Hey all First post, w00t.
New to the PDA type phone thing and learning what i can from here. Dont quite understand WM5 yet but i'll get it eventually.
nice fourm you all have here
A few post have hit the nail on the head with issues with the phone.
No hinge LED's when the phone rings is my main hate at the mo i think.
Also anyone know how to get media player to play videos in full screen? all it does is puts a black border round the video rather than streching it. This would be cool
Whats the differance between the o2 (or different) and corporate install type?
Also TomTom M5.2 is coming up all green lines, had a quick search and cant find a fix. Anyone?
Thought i'd drop on and say i've had a problem with my screen (gotta love us being beta testers ehh?) Only got the phone at chrimbo and woke up the other morning to find that the screen wouldnt tap. It seems that the screen is now tapping itself randomly, closing applications and not letting me use the touch screen at all. You cant reallign the screen.
Seems a few people have had this problem and it seems un-fixable, soft, hard resets and reinstalling the ROM doesnt work. pulling the battery out and leaving it for a short while seems to cure the problem for a short while.
If you're having this problem, call the retailer and have it replaced. Defo seems to be a hardware issue, maybe a bad batch?
I'm waiting on them getting a new one in store for me.
HTH
JAmes
The screen issue does seem similar to the problem I was having.
Was on and off, but totally stopped responding early Sunday morning. Didn't start working again after numerous resets. Took it to the O2 shop today and it decided to start working again...
But they believed me, gave me a replacement and I've had zero problems with this one.
Seems like there may be some faulty ones about. Get it changed and hope they don't give you another faulty one
Hi all, this is my first post on this forum but I've been reading for a while to educate myself.
I've got a Herm200 that I've been trying to troubleshoot but to no avail. I'm fairly certain that it has a hardware problem but I haven't been able to isolate anything.
Here's whats happening:
Occasionally the screen will come out of stand-by all white. This will also happen randomly if i touch the screen to perform a command. While the screen is operating, sometimes the buttons on the face will stop working, however the buttons across both sides will continue working just fine.
When the screen turns all white a soft, hard, or stand-by cycle will not always bring it back to life. The fact that the hard reset wont always fix the problem makes me think it's a hardware issue since the phone will boot-up with the the all-white screen.
This is incredibly frustrating especially since HTC wont accept any warranty claims in the USA on the Tytn.
At first I thought this might be a problem with the ribon connection between the screen and the base but i haven't been able to confirm or discount anything at this point. I have yet to find a way to consistently reproduce or rectify the problem so it's very hard to troubleshoot.
I pretty much have to take a second phone with me everywhere right now just incase i need to make a call. Please help! Has anyone ever encountered such a problem?
Thank you in advance!
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Occasionally the screen will come out of stand-by all white. This will also happen randomly if i touch the screen to perform a command. While the screen is operating, sometimes the buttons on the face will stop working, however the buttons across both sides will continue working just fine.
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Hi. This sounds very similar to a problem that I experienced with a HERMES100. I bought the phone off someone on Ebay recently - someone had obviously scrambled the radio on it. I re-flashed it, and it sprang to life. However, after a couple of days, I experienced a problem where occasionally the LCD would stop refreshing, all the pixels faded away leaving only a white screen. Under these circumstances, some of the buttons on the phone stopped working. Turning phone on/off sometimes cured the problem, or it would require the occasional hard reset. This would happen once or twice a day and I suspect thats why someone tried to re-flash the phone.
In the end, out of curiosity I took the entire phone apart, put it all back together again and now there are no more problems!! Totally fixed!
My suspicion is that it was one of the ribbon cable push connectors on the mainboard - possibly not seated properly, or a bit of dirt contaminating the connection. Obviously when I took the phone apart I must have re-seated it.
If you are planning to take your phone apart, please exercise considerable care because some of the parts are very small and easily damaged. I would recommend buying a proper kit to take it apart. I bought mine for about £5 off ebay. Particularly useful are the plastic spoon "wedges" used to gently prise open the case after removing the screens. Don't use a screwdriver - you will scratch the case.
Good luck.
wow... that sounds like exactly what's going on here, I actually even tried to disassemble it lastnight but didnt have the right driver set. thank you for the advice!
I'll look for one of those sets but what would you search for if i needed to find it?
