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I think we're getting DL15, not DL11 - Found this on samsung.com

Every morning I do a quick search of the interwebs to check for new ROM leaks - so I search "Epic" "Froyo" "DL11" "DL15" etc.
I just googled "Epic Froyo DL15" and THIS was the third result. It looks like an unfinished FAQ for a DL15 update.
http://ars.samsung.com/customer/usa/jsp/faqs/faqs_view_us.jsp?SITE_ID=22&PG_ID=2&PROD_SUB_ID=557&PROD_ID=559&AT_ID=356773
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Man, I just wish they'd hurry up and release it already.
Btw, look at the date on that thing, its from the 15th of December lol.

Good finding!
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JSarella said:
Man, I just wish they'd hurry up and release it already.
Btw, look at the date on that thing, its from the 15th of December lol.
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So after more than a week, Samsung still hasn't completed this simple FAQ, no wonder it's taking them so long to get FroYo out.

I don't see why they wouldn't push out the latest version. Average person isn't going to want to flash again a week later for minor fixes.

DeltaTL6 said:
So after more than a week, Samsung still hasn't completed this simple FAQ, no wonder it's taking them so long to get FroYo out.
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Samsung finished with froyo about a month and a half to two months ago and publicly announced that they gave the build to carriers, its been sprint that has been taking forever to do their modifications to it and then release it
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This is very interesting, indeed.

Sh0wNuF said:
Samsung finished with froyo about a month and a half to two months ago and publicly announced that they gave the build to carriers, its been sprint that has been taking forever to do their modifications to it and then release it
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Right, I know Sprint also has a hand in this. But Samsung really hasn't released one that doesn't fry your memory chip and/or brick your phone.

DeltaTL6 said:
Right, I know Sprint also has a hand in this. But Samsung really hasn't released one that doesn't fry your memory chip and/or brick your phone.
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What are you talking about? Samsung wouldn't publicly release something that messes up your phone and they can't release an OS straight to our phones anyways, it has to go through the carrier before its released
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DeltaTL6 said:
Right, I know Sprint also has a hand in this. But Samsung really hasn't released one that doesn't fry your memory chip and/or brick your phone.
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umm..yes they have...the i9000 upgraded fine..the issues you speak of are of Canadian vibrants..

Looks like it will miss the december window all together....so now that's 4 months late with every month suppose to see a release...at this rate we will get gingerbread by 2012

imtjnotu said:
Looks like it will miss the december window all together....so now that's 4 months late with every month suppose to see a release...at this rate we will get gingerbread by 2012
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Lol I think you're right....
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imtjnotu said:
Looks like it will miss the december window all together....so now that's 4 months late with every month suppose to see a release...at this rate we will get gingerbread by 2012
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I agree; let's just hope it gets updated before the world blows up then lol.

acer1096xxx said:
I agree; let's just hope it gets updated before the world blows up then lol.
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release will be on 12/20/2012 giving us just one day to play with it....
This is really the only reason I miss the evo...atleast the coorperate devs t htc and sprint rolled out updates...they have gotten 3 updates while we are still stuck on di18

I have to be honest, I'm really reconsidering buy this thing. The evo can be modified in all kinds of ways, and it gets updates from Sprint/HTC in a much more timely fashion.
Samsung and Sprint doesn't seem to give a crap about the Epic for some reason, I'm not sure why since Sammy has sold close to 10 million of these galaxy s phones. I mean if you don't support these devices and provide timely updates, I don't see people being repeat customers of Samsung.
This has been my first non HTC smartphone, and frankly its looking to be my last, its a shame too, the hardware itself is terrific.

http://briefmobile.com/samsung-epic-4g-no-android-2-2-froyo-update-on-1226
Read that ^

Whosdaman said:
http://briefmobile.com/samsung-epic-4g-no-android-2-2-froyo-update-on-1226
Read that ^
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We're at dl19. Not dl15
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well thats good if we are at dl19 instead of dl15
as long as they are actively working on it and making improvments, I am ok with the wait.
nice find

