In fact they are trying to get a custom kernel running which will allow us to do this. Just look at some of the threads on the X10 Android Development section.
I'm not as knowledgeable as the devs here, but I try to do some research so I can at least partly understand what is going on, and learn some things along the way.
Sorry about the rant...

Hi fellow X10 users ! first time question here on the forum. Is there anyone who has installed 2.2 on the x10?!

Are you kidding ? Can you read ? It is impossible to have Froyo on X10.
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It is unbelievable...people can write but can't read
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No offense, but do people not do even a little research about their phone before they buy it?

That is why he is sn apple fan. Wikipedia classify apple fan as
1. Idiots that doesn't reseach
2. People who want to get ibto the crowd by hlding up his iphone
3. Rich people who throw money down the sink
4. Brainless zombie
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ozd said:
No offense, but do people not do even a little research about their phone before they buy it?
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Annoyingly, most people don't...
That's why so many people still bought the iPhone 4, with it's signal problems. The problem is not terrible, but it shouldn't have happened - function should always be prioritised over form.

wrongfeifong said:
That is why he is sn apple fan. Wikipedia classify apple fan as
1. Idiots that doesn't reseach
2. People who want to get ibto the crowd by hlding up his iphone
3. Rich people who throw money down the sink
4. Brainless zombie
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You know what's twenty times worse than an Apple fan?
An Anti-Apple fan.
Seriously, who gives a crap what others like. Doesn't make them "brainless zombies" or "idiots that don't research." People tend to buy things that they want. Don't try to justify yourself by putting others down, it makes you look far worse.

iead1 said:
You know what's twenty times worse than an Apple fan?
An Anti-Apple fan.
Seriously, who gives a crap what others like. Doesn't make them "brainless zombies" or "idiots that don't research." People tend to buy things that they want. Don't try to justify yourself by putting others down, it makes you look far worse.
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no it doesnt. hes right

we are going waaaaaay off topic....again.
it is strange how we end up always talking about that ****ty Iphone
We are talking about the Iphone more than the X10, on a X10 forum.
Hhmm strange...

What annoys me the most is not whether you are an Iphone fan or not, but not researching and asking questions that are obviously, not answerable.
Does anyone really think that there is some secret society keeping everyone else from knowing if an upgrade is available? In this age of instant news, I bet the moment the X10's program loader is hacked, the news will instantly spread and custom roms will soon show up.
...and before people ask whether other phone's Roms can be used once the program loader is hacked, the answer is no. It takes a lot of experimentation just because of differences in the hardware.
I guess I am tired of reading this question over and over again.

I'm glad the x10 doesnt have a dedicated keyboard made the x1 far to chunky and i never used it. Anyone remember the full qwerty keyboard that you could plug into the bottom of the T18 & T28 it was quality

tris1979 said:
I'm glad the x10 doesnt have a dedicated keyboard made the x1 far to chunky and i never used it. Anyone remember the full qwerty keyboard that you could plug into the bottom of the T18 & T28 it was quality
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Well the X10 Mini Pro (with a hardware keyboard) is only like 1mm thicker than the regular Mini...

SE, shame on you

Hi, after I have seen round the web what SE's project is working on,
Xxxx://xxx.pcworld.com/article/203117/sony_planning_psp_phone_android_30_gaming_platform.html
I feel to advice all the future SE customers on what they may experience with Customer Support.
I will spam all possible forums regarding the next SE gadget.
It may be useless my small battle but.... the more people are aware of their shameful CS, the less sales should follow.
What do you think?
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I think this thread should be closed....that's what I think
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i don't get the point of this?
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Watch your language elson14, I didn't meen to upset nobody.
What would you do to advice future SE customers?
Probably you are one who is going to buy the Android/PSP and later complaint because of some OS limitation?
Again, watch your language and grow up a bit, your neurons are begging for it.
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"SE, shame on you"
I agree. The whole firmware lockdown of a good smartphone is purely about future sales. The PSP-phone explains everything, eg. why Flash is not supported by long delayed 2.1.
Companies shouldn't get away with treating all users like idiots. More power to the hackers..

You should be happy that the X10 isnt bugridden like the GS. It was SEs first android phone and i think they did a commendable job. I am sure they have learnt and will treat us better the next time. All said, i love my X10.

