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I read in another forum that they thought rooting of the AT&T Captivate is unlikely, due to its difference from Galaxy S, and that AT&T would prevent that.
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unlikely....but until someone versed in the skill of rooting gets his hands on the Captivate, it's all speculation i.e. pointless.
I don't think it will make much difference. Sure, ATT tends to lock their devices down... But, that is normally on a general user basis. Think about the iCrap - they were still able to be jailbroken, etc.
If a method of "Root" is found for any of the Galaxy S devices I would think that same method would work on all of them.
However, this is just my opinion and like the previous post stated - until we get one in hand we can't be 100% sure.
As far as the Captivate being a lot different from the other Galaxy S devices... Samsung is pushing to have a "Galaxy S" device on all carriers and in 110 countries. There will most likely be some small differences among the devices. However, it wouldn't seem likely that they would be different enough that one ROM couldn't be used for several different models. Take a look at what CyanogenMod did with their ROM's - slight differences allow for them to be used on two HTC devices and the Motorola Droid. Most Desire/N1 ROMS are almost interchangeable.
If the Galaxy S is anywhere NEAR as successful as Samsung is hoping there will be a LOT of people wanting root and custom ROMS.
Galaxy S Rooted
www.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-s-rooted-it-aint-easy
Galaxy S rooted. Good new for Captivate...Hopefully.
The HTC Aria has already been rooted, too. So I don't expect it would take long for the Captivate. Wonder if the addition of the gyroscope would make things more difficult
Only other thing I'd like to see then after the root is a rom to load that is the original, in case of warranty needs.
I am torn between an AT&T Nexus One and a Captivate.
I want to stay with AT&T because the wife loves her iphone. The Captivate would be much cheaper via an upgrade but I dont think I want it if its not going to be able to be rooted.
I am going to wait a couple of weeks and see how the scene looks before jumping on it the first day its available.
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Only other thing I'd like to see then after the root is a rom to load that is the original, in case of warranty needs.
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the way I understand it. you create a backup during the rooting process. So you can restore to original.
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tysj said:
The HTC Aria has already been rooted, too. So I don't expect it would take long for the Captivate. Wonder if the addition of the gyroscope would make things more difficult
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It doesn't have a gyroscope. It has a "six-axis accelerometer" that acts like one. I don't think this is a significant change.
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It doesn't have a gyroscope. It has a "six-axis accelerometer" that acts like one. I don't think this is a significant change.
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Why are you trading up from N1 to Captivate? N1 is still a really good phone. i hear customization for this phone will take some time before it releases. it took nearly two month to release custom rom for Galaxy S the Euro Version. I think i might wait for the captivate until i there is a good rom to run on.
I also hear that samsung will prevent future updates. in the news froyo will be released but looking at the history of previous android samsung phones, they might not release the update and make customers buy a new equipment.
Also due to some driver encryption, only rom we can customize is the version samsung releases. I hope i am wrong about this cuz i want this phone. but i don't want to buy now and have a outdated phone six month later. Phones like N1 will have new custom rom every time goggle release an update. I also like to get a N1 but ATT version is so expensive.
Ummmm...has anyone forgotten that Samsung has been more cooperative and timely in releasing their kernel and driver source code than most (all?) of their competitors?
I present Exhibit 1 for the SGS:
http://opensource.samsung.com/reception/reception_main.do?searchValue=i9000&method=reception_search
Balthazar B said:
Ummmm...has anyone forgotten that Samsung has been more cooperative and timely in releasing their kernel and driver source code than most (all?) of their competitors?
I present Exhibit 1 for the SGS:
http://opensource.samsung.com/reception/reception_main.do?searchValue=i9000&method=reception_search
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yeah but this is for the i9000. US version is i897. Is this going to be compatible to US version?
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Why are you trading up from N1 to Captivate? N1 is still a really good phone. i hear customization for this phone will take some time before it releases. it took nearly two month to release custom rom for Galaxy S the Euro Version. I think i might wait for the captivate until i there is a good rom to run on.
I also hear that samsung will prevent future updates. in the news froyo will be released but looking at the history of previous android samsung phones, they might not release the update and make customers buy a new equipment.