JSarella said:
I have to be honest, I'm really reconsidering buy this thing. The evo can be modified in all kinds of ways, and it gets updates from Sprint/HTC in a much more timely fashion.
Samsung and Sprint doesn't seem to give a crap about the Epic for some reason, I'm not sure why since Sammy has sold close to 10 million of these galaxy s phones. I mean if you don't support these devices and provide timely updates, I don't see people being repeat customers of Samsung.
This has been my first non HTC smartphone, and frankly its looking to be my last, its a shame too, the hardware itself is terrific.
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It's not that they don't give a crap about it. Froyo was designed on and optimized for a different processor and file system. For whatever reason, Samsung insists on using their own file system, which means they basically have to port Froyo to work with their specs. In addition, a company that only makes phones and pda's like HTC, can concentrate 100% of their resources on those products. While Samsung is making microwaves, TV's, Cameras, and whatever else, so they prioritize a little differently.

hayabusa1300cc said:
well thats good if we are at dl19 instead of dl15
as long as they are actively working on it and making improvments, I am ok with the wait.
nice find
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There comes a point though when they have to actually release something. Would you still be ok with the wait if they decide to start working on build DL21 and then move on to DL24, etc... and not release a damn thing in the mean while?
This is just freaking ridiculous. We were promised before the end of the year we would have Froyo and it seems that is not going to happen now.

Rage Against the Carrier and Samsung Machine

Hey Guys,
Just wanted to share a pretty heated thread over on the Captivate Forum.
Please post your comments and show your support!
We need to band together and stick it to the man!!!
Edit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=958214
Thanks in advance

I really hope you get what your looking for, but I am not sure what that is exactly... I must decline though.. I have a life, and have already wasted about 20 seconds of it typing this.
Thanks for thinking of us though.
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Hey Guys,
Just wanted to share a pretty heated thread over on the Captivate Forum.
Please post your comments and show your support!
We need to band together and stick it to the man!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=704
Thanks in advance
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What's the thread you want us to see...?
You just posted the link to the Captivate's General Section, not any thread.

He probably means the "Communicate with Samsung" thread over there. There's a lot of Samsung hate flying around in there.
I hope Samsung really is trying to move in the right direction. Only time will tell how it pans out, though. The best thing we can all do is use the communicate with samsung page to ask as many good serious non-trolling questions as possible to try to impress upon Samsung what we think is important.

Yeah sorry about the wrong link. edited OP

We should all go in there and reassure the Captivate owners that Samsung isn't that bad since we are getting Froyo on Monday.
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It's not about froyo... It's about the bs PR stunt they are pulling and the possible loss of XDA credibility!
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jcabibi said:
It's not about froyo... It's about the bs PR stunt they are pulling and the possible loss of XDA credibility!
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Oh, well thats just stupid then. You need to wait and see what SamsungJohn brings with "phase 2" and beyond. Then pass judgement. I dont like how he went about what he is doing and I have voiced that fairly well, but to call it a bs PR stunt is probably premature. And what credibility is XDA going to lose even if this is a PR stunt? Developers are going to stop using XDA because they got hoodwinked? Not likely.

muyoso said:
We should all go in there and reassure the Captivate owners that Samsung isn't that bad since we are getting Froyo on Monday.
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I've been curious about the timing of all this. Is Sprint trying to save face because they've been the hold up? Or is Samsung trying to steal Sprint's thunder on xda? Or is it simply a coincidence?

DiGi760 said:
I've been curious about the timing of all this. Is Sprint trying to save face because they've been the hold up? Or is Samsung trying to steal Sprint's thunder on xda? Or is it simply a coincidence?
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Its a coincidence. 90% of Epic4g owners on Sprint probably dont even know what Froyo is or care if its released at all. There is no reason for Sprint or Samsung to feel pressure now more than any other time to release Froyo.

