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Should I buy this phone?

Was wondering what's the track record of Samsung getting custom Roms/firmware?
I really like how XDA have developers to do custom ROMS for HTC phones but was wondering does Samsung phones gets same treatment? Or will be looking at far and few in between updates from Samsung itself and won't be able to update to the latest and greatest?
Really want Nexus One but the Galaxy S is sooooooooo much better *sigh*

Can't answer your question on whether the Samsung will get the same amount of Dev time that has been lavished on the HTC phones, but I was in the same situation as yourself - Galaxy S or Nexus One.
I came down on the side of the Galaxy S simply because it's a better phone all round. There's a multi-touch vid on youtube comparing the responsiveness of the screens, and the Galaxy wiped the floor with the Nexus One. I'm hoping that the popularity of this phone will mean that the Devs on here will start giving some time to the Galaxy S.
I must admit I was initially drawn towards the Nexus One because of excellent work that has been done by the likes of Cyanogen et al, but I took the long term view that surely the same must eventually happen with the Galaxy S. *crosses fingers*

For the Galaxy, there is MoDaCo. For the Galaxy Spica, there is Samdroid. Don't know much about the others, but they weren't released here in Europe anyway.
I followed Samdroid a while, thinking about getting a Spica. There are some awesome things going on there - they even tried to modify the touchscreen sensor, because the hardware does support multitouch, but the driver doesn't. AFAIK, they had no success, but still nice try. And they even opened a board for the Galaxy S, maybe Leshak fetches one and works some magic there in the future. If not, I am pretty sure somebody will.

If you want to customize it to run the latest roms, the question is: how "open" is this device?
I know that HTC made the Desire a pain in the butt to unlock/root, and they will improve this with every new phone the make, making them more and more secure and block customized images.
Is Samsung going to follow the same strategy?

I think you're right Magicdroid, the question would be how open this is. But even though the Desire was a pain to root, it HAD been rooted just cos there's lots of developers. When there are lots of developers, you'll get rooted device
I wonder if the Galaxy S will get lots of user base.............I just hope lots and lots of ppl will pick it up and then the chance of longetivity with custom ROMS dramatically increases....

I'm hopoing for good community support as well. I have an AT&T Tilt, and have doen well on the XDA site. I'm spoiled
I am very interested in the Galaxy S, but I"m on At&T, and the AT&T version i keep reading about doesn't have the same specs. So having to wait and see on that.
Also, I see a lot of negative feedback on Samsung support, and based on their previous Android phone (Behold I think it's called) is not getting an upgrade. Lots of complaints about being abandonded by Samsung.
Not sure what I'll do. If At&T doesn't get decent phones soon, I mahy have to look do Verizon.
Sorry...I'm rambling off topic.
The Galaxy S looks like a great piece of hardware.

MarvinTheAndroid said:
There's a multi-touch vid on youtube comparing the responsiveness of the screens, and the Galaxy wiped the floor with the Nexus One.
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Hilarious! I just found it and laughed so much http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVlsRCMltDg
I was considering to buy a Nexus, but now I changed my mind...someday this mobile will hopefully get root and give enough space for customizations of every kind...just wait and see - it will come in the mid of June to Europe and I'm eager to hold one in my hands

I'm disciplining myself to not get this phone until there's a good team of developers move to it to get customizations going
aaahhh the wait the wait......

and, do you have one jet? the best mod is doctorz rom. it runs very smooth

God damn it. Did you sign up just to necro a thread that's over A YEAR AND A HALF old?

Is there going to be custom ROMS for Galaxy S?

Galaxy S is a wonderful phone with many-many hardware advantages but with one major disadvantage, and it's called Samsung Software Support.
I really like this phone but I believe that Froyo will be the last update that Samsung is going to give, so i believe that the only hope of this phone is custom Roms
Nexus One have great cookers like to support it. Does anyone have the intention to do the same thing for Galaxy S?

If you are worried about that, then don't buy the Galaxy S now. Wait a month or two and see how it looks then?
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Thats what I'm going to do, I don't plan to buy it now, but I have my eye on it and I didnt find any info on the subject, so I made this thread.

hey m8, i know how "Bad" samsung support is and I don't wanna disagree with your opinion but seriously, what major improvements to you want? ginger bread? has it even been stated what ginger bread will improve? for now 2.1 and 2.2 will be good.... and I don't even keep the same phone for longer than 1-2 years, technology improves to fast, phones get slimmer and nicer.
you get my point this is the best out there, take it enjoy it hack it but dont plan on keeping it for a decade.