Also due to some driver encryption, only rom we can customize is the version samsung releases. I hope i am wrong about this cuz i want this phone. but i don't want to buy now and have a outdated phone six month later. Phones like N1 will have new custom rom every time goggle release an update. I also like to get a N1 but ATT version is so expensive.
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I'm not gonna go off of what people have heard or baseless speculation. The N1 is really starting to piss me off with its crappy RF and now that I have my iPhone 4 I'm not liking the N1 too much so I'm hoping this device is going to be much better. I can deal with not having 2.2 right away and I think this phone will sell amazingly well and there will be lots of support official or not so I'm gonna take my chances.
The reason Samsung probably didn't update their previous Android devices is because they were utter crap and anyone buying them should have seen that coming. Why buy a phone that already has last gen hardware and expect to have the latest software?
I personally will be up at the crack of dawn heading to my att store which had a hard time confirming that it was actually going to be released sunday.
I do believe that there will be custom roms available and that for the most part they will be compatible with the various versions of the galaxy S. These samsung phones will probly be the hottest devices on the market for a while and I expect to see a good number of quality devs doing some wonderful things for these phones. Anythings possible with android hell I'm running FROYO on a old tilt
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I'm not gonna go off of what people have heard or baseless speculation. The N1 is really starting to piss me off with its crappy RF and now that I have my iPhone 4 I'm not liking the N1 too much so I'm hoping this device is going to be much better. I can deal with not having 2.2 right away and I think this phone will sell amazingly well and there will be lots of support official or not so I'm gonna take my chances.
The reason Samsung probably didn't update their previous Android devices is because they were utter crap and anyone buying them should have seen that coming. Why buy a phone that already has last gen hardware and expect to have the latest software?
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bs. the samsung i8910 which i have was and still is great hardware.. the camera is better than the galaxy.. it also has a flash.. the gps is better than the galaxy.. the cpu is slower 600 vs 1ghz but it is great harware.. just crappy symbian o.s.
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I personally will be up at the crack of dawn heading to my att store which had a hard time confirming that it was actually going to be released sunday.
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hehe good thing im wfh on sunday am and i live like 2 min away from the ATT COR store...i can drive by and see if there is a line...i think the iP4 is going back...
N1 is not even close to the Galaxy series I have a desire which has 64mb ram than an N1 and it still lags like a mofo. Side by side, desire rather dated seriously.
@ lgkahn Mega-pixels don't mean quality, just take a look at the '8mp' EVO CMOS camera... they're CRAP Any CMOS lens will be crap, hands down. If you want a REAL CCD camera get a real one they're sub $100
If there's a line then you shouldn't have waited. I walked in on Wednesday to a Little Rock store to see one, they offered to sell it to me right then & there but I needed to wait for my wife to make up her mind on what phone she wanted. She verified on Thursday with one of the San Antonio stores that sure, they'd sell it early so on Friday we walked in & walked out with the Captivate, no problem. Asking never hurts.
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I have the captivate... I just rooted it however there seems to be no roms out there for it yet... Also I notice that on my wife's Samsung Vibrant using Tmobile when she goes to teh Android market there are certain apps there but when i go to the android market on my captive using at&t i can't find the Mod Install location app or the apps 2 sd ap.... this is strange. anyone have any ideas
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I read in another forum that they thought rooting of the AT&T Captivate is unlikely, due to its difference from Galaxy S, and that AT&T would prevent that.
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I have my phone rooted, nandroided, AT&T bloatware removed, sideloading, and ready for a custom froyo ROM. Not many other phones have advanced this far, this quickly into their life cycle. I bet Captivate will be one of the first to get a Gingerbread ROM, if not from Samsung, then from the community, it certainly meets the hardware requirements. Without a locked down bootloader and an eFuse, Captivate (and all the Galaxy S siblings released thus far) are more hackable than their competition, not less.
So it appears that U.S. Cellular and Cellular South are getting their own Galaxy S Variants, the Samsung Mesmerize and the Samsung Showcase respectively. These both appear (from the press releases I only glanced at) to be following the Vibrant/Fascinate sort of form-factor.
Great news and all, given that Samsung has already flogged over 5 million Galaxy S Phones at this point, but it makes me wonder.
Given that we've already got a buttload of SGS variants now, and given that this has severely fragmented at least the "tweaker" level of customization on this platform it makes me wonder whether or not Samsung is really up to the task here.
