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I just switched from a HTC Incredible, rooted, w/skyraider 3.0 loaded, to the Droid X. I have to say, I loved the HTC phones, had a droid before it that I didn't like to much, BUT, this X is amazing. The screen, for not being an LED, is amazing. It looks way better than the INC. Looks like some of the things on the screen actually jump out at you, like 3D or something... It seems to react faster to everything also. Anyone else been this happy with switching??? Oh and It is rooted and loaded with froyo 2.2, so has flash and all the free rooted apps, like wifi tether!

welcome to the dx side... yeah its amazing but dont get me wrong the dinc is pretty cool too with senses, just image if senses ul was on the dx instead of blur, holy! that would be one bad machine there, truely the king of android/droid devices of its time.
can you check the loaded version of the flash player you have for me? i need the full version numbers. thanks
also there's an updated version of your flashplayer, its found in the themes and apps section of this forum by me, but here it is >>> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=763584 <<<

The flash player on mine says version 10.1.72.10... I did really like the Dinc, BUT I don't see the major difference in sense and blur. What are the main differences???

yeah i guess i needed that update... thanks!

thanks for the info.
sense ui is so much cleaner and well put together. i cant really explaining the differences, but there is a huge difference in the two ui's and im sure someone else can explain it...

dr154 said:
thanks for the info.
sense ui is so much cleaner and well put together. i cant really explaining the differences, but there is a huge difference in the two ui's and im sure someone else can explain it...
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Well let me explain each:
HTC SENSE: Basically you have a dock which ONLY has soft-buttons for Phone, the app drawer, and I forget what the plus sign does.... Possibly to add home screen widgets I think....
Motorola BLUR: Motos dock contains a phone soft-button, as well as contacts and app drawer... The only other thing that blur does is chance the dock when swiping to represent what home screen you are on....
EVERYTHING ELSE IS JUST WIDGETS SUCKING UP RESOURCES.
And my last statement is exactly why folks want Vanilla Froyo.. nothing BUT the Android OS. No moto Widgets, No sense..... Just Froyo.. and I will use Launcher Pro always of course!
Hope this helped some of you guys...

i was a dinc to x convert. gave the wife the dinc. loved the dinc. i'm a modder by nature and the dinc has tons of custom roms and other hacks you can do to it which made for consistant enjoyment. i can't wait until some more developments are made with the x so we can do the same kind of stuff to it.
that said, the screen on the x (giant goodness) is really the biggest difference i see. the speed on both is about the same.
the one thing i noticed is that i seem to get better 3g with the x than the dinc (same location) and the dinc gets better wifi than the x. must have something to do with antenna difference i guess.

[Q] Sense on droid x

Is it possible for the new htc sense ui to be ported to the droid x, similar to what has been done with the droid incredible with the desire hd rom port.

I am sure it is possible but demand might be pretty low...
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jaskru said:
I am sure it is possible but demand might be pretty low...
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Would it though? I just started playing and setting up my wife's DInc and I was pretty impressed with how HTC integrated everything and how easy it was to access data.
Kinda makes me wish HTC had a 4 inch screen sized phone before the DX came out

I think jago x is right htc sense does a way better job of making android better

That's not to say it is perfect (it does have some bloat) but at least the bloat isn't as bad as the D2 and DX. Motoblur on the DX has a TON of stuff running in the background.

Very true, but i would like all the innovations like the 2 second boot that comes with the desire hd rom port

I would probably use and donate towards well done sense port. I really hope this thread doesn't turn into a "well you should have gotten an incredible" thread, like one over at droidforums did.
The skinning for a lot of the often used features in android is, I think, better than most other UI shells and a lot of the htc apps are really nice with good widgets as well.
It would mainly be really nice though just for the ability to change it up every once in a while, and I'm getting a bit tired of launcherpro.

Live Wallpapers = crappy performance?

Every time I load up any of my LWPs (NexusKang, Light Grid), all I get is crappy homescreen and launcher performance? Is anyone having this issue or is my Atrix just garbage?

