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That had obviously not been raised before, so my thread was moved.
See here
This was regarding ROMS and SD card performance. There is an obvious difference.....
Input or solutions please?
you ask a question in the wrong forum, it gets moved, so you ask it again in the wrong forum (without actually asking it)? what exactly is your plan?
Hey buddy, this isn't a General Q&A question.
How about an intelligent response?
I was bringing the difference in SD card performance between ROMS, and even recovery, up to the Android Developers.
Thanks, K-dong.
ok killerwilly, what exactly is your question now? seriously, i don't get the question.
you are too stupid to make a benchmark with sdcards, and you want to know how to do it? how is this not a general question?
from what i see in the first thread you created about this you are using cdma hero roms, so you are probably not only in the wrong subforum for the right device, but you are also in the wrong device forum.
you gotta lose the attitude, dude. don't pick up the xda lameness that floats around here.
You had to edit your response didn't you?
In future, if you don't like what someone is saying either don't respond or try to at least put your point across in another manner.
I'm not saying don't have your own back, if you think someone isn't playing nice, of course you have every right to speak up, but to start throwing insults is definitely not the right way to go about doing things around here. Noobs and Veterans alike, no-one deserves to be called names.
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Users, take this as a friendly warning.
I downgraded my mytouch 3g to 1.5 firmware to root it and i thought that i could enable the adb on the my touch with the onscreen keyboard you can bring it up by pressing menu on the setup screen but no luck at all so im stuck here on the setup screen and i dont have a data plan so what can i do i just did my g1 thru adb shell and i activated with wifi but its not working on the mytouch 3g so please help me out please..........and no i dont have a friend with a sim.............no i dont want to pay for a 1 day use of data for tmobile plus they suspended the account for now and i cant do that anyways........but the weird thing is when i start command prompt and goto the tools folder i can type in fastboot devices and the mytouch shows up but when i try to flash like fastboot flash recovery cm-recovery-1.4.img it starts but it shows this (Hopefully the image loaded lol) but yeah i explained in the pic of what im talking about as well i dont kno what that means and how im supposed to fix it........so hopefully u can help me out is there anyway to enable adb on the mytouch thru fastboot so it can enable it so i can use adb shell and it would actually show up when i type in adb devices because i kno its working because fastboot works???? all the help you can give is aprreciated....
Seriously 23 views and not one piece of info????????????? are you serious......I NEED HELP...........
That means you are using perfected SPL. Just because fastboot devices returns the serial, it doesn't mean you can flash images using adb.
You will need to have engineering SPL to be able to flash images (recovery, radio, etc) through ADB.
No one probably replied because if you had searched for fastboot Remote: Not Allowed in google, you would have found the answer already.
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Seriously 23 views and not one piece of info????????????? are you serious......I NEED HELP...........
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If you needed help so bad you should have posted it in the correct thread.
Moved to General.
Guess what DEVELOPMENT means? Seriously, take a look in the thread at most of the other posts. I take a look and I see "SPL Collection", "Radio Switcher", "Sapphire Hacking", "Rom Bible", and then "HELP! Gmail Setup NO DATA"
One of these things are not like the others.
I'm moving it to the appropriate thread but next time I'll close it without warning.
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If you needed help so bad you should have posted it in the correct thread.
Moved to General.
Guess what DEVELOPMENT means? Seriously, take a look in the thread at most of the other posts. I take a look and I see "SPL Collection", "Radio Switcher", "Sapphire Hacking", "Rom Bible", and then "HELP! Gmail Setup NO DATA"
One of these things are not like the others.
I'm moving it to the appropriate thread but next time I'll close it without warning.
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Ok thank you Binary......... i thought since i was ROOTING my phone which i belive hmmmmmmmmmmmmm?????????yeah im right...................DEVELOPING my MyTouch that id post it in there not in General where it has nothing to do with anything i was asking about so lets make a Questions Thread so u wont have to search everywhere for people posting in wrong places and it would make more sense in that than a GENERAL Thread where poepl e just talk about random stuff...........