But they do feel the pressure... XDArs may only be 2% of consumers, but we are the ones that family and friends come to for advice. Our voice carries a lot further than one would think!
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muyoso said:
Its a coincidence. 90% of Epic4g owners on Sprint probably dont even know what Froyo is or care if its released at all. There is no reason for Sprint or Samsung to feel pressure now more than any other time to release Froyo.
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Lets not forget, t-mo users at xda forced their froyo update with threat of class action lawsuit...
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muyoso said:
Its a coincidence. 90% of Epic4g owners on Sprint probably dont even know what Froyo is or care if its released at all. There is no reason for Sprint or Samsung to feel pressure now more than any other time to release Froyo.
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You're right. I just told my wife she might get an update next week called FroYo and she said what's that I'm not gonna lose my contacts am I. LOL
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muyoso said:
We should all go in there and reassure the Captivate owners that Samsung isn't that bad since we are getting Froyo on Monday.
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Dont jinx it!!!!!! Im pretty sure its happening from what we see... but im not COMPLETELY relaxing until its in our hands.
As far as John, hopefully his phase 2, or whatever the big thing is, is giving the Devs access to stuff no other OEM would do.... THAT would be impressive John... drivers, etc???
Even if there was legitimate software issues that really took this long to resolve, once its out, couldn't they post what they went thru, that could save face if SOMEHOW it actually took this long.... as long as that holdup wasnt anti-root security... that would be pretty silly... anything can be reverse engineered... ask the HDCP consortium....
Free USB>HDMI cables? Free TVs? Discount of SGS2, with the promise of releasing with the cutting edge software, and timely updates after that???
ok... im done... for now

ungovernable1977 said:
Dont jinx it!!!!!! Im pretty sure its happening from what we see... but im not COMPLETELY relaxing until its in our hands.
As far as John, hopefully his phase 2, or whatever the big thing is, is giving the Devs access to stuff no other OEM would do.... THAT would be impressive John... drivers, etc???
Even if there was legitimate software issues that really took this long to resolve, once its out, couldn't they post what they went thru, that could save face if SOMEHOW it actually took this long.... as long as that holdup wasnt anti-root security... that would be pretty silly... anything can be reverse engineered... ask the HDCP consortium....
Free USB>HDMI cables? Free TVs? Discount of SGS2, with the promise of releasing with the cutting edge software, and timely updates after that???
ok... im done... for now
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I doubt very highly that they'd offer us free anything, except maybe a kick in the behind. Also, discounts on sgs2 just doesn't seem very likely either. I'm just hoping for transparency regarding source code and MAYBE drivers, but not holding my breath.
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muyoso said:
We should all go in there and reassure the Captivate owners that Samsung isn't that bad since we are getting Froyo on Monday.
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Don't hold your breath! The Captivate crowd had Froyo released today only to have it pulled about an hour later.
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ungovernable1977 said:
Dont jinx it!!!!!! Im pretty sure its happening from what we see... but im not COMPLETELY relaxing until its in our hands.
As far as John, hopefully his phase 2, or whatever the big thing is, is giving the Devs access to stuff no other OEM would do.... THAT would be impressive John... drivers, etc???
Even if there was legitimate software issues that really took this long to resolve, once its out, couldn't they post what they went thru, that could save face if SOMEHOW it actually took this long.... as long as that holdup wasnt anti-root security... that would be pretty silly... anything can be reverse engineered... ask the HDCP consortium....
Free USB>HDMI cables? Free TVs? Discount of SGS2, with the promise of releasing with the cutting edge software, and timely updates after that???
ok... im done... for now
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I like you. You think EXACTLY like I do!!!

aleph23 said:
Lets not forget, t-mo users at xda forced their froyo update with threat of class action lawsuit...
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I seriously doubt that had anything to do with it. Just taking a logical guess, I'd wager the more likely scenario is that T-Mo's GS phone had less proprietary carrier 'issues' such as TouchWiz on our side to have to work the kinks out & 'play nice' with. I'm relatively newer with Sprint from that angle, but in my AT&T history I know all too well how they like to cater things to how they want them and/or limit them.

Closed thread encouraging flaming and a duplicate of many other threads.

Grr .. New Android 2.3.3 Gingerbread build for Droid X reportedly is pushing OTA

http://www.androidcentral.com/new-a...ing-over-air?utm_source=ac&utm_medium=twitter
A new build of Android 2.3.3 for the Motorola Droid X is making the rounds this afternoon and reportedly has hit up a few people OTA-style. Here's the deal:
We're looking at Android 2.3.3. That's Gingerbread, folks.
It's system version 4.5.588 -- the leaked build we played with last month was 4.5.573.
It's said that the update might be pushed out silently -- you could get it an not even know it. We'll believe that when we don't see it.
If you don't feel like waiting for the update, you can update manually. (We've got instructions after the break.)
And if you do update (manually or over the air), the old 2.3.340 SBF file will still work, just in case you need to roll back.
So, that's that. We're halfway expecting Verizon to let us know if this thing's for real -- they've been really good about announcing updates the past few months. Anyone actually seeing this over the air yet? If you wanna give it a go the manual way, head on past the break. [Droid X Forums via P3Droid and Android Central Forums]