Thanks again, I just got a set off of Ebay. Hopefully it'll be here next week
With any luck it'll be a connection issue.
I have had the exact same problem. Because I got the Tytn through work I made our IT department handle the issue and I am currently waiting for a replacement and to find out what happened.
Yep, it looks like the problems the OP is having are very similar to the problems we've been having over in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=291027
I'm beginning to think it's a hardware problem as well but not entirely sure.
People in the above thread mentioned that using the scroll wheel a while then moving back to use the D pad fixed the problem (very briefly in my case.) Once I use the center D pad button again it locks the hardware buttons under the screen until I make my device sleep and resume.
Somtimes rather than making all the front hardware buttons unresponsive the issue is that once I use the Down Dpad button I can't use the up button. Pressing up will make it go down, as will pressing down (at least that's working ).
Regarding the white screen - this sometimes also occurs. I can force it to white screen by putting a little pressure on the silver panel surrounding the top, right and bottom of the screen (I have an imate jasjam). Randomly when there's no pressure on the rim and I wake it out of standby, it has a white screen that can only be fixed by turning the screen off and on again.
Finally, the LED indicator seems screwy. Sometimes it never flashes. Other times it flashes sporadically (uneven intervals - we're talking maybe a minute between one flash then seconds before another). When I charge it sometimes the LED doesn't come on but nevertheless it charges. Sometimes if the LED is on it never turns green to indicate a full charge. Yet other times it comes on orange, turns green, then never switches off!
Is it possible that
a) The hardware button problems.
b) The white screen problem.
c) The LED problem.
are all related to some kind of connection going loose? Why would the hardware button problem be temporarily fixable with use of the scroll wheel if this were the case?
The other thread has fallen silent. I'm hoping that some of the gurus in here can offer some input here, even if they don't know the answer but can formulate an opinion. I know very little about these devices.
Thanks in advance guys!
PS - don't really know if I should start another thread, I've posted here as it seems like very much the same issue.
Anybody any idea? advice?
I had a similar problem with my HERM100. I didn't mess around with it too much, I just had Cingular replace it out of warranty exchange (thank god those original ROMs are on the wiki ). I did notice however that after doing a master reset, the screen would function again although I haven't messed around with it too much. I got so frustrated with removing the battery for 5 minutes and STILL powering on with a white screen that I just threw it in my back seat until the new one arrived.
I don't have these screen issues. I only have hardware button problems. It's so damn frustrating! I already own a replacement.
I just received a call from my girlfriend. I wasn't able to answer the phone with the buttons, only with a screentap. I also wasn't able to close the call with the hardware button. Since the side buttons work, I went to settings -> phone, closed it, and there we go. The hardware buttons worked again.
Why the heck is this? I truly hope for some wizz out there with some advice, since HTC would only tell me to send it back after replacing it with a new TyTN with same issues.
Regards,
DM.
Anyone anyone?
HELP!!!!
barncourt said:
Hi. This sounds very similar to a problem that I experienced with a HERMES100. I bought the phone off someone on Ebay recently - someone had obviously scrambled the radio on it. I re-flashed it, and it sprang to life. However, after a couple of days, I experienced a problem where occasionally the LCD would stop refreshing, all the pixels faded away leaving only a white screen. Under these circumstances, some of the buttons on the phone stopped working. Turning phone on/off sometimes cured the problem, or it would require the occasional hard reset. This would happen once or twice a day and I suspect thats why someone tried to re-flash the phone.
In the end, out of curiosity I took the entire phone apart, put it all back together again and now there are no more problems!! Totally fixed!
My suspicion is that it was one of the ribbon cable push connectors on the mainboard - possibly not seated properly, or a bit of dirt contaminating the connection. Obviously when I took the phone apart I must have re-seated it.
If you are planning to take your phone apart, please exercise considerable care because some of the parts are very small and easily damaged. I would recommend buying a proper kit to take it apart. I bought mine for about £5 off ebay. Particularly useful are the plastic spoon "wedges" used to gently prise open the case after removing the screens. Don't use a screwdriver - you will scratch the case.
Good luck.
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This is my first post as I've so far managed to cure all my issues from just reading the forum. However, I am now having a similar problem with the white screen.