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That means you are using perfected SPL. Just because fastboot devices returns the serial, it doesn't mean you can flash images using adb.
You will need to have engineering SPL to be able to flash images (recovery, radio, etc) through ADB.
No one probably replied because if you had searched for fastboot Remote: Not Allowed in google, you would have found the answer already.
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thanks i didnt think about that i just thought it was being a douche like always..........
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Ok thank you Binary......... i thought since i was ROOTING my phone which i belive hmmmmmmmmmmmmm?????????yeah im right...................DEVELOPING my MyTouch that id post it in there not in General where it has nothing to do with anything i was asking about so lets make a Questions Thread so u wont have to search everywhere for people posting in wrong places and it would make more sense in that than a GENERAL Thread where poepl e just talk about random stuff...........
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Your not DEVELOPING anything by rooting your myTouch, your merely modifying something that already exists within the phone.
When it comes to anything dealing with technology, developing something means that you are either creating something completely new, or you are taking a process/application/media medium that already exists and improving it. In lame man's terms, your either creating an all new application/ROM/way of rooting (in our case) or you are taking a currently created ROM and improving on it in order for it to run properly on different devices (such as porting a ROM created to run on the Droid X so that it will work on the myTouch 3G). This could also include creating new kernal's for devices to be able to be properly overclocked, be compatible with newer ROM versions, etc.
But, I do understand where you come from. Sometimes it is just human nature for a person to become defensive in the presence of ignorance. A word of advice though, being disrespectful towards a forum admin is not the way to go about getting help.
Would also like to add that if you look under the General Discussion header you'll see that it says "Discussion about the T-Mobile myTouch 3G, HTC Magic (general Q&A, tips & tricks)".
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Your not DEVELOPING anything by rooting your myTouch, your merely modifying something that already exists within the phone.
When it comes to anything dealing with technology, developing something means that you are either creating something completely new, or you are taking a process/application/media medium that already exists and improving it. In lame man's terms, your either creating an all new application/ROM/way of rooting (in our case) or you are taking a currently created ROM and improving on it in order for it to run properly on different devices (such as porting a ROM created to run on the Droid X so that it will work on the myTouch 3G). This could also include creating new kernal's for devices to be able to be properly overclocked, be compatible with newer ROM versions, etc.
But, I do understand where you come from. Sometimes it is just human nature for a person to become defensive in the presence of ignorance. A word of advice though, being disrespectful towards a forum admin is not the way to go about getting help.
Would also like to add that if you look under the General Discussion header you'll see that it says "Discussion about the T-Mobile myTouch 3G, HTC Magic (general Q&A, tips & tricks)".
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and i would like to apologize for that to u binary......I was just upset about somethings and im the type of person that has the money to do whatever with and i could easily go and pay someone to do all this but i dont......ive been doing this for years i started with psps to xbox 360s then went to a HTC XV6700 then to a HTC Dream/G1 then im stuck on this MyTouch 3G and when i have trouble and people Bash me just because i need help i get defensive because i kno what im doin and when i run into a problem everybody acts like im stupid and im a "noob" or something but idk y people do it because everybody is a "noob" at one point in life.......maybe somebody should put all their energy that they do when they bash somebody into helping them out......how you would like it when u (the basher) had a problem and everybody including the mod admin or creator of the forum or site or whatever made fun of u????????? thats my point but i apologize for bein like that....so maybe we all can get past this and help each other.......
I wasn't necessarily bashing you, nor was Binary. I'm a mod myself for a gaming clan that I'm a part of and I just understand where Binary is coming from. Think about the fact that you have thousands of people trolling these forums and when 70% of them don't post things in the proper place or post a question that was answered two threads from the top, it gets very redundant having to "help" them out by pointing them in the right direction all the time. If people would merely take that extra second to search or read an extra sentence it would make everything so much easier. Yes, Binarys response may have sounded slightly sarcastic, but when I've seen the guy have to move 20-30 threads and tell people to search for their problem because the answer was in a thread two days old, then I can't blame him. People really need to try and look at both sides of a situation before flaming. Its understandable that your frustrated, but again, flaming at anyone on these, or any other, forums is not the way to generate positive responses.