Well, correct me if I'm wrong, google said that in the next 6 months is going to amaze us. I believe that mean gingerbread.
I also believe that google has many innovations to show us with android so an upgradeable device is necessary.

Desvbo said:
hey m8, i know how "Bad" samsung support is and I don't wanna disagree with your opinion but seriously, what major improvements to you want? ginger bread? has it even been stated what ginger bread will improve? for now 2.1 and 2.2 will be good.... and I don't even keep the same phone for longer than 1-2 years, technology improves to fast, phones get slimmer and nicer.
you get my point this is the best out there, take it enjoy it hack it but dont plan on keeping it for a decade.
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True, true, but i mean at the very least some common and very easy bug fixes and stuff. I own the Omnia II and the only bug fixes come from cookers and very very few ppl who has privileged access to samsung new roms (and they "won't" tell where they get it from, so prolly insider roms imo).
By the way, what's that "amazing" thing google has announced??? hardware or software??

i think the "bad support" by samsung is exaggerated by people...
i would not call it bad support, if samsung releases updates to add the following long after the release of the phone (they could have said "we already got your money ... bad luck for you"):
they fixed photocontacts, then after it was fixed they changed photocontacts because people did not like the way it worked (but it worked nontheless)...
what company would change something after they just fixed it so it is not broken anymore ? that is really bad support, to hear the wishes and likes of how things should work (even if they are currently not broken).
then they gave us kinetic scrolling .. something that was never even mentioned as feature for the phone in the first place ...
i think its just greedy people who spend some money on a phone and now expect the manufacturer to keep it updated forever so it is always the best with all features that even where not invented when the phone initially was released ... go to work, earn some dollars and buy a new phone instead of expecting a company (whos target is to make money) to spend money just so you have the finest things for free without giving a dime for it and after that the spoilt users will still moarn that they did not get unlimited updates for free

If you check out their open source website, you will find Galaxy S' Kernel and driver. I'm not custom ROM developer, and dose not know about that well.
However, other XDA member said that this is enough to port other ROMs such as Sense UI.
According to Samsung Mobile twitter, Froyo will come 100%. Ginger-Bread is not clear.
I will buy Galaxy S. More people means More support from home cooker.

Gingerbread is going to come out next year. Google said they are going to only release an Android update once a year now. No one even knows what Gingerbread is going to offer next year so why worry about an update? Enjoy it now and enjoy it more when it gets Froyo.

DKYang said:
Gingerbread is going to come out next year. Google said they are going to only release an Android update once a year now. No one even knows what Gingerbread is going to offer next year so why worry about an update? Enjoy it now and enjoy it more when it gets Froyo.
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Agreed lol!
the 2.1 on the sammy seems VERY usable, yes forever, not just for a year, because it has nearly everything we would need.
the more you get, the more you want.
I question whether people actually sit down and think. Some say "no 2.2 froyo = a failure".. while before it was "no 2.1 = a failure".. and before that no "1.6 = a failure". it's a foolish never ending cycle of wanting more more more even though each version is fully usable.
seriously what kind of comment is that, the phone has everything almost, even if it doesn't according to the person, it has enough for us to use it as a phone and camera and internet and mp3/video.
I hope people will realize what is on the sammy is enough (unless you want to install themes only that's cool).

Obviously not indicative of whether or not the GS will get Gingerbread, but as for bug fixes Samsung are apparently releasing GS firmware updates in Singapore:
http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showthread.php?t=2781948&page=95
From my own limited experience, there were several firmware updates for the Omnia I as well, although never an official upgrade from WinMo 6.1 to to 6.5 even though the phone could run it just fine (probably because they wanted to sell Omnia II instead).

Well, that's what i mean. I also had omnia, it's a very good phone that never got win6.5 officially even though it could.
That's what i'm afraid of with galaxy.
I expect many innovations with every new version of android so it would like to be able to have it in Galaxy s if im going to be an owner.
Lets hope that a great cooker is heading this way

Well, concerning Samsung's support, I'm pretty sure it's not going to be that bad. Samsung released Android 2.1 for the Galaxy Spica way before HTC has released Android 2.1 for the Hero. It's got a bed rep because of the way they handle the Behold I and II in the US and some Windows Mobile phones, and that's because they apparently don't want to support phones that haven't sold well (and probably because they have to pay for the Qualcomm drivers). Because the Galaxy S is probably going to be rather popular with its worldwide release and runs on Samsung's own hardware, I do think Samsung will supply us with an update, at least to Android 2.2.
As for ROM development: Samsung has provided us with the complete source of Android running on the Galaxy S, so it should be perfectly possible to develop ROMs once the device is rooted (which could even be accomplished with the HTC Incredible) and a bootloader can be used for it. At least, that's how far I've understood it.