I have a cingular 8525. It fell and the following day the call and end buttons remained lit and wouldn't turn off and they also wouldn't work.
I soft reset, nothing, I then removed the battery and when I turned it back on, there was a white screen and the buttons below still don't work.
I have read the other posts on this issue, but I need help on exactly what kit to buy to reconnect the screen cable and instructions on how to do it as I've never taken apart a phone before, although I have dabbled with other electronic devices.
Your help would be much appreciated, as I am in Jamaica and there are no technicians here who I trust to help.
Thanks in advance.
Below are links to 2 kits I'm thinking of getting. Is either one better than the other?
http://www.pdasmart.com/pdaphonehtcmini.htm?gclid=CJrHntO-hosCFQx1VAodaQf6KQ
http://cgi.ebay.com/SCREWDRIVERS-TO...01677255QQcategoryZ108648QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
CINGULAR IN JA said:
This is my first post as I've so far managed to cure all my issues from just reading the forum. However, I am now having a similar problem with the white screen.
I have a cingular 8525. It fell and the following day the call and end buttons remained lit and wouldn't turn off and they also wouldn't work.
I soft reset, nothing, I then removed the battery and when I turned it back on, there was a white screen and the buttons below still don't work.
I have read the other posts on this issue, but I need help on exactly what kit to buy to reconnect the screen cable and instructions on how to do it as I've never taken apart a phone before, although I have dabbled with other electronic devices.
Your help would be much appreciated, as I am in Jamaica and there are no technicians here who I trust to help.
Thanks in advance.
Below are links to 2 kits I'm thinking of getting. Is either one better than the other?
http://www.pdasmart.com/pdaphonehtcmini.htm?gclid=CJrHntO-hosCFQx1VAodaQf6KQ
http://cgi.ebay.com/SCREWDRIVERS-TO...01677255QQcategoryZ108648QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Both kits look ok. PDA one tells you a little more but the basics appear to be in both.
I'm curious though you soft reset and took the battery out, but have you done a HARD reset? I would always try this first before dismantling.
Mike
In my case, they also are always lit up when the screen is also active.
And no matter what ROM version, they occasionally stop responding. Side buttons keep working.
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Both kits look ok. PDA one tells you a little more but the basics appear to be in both.
I'm curious though you soft reset and took the battery out, but have you done a HARD reset? I would always try this first before dismantling.
Mike
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Thanks for the response.
I couldn't do a hard reset because the buttons weren't working.
I have made some progress with the phone now. Found a tech guy who looked at it for me. The white screen is gone, but the buttons still stop working from time to time.
All the connections seem ok.
Is there anything else that could cause the buttons to malfunction?
CINGULAR IN JA said:
Thanks for the response.
I couldn't do a hard reset because the buttons weren't working.
I have made some progress with the phone now. Found a tech guy who looked at it for me. The white screen is gone, but the buttons still stop working from time to time.
All the connections seem ok.
Is there anything else that could cause the buttons to malfunction?
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Nothing obvious.
Have you got applications installed that you have loaded - could be one thats playing up.
Have you now been able to do a hard reset?
If taking device apart and reassembling improved things it does suggest hardware though and might be worth double checking all those multi-connector blocks for good connections - i.e. take them out and in a few times to ensure any oxidation on contacts is removed.
Mike
mikechannon said:
Nothing obvious.
Have you got applications installed that you have loaded - could be one thats playing up.
Have you now been able to do a hard reset?
If taking device apart and reassembling improved things it does suggest hardware though and might be worth double checking all those multi-connector blocks for good connections - i.e. take them out and in a few times to ensure any oxidation on contacts is removed.
Mike
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Thanks Mike.
I will give that a shot.
I haven't installed any new applications recently, so I don't think it is a software issue.
Thanks again.
CINGULAR IN JA said:
Thanks Mike.
I will give that a shot.
I haven't installed any new applications recently, so I don't think it is a software issue.
Thanks again.
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If it wouldn't be a software issue, why is it, in my case, instantly resolved when going to settings -> phone with the side buttons?
i had this problem i took it to a guy who fixed the problem he said it was a very small tear in the flex cable which causes this white screen every now ant then and the buton problem , sorry to say its the cable problem and u need a very capable person to fix it or replace it with a new one . its very common problem baised on the guy who fixed it .
dmxl said:
I don't have these screen issues. I only have hardware button problems. It's so damn frustrating! I already own a replacement.