Now, as for you problem, how exactly did you go about downgrading to 1.5? Do you have the MT3G with the 3.5mm jack? You not going to be able to run anything through ADB until you can actually get into the phone and enable USB debugging (unless you can get into recovery), in the meantime, your going to have to run everything through fastboot. Next, that recovery image your using is kind of old, you might want to try Amon Ra 1.7.0. Along with your answers, post your current fastboot information (turn the phone off and power on by holding back+power). When the screen with three skateboarding Androids comes up, write that information into here.
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...lets make a Questions Thread so u wont have to search everywhere for people posting in wrong places and it would make more sense in that than a GENERAL Thread where poepl e just talk about random stuff...........
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That's why it says:
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and i would like to apologize for that to u binary......I was just upset about somethings and im the type of person that has the money to do whatever with and i could easily go and pay someone to do all this but i dont......ive been doing this for years i started with psps to xbox 360s then went to a HTC XV6700 then to a HTC Dream/G1 then im stuck on this MyTouch 3G and when i have trouble and people Bash me just because i need help i get defensive because i kno what im doin and when i run into a problem everybody acts like im stupid and im a "noob" or something but idk y people do it because everybody is a "noob" at one point in life.......maybe somebody should put all their energy that they do when they bash somebody into helping them out......how you would like it when u (the basher) had a problem and everybody including the mod admin or creator of the forum or site or whatever made fun of u????????? thats my point but i apologize for bein like that....so maybe we all can get past this and help each other.......
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No I understand completely. I agree with you 100%. I was a noob for years in fact. Believe it or not even I still have issues. I just posted one in the G1 Q&A a few days ago and it still hasn't had any responses so I know how you feel. Yet I also know what it takes to get flammed and how to avoid it. No one here is flamming or bashing you and I apologize if it seemed that way but sometimes you need to make light of a heavy situation if you get my meaning. You're thread will likely get hundreds of views... and not just from members. And I move around an average of 20 to 50 posts per day! So yeah... I move more posts than you even read! So while you're trying to imagine that just think about how many I would have to move, edit, delete and close if I didn't come off strict towards everyone. I'm not a jerk like I come off to be... I'm actually very lenient but I can't ban someone today for breaking a rule today and give someone a second chance tomorrow for breaking the same rule. In the same way I can't just move a thread without an explaination either because it causes confusion. So how am I supposed to appear strict, enforce and be fair all at once? Ask your parents! LOL! Just think of me as this forums father. I'll ground you for breaking a rule or I'll help you fix your bike if I can. See my meaning? By the way... forum wise... I'm a single father (only moderator) of three children named Wing (the Oldest and most mature... little maintenance, Tilt... middle child, and my youngest Sapphire. Sapphire is a handful because she is growing so fast and she (as in the members) doesn't quite knows what she's doing yet.
Sorry but that's the best metaphor that I can come up with for now.
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No I understand completely. I agree with you 100%. I was a noob for years in fact. Believe it or not even I still have issues. I just posted one in the G1 Q&A a few days ago and it still hasn't had any responses so I know how you feel. Yet I also know what it takes to get flammed and how to avoid it. No one here is flamming or bashing you and I apologize if it seemed that way but sometimes you need to make light of a heavy situation if you get my meaning. You're thread will likely get hundreds of views... and not just from members. And I move around an average of 20 to 50 posts per day! So yeah... I move more posts than you even read! So while you're trying to imagine that just think about how many I would have to move, edit, delete and close if I didn't come off strict towards everyone. I'm not a jerk like I come off to be... I'm actually very lenient but I can't ban someone today for breaking a rule today and give someone a second chance tomorrow for breaking the same rule. In the same way I can't just move a thread without an explaination either because it causes confusion. So how am I supposed to appear strict, enforce and be fair all at once? Ask your parents! LOL! Just think of me as this forums father. I'll ground you for breaking a rule or I'll help you fix your bike if I can. See my meaning? By the way... forum wise... I'm a single father (only moderator) of three children named Wing (the Oldest and most mature... little maintenance, Tilt... middle child, and my youngest Sapphire. Sapphire is a handful because she is growing so fast and she (as in the members) doesn't quite knows what she's doing yet.