Wow im reading all these threads and nothing good almost like the atrix is not what it should be there's like 6 guys wanting to trade there atrix for a nexus s.And this is not a troll post just wondering whats up with moto me myself im a pure Google guy so all Nexus for me but at one point I wanted this device that's all.
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nucentury08 said:
Wow im reading all these threads and nothing good almost like the atrix is not what it should be there's like 6 guys wanting to trade there atrix for a nexus s.And this is not a troll post just wondering whats up with moto me myself im a pure Google guy so all Nexus for me but at one point I wanted this device that's all.
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Well, I usually like Vanilla too. But there isn't a sexy nexy for ATT and honestly I couldnt stand having only EDGE when I hd the NS.

That's true I bet when att gets the NS watch how many Atrix phones get dropped for it lol
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Its really pathetic. The phone literally cant handle ANYTHING. It can hardly even handle the fingerprint recognition. Its so slow to open your phone, that you are better off just disabling it.
This phone cant even handle 3D launcher animations.
Is this some kind of joke? Honestly... what is going on here?

My 3d launcher animations haven't had any problem. The phone to me is definitely very fast... and I didn't have any problems with live wallpaper.... then again I'm coming from a heavily modded 3GS that was pretty slow to begin with lol.

I'll agree with slower launcher performance with live wall papers but everything else works great for me. And that includes the fingerprint sensor...

connexion2005 said:
I'll agree with slower launcher performance with live wall papers but everything else works great for me. And that includes the fingerprint sensor...
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My captivate makes this phone look slow. Thats how pathetic this is.

I'm owner of a atrix and also a nexus s.
The only cool thing I found on the atrix its how it plays flash content. That's it! Lol. I hate motoblur and is the first time I tried it. Motoblur its pathetic and slow ****! I ended up installing adw launcher ex to make it some how better ..I'm running same launcher on my NS and it runs smoothly as ****. Transitions are flawless and nice. Not the case on atrix. Played with settings and got it working better but still.
.. I'm sure it would get better with custom roms ...
The atrix is going back to Att. Pre ordering the galaxy s 2
Ohhh a d the crappy network speed ...no funny. Tmobile faster
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I've found that Live Wallpapers reduce performance for all the phones I've owned (i.e. Captive, Inspire, and Atrix). I don't find that the Atrix is affected more so than the others. In fact, I think the Atrix runs Jumpgate better than the Inspire did.
edit: Also, I found that Motoblur ran faster than LauncherPro.

Donatron said:
I've found that Live Wallpapers reduce performance for all the phones I've owned (i.e. Captive, Inspire, and Atrix). I don't find that the Atrix is affected more so than the others. In fact, I think the Atrix runs Jumpgate better than the Inspire did.
edit: Also, I found that Motoblur ran faster than LauncherPro.
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try live wallpaper on a NS.. best phone that handles live wallpaper.. no hiccups ...

Try jumpgate on a nexus s that's how a 3d Lwp should look and run Peroid
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Im not sure why everyone is having so many problems. Jumpgate runs perfectly on my atrix without any problems and the phone doesn't slow down period.

yeah I have beautiful widgets and the live clouds and grass moving with the clock widget with weather running all the time and everything is very fast, plus the finger reader works very quick within 1 sec i`m at my home screen ready to rock and roll, only really issue I had was with google earth was just updated and works flawless now yeah I also the jumpgate wall paper and I installed and it runs flawless too, I still use the stock launcher and eveything is still smooth fast

Yesterday I couldnt run anything... today Im having success... I think moto is secretly updating this phone in the background...

psufan5 said:
Yesterday I couldnt run anything... today Im having success... I think moto is secretly updating this phone in the background...
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That's good to hear. Maybe you had something running in the background that was eating up resources?