Think about it. Though it would seem that Samsung would be best served by having a base build to work with, and leave carrier customization to separate teams, given what we've seen across the already existing lines of SGS phones it's already apparent that the carrier teams seem to be leading the horse by the mouth here. More variants would seem to merely make this aspect of the situation worse.
I am beginning to believe that it's these additional device launches (including the japanese launch of the SGS) are probably what is holding up 2.1 fixes and 2.2 being released. Still, this isn't entirely the case, given that T-Mobile is apparently the only carrier left that hasn't pushed some sort of attempt at a maintenance update. T-Mobile's track record with Android is somewhat legendary here (in a bad way).
Keep in mind however that I'm just mentioning this in passing because it's in my nature to be curious about such things. I'm generally quite happy with my Vibrant. Mostly lag-free without a lag fix, good signal, decent battery life, and finally a GPS that works well enough that I don't care it's still not "fixed". No thanks to T-Mobile though..YMMV...
I agree that 2 more devices probably wont help things. At least not until all these galaxy s boards get merged.
Its just getting ridiculous with all these slightly different devices on seperate boards. I figured this would be posted on the I9000 forums first. That can be said about many topics regarding galaxy s phones but it requires a lot of searching to find info.
Hey guys.
I'm buying a Samsung Galaxy S tomorrow and I was presented two choices: the 8 GB european I9000, unbranded, and a 16GB T-Mobile Vibrant (which comes with a free 16 GB SD card, for 32 GB total). Both are unlocked and the same price. 3G frequencies are the same, so I'm down to design and minor differences.
Which one you guys, who are by far more experienced with those models than me, think I should get? I don't know if I'm asking in the right forum, but I think it's kind of a general question right?
Is the T959 reliable to get 2.2 and the GPS fix and stuff? I think "update-wise" the i9000 would be a better choice, but I don't know.
Thanks for your attention!
So with the Vibrant unless a front facing camera is a big deal to you.
There are many good Froyo roms on it already with working GPS.
The issue is I don't think I feel confident enough on my skills to flash a custom ROM for the Vibrant. I'm kinda of even worried about rooting it, since I had bad experiences with flashing things before and bricking them (damn you, Nokia), so I was thinking about keeping it "original".
Would it still be the better choice even if I choose to keep the official ROM? I was kind of worried about the bloatware software there seems to be on the T-Mobile version, with Avatar and all these useless apps, and there's now way to get rid of them without rooting, so...
Where are you going to be using the device? What country/countries?
The I9000 has much better ergonomics, in my opinion. I own an I9000M and a T959D, and the three-button layout on the I9000 is FAR superior in terms of usability to the 4 button all-capacitive layout on the T959.
I don't care who you are and how agile you are, you spend a great deal of time fighting with inadvertent/wrong keypresses on the 4-button devices, with the Search button being a particularly bad offender.
The I9000 also comes with a working FM radio, front facing camera, and "generic" support from Samsung so you're not tied to a slow moving US carrier for updates (and they are the slowest in the world, just about, short of Canada).
The loss of 8gb internal storage is a bit of a hit, but it's not the end of the world, especially when you consider most other Android devices (HTC mostly) released in 2010 had like 2gb or less internal storage to start with, and they get along just fine.
That said, the T959 is still one heck of a device, looks a bit less like an iPhone thanks to not having the big button, and should "wear" a little better since all the buttons are under glass.
I'll be using it in Brazil, most of the time. Here we have the I9000B with DTV tuner and stuff but it's crazy expensive (double the price I'm paying to import a phone with all taxes paid, I mean... it's really out of question, and our carriers are doing awful stuff with it. Most notably, one of them removes Gmail and Google Maps).
I was thinking just about that, about hitting the capacitive buttons so often that usability would have a hit.
The updates coming straight from Samsung would be a nice advantage, then? since T-Mobile didn't even give a ETA for froyo yet, right?
Well, so I think I'll be going the I9000 way and buy a SD card to compensate the lsos of storage. You're great, guys. Thanks a lot for your help!
Neither, wait for the Nexus S
psp888 said:
Neither, wait for the Nexus S
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+1 . some good phones coming out soon.
I know there have been numerous similar threads but i would
really appreciate some quick help here.
I have a samsung galaxy s XEU region etc.