Sorry but that's the best metaphor that I can come up with for now.
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lol yeah i got u now man lol and i guess i solved my problem as well we have a flexpay and we didnt pay the bill so they suspended the account but they said we can still put flexpay minutes on it and use it that way well we are goin to ge a card today and hopefully that brins the service back so we can use the data if so i wont have anymore problems because once i get thru this gmail activation and i can put the recovery on the phone there is no need for the data really just wifi because i can use CyanogenMod-6 on there and i can either skip or touch the four corners on the startup screen and im in lol but yeah i guess this is it for now so ill let u guys kno how it went
Now I'm fully aware of my n00b status, and will not deny it at all, however last night when I was in the midst of my ROM installation fiasco (worked out well in the end!) I thought of something that might be pretty useful when doing all this flashing back to stock in order to load a custom rom...(and then messing up the custom rom, then loading backup, then messing that up, then almost bricking, then freaking out over possible brick, then figuring out how to really use ODIN3, then starting stock, lol....the past 12 hours has been a serious learning experience, but fun now that it's done)
The process I followed to install the Cognition ROM involved taking my bone stock captivate and rooting it, then installing ROM Manager, then backup, etc....Here's my suggestion, take it for what it's worth, and if I'm overstepping my boundaries, try to be nice about letting me know
I've noticed that there are many root "packages" where it installs root, and lagfixes, and a ton of other stuff, but (and maybe I haven't looked hard enough, but I've looked...) I noticed there isn't just a root "package" that ONLY roots the phone and installs ROM Manager only...this is my suggestion- make one! Maybe include Titanium backup, but since I was a bone stock Captivate, I didn't really have too much invested in apps, since I knew I was going to be going back and forth, and I intend on keeping it that way for a while, since I am still learning. But yeah- Root, ROM Manager, and Titanium Backup package would pretty much be the sh*t!
Now, I know I haven't contributed a damn thing to this forum, but this seems like it would be a handy tool to have, and while it's benefits are marginal (you save the whole 3 or 4 minutes to go to the market and install these apps) it makes life a little easier in a world where life isn't always easy (as I found out last night/this morning
If something like this exists already, forgive me for my ignorance and please point me in the right direction. I'm not trying to step on any toes or offend anyone, I just think this would be handy to have, and judging from the knowledge floating around this forum, it *seems* like it would be something fairly elementary for some of you extremely knowledgeable folks to do..
My apologies for such a long-winded post, but I tend to be that way, and again...thanks to all on this forum for a treasure trove of information to read through and slowly acquaint myself with the Android OS...It's hella better than the 3gs Iphone I previously had.......
Welcome aboard. I will say this first, post in the proper area of the forum, this belongs in the general discussion area, for future reference, this is the developement forum.
There are one click root methods, there are other packages that remove AT&T bloat and toss in a few other goodies. A word of caution, read, read, read, learn as much as you can from all of our mistakes before you go making the same ones. You should read an entire thread before jumping ahead and flashing, that way you avoid fiascos and possible brick your phone. Read all of the stickies at the top of the page, then browse all of the topics discussed, usually if you read an entire thread your questions will be answered in it. If you run into trouble and need help you will find it here. Happy hunting!
Root: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739304
ROM Manager and Titanium: Get them from the market.
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Welcome aboard. I will say this first, post in the proper area of the forum, this belongs in the general discussion area, for future reference, this is the developement forum.
There are one click root methods, there are other packages that remove AT&T bloat and toss in a few other goodies. A word of caution, read, read, read, learn as much as you can from all of our mistakes before you go making the same ones. You should read an entire thread before jumping ahead and flashing, that way you avoid fiascos and possible brick your phone. Read all of the stickies at the top of the page, then browse all of the topics discussed, usually if you read an entire thread your questions will be answered in it. If you run into trouble and need help you will find it here. Happy hunting!