DCKing said:
Well, concerning Samsung's support, ..... It's got a bed rep because of the way they handle the Behold I and II in the US and some Windows Mobile phones. .....
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Their Symbian phones didn't get the same love as well. I am afraid this is not restricted to one part of the world or one phone or two. It's just Samsung providing almost perfect hardware and crappy software.
The orphan approach is what Samsung keep doing. While, the community suppose to be the one adopting Samsung projects. This kinda lame and I really hate it.
Anyway, back to the topic (somehow).
Does anyone of you heard any news about Samsung Galaxy S Pro?
I am trying to hold for 1 month or two before getting my Android and I am not the type who changes his phone according to a season or his pair of shoes.
Hopefully, the keyboard version comes sooner than latter.

The next thing to wow us is probably gonna be phones with screens that can produce 3D effects

Probably not a good idea to compare how Samsung treats phones with an OS, they have/had to pay for(WM and Sybian) with one that's free(Android). Upgrading those payed for OS' might be much more expensive than the free OS. The higher the cost the less likely anyone would wanna upgrade, no?
Personally I think this is kinda silly. Is there any mobile manufacturer that has a really good trackrecord(aside from possibly Apple)? Seems people moan about the support, or lack of, from all of them...
Regards

Silverdragondk said:
Probably not a good idea to compare how Samsung treats phones with an OS, they have/had to pay for(WM and Sybian) with one that's free(Android). Upgrading those payed for OS' might be much more expensive than the free OS. The higher the cost the less likely anyone would wanna upgrade, no?
Personally I think this is kinda silly. Is there any mobile manufacturer that has a really good trackrecord(aside from possibly Apple)? Seems people moan about the support, or lack of, from all of them...
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I think HP used to produce quick update for windows mobile devices. However, they are charging for the update. That for windows 2003se to WM5.
I have bad experience with HTC. They take forever to update.
Another phone I have is O2 XDA mini. I never have any update since the device release.

Silverdragondk said:
Probably not a good idea to compare how Samsung treats phones with an OS, they have/had to pay for(WM and Sybian) with one that's free(Android). Upgrading those payed for OS' might be much more expensive than the free OS. The higher the cost the less likely anyone would wanna upgrade, no?
[3]Personally I think this is kinda silly. Is there any mobile manufacturer that has a really good trackrecord(aside from possibly Apple)? Seems people moan about the support, or lack of, from all of them...
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1- It called Symbian
2- It is open source = Free = Your argument isn't valid for it
3- Agree

S.p.x. said:
1- It called Symbian
2- It is open source = Free = Your argument isn't valid for it
3- Agree
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regardless of the fact i see no reason for them not to upgrade to gingerbread i doubt very serious there would be much hardship, also knowing me if/when this come to t-mobile and i get it i know it will be rooted so im not worrying about updates on a company end.

S.p.x. said:
1- It called Symbian
2- It is open source = Free = Your argument isn't valid for it
3- Agree
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1 - Apologies. I guess I didn't really press the "m" when I typed Symbian.
2 - It wasn't always, which is why I wrote "have/had" and included it. I don't even know, if Symbian was free when Samsung used it in the Omnia HD...
3 - Good!
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Samsung Captivate officially announced for AT&T

AT&T officially announced that the Samsung Captivate, AT&T's version of the Galaxy S, is coming soon. They haven't released an official date of price as of yet, but the good thing is that AT&T is finally getting a good android phone with specs that are current and not already a year old.
http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/devices/samsung-captivate.jsp

More to oogle over:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/22/exclusive-samsung-captivate-for-atandt-preview/
Although it's just an test model

tysj said:
More to oogle over:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/22/exclusive-samsung-captivate-for-atandt-preview/
Although it's just an test model
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the fact that their preview unit had a non-hummingbird 800mhz core and was notably sluggish has me a little worried.
so long as there isnt some sort of bait and switch and the final product keeps the hummingbird, then so be it... i am just curious why the 200mhz drop makes such a difference (i know the chipset is part of it, but still).
we shall see. but between it being in the wild and possible root access (to certain kernels) already, im pretty excited.

*nevermind*

I am getting one
Can't wait for them to release it.

I'm glad I found out about it, I almost got an Aria. But this... it's just badass. I have to have it.