I never modded and i never intend to, i want everything official
and as safe as possible.
Even with gingerbread, i am a bit dissappointed with my phone.
Maybe it was the hype, but in any case, i am getting fed up with some lag, and some gps issues.
What i am wondering about is whether the galaxy s 2 will be one of the same, or whether you think that considering future android OS updates, and google's 18 months minimum of support guideline for manufacturers, this will be a durable/futureproof phone.
Are there any known faults like with the lag issue of galaxy s from the very begginning?
Is it worth updating now?
If you have something useful to say thank you, if not, get out of here
nesx87 said:
I know there have been numerous similar threads but i would
really appreciate some quick help here.
I have a samsung galaxy s XEU region etc.
I never modded and i never intend to, i want everything official
and as safe as possible.
Even with gingerbread, i am a bit dissappointed with my phone.
Maybe it was the hype, but in any case, i am getting fed up with some lag, and some gps issues.
What i am wondering about is whether the galaxy s 2 will be one of the same, or whether you think that considering future android OS updates, and google's 18 months minimum of support guideline for manufacturers, this will be a durable/futureproof phone.
Are there any known faults like with the lag issue of galaxy s from the very begginning?
Is it worth updating now?
If you have something useful to say thank you, if not, get out of here
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use the search
Read the reviews make your own mind up .
If you dont like SGS1 dont move to SGS2 as its a far superior phone and it needs superior users .
jje
Hi Guys,
Questions are:
1. would you still Buy SGS3, considering the sluggish/ delayed releases of Samsung firmwares? or
2. Are you happy with the time-frame of Software updates? or
3. Are you happy with Quality of Stock Roms?
people seem to get hung up on the updates, if the device is working prefcetly well without any issues why the need to update? some updates cause more issues than they are worth
If Samsung released one version of a phone and just made it a pentaband it would be easier to update (world phone). They are shooting themselves in the foot by releasing so many versions and not keeping up with updating them. As the saying goes don't put more on your plate than you can eat.
I'm depending on Firmware Updates because some Apps need ICS for beeing installed...
Agreed but for that you need near-bug-free Roms, in Samsung case, Rom quality evolve with time. when I say Quality, I mean software lag, security, TW Launcher integration, Hardware-software integration etc.
Richy99 said:
people seem to get hung up on the updates, if the device is working prefcetly well without any issues why the need to update? some updates cause more issues than they are worth
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Note is my third Samsung device (i8910 with Symbian, SGS2, Galaxy Note) and I don't complain about updating at all. Since I bought my Note in November 22, 2011 in Germany, I am receiveng regular updates exactly once a month. I am quite happy with Samsung right now. I don't even care about ICS because my device is running smooth with no bugs at all. I am actually scared to update to ICS, just to find out how many things will stop working.
man Samsung galaxy s III it's a next generation !
Who need old **** like Galaxy note or Galaxy s II
This is my first Samsung and my first android phone. I've been waiting to see how good the stock ICS rom is before I try out custom roms. That said, in principle, I'm not pleased with having Touchwiz on my phone, so I'll undoubtedly be trying an AOSP rom soon.
Well, the problem with software updates on phones are because of several factors:
1. Most phones of the same model use different cell standards (CDMA vs GSM) - solution: make all phones use both CDMA or GSM with all radio frequencies supported ie World Phone like the Droid 2 or iPhone 4S.
2. Eliminate carrier unique phones in the same model line, such as the Samsung Galaxy S original line (Fascinate, Vibrant, Epic 4G, Captivate, International version, etc.) for example.
3. Eliminate manufacturer skins (Sense, Touchwiz, MotoBlur, etc.) or at least make them less intrusive or a separate downloadable add on for people who want them.
4. Eliminate carrier bloat or at least make them also a separate package that can be pushed to the phone independent of the ROM firmware update
I might go iphone if they offer a bigger screen.
I actually had high hopes when I read the rumors about iPad mini, having 5in screen.
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Well, the problem with software updates on phones are because of several factors:
1. Most phones of the same model use different cell standards (CDMA vs GSM) - solution: make all phones use both CDMA or GSM with all radio frequencies supported ie World Phone like the Droid 2 or iPhone 4S.