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+1 to this and yes there is indeed a one-click root already (as bare as you can get). installing ROM manager and titanium can be your job after that (how hard is that? takes like 5 seconds). and yes, read! reading is your friend! read read read read and then when you feel like you've learned everything you can, read more because you still haven't figured it all out. and again, because this doesn't provide anything NEW or unique to Android running on the Samsung Captivate, please keep it to General.
Thanks and enjoy your phone
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Welcome aboard. I will say this first, post in the proper area of the forum, this belongs in the general discussion area, for future reference, this is the developement forum.
There are one click root methods, there are other packages that remove AT&T bloat and toss in a few other goodies. A word of caution, read, read, read, learn as much as you can from all of our mistakes before you go making the same ones. You should read an entire thread before jumping ahead and flashing, that way you avoid fiascos and possible brick your phone. Read all of the stickies at the top of the page, then browse all of the topics discussed, usually if you read an entire thread your questions will be answered in it. If you run into trouble and need help you will find it here. Happy hunting!
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Cool. I will be sure to post correctly next time. Maybe a mod can move this thread.
As far as reading, that's all I've been doing for the past 2 months (hence, my low post count...didn't want to post when an answer is around the corner) Coming from the Iphone, this is a whole new monster, and all the reading I've done has benefited me infinitely
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Cool. I will be sure to post correctly next time. Maybe a mod can move this thread.
As far as reading, that's all I've been doing for the past 2 months (hence, my low post count...didn't want to post when an answer is around the corner) Coming from the Iphone, this is a whole new monster, and all the reading I've done has benefited me infinitely
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Enjoy your phone, I love mine, I'm a noob too and I spend hours everyday studying these forums. Everyone on here is very helpfull, I use Designgears stuff and love it. His new ROM is amazing it will make your phone fly. My phone has never worked like this, my battery life has improved drastically since flashing this ROM last night. Here's a link to the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=786532
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Enjoy your phone, I love mine, I'm a noob too and I spend hours everyday studying these forums. Everyone on here is very helpfull, I use Designgears stuff and love it. His new ROM is amazing it will make your phone fly. My phone has never worked like this, my battery life has improved drastically since flashing this ROM last night. Here's a link to the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=786532
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Yes, but she needs to show it off in her signature... =)
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Yes, but she needs to show it off in her signature... =)
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I was enjoying it so much I forgot to update my signature. I've been hanging out here trying to help answer some questions, thanks for catching that.
1. A FAQ listed on each section. I know we have Wiki, but its usually outdated and hard to navigate. There really is no need for gigantic lists, but simple things like how to root, use odin, use clockwork, install roms/themes, etc... can be put there along with a warning on asking questions which have already been posted on the FAQ.
2. More Mods! I think just one or two more mods can help the forums a lot and clean things up.
3. Warnings for people who post questions that have already been answered on the front page of a thread or faq followed by a temp ban if they continue.
I'm really tired of the cycle of
- Dumb question posted
- Followed by "read the damn thread or use the damn search button"
- Followed by "Hey you were a noob once and theres no harm in answering the question you ass along with lengthy answer on the question that will inevitable be asked 10 more times in the near future"
- Continue flame war that now has nothing to do with the thread anymore
You enable people by holding their hands. Don't be an enabler. If you managed to find out how to do all this crap on your own, they can too. At most you should point them to the right thread and let them read up on it on their own so they can further their own education.
4. Don't PM the Devs for requests. They have enough work on their hands and don't need to be flooded. Remember the rule of think before you speak? Try thinking before you PM.
Anyhoo, there was a bunch more, but I'm sure you guys/gals have other ideas.
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1. A FAQ listed on each section. I know we have Wiki, but its usually outdated and hard to navigate. There really is no need for gigantic lists, but simple things like how to root, use odin, use clockwork, install roms/themes, etc... can be put there along with a warning on asking questions which have already been posted on the FAQ.
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I don't understand why the "[How To] Return to Stock / Fix Bricked Epic" thread is not sticked.