I too am holding off on getting an Aria until I learn more about the Captivate. Problem is I've read from many people on various sites and forums that:
1) Samsung's build quality isn't as good as HTC
2) Samsung does have a history of NOT updating their Android devices, where as HTC has said all 2010 phones will get Froyo
I'd LOVE to get the Captivate, but if it's not going to get updates then I'd rather have a phone that does. Sure I could root and hack the rom with a 2.2 rom but that comes with its own set of potential issues.

mkoby said:
I too am holding off on getting an Aria until I learn more about the Captivate. Problem is I've read from many people on various sites and forums that:
1) Samsung's build quality isn't as good as HTC
2) Samsung does have a history of NOT updating their Android devices, where as HTC has said all 2010 phones will get Froyo
I'd LOVE to get the Captivate, but if it's not going to get updates then I'd rather have a phone that does. Sure I could root and hack the rom with a 2.2 rom but that comes with its own set of potential issues.
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I'd be willing to bet the next build of Android after Froyo will be available by the end of the year or early next year, so Froyo will be old news by this time next year. I plan to at least root my Captivate when I get it, and let's face it, I'll probably flash it. I mean, what's the point of an open-source OS if you're afraid to take advantage of it and mod it? User customizations are kind of the biggest selling point of open-source aren't they? Might as well get an iPhone if you want to wait for official updates. Just my 2 cents.

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I'd be willing to bet the next build of Android after Froyo will be available by the end of the year or early next year, so Froyo will be old news by this time next year. I plan to at least root my Captivate when I get it, and let's face it, I'll probably flash it. I mean, what's the point of an open-source OS if you're afraid to take advantage of it and mod it? User customizations are kind of the biggest selling point of open-source aren't they? Might as well get an iPhone if you want to wait for official updates. Just my 2 cents.
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I understand your point. I use Linux daily so I'm up on Open Source software.
But it's been my experience that sometimes waiting for official updates is better than hacking the device yourself. Now, with that said, I will probably almost certainly at some point root, flash, and hack on the device.
I'd personally like to know that Samsung intends to "futureproof" (for lack of a better word) their latest devices with official updates (unlike the past). To me offering official OS updates when they become available shows that a company cares about it's customers and isn't just ignoring the updates in hopes that they'll upgrade to the latest $200 device they just released.

mkoby said:
I understand your point. I use Linux daily so I'm up on Open Source software.
But it's been my experience that sometimes waiting for official updates is better than hacking the device yourself. Now, with that said, I will probably almost certainly at some point root, flash, and hack on the device.
I'd personally like to know that Samsung intends to "futureproof" (for lack of a better word) their latest devices with official updates (unlike the past). To me offering official OS updates when they become available shows that a company cares about it's customers and isn't just ignoring the updates in hopes that they'll upgrade to the latest $200 device they just released.
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Agreed. I've also heard bad things in the past about Samsung's updates, or lack thereof. But I think in the case of the Captivate, it will also fall on At&t's shoulders to provide and distribute the update, would it not?

tonyc0642 said:
Agreed. I've also heard bad things in the past about Samsung's updates, or lack thereof. But I think in the case of the Captivate, it will also fall on At&t's shoulders to provide and distribute the update, would it not?
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it will be a joint effort on both of their parts, yes.
there is a lot of burned customers in the samsung camp after they repeatedly screwed them by promising updates and then not delivering, so i get the apprehension and avoidance there. personally, though, with a device this nice i will definitely be flashing a custom ROM.
i find no need to lock myself out of features or deal with unnecessary carrier bloatware if i dont have to, and i much prefer the design of most custom ROMs. in this light, people that follow suit will not really be at samsung/att's mercy for updates... so long as there is custom dev support, there will be new updates to install.
that being said, to jump on this device and this carrier with no plans to flash custom ROMs could be considered a gamble, given both of their track records with android... but, from what has been seen, this could be a fresh approach to the OS and sammy/att might do just fine.
i guess we'll see... im just not letting the decision rest in their hands, personally.

Does anyone know if the final build of the phone will have LED flash for camera?
This looks like a great phone to buy. I have unlimited net on my ATT plan so i would love to upgrade from my FUZE to Captivate.

willthebill said:
Does anyone know if the final build of the phone will have LED flash for camera?
This looks like a great phone to buy. I have unlimited net on my ATT plan so i would love to upgrade from my FUZE to Captivate.
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all press and images so far indicate that it does NOT have flash NOR a front facing camera, unfortunately :/
the up swing on the camera is that is has good quality and good accessible settings, as well as a night mode for well lit shots in dark environments.
there is another thread about the camera and flash around here with comparison shots between regular and night mode and it is pretty impressive.