2. Eliminate carrier unique phones in the same model line, such as the Samsung Galaxy S original line (Fascinate, Vibrant, Epic 4G, Captivate, International version, etc.) for example.
3. Eliminate manufacturer skins (Sense, Touchwiz, MotoBlur, etc.) or at least make them less intrusive or a separate downloadable add on for people who want them.
4. Eliminate carrier bloat or at least make them also a separate package that can be pushed to the phone independent of the ROM firmware update
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Why would you then pay 700 for a s25 from samjoung enterprises when crappie enterprises sells ****y1 for 250.
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Dear Agree with all points but about point 2, Samsung is competing with Apple and in doing so they tend to listen more to Carrier/ mobile operators, this leaves Samsung with a mess of having many devices for same Model. It could take time for Samsung to release 1 international phone for all regions.
adelmundo said:
Well, the problem with software updates on phones are because of several factors:
1. Most phones of the same model use different cell standards (CDMA vs GSM) - solution: make all phones use both CDMA or GSM with all radio frequencies supported ie World Phone like the Droid 2 or iPhone 4S.
2. Eliminate carrier unique phones in the same model line, such as the Samsung Galaxy S original line (Fascinate, Vibrant, Epic 4G, Captivate, International version, etc.) for example.
3. Eliminate manufacturer skins (Sense, Touchwiz, MotoBlur, etc.) or at least make them less intrusive or a separate downloadable add on for people who want them.
4. Eliminate carrier bloat or at least make them also a separate package that can be pushed to the phone independent of the ROM firmware update
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I have the UAE version of the Galaxy Note,updated it couple of weeks ago to the latest stock version through the kies, but the lag overall is still there,I have nothing against Samsung,we have two Galaxy Tabs 10.1 at home and just yesterday bought a Samsung RC520 lapatop,one great machine.
However I hate slow phones as my daily driver,and this one is by far the slowest I have ever owned,If I keep it will most probably get another Iphone for my daily use,but if sold will get the HTC One X,since I suspect that even MR.Samsung themselves do not have much confidence in the upcoming ICS to make the Note a better device.
I am surprised why you have Lag which you are forced to mention here, I hardly see any lag (not that much to consider selling it), maybe reflashing firmware might help you?
hagba said:
I have the UAE version of the Galaxy Note,updated it couple of weeks ago to the latest stock version through the kies, but the lag overall is still there,I have nothing against Samsung,we have two Galaxy Tabs 10.1 at home and just yesterday bought a Samsung RC520 lapatop,one great machine.
However I hate slow phones as my daily driver,and this one is by far the slowest I have ever owned,If I keep it will most probably get another Iphone for my daily use,but if sold will get the HTC One X,since I suspect that even MR.Samsung themselves do not have much confidence in the upcoming ICS to make the Note a better device.
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For me, the camera will decide my upgrade. I've had the S, S2, S2X, and now the Note.
I really like the S Pen so it would be hard to let go.
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whats wrong with samsung updates? there has been about 10 since I got the phone just before christmas, and ics is just round the corner?
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whats wrong with samsung updates? there has been about 10 since I got the phone just before christmas, and ics is just round the corner?
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Been hearing bout ics been just round the corner since december when it was promised in the first quater of 12. Well march is nearly done and i sure as hell dont see it.
At this stage if samsung fail to keep good their promise by the time my contract is up then i will switch to a different manufacturer. Maybe iphone or sony ericsson. Depends whats on the market at the time.
I dont know about anyone else but i have a feeling ics isnt going to hit the note for a long time yet so i do feel let down. An ics upgrade was one of the reasons why i chose the note.
GB runs smooth as silk on my Note, what does ICS really bring to the plate?
Going to take version .02, 03 etc...before any bugs get solved.
I'll wait and let the bleeding edge types see if it isn't stable.
I've had mine for 3 months and have already had 4 updates.
1. would you still Buy SGS3, considering the sluggish/ delayed releases of Samsung firmwares? or
2. Are you happy with the time-frame of Software updates? or
3. Are you happy with Quality of Stock Roms?
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1. I don't need smartphone with less than 5" screen and without stylus. I'm not happy with terrible long firmware releases. I hate samsung, but there is no other good smartphones at other manufactors...
2. No.
3. Yes.
Yes..
Now,i am very happy with my Galaxy Note but SGSIII may be a new attraction for me...