Same sh!t, different toilet.......GB will come when its time.
~ d3rk

So much for the people who swore the evo would be first! Its on tho.. we'll get it eventually
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Batman58 said:
So much for the people who swore the evo would be first! Its on tho.. we'll get it eventually
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The wording was "one of the first"

You are now looking at Dan Hesse's POV when he gets home today
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HTC is losing their edge to Motorola. They'll even let you downgrade from GB.
Not a good look for them since many people are so loyal to HTC for that very reason. And now that Motorola is talking about easing up on the rooting crowd...
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mattykinsx said:
The wording was "one of the first"
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Actually, there were a few people who swore it would be THE first.
One of the first makes no sense, of course it will be one of the first even if it's the tenth.

Batman58 said:
One of the first makes no sense, of course it will be one of the first even if it's the tenth.
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Uh.......

mattykinsx said:
Uh.......
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Uhh. One of the first is kinda general.. there is no definition for it.
Being THE first and ONE of the first is a huge difference. If 30 android phones eventually receive the GB update and the EVO was tenth.. then yes it will be one of the first, especially if the EVO gets it in June and the other 20 don't get it until November.
I think you just like to argue or you got defensive thinking I was talking about you.. when I don't think I was.
Either way, all I ever said was the EVO would not be the first to get the update since there were leaks already for Samsung and Motorola phones.. and I got flamed for it.
EDIT: Actually, you did say it will get it first.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12669787&postcount=40
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12669552&postcount=35

Batman58 said:
Uhh. One of the first is kinda general.. there is no definition for it.
Being THE first and ONE of the first is a huge difference. If 30 android phones eventually receive the GB update and the EVO was tenth.. then yes it will be one of the first, especially if the EVO gets it in June and the other 20 don't get it until November.
I think you just like to argue or you got defensive thinking I was talking about you.. when I don't think I was.
Either way, all I ever said was the EVO would not be the first to get the update since there were leaks already for Samsung and Motorola phones.. and I got flamed for it.
EDIT: Actually, you did say it will get it first.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12669787&postcount=40
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12669552&postcount=35
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Time out.
You're trying to dispute the definition of the phrase "one of the first" and bring up an old post where I say "likely first maybe second" and you're going to accuse ME of trying to argue?
I love XDA forums.

mattykinsx said:
Time out.
You're trying to dispute the definition of the phrase "one of the first" and bring up an old post where I say "likely first maybe second" and you're going to accuse ME of trying to argue?
I love XDA forums.
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Uh look at the second link. You said it will be THE first. I never once in that thread said it wouldn't be ONE of the first. Who the heck would argue that? Use your brain..
First you come in here and say "the wording was one of the first" and I proved otherwise. You didn't say likely first until you said THE first.
The Evo is going to be the first ...maybe second but likely first
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stop trying to spin it, you chose to reply to my comment in here.. just own what you say.
It's ok if you're mad.. but it wasnt' the wording and you were pretty adamant about it being the first. You were wrong, it's ok.

Batman58 said:
Uh look at the second link. You said it will be THE first. I never once in that thread said it wouldn't be ONE of the first. Who the heck would argue that? Use your brain..
First you come in here and say "the wording was one of the first" and I proved otherwise.
It's ok if you're mad.. but it wasnt' the wording and you were pretty adamant about it being the first. You were wrong, it's ok.
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Why don't you post the links in the order it was presented to the class?

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Why don't you post the links in the order it was presented to the class?
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Ok, first you said this.
The Evo will be getting gingerbread in quarter two....
Quarter two is April first to June first.
Show me one phone that has been updated to gingerbread (dev phones don't count obviously.)
The Evo is going to be the first ...maybe second but likely first
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Then you said this
Given the track record of all those phones I would bet the Evo gets it first.
The Evo was the fastest phone ever to get an update...kinda sad...but true
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You can even see in my posts you quoted from that thread that we were debating who gets it FIRST, not ONE of the first. We weren't debating that at all, nobody was.
Can we let it go now? The EVO will get it, it won't be first but we will get it eventually.

so donz haz the gb on my cm7 anymoarz?