I could be wrong, but I don't think AT&T does much in providing updates.
I'm on an old AT&T Tilt, (and an anxious for the Captivate), and have gone down the ROM route (of course this is WinMO), and after messing with 3=4 different highly touted rom builds, I ultimately ended up on the original ROM. Seems custom flashes quite often, well, for the ones I picked anyway, ended up with the developer moving on.
So I am hoping that Samsung supports this. I don't hold much hope for getting updates from AT&T. It would be interesting if others inform us that AT&T does better than I expect.

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all press and images so far indicate that it does NOT have flash NOR a front facing camera, unfortunately :/
the up swing on the camera is that is has good quality and good accessible settings, as well as a night mode for well lit shots in dark environments.
there is another thread about the camera and flash around here with comparison shots between regular and night mode and it is pretty impressive.
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wow. i didnt even notice that it DIDNT have a front face camera....very disappointed now. I think i'll look for the Galaxy without ATT logo on it if the final build has no front face camera. I was willing to deal with the lack of flash because the built in 16gig memory chip. Now i know ATT will do all possible to cripple perfectly good phones and dumb down Android OS.
The only thing left is to wait and see what the final specs will be. If they cripple the phone more then i'll be switching over to Sprint and getting the modified Galaxy Pro.
*crossing fingers*

Theres a post in this same forum about "night mode" which will increase exposure and allow more light to reach the lens. It actually looks quite better than flash. Also, I have a front facing camera on my phone, and I only use it sometimes as a mirror. Do you have a better intended use for it? ATT doesn't have video calling, and new iphone doesnt have true video calls on it either.

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Theres a post in this same forum about "night mode" which will increase exposure and allow more light to reach the lens. It actually looks quite better than flash. Also, I have a front facing camera on my phone, and I only use it sometimes as a mirror. Do you have a better intended use for it? ATT doesn't have video calling, and new iphone doesnt have true video calls on it either.
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Yeah, those night pics in that post look pretty nice. I'm hoping as long as you're not taking a picture in total blackness, it won't be too bad.
The lack of a front camera is disappointing, but I'm guessing that true videoconferencing won't be a reality till we get LTE, which probably won't be widespread till late 2011/early 2012, so I'll just wait till the next generation phone to do so.
My biggest worry is AT&T crippling the phone, and not just software-wise; I got a Nokia E71x after I lost my E71. The AT&T version got rid of the onboard FM radio, and prevented reprogramming the buttons. The Galaxy S has FM radio, if they delete it from the Captivate, I'm taking my business elsewhere.

caelestis2 said:
Theres a post in this same forum about "night mode" which will increase exposure and allow more light to reach the lens. It actually looks quite better than flash. Also, I have a front facing camera on my phone, and I only use it sometimes as a mirror. Do you have a better intended use for it? ATT doesn't have video calling, and new iphone doesnt have true video calls on it either.
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http://www.wireless.att.com/learn/messaging-internet/media-entertainment/attvideoshare.jsp
It's not about true video calling through the carrier. The OS provides apps that will allow you to use video chat no matter the device/carrier you're contacting. That's why it's a bit crazy that they'll remove it.
P.S.
This is the first ATT branded phone i'm actually excited about getting since 2005 lol. I actually bought the FUZE from ebay just because it was $200 on ebay last year.

cant wait for this to come out! def gonna be in line for one haha

willthebill said:
http://www.wireless.att.com/learn/messaging-internet/media-entertainment/attvideoshare.jsp
It's not about true video calling through the carrier. The OS provides apps that will allow you to use video chat no matter the device/carrier you're contacting. That's why it's a bit crazy that they'll remove it.
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This is the first ATT branded phone i'm actually excited about getting since 2005 lol. I actually bought the FUZE from ebay just because it was $200 on ebay last year.
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The video share thing is only with certain phones, I think they wont spend the investment to port it to galaxy s. It also only allows one way streaming. AT&T never thinks about us technical users, only non-technical consumers and from that standpoint since they don't have fully functional over the network video calling, why include a front camera?
iPhone's been out for a long time, thats why theres only crappy phones on ATT now. That's about to change thanks to adverts for droid forcing att into the fold.

This is why i'm going back to sammy

http://www.androidcentral.com/cyanogenmod-coming-galaxy-sii-thanks-samsung
As u can see Sammy is embracing the root community by giving a Dev that root phones there phone and telling them to do there thing. When all these other company's HTC included are locking down bootloaders Sammy says please make our device better. Plus the galaxy tab 2 is getting great reviews it looks like its going to be a sammy year for me .