I betcha the nexus S running android 2.3 has something to do with it too, doesn't 2.3 have a lot more hardware accelerated graphics in it?
I'm expecting the atrix to get a big speed boost from 2.3, having said that, I'm coming from an old G1, and the Atrix has been ridiculously fast compared to that, emails open immediately, unlock is instant, any app opens right away.
and I can use Trapster again it was unusably slow on the G1 (with cyanogenmod nightly btw)

I'm really confused why people are having so many issues... I've been running LWP since day 1 with no slow down. I rooted the phone and loaded up launcher pro almost immediately, but I can't imagine that's the reason why everything's been smooth for me.

Donatron said:
I've found that Live Wallpapers reduce performance for all the phones I've owned (i.e. Captive, Inspire, and Atrix). I don't find that the Atrix is affected more so than the others. In fact, I think the Atrix runs Jumpgate better than the Inspire did.
edit: Also, I found that Motoblur ran faster than LauncherPro.
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LauncherPro runs like crap on the atrix, idky. Motoblur runs good. I am currently using golauncher, runs very well.
Also i have had 0 problems with lwps...all run great.

Any update on that?
I was told that Samsung's Galaxy S wallpapers (e.g. Ocean Wave) don't run on the Atrix AT ALL. It may be the Tegra 2 architecture, or the qHD screen. You can try it:
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http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?c...rolib%20Page
What about other GPU-intensive wallpapers, like Galactic Core? How smooth do they run?

thoughts/excitment about ICS?

Just wondering what you fellow G2/DZ owners think about the upcoming android release "Ice cream sandwich". what features or changes are you excited about? do you reckon cyanogen team will migrate to it for our devices? and can our devices even effeciently run it?
i for one am always excited about any improvements to android, seeing it come so far has been incredible and i hope it continues to expand and prosper while still maintaining the performance and complexity weve come to adore as modders/hax0rs.
please share
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I'm assuming you've seen the engadget video of the leaked software? I know it's just a visual eyecandy thing but I'm actually looking forward to the screen rotation animations, for one. The lockscreen looks like it is similar to a MIUI circle lockscreen where you can unlock to different app shortcuts. Just looking forward to something new in general I guess, heh. If it was running on a Nexus S, I'm 100% it will work just fine for us, too.

i think that engadget video cant be faker, cmon a lucky guy from ebay?? hahaha yeah right reminds me of the iphone prototypes found in a bar a while ago
i think its just a very nice cooked ROM, also compare it to the leaked pictures and it doesnt look the same
about ICS taken from cyanogen i think it is gonna be ported by the team as theyve been doing with every previous version of android, so expect CM8! also i think were not gonna have any problems running it on our G2s since AOSP are not that heavy and i think ICS is not gonna be that heavy either, at least not like a sense ROM

As stated above. I'm mainly looking forward to rotation animation and speed increases.
As far as I'm concerned each new stock version has had a similar speed to the previous modded version. So I'm not expecting much in the way of speed..... yet.
Here's hoping there's plenty new toys.
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Visual improvements are welcome, but I'm looking forward to the under the hood improvements. And hopefully being able to run honeycomb apps.
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Will it be released ota for desire z devices.
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JDogg1329 said:
Will it be released ota for desire z devices.
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Doubt it. On my 5th android handset from 3 manufacturers and resigned to the fact that I need custom roms to get the latest/fastest software.
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Frankly, it looks horrendous - especially from a user experience point of view. As a longtime fan of Android, it boggles my mind that the software is so half-baked.

I'm not exactly blown out of the water by it. It looks like they took some of the Honeycomb design language and ported it over as a skin ontop of Gingerbread. I really hope that its more than that, but we'll have to see. 2.2 to 2.3 was a lot of polish and cleaning up with some new UI elements, so I hope 4.0 is a big leap.
I hope that we see performance gains, new features, and more stability/usability. I liked what they did in Honeycomb from a UI and smoothness PoV, but I'm not sure how that will translate to the smaller screen. The big test will be how it performs and looks on the next Nexus device, as that is the benchmark or platform example of what they want it to look like. I don't think the vision of ICS is complete when its running on a Nexus S.