BrianDigital said:
so donz haz the gb on my cm7 anymoarz?
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What?.......

HOLY F*** you 2 take that crap to PM's lol

CheesyNutz said:
HOLY F*** you 2 take that crap to PM's lol
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Haha, yea I guess we did get carried away.
Sorry guys

I believe this link provides a good read for some of us.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_are_the_context_clues

https://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=ht...d-droid-x-reportedly-pushing-over-air&h=9fe61
Verizon says no update yet.

^...there is a certain member in the general section that seems to be in the middle of every drama thread...and if u think im talking about you...you would be correct....(ahem,cough,ahem)
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You guys are awesome.

Whats up guys ...
Hope you all enjoy Gingerbread it seems to be close to release and comming along pretty good ...
I also want to thank the Devs and all of the people who's hard work goes into making Kernels, Themes, Roms,How to videos ...
This has been my favorite forum (even with its ups and downs -_- )on XDA all of you guys are awesome
Thanks!! for making the epic a truly Epic phone.
Keep up the good work guys hope you guys enjoy what time you have left here.
before i leave though ...
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I got one for each of you

Thanks! ................

Great post
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Where you going? There are still treats to be had!

I approve this post.

The Root said:
Where you going? There are still treats to be had!
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I know ... i'm on he fence ... there are so many douches on the 3vo forums
appearantly im a "wannabe mod"
so w/e ...

iSaint said:
I know ... i'm on he fence ... there are so many douches on the 3vo forums
appearantly im a "wannabe mod"
so w/e ...
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Lol I'm sorry your going to have a hard time there, so many trolls heading that way
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iSaint said:
I know ... i'm on he fence ... there are so many douches on the 3vo forums
appearantly im a "wannabe mod"
so w/e ...
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Stay here! We know you here. Lol
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I won't be going to the Within, but I'll be sending decent people there.
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The Root said:
I won't be going to the Within, but I'll be sending decent people there.
Sent from Godot's place.
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Its amazing the maturity of the people on the Epic forums compared to the Evo forums ... it's ridiculous

woot woot!

Ditto on the Within. I haven't truely made up my mind just yet (although I hate the screen, cams and battery life on the evo3d). I don't get my upgrade til September (epic release date) after calling Sprint about premier gold vs silver (thanks again guys!) and my plan is to wait about a month (if necessary) to see what Cyanogenmod prospects look like on both platforms. If the within has good progress at least being made, within for sure. But if it's a small dev community (don't get me wrong, ours is certainly quality over quantity ) again working on a very different us variant with issues, it may be enough to make me take the Evo3D. I love its resolution like you wouldn't believe, but I think the screen looks like crap because of the 3d surface on top of it. Plus qualcomm crappy battery life, 720p 5mp only cameras... should be interesting!
I don't think I'm alone in saying though the epic taught me a very valuable lesson. Never buy on release day. Its hard I know but the epic is great, we've STILL got great devs hard at work, and gingerbread and flash look better than on a mac (which almost always suck with fash). I'll wait it out a bit. If I upgrade it'll be mostly for software support, mods and a bit more running ram for multitasking.
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This is basically my thoughts ... i think im going to wait ... but you can order the Evo 3d online now ...
http://shop2.sprint.com/NASApp/onli...es?phoneSKU=APX515CKT&ECID=vanity:ftbredbud29