I7redd said:
"SE, shame on you"
I agree. The whole firmware lockdown of a good smartphone is purely about future sales. The PSP-phone explains everything, eg. why Flash is not supported by long delayed 2.1.
Companies shouldn't get away with treating all users like idiots. More power to the hackers..
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Thanks, this is what I was trying to say, since English is not my first language, sometimes I even don't understand myself LOl.
I didn't buy the iPhone because of the many restrictions and others limitations.
I was happy, I still happy with the x10 ( I am just waiting for the good news from the dev) butI am furious with SE, there is nothing I can do to harm them but I can spread my experience, the smarter will know what other mobile to buy, the others... will feed the beast.
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celletta said:
Hi, after I have seen round the web what SE's project is working on,
Xxxx://xxx.pcworld.com/article/203117/sony_planning_psp_phone_android_30_gaming_platform.html
I feel to advice all the future SE customers on what they may experience with Customer Support.
I will spam all possible forums regarding the next SE gadget.
It may be useless my small battle but.... the more people are aware of their shameful CS, the less sales should follow.
What do you think?
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For god sake there human...
They are not robots and SE has procrastinated with this update because in all this time they couldn't have done such little and yet they did.
This thread should be locked/closed in my opinion because they have said that they learnt from there mistakes.

zm4 said:
For god sake there human...
They are not robots and SE has procrastinated with this update because in all this time they couldn't have done such little and yet they did.
This thread should be locked/closed in my opinion because they have said that they learnt from there mistakes.
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lol htc people are humans. howcome they have better os?
and when i call se cs they r teribble some of them doesnt even have knowledge about x10. i think u have to be idiot to work at sony ericsson

hmm, normally i dont post on this kinda useless topics, but ok here u have it
1. wtf u complainin about someones language? the language is 100% proper and isnt offending anyone in any way...
2. since se makes something new, what u think they only do that stuff? jeez wake up there isnt only 1 team making stuff u know, and so whut they need to live and work their ways in the market also
3. yeah se is slow, but have u ever seen what u get? go to htc or smthn and have a crappy camera laggy phone etc.etc.etc. i rather get the good things
4. idk if u noticed but this forum isnt made to go wild against se u know..
5. the ppl u get on a phone at se, duh they are not the brightest people thats an fact, but wich helpdesk is?
6. OLD NEWS about the game phone
u know i'll stop by now it has no sence at all to react but yea here have my thought about ur senseless post
sincerely Hawky

I7redd said:
"SE, shame on you"
I agree. The whole firmware lock-down of a good smartphone is purely about future sales. The PSP-phone explains everything, eg. why Flash is not supported by long delayed 2.1.
Companies shouldn't get away with treating all users like idiots. More power to the hackers..
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SE is acting like they are market share leaders instead of near the bottom. If someone asked me if the should get a SE phone unless it was dirt cheap I would say no.

I honestly don't know why people still complaining
First of all there is not a single help-desk that knows everything about products.
Second of all, X10i was their first Android OS, and yet if you looked at any device that used that O.S you will find a huge difference in terms of performance or stability.
And I do liked the fact they locked the bootloader ( yes I do ) because I always want to be different than others, look at all the other devices ( same menu same interface ) with a little difference in applications used.
plus if SE will skip 2.2 that means 3.0 will be released as soon as it is available in the market, in other words, SE will be the first to get it

You guys should hop over to the nexus one general section. It seems HTC has produced some horror stories too.

se_dude said:
You should be happy that the X10 isnt bugridden like the GS. It was SEs first android phone and i think they did a commendable job. I am sure they have learnt and will treat us better the next time. All said, i love my X10.
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+1
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Hoping this forum just tell the truth. What so bad about x10 with 1.6. I my self is very satisfy. Although there are many improvement in 2.1. But just wait and patience.
Sometimes people are so funny. They compare x10 with another phone they don't really know. As I say... X10 is better than other phone and other brands. Really.
Just write and complain according to the truth. Don't spread rumor with nonsense.
I agree with other wise friends to close this thread.
Gunawan, GN Mutimedia & X10i

Get a life.stop complaining..if u dnt like se fones,sell it..go n buy htc plastic fone.hahaha.
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I left Sony along time ago, got myself a desire, you guys are wasting you time with Sony seriously. They take the pi** with their overrated products... the only reason I'm here is because my girlfriend wants me to keep her updated on 2.1...
Go with another company people seriously
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I really would like to sell this peace of, but not for less than a half that i payed..
I dont complaing about flash player , speed ,...
Just could be able to hear and to be heard... and not have a "iron man" nick name due voice distortion...
but even worse.
SE, if you cant do the job, just say "i will not update this crap software, stupid consumer"
Man, phones have names, and SE is not one of them.

Htc is no better, they made tons of smart phone only fews rise to the top. Still they cant pass the ugly radar.
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This thread is a waste of 30 seconds of my life.