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Frankly, it looks horrendous - especially from a user experience point of view. As a longtime fan of Android, it boggles my mind that the software is so half-baked.
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I disagree, but I don't think anybody can judge until we officially see them demonstrate it.
If that leak was real, it's basically some honeycomb elements and a bluish neon theme. Not really a huge stretch from what we have currently. And face it, Android still isn't as user friendly as it could be. ICS needs to be huge if they want to stay ahead of WP7 and compete with iOS.
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And face it, Android still isn't as user friendly as it could be. ICS needs to be huge if they want to stay ahead of WP7 and compete with iOS.
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I agree with that. They really need to knock it out of the park. Not necessarily with features (they already have a ton of features) but with user experience and consistency/reliability. iOS and WP7 knock it out of the park on user experience whether you care to admit it or not. If Android can smooth out a lot of the rough edges and issues I'm sure it'll give a huge boost to sales.

The problem is that high end Androids still lag. Now I'm willing to place a lot of blame on oems, but Android is still too power and resource hungry. That NEEDS to be addressed here.
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Nospin said:
The problem is that high end Androids still lag. Now I'm willing to place a lot of blame on oems, but Android is still too power and resource hungry. That NEEDS to be addressed here.
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Funny...my g2 lasts twice as long on battery as my lender iphone 4, though I'm all for power and battery improvements who knows what android can achieve.
As for top end androids lagging, I'm assuming your referring to stock devices. In which bloatware can be blamed for 99% of that lag. For a one year old device my g2 blows every one of my friends devices out of the water, especially when everyone is out somewhere and we need to 'google' something, my wp7 friends never find the right info, and the iphone guys/gurls usually never get to the search fast enough lol. THIS is what I believe sets us apart, the speed in which I can fire a google search, check google maps, etc leaves all my non google friends gawking at how easy my droid is.
I'm hoping for a little bit of user experience improvement, but mostly if they can squeeze out even more performance and power saving, it'll truly set us apart from the competition.
Edit: IMO
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Iphone5 comes out
G-Infinity is a quadcore with qwerty and invisibility cloaking option, (just in case) also has a mini lightsaber incase you know, ..
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To be honest, I don't like the way Android development is going. I mean, phones keep getting more and more powerful, we have dual-core CPUs and lots of RAM, but the OS doesn't really feel faster and the user experience is more or less the same.
What I'd like to see in ICS is a smoother feeling, especially faster launching apps and making better use of the hardware (the second one is difficult with all the diferent phones out there).
Also, some more UI customization would be welcome. For example, changing the battery icon (or the whole status bar icon set) without root or cooking a custom rom, or making my own tabs in the app drawer.

costipl said:
To be honest, I don't like the way Android development is going. I mean, phones keep getting more and more powerful, we have dual-core CPUs and lots of RAM, but the OS doesn't really feel faster and the user experience is more or less the same.
What I'd like to see in ICS is a smoother feeling, especially faster launching apps and making better use of the hardware (the second one is difficult with all the diferent phones out there).
Also, some more UI customization would be welcome. For example, changing the battery icon (or the whole status bar icon set) without root or cooking a custom rom, or making my own tabs in the app drawer.
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I also agree, the way I see it the more powerful they get the more battery hungry they will be, though I could be wrong. Cm7 runs pretty damn smooth at 800mhz stock speed so I mean it is possible to optimize the os for a single core. But I mean looking back from donut to ginger, the os does feel not only bigger but also runs smoother in my opinion. But again it could be because the hardware has improved so much as well.
Given the fact the iphone 4s specs were just announced, and don't really wow anyone, I'm hoping oct 11th and ICS blow everything out of the water. Google is most definetly capable of showing some innovation, so my fingers are crossed that ICS is everything we want! Would also prove perfect timing to make even more gain in the mobile os department. They also need to keep up the sick advertising on tv, lord knows the commercials make my iphail pals jealous!
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i'm with the people saying that they hope ICS brings with it better performance and nicer User Experience. rooting really barely helps. don't get me wrong its fun having all these choices and flashing roms and whatnot. but none of them really make the phone work like it should. i still have lag. i still have crashes. full wipes do nothing. yea it runs AMAZING for a day. maybe a week on a really good rom. and then things start lagging. it's getting harder and harder to defend. "no you don't get it, with android you get choice and iphone sucks" ... as my friend's iphone works perfectly pretty much 100% of the time. blah. come on ICS. wow me. please!