compuw22c said:
Ditto on the Within. I haven't truely made up my mind just yet (although I hate the screen, cams and battery life on the evo3d). I don't get my upgrade til September (epic release date) after calling Sprint about premier gold vs silver (thanks again guys!) and my plan is to wait about a month (if necessary) to see what Cyanogenmod prospects look like on both platforms. If the within has good progress at least being made, within for sure. But if it's a small dev community (don't get me wrong, ours is certainly quality over quantity ) again working on a very different us variant with issues, it may be enough to make me take the Evo3D. I love its resolution like you wouldn't believe, but I think the screen looks like crap because of the 3d surface on top of it. Plus qualcomm crappy battery life, 720p 5mp only cameras... should be interesting!
I don't think I'm alone in saying though the epic taught me a very valuable lesson. Never buy on release day. Its hard I know but the epic is great, we've STILL got great devs hard at work, and gingerbread and flash look better than on a mac (which almost always suck with fash). I'll wait it out a bit. If I upgrade it'll be mostly for software support, mods and a bit more running ram for multitasking.
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Mystery's ability to do what he did with froyo makes me wonder what we'll get from ACS regarding GB. This release was sick. It's the froyo we were all seeking. I think we're on track to see our phones rise as their reliability continue to cruise. I know people still joining older phones for cost reasons. We'll have another wave enter our community down the road. It's all cyclical. The Within crowd will be demanding before they learn patience. Be strong, grasshoppers.

That reminds me, in preparation for my trip to Amsterdam and Germany I was updating my old TP2 (for the sim card slot, last year I got 6.5-7mbps on vodafone germany, for ten euros for the month prepaid! Way faster than 3g sprint, kinda funny). They still have active development going on! Its awesome, I love the community! June 6th for the rom, then they've got a very nice froyo (and somewhat unstable gingerbread) in both nand flash or haret boot. Amazing. That and the wpa-supplicant ad-hoc hack for the epic and I'll be tethering my epic to the tp2, google voice and skype, ten euros prepaid internet and I'll be good to go! Did I mention I love the community?!
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iSaint said:
I know ... i'm on he fence ... there are so many douches on the 3vo forums
appearantly im a "wannabe mod"
so w/e ...
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Ya, getting the 3d on friday. But I've noticed to, to many a-holes on evo threads.
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iSaint said:
I know ... i'm on he fence ... there are so many douches on the 3vo forums
appearantly im a "wannabe mod"
so w/e ...
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I saw that post... I think everyone there will be a lot nicer once they actually get their phones.

readingkeeper said:
I saw that post... I think everyone there will be a lot nicer once they actually get their phones.
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They're already backordered (gives me an excuse not to be with them)... so im not getting it Samsung Within it is then ...

iSaint said:
They're already backordered (gives me an excuse not to be with them)... so im not getting it Samsung Within it is then ...
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I would wait, a little longer for better phone

davidrules7778 said:
I would wait, a little longer for better phone
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Yea i don't really have a choice now ... my mom spent the money i saved up for it ...
She said she'll pay for the Within.. so $200 and im guessing the Within will be more .. so im making interest

SamsungJohn is back

So SamsungJohn is back and since the Vibrant has not received an update to Gingerbread I think we might get a final answer as to whether not we are getting it.
(I honestly couldn't care less I'm happy with my phone but it would be nice to know for sure).
So SamsungJohn, do you have any information like you did with Froyo?

vibrant gets ICS in 2 days

reuthermonkey said:
vibrant gets ICS in 2 days
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screw ics, we're jumping straight to honey bun

bfranklin1986 said:
screw ics, we're jumping straight to honey bun
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Errr.... We're getting Mold Bread
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sahil04 said:
So SamsungJohn is back and since the Vibrant has not received an update to Gingerbread I think we might get a final answer as to whether not we are getting it.
(I honestly couldn't care less I'm happy with my phone but it would be nice to know for sure).
So SamsungJohn, do you have any information like you did with Froyo?
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Wait how do you know he's back has he been posting lately?

xriderx66 said:
Wait how do you know he's back has he been posting lately?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1291758

sahil04 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1291758
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Yea sorry to burst your bubble, but im pretty sure his big announcements are going to be to announce upcoming nexus devices.
I doubt we are going to see an official Gingerbread release for the vibrant because it doesnt just pop up over night, an official release require extensive testing, the likes of which usually result in leaks or at the very least somewhat substantiated rumors. If you recall in our wait for Froyo we saw countless leaks over the span of several months.
I for one cannot wait to see the announcement for the prime and other nexus devices. Im through with carrier branded devices.