I just received a call from my girlfriend. I wasn't able to answer the phone with the buttons, only with a screentap. I also wasn't able to close the call with the hardware button. Since the side buttons work, I went to settings -> phone, closed it, and there we go. The hardware buttons worked again.
Why the heck is this? I truly hope for some wizz out there with some advice, since HTC would only tell me to send it back after replacing it with a new TyTN with same issues.
Regards,
DM.
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Exactly what is happening to me, no white screen issues, just screen taps and answering calls, I also have another problem where the PDA will not allow me to open anything, be it the start menu or contacts, it will open and quickly close again. I have had mine swapped through Telstra in Sydney, it worked fine for a while and then the same crap again. These problems started before I even touched the OS, so it must be a build problem. Maybe we should write a joint letter to HTC letting them know that there is a serious problem with their machine.
I have had the same problem, got my Tytn through work so we sent it back to the company that supplied it to us. Got it back yesterday and they had replaced the "switchboard". Not sure what it is but there was the problem. Had white screen and buttons not working.
hey guys, i have started experiencing weird issue with my hero since last week (bought it last december). the sense ui behaves weirdly and when moving across scenes its getting unpredictable with the touch response. if i go back to my home screen, it still feels am trying to oscillate between multiple screens.
on top of it, using smart dial has become a pain with its unpredictable behavior.
Though factory reset would help but now the touch is unresponsive that i couldnt sign in to my google account as keypad doesnt recognise my entry.
any one experiencing this issue? on top of not getting androind 2.1 this has been a real bad week.
any help is much appreciated.
cheers.
Go into the recovery menu and do whatever thar? I'm not sure this will help as capacitive screens seem quite failsafe, contact orange/insurance
serenity373 said:
hey guys, i have started experiencing weird issue with my hero since last week (bought it last december). the sense ui behaves weirdly and when moving across scenes its getting unpredictable with the touch response. if i go back to my home screen, it still feels am trying to oscillate between multiple screens.
on top of it, using smart dial has become a pain with its unpredictable behavior.
Though factory reset would help but now the touch is unresponsive that i couldnt sign in to my google account as keypad doesnt recognise my entry.
any one experiencing this issue? on top of not getting androind 2.1 this has been a real bad week.
any help is much appreciated.
cheers.
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Yeah I have the same problem, and factory reset doesn't help...
I'm gonna go to the Sprint store, and you should contact your carrier support. This problem is caused by device overheating, which damages the inner LCD screen. This screen makes the outer glass or reinforced plastic screen responsive.
It's free to fix with insurance, and $100 without. Of course, there is the chance that your carrier could be nice to you and replace it for free...
similar problems on my end too! gonna go to sprint soon
I have had this problem with my HTC hero on T-Mobile here in the UK earlier this year. Took the phone back to T-Mobile and they sent it off to HTC. After almost a month without my HTC I started to get annoyed. Eventually I got the phone back and was told that the main circuit board had been replaced.
The phone's been ok for about three months and now it's started again but appears that it's only the bottom part of the screen thats affected, where the three touch screen buttons are.
The phones going back again today but interestingly I worked out that it only seems to do it when the phone has been in my pocket and has got warm. The effect is that I can't press the touchscreen 'Phone' button or any of the buttons at either side of it but if i press any of the icons above them the phone button will be activated. (wierd!).
Now here's the thing, if I leave the phone on a flat surface in a cool air flow for a few minutes then everything goes back to normal. Which leads me to think that the problem is temperature related.
Regards
Quite strange, mine has started doing that too. Only when its warm though... Lol.
HTC has confermed to me that many Hero's have a bad touchscreen.
They will repair free under waranty.
The home button on my Samsung Vibrant seems to stop working at times.
Sometimes it works when the light turns on, at other times it only responds with the light off.
Then sometimes it works normally, and sometimes it doesn't respond at all.
Everything else seems to be working fine; no blue screen tint, GPS is ok, not phenomenal, but this is frustrating, when the home button does not operate as it should.
Is it worth it to go and return it for an exchange, as I am still within the 14 day window?
Or should I just keep it and go with what I have?