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http://www.androidcentral.com/cyanogenmod-coming-galaxy-sii-thanks-samsung
As u can see Sammy is embracing the root community by giving a Dev that root phones there phone and telling them to do there thing. When all these other company's HTC included are locking down bootloaders Sammy says please make our device better. Plus the galaxy tab 2 is getting great reviews it looks like its going to be a sammy year for me .
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and htc isnt how?
http://www.htcdev.com/ all bootloaders have been signed and they where going to encrpyt them and now they arnt so congrats for samsung for being the biggest marketing people to get everyone to buy their POS products so enjoy your darker darks and your yellow whites on your sammy not trying to be a **** just putting my two cents out their and showing you but have fun on wiz cause thats what i wanna do on samsung haha

Until Samsung fixes their radio/GPS problems, I'll stick with HTC....

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Until Samsung fixes their radio/GPS problems, I'll stick with HTC....
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This, & Sammy gave the dev a GSM model, which doesn't mean **** for us CDMA users, & if you don't agree then just go ask the devs in the Epic forum who are still trying their damndest to get CM7 fully running while the Captivate & Vibrant both has been fully blessed by Cyanogen hisself.
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this thread is terrible.

Poor misinformed soul.....

It's a promising sign but I'm not sure I'm quite convinced that Samsung is trying to change their ways. Of course, we also have no proof that HTC is going to truly unlock their bootloaders either.

My experience with 3 stock Samsung Android phones on Sprint has left a bitter taste in my mouth.
1. I had the original "Moment" from day 1. Paid $475 for it and had nothing but problems.
2. My wife has the "Transform" (I gave Samsung a mulligan for the Moment since it was 1st generation....) -- big mistake, almost as crappy as the Moment.
3. My Daughter has the "Intercept" -- got it at the same time as the Transform (so I did not have a chance to see that the Moment was more a precursor to the craptastic to come rather than a "one off" mistake.
Even without rooting and romming -- the EVO is head and shoulders above any of the Samsung phones I have seen. As far as being able to actually use it without weird things happening.
Yes....I said it --- that is the downfall of Samsung phones...."Weird things happen at a very slow pace, and even doing basic things like making a phone call or sending a text becomes a huge undertaking."
Had I not known better (owning other Android devices) -- could have sworn that Samsung was trying to make Android look like a steaming, buggy, not ready for prime time, piece of crap OS....When in fact it is not that at all.
As a last desperate measure before purchasing my EVO....I rooted and installed a custom ROM on my Moment -- and it actually was a pretty good experience to turn it into a device I could at least make phone calls on and send texts (which was worlds above stock Moment -- even though the GPS no longer worked.) So I can at least thank Samsung for forcing me to discover the world of custom roms.

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That's a value added post if I ever saw one.
How is this not good news for the end user? A headset manufacturer giving the OK to one of the best developer teams to implement a highly popular custom ROM is a bad idea? Some people will never be happy.

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That's a value added post if I ever saw one.
How is this not good news for the end user? A headset manufacturer giving the OK to one of the best developer teams to implement a highly popular custom ROM is a bad idea? Some people will never be happy.
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It might be good news if said dev recieved a CDMA phone which is what the majority of people here would purchase. It really is irrevelent because he got a GSM phone, which really changes nothing.

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It might be good news if said dev recieved a CDMA phone which is what the majority of people here would purchase. It really is irrevelent because he got a GSM phone, which really changes nothing.
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Is a CDMA version of the phone even available yet?

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Is a CDMA version of the phone even available yet?
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That I don't know. Good question.

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Is a CDMA version of the phone even available yet?
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Official, no. Testing, yes. Samsung could easily give a CDMA developer the device, but it'll be discreet until the carrier announcement. This was a good move by Samsung, but don't forget about the Nexus One and EVO 4G. Classy move by Samsung, but nothing HTC haven't done before and more.
Sent from the EVO 3D with Sprint.