From sense to touchwiz

Always had HTC phones currently the desire HD,been waiting to see what they had to offer and have to say the x1 doesn't do it for me,so thinking of jumping ship and waiting for the SGS3.thing is I really like HTC sense.So to any former HTC user now with the SGS2 and touchwiz,how did you find the transition,can you get it set up to suit and what should I be aware of if making the jump once the SGS3 is out
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Transition is pretty easy. I never found sense very useful (in a global way) but it's really pretty. I think touchwiz is the opposite. It's kind of ugly with all these shiny icons but it's discret and have a few cool features (especially around the notification bar).
Plus, TW is a lot snappier than sense used to be (didn't get to try newer HTC devices). I even find TW snappier than any launcher you can find on the market.

I moved from desire z to sgs2, and I must say that touchwiz was a big disappointment to me.
It's not hard to get used to touchwiz, but it will be hard to get used with the missing features, for me the most annoying thing was that the dial pad can not search after the second name, I mean if you want to search for "combat goofwing" and you type in the dial pad 4663 for "goof" it will not find anything.
Another annoying thing is that in the app drawer the apps are not sorted in alphabetical order, they are sorted in the install order, and you can move them around but I don't have the patience to move apps around, for me this makes apps harder to find.
I own this phone for a few mounts now and I used to it, but I still miss sense.
The hardware is great, I still can't believe how good the display is, everything works very smooth, but unfortunately touchwiz is light years behind sense.
Any way I'm sorry I didn't bought the sensation, but my next phone will definitely be a HTC.

You can always choose alphabetical listing option. Move to a custom ROM, the phone rocks.
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ionut.micu said:
I moved from desire z to sgs2, and I must say that touchwiz was a big disappointment to me.
It's not hard to get used to touchwiz, but it will be hard to get used with the missing features, for me the most annoying thing was that the dial pad can not search after the second name, I mean if you want to search for "combat goofwing" and you type in the dial pad 4663 for "goof" it will not find anything.
Another annoying thing is that in the app drawer the apps are not sorted in alphabetical order, they are sorted in the install order, and you can move them around but I don't have the patience to move apps around, for me this makes apps harder to find.
I own this phone for a few mounts now and I used to it, but I still miss sense.
The hardware is great, I still can't believe how good the display is, everything works very smooth, but unfortunately touchwiz is light years behind sense.
Any way I'm sorry I didn't bought the sensation, but my next phone will definitely be a HTC.
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Ditto for me, I think I will go buy a One S or X; there are just so many little things missing from touchwizz compared to sense ( I don't mean just the launchers but all the apps htc and samsung, include or modify); don't get me wrong touchwiz is not bad at all, especially compared to stock android but it's just not as good as sense.

Used to have a htc desire before my SGS2.. the only things I liked about sense 2.1 was the lockscreen that gives the caller/texter name at the bottom, instead of a little numbered flagged like touchwiz (being honest I know I could get widgetlocker and get that back but don't mind the sammy lockscreen that much) and I liked the screen unlock weather animations (which I have on my SGS2 courtesy of Beautiful Widgets)
The rest of sense wasn't that great, the contacts app is a little more intuitive than SGS2's but not really an issue
Oh, the touchwiz launcher is pretty useless, but I've been using LauncherPro since day 1

Beautiful widgets' superclock is just annoying, I disabled the animations because you see them everyone time you unlock unlike sense where you will only see it when the widget is visible. Also better in sense : keyboard (best touchscreen keyboard), friends pictures in the gallery, friendstream, sense unlockscreen with shortcuts, dialer, app drawers.

i dont really care because when i get a phone i just put cm on it')
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I have an amaze 4g and my wife has the tmobile sgs2. We both are from the htc g2 running sense. She loves how simple TW is, but she says its missing quite a bit of things she liked, all little things but none the less missing them.
I my self hate TW seems like a child's launcher in a way.
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I miss the dialer and contact screen from Sense. I can get everything else with some minor modifications and apps so it's not a big deal. Shame for the contacts and dialer though.