If you feel that the device is honestly defective, then yes, exchange it =P
jamesd86 said:
If you feel that the device is honestly defective, then yes, exchange it =P
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My worry is that I'll get a even more defective device, than what I have now.
Everything else seems to work fine though...
It's just that if the home button is acting like this now, I wonder how it'll be like 6 months from now.
Whats the point of the poll?
Anyway, do you have a screen protector on the phone covering the touch keys? I have heard some screen protectors reduce the sensitivity. If you are within your return period might as well exchange it to get a fully functional device.
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speoples20 said:
Whats the point of the poll?
Anyway, do you have a screen protector on the phone covering the touch keys? I have heard some screen protectors reduce the sensitivity. If you are within your return period might as well exchange it to get a fully functional device.
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zagg made mine not very responsive. I took that crap off and they work like they should. Hell, the screen is scratch resistant ( not proof) so just be carefull and you can feel the real screen and looks better too....
Screw protector on capacitive buttons...
What terrible build quality, to make screen protectors lower sensitivity so much that people notice.
Anyway, I had my first otherwise-perfect-Vibrant replaced cause the settings key stopped working properly. I noticed on my third (!) Vibrant the touchkeys become a tad bit more unresponsive after applying my InvisibleShield but it is still usable.
I had the same problem with the second Vibrant I had. The problem would get progressively worse until it would not work at all. Hitting the power button and then waking the phone again seemed to "reset" the process, but the problem was still there. I returned it for a new phone with no problems. I would recommend the same for you.
I had a problem with home button, with and without screen protector. Replacement unit is working well. With Realook sp, it works well. Not as responsive as bareback, but definitely not noticeable enough to be an issue. Get a replacement unit asap.
yeah, i'm noticing i have the same problem and also it does seem to get better with a reset. or leave the phone a while and then pick it up 15 minutes later and it's fine... like something running in the background causing THAT button to be laggy, but the back button works fine always. no screen protector on mine. is Tmo giving out refurbs yet or will i get a NEW unit? Go into the store or do i have to call 611?
I think that the exchange is worth it, I did that in my 14 day period too. I exchanged because of the trim squeaking and I'm glad I did because it's nice to have stock phone over.
There is already a 9 page topic discussing this issue.
I had this issue on my first Vibrant, except it was the Menu capacitive button that starting getting unresponsive. It eventually got to the point that I had to physically tap on it with some force to get it to respond. Since I had the blue screen tint issue on that one as well I had it replaced. My second Vibrant has great capacitive buttons and perfect screen tint. It was a little flakey at first, but since I re-flashed the stock firmware it seems perfect now.
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There is already a 9 page topic discussing this issue.
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The capacitive buttons unresponsive issue? Yes, there is a thread on that but it might be difficult to find in a search because the title says menu button. Maybe the title can be changed for easier searching?
To the OP: I had this problem on Vibrant #3 and I exchanged it. It seems to be a hardware problem or at least a problem that won't get any better with time. I had the TMo rep check for this issue on the new phone before he completed the exchange. The first new one he brought out of the stock room had a similar problem right out of the box. It had the same ship date (7/10 I believe) as the one I was exchanging. The replacement phone hasn't really shown any problems.
Hi,
I've read on here about people having their screens on their HD2 die however I have a weird situation with mine. One day end of last week my battery dropped below 10% while doing alot of messaging and as soon as I received the low battery warning my screen would not respond whatsoever. I got home later and plugged it into the charger and it came back to life but not 100% perfect it would work but irratically where I'd select something but another area of the screen would be selected and so on until I turned the screen off and on again. Once I did this it worked fine for a little while then repeated the process.
Here's the weird thing after some time today it decided to die on me completely where it responded to nothing so me getting frustrated I started holding down the hard buttons and swiping away with fury and the screen responded. I've now worked out through process of elimination that while holding the back button the screen will work fine but as soon as I take my finger off it stops. Has anyone ever witnessed this before? Is it definitely a duff screen that's just given up over time? I'm still within my 18 month contract so can phone up O2 and get them to repair it if it's a hardware fault that they don't put down to wear and tear.
Thanks
Sounds like hou might want to send it in for repairs as it might be the digitizer going out.
Cool thanks for the quick response, I've contacted O2 and hopefully won't take them long to get back to me.