If someone posts they bricked their phone and needs help you post the link to that thread and lock it.
I like the sentiment of this thread but fear it might be taken the wrong way. Whosdaman is really a wonderful guy and has been very helpful to me but it seems like he is very busy (and who can blame him for dealing with things outside of the interwebs?) so I support this I would also like to issue a blanket "Thank you for your hard work" to Whosdaman.
Seeing as this is a collection of developers I don't see why we don't customize the forum itself.
I don't see any reason we can't flag the development and Q/A threads for every phone. Then, if "is this a question" is set to yes, automatically put it in that phone's Q/A forum. On top of which we could add a "You are posting in the development forum, this is reserved for people developing for [insert phone]. Please check the box below to confirm that you are developing something you wish to share." anytime people posted in the development forum.
Obviously people can still screw it up, if nothing else on purpose, but we can expect people who have never been on the forums to know how the forums are laid out, usually by reading the rules, which never happens, to sort their own, or we can make it as self sorting as possible.
Sounds like whosedaman just needs some support. Perhaps another mod added to help out. We all have to keep in mind that these guys don't get paid for this and real life always trumps forums life. Just my thought on this.
Sent from my Epic while i should be working
I was wondering why there was so much confusion in this forum, as I really liked the forums I used for the month I had a Moment before the Epic dropped. Was there ever a forum on here for the moment??? I couldnt find one, so I checked sdx, which I remember lurking back then and found my answer. Why can't Xda have 'child forums', with descriptions of where and why to post things?? They have a 'market' forum section for ROMs, etc, which we here are using development exclusively. I understand why, but it seems its this way here because of limited tools for organizing, can this sites software not do that? It is completely logical and intuitive to post questions directly regarding development or roms in the development section if you are new... I would have expected a sub-forum for roms only, or at least some direction other than after the fact... usually unless its horribly out of order, whosdaman is pretty polite about it, and given the feelings regarding this device, things get silly in here. Anyways, yes, at least sticky all roms and things 'coolguy' or whatever dont warrant flaming, and then politely notify the new people that questions regarding development actually get booted over to general, where intuitively people would assume GENERAL questions like 'do you like gmail or the stock app better?'.
More mods? Better structure? Who has control over this? Are there any experienced volunteers that can help whosdaman out with his daunting task?
We need to expect more 'joined in Dec 2010' and later members as every idiot with a blog and engadget included seem to think this site and forum are the authority, even over Sprint and Samsung (if XDA says 2.2 is dropping, it must be true, head over there and complain about it). NOTHING against new members, just that there is little direction other than the 'rules' that most people think are just 'dont flame, no kiddie porn... etc...' Dont get all elitist because people couldnt figure out your simple, non-intuitive structure because its their first 5 mins here.
Love this forum, but its like people are baited into getting flamed by assuming this forum runs like most any other... I thought I saw the end of this when I refused to go to another BBC chat... guess not.
If you feel that you must deputize yourself, please, copy the link to the wiki, rules, etc and paste them in misplaced, repeat threads and leave it at that.
since this is a fluff post, BigJim, whats the 1488 stand for??? Just curious...
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since this is a fluff post, BigJim, whats the 1488 stand for??? Just curious...
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Pardon? I'm not sure I understand what you mean by 'a fluff post'. I sincerely hope Whosdaman reads this thread and takes into account that there are some of us who would genuinely like to help him make our forums a more manageable place to browse and share ideas/roms/themes/etc. I am in no way asking for myself to be made a mod but rather I believe there are people here who would make good mods and I hope that WDM sees that we support him and want to help him make our community more accessible!
I'm willing to be a mod here I have experience and would know and how to handle things here...
Admins or mods pm me
sent from my Epic 4G
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1. A FAQ listed on each section. I know we have Wiki, but its usually outdated and hard to navigate. There really is no need for gigantic lists, but simple things like how to root, use odin, use clockwork, install roms/themes, etc... can be put there along with a warning on asking questions which have already been posted on the FAQ.
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Did you do a search before posting this? There's already a thread