Touchwiz is fast, unobtrusive and smooth, but in stock form, very, very ugly and lacking in features.
Mind you I've always found HTC Android phones somewhat unresponsive and glitchy.
The only flavour of Android I get on with now is AOSP ICS. Its a big improvement to me. That said, my next phone might not be Android, I might give WP7 a go. I've had a few tries and it is starting to look like a fantastically polished OS, and flashing ROMs all the time is beginning to lose its appeal. It may not have the apps, or the flexibility, or capability, but it makes up for it in other ways.

I haven't seen or used sense, but I know how unfulfilling TW feels. For me, flashing and playing around with MI-UI did the trick. It's the perfect combination of neatness and usefulness. Combined with minor add-ons (such as a new keyboard, kernel, ...) it turns out to be the most stable and enjoyable rom I have ever used. Check it out (google miuandroid).

HTC all the way!
I had htc desire hd which i still have and love. I then got htc sensation and the missus got a sgs2 she hates the user interface and loves the htc user interface. If your looking for something that will in my opinion be comparable to the iphone then htc all the way.

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I had htc desire hd which i still have and love. I then got htc sensation and the missus got a sgs2 she hates the user interface and loves the htc user interface. If your looking for something that will in my opinion be comparable to the iphone then htc all the way.
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For an iphone-ish look I strongly recommend the previously mentioned MIUI rom.

For me, I don't know. I couldn't do Sense. I liked the graphics and what not - but I found the user-interface a bit stubborn. Touchwiz was clean and simple.

I have the desire s and SII, and I like sense better than TW.
Sense feels like it's more developed than TW.
For me software htc > samsung and hardware htc < samsung.
So SII with sense would be great for me personally.

ionut.micu said:
I moved from desire z to sgs2, and I must say that touchwiz was a big disappointment to me.
It's not hard to get used to touchwiz, but it will be hard to get used with the missing features, for me the most annoying thing was that the dial pad can not search after the second name, I mean if you want to search for "combat goofwing" and you type in the dial pad 4663 for "goof" it will not find anything.
Another annoying thing is that in the app drawer the apps are not sorted in alphabetical order, they are sorted in the install order, and you can move them around but I don't have the patience to move apps around, for me this makes apps harder to find.
I own this phone for a few mounts now and I used to it, but I still miss sense.
The hardware is great, I still can't believe how good the display is, everything works very smooth, but unfortunately touchwiz is light years behind sense.
Any way I'm sorry I didn't bought the sensation, but my next phone will definitely be a HTC.
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Download appzorter from market. Rearrange apps alphabetically. Simples
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Thx, unfortunelley "this app is not compatiblewith youre device" maby it's because I'm ussing LPH rom, but it's good to know.
And I forgot to say, I came from a long series of HTC phones (diamond, touch pro, touch pro 2, wildfire, desire z), all of them are still in use today and work great, guess wich phone needed to go to service becsause microusb port mallfunction after a few mount of use... exactly the sgs2.

Great feedback thanks,having seen the videos of the new HTC X1 now I may just stick with HTC still lots to look at
Thanks again
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combat goofwing said:
Great feedback thanks,having seen the videos of the new HTC X1 now I may just stick with HTC still lots to look at
Thanks again
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I think it's a pretty tough choice between the X and S, they both have their pros and cons (S has the more powerful CPU(in spite of the 4 cores of the tegra3) and AMOLED; X the more powerful GPU, more storage and higher DPI)