Samsung is the most aggressive smartphone manufacturer right now (giving phones to dev is just a brilliant PR move if nothing else).
This ain't no Epic. SG2 marks a new era for Samsung. I've had it for 2 weeks now (with my EVO) leading up to what would have been my pending EVO 3D purchase... which will likely morph into a Sprint Within purchase at this point.
Obviously 'user experience' is highly subjective...but it seems unlikely the 3D will match this rooted, stripped SG2 experience I'm enjoying now. Fiercely fast...brilliant multimedia performance...at least compared to the 4G..

rockky said:
Samsung is the most aggressive smartphone manufacturer right now (giving phones to dev is just a brilliant PR move if nothing else).
This ain't no Epic. SG2 marks a new era for Samsung. I've had it for 2 weeks now (with my EVO) leading up to what would have been my pending EVO 3D purchase... which will likely morph into a Sprint Within purchase at this point.
Obviously 'user experience' is highly subjective...but it seems unlikely the 3D will match this rooted, stripped SG2 experience I'm enjoying now. Fiercely fast...brilliant multimedia performance...at least compared to the 4G..
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Very subjective, but I fail to agree that the 3D rooted and optimized fails to match, especially when noone has even touched the phone. The specs are too good on it not to be one of the best phones of the year, and rooted and optimized is only icing on the cake.

How is the screen on the 3d compared to a super amoled. I tried reading specs but have no idea what they mean. I just wanna be able to actually see my phone when I'm outside.

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Very subjective, but I fail to agree that the 3D rooted and optimized fails to match, especially when noone has even touched the phone. The specs are too good on it not to be one of the best phones of the year, and rooted and optimized is only icing on the cake.
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Yeah, hope your right..really do. To me it comes down to the camera quality and video quality...cause other than that the only thing it has going thats appreciatively better than my rooted gingerbread 4G!...is pixel density and that its faster.
To me the dealbreaker is how much better are its multimedia capabilities...(2D..not 3D)...cause this things (GS2) is crystalclear brilliant!

I think it's funny that Samsung can't make good software for their own phones, so they want someone else to do it for them. And for basically nothing.

Stuke00 said:
I think it's funny that Samsung can't make good software for their own phones, so they want someone else to do it for them. And for basically nothing.
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Ignorance..

Stuke00 said:
I think it's funny that Samsung can't make good software for their own phones, so they want someone else to do it for them. And for basically nothing.
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Cheap ****s
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[Q] no official ics for samsung i9000??

Samsung hasnt confirmed that there would be a official android 4.0 update for samsung i9000. So does this mean we will not get it as a official update? Cuz there is alot of other samsung phones that have been confirmed.

The SGS is almost 2 yrs old,so I'm assuming Samsung might have given up on us.But then again,till it's confirmed,nobody can know for sure.Besides,even if the official ICS for SGS is out,we're gonna end using the custom ROM anyway
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Maybe if we make a few more threads about this we will get an answer? We're probably only 10-20 more threads away if we just keep at it.

Hopefully Samsung hears the pleads of i9000 users and gives us an official update so the devs have a Easyer time giving us the roms.
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I will look forward to getting an official answer to this question.. but SlvrWolf~XP makes a good point...

It will probably be unlikely for Samsung to update our Galaxy S i9000 to ICS since we've already gotten update TWICE (not many phone brand and models got such privilege, Eclair > Froyo > GingerBread). And Samsung may want to make both Galaxy S I and S II (with Nexus S) differentiated so that more people are encouraged to buy the newer phones...

I think SGS will not get ICS
Read today info from Samsung Mobile https://www.facebook.com/notes/sams...ch-upgrade-for-galaxy-devices/328795820483403

Yeah, they just announced on twitter too, seems like Galaxy S is not in the update list.
Well, a port from ICS on the Nexus S should work just fine.
I wonder what their reasons are for not updating the Galaxy S, obviously it's not platform limitations since the Nexus S got it, shame on Samsung, hope they loose lots of costumers .
(BTW I have a Nexus S but I'm pissed for Samsung's attitude!)

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shame on Samsung, hope they loose lots of costumers .
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Things is who are they going to lose customers to? HTC and Motorola phones from early-mid 2010 aren't going to get it either. The answer for updates is to get a Nexus phone from...oops.
The whole landscape of branded devices sucks not just Samsung, but I guess 'the grass is always greener' and people will just move to another manufacturer with little or no research into the facts of whether they are actually better for updates or not. If we take a look:
Moto announced a list of devices...not even the Atrix dual-core phone released in early 2011 was included, although it may be added. Anything from 2010 you can probably forget it.
On the HTC side the phone that came out at the same time as the SGS, at least around here, was the Desire. They had a heck of a time getting gingerbread to run on that apparently, ICS is probably out of the question, so no improvement there.
Basically anywhere I look only phones released within the last year are getting ICS officially. The grass isn't always greener, although I suspect many will jump over the fence without taking a very close look. Again the only real answer is a Nexus, unfortunately this iteration is a bit disappointing so myself I'm going to try and hold out for the next one although I admit at this point a year seems very far away.

and think of it from a business POV st's not good business practice to have complete support for an old platform, I mean look at MS the ONLY reason they still support XP is because of businesses, though that's slipping away furthermore 2 year contracts are common place for phones nowadays due to most being smartphone related so people who own the SGS back in 2010 are now due for an upgrade anyway so it won't bother the main bulk of consumers.
Personally I'm planning on waiting it out for the SGSIII so regardless the i9000 gets it for most is irrelevant.