shreddintyres said:
Yea sorry to burst your bubble, but im pretty sure his big announcements are going to be to announce upcoming nexus devices.
I doubt we are going to see an official Gingerbread release for the vibrant because it doesnt just pop up over night, an official release require extensive testing, the likes of which usually result in leaks or at the very least somewhat substantiated rumors. If you recall in our wait for Froyo we saw countless leaks over the span of several months.
I for one cannot wait to see the announcement for the prime and other nexus devices. Im through with carrier branded devices.
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Oh I already know that the big announcement is probably in relation to the upcoming Nexus device. What I was talking about is post #15 where he says:
Thanks Chainfire, please do stay in touch. As for me, I'm going to check out some of the XDA Samsung forums and see what's been going on.
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Vibrant is a Samsung device so I thought he'd come in here and people might be interested in getting a definitive answer whether or not the Vibrant will be getting updated or not from a legit source.

sahil04 said:
Vibrant is a Samsung device so I thought he'd come in here and people might be interested in getting a definitive answer whether or not the Vibrant will be getting updated or not from a legit source.
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Ah my bad, i only read the first page :x lol

I got his attention:
SamsungJohn,
I'm not meaning to harrass you at all, but is there any way you could shed some light on whether or not the Samsung Vibrant will be getting a gingerbread update?
It has been in question for a long time now, seeing as the other SGS devices got it... we are all kind of wondering why it was left in the dust. I mean, Gingerbread improves on the CPU the Vibrant is equipped with, bringing it to its full potential more-so than Froyo.
I, and many others purchased the phone on a 2 year contract with updates in mind. Its only a year old phone, it seems kind of rude that it has already been abandoned (if that is the case) I know you don't make all the decisions there at Samsung, but If you can see it from our point of view, could you maybe speak with someone that does have control over the situation?
I love the Hardware, beautiful screen, and Samsung in general... But please John, tell them they are going to lose future customers if they drop phones after such a short amount of time. It irritates people who bought a phone with the SGS label, and already people are seeing it as inferior to device to those of the same timeframe, such as the G2... Because HTC has kept the phone updated and their customers happy, Many of them will return to HTC for their next device.
Thanks for your time, and being a part of this community.
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His Response:
Hello imitebewrong,
I haven't heard anything about the update for the Vibrant. As soon as I get some valuable information I will let you know.
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Seriously I'm not hoping anymore, I'll just be disappointed anyway.
I just hope we'll be have a port of custom rom ICS.

Why don't you guys just use this as a freaking learning lesson. Don't purchase anymore Samsung phones (exception Samsung made Nexus).

SamsungVibrant said:
Don't purchase anymore Samsung phones (exception Samsung made Nexus).
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Way to contradict yourself.

SamsungVibrant said:
Why don't you guys just use this as a freaking learning lesson. Don't purchase anymore Samsung phones (exception Samsung made Nexus).
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Lol! Samsung is quality and there notches above everyone else and everyone knows that. Plus we have XDA for updates in my opinion
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Maybe your energy should be focused at Tmobile, who had proven track record of not providing updates.
I do believe that going with non carrier based phones is the correct track.
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SamsungVibrant said:
Why don't you guys just use this as a freaking learning lesson. Don't purchase anymore Samsung phones (exception Samsung made Nexus).
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No.
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I am not sure what SamsungJohn's official title or job is but he is certainly not in customer relations. He has never given a decent straight forward answer. I almost think I would rather have a lower quality phone that gets updates than a high quality hardware phone that never gets updated.
I love my phone but not releasing updates has made me think my next phone and tablet will not be a Samsung device. I have a 2.2.1 wifi Galaxy Tab that has never seen an update and a Vibrant with only one update. And to be fair, the update to FroYo on the Vibrant was something that it should have shipped with to begin with. To compound the issue we get no response or time frames on any updates. That is just horrible customer service.

Thanks for the hardworking of T-mobile or Samsung,
I wont get any Android products without "Nexus" in their ass

I will stay with T-mobile because it suits my current needs. 2 lines $130, unlimited un-throttled data on both; but I will never buy another phone that is not Nexus.
I almost rather be the douche with an Iphone, know it's being locked down, have less features, etc, but know I will have a working gps and support in 6 months. Being able to make calls....well they are all just holding the phone wrong anyway.

adamcooks said:
Maybe your energy should be focused at Tmobile, who had proven track record of not providing updates.
I do believe that going with non carrier based phones is the correct track.
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I'm really not sure when people are going to get it. It's Tmobile to blame, not Samsung.