Not a surprise for me and I don’t care what Sammy is doing.
Long live CM9

Well the thing is not other do... the thing is Galaxy S is still with a shi#y firmware after all this time. Not even on its "death" there is not a stock rom to make it perform as it should. Cmon' take a look at CM7... now imagine a Samsung built ROM based on it, even with all that crappy TouchWiz.. great camera, 720p recording, great battery life, fast as light.
Now... how can I buy another phone from them, knowing that maybe it will never work as it should. When SGS was released everybody said how fast it is, king of the hill... wth, it was crawling... Unfortunately, Samsung has Gorilla glass, has Amoled, low prices.... HTC has gread build quality, no Gorilla, no low prices, high performance....

Very disappointed by Samsung.
This is a high end device released in 2010 and already abandoned.
The S1 is perfectly compatible with ICS, this is pure business, or how to force
people to buy a new phone they don't need. Planned obsolescence, just like apple (but even Apple or HTC offer better software support...)
Of course there will be unofficial roms, but imho it's never the same quality as an official one.
Next time i'll choose an official google nexus device.

Samsung forgot his smart baby snif
Cyano is here, fortunatly, to give GS1 users a good Ics experience

Samsung lost me as a customer if they choose not to update the SGS. I've already said I'll never buy a Samsung phone in the past because of their lack of support and lack of timely updates, but this now goes to anything Samsung.
I have a Samsung laptop and a Samsung TV, both of which I'll be replacing with a newer model in the coming weeks, but now those replacements will not be Samsung models.
I wouldn't be upset if there was a hardware compatibility issue like lack of memory, but there isn't.
It's perfectly capable. As for this 18 month thing, fine. Let them use that. But my i9000m only has 2.3.3 while the rest of the world has 2.3.6. They stopped updating my phone a long time ago, so they didn't even give me 18 months since they stopped me at 2.3.3 with all it's problems.
HTC even gave some of their older phones gingerbread by scaling down HTC sense to accommodate hardware limitations. Yet Samsung won't with no limitations for ICS.
The Galaxy Nexus was a phone I was thinking about, but no longer. I'm not going to line Samsungs pockets anymore. I'll wait to do my upgrade to the Next Nexus that hopefully will be made by a different manufacturer.
Samsung screwed their update processes with the million incarnations of our phones. Updates are too hard and lengthy for them to complete because of this, so they are taking the easy way out.
Samsungs war with Apple? They just sent a lot of SGS owners their way. At least you know your phone well always get updates provided the hardware is capable, even if they have to scale it down like they did on the 3GS.
I for one will never buy Apple, but count me in the camp of never buying Samsung again too if I don't get ICS officially from them.
My apologies for my rant.
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Here i come apple, samsung made me to. 3GS is older than sgs and it runs iOS5 from this year. Something android phones can just dream on.

I agree with you Greeced.
The SGS has been well maintained to date.
But the samsung's update policy is just catastrophic.
In some countries, people don't even have an official gingerbread update trough Kies.
Samsung sold millions of SGS in the world (the device is still available in most countries). Their policy is unacceptable. And it's too easy to blame the operators.
Next time i'll choose an official google nexus phone (regardless of the manufacturer) because they are always good phones and it's a guarantee to have a long-term support.

To everyone that says "x company will lose sales", while that may be true, how many of the millions sold are used by people who have knowledge or interest in the latest android? Many buy the phone and enjoy it and use it, and just don't care or aren't particularly bothered by the update pattern.

What I find amazing is that the Galaxy S Plus isn't even on the list and that's what, 6 months old?

zbal said:
Very disappointed by Samsung.
This is a high end device released in 2010 and already abandoned.
The S1 is perfectly compatible with ICS, this is pure business, or how to force
people to buy a new phone they don't need. Planned obsolescence, just like apple (but even Apple or HTC offer better software support...)
Of course there will be unofficial roms, but imho it's never the same quality as an official one.
Next time i'll choose an official google nexus device.
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I believe that is the mentality that they want the market to have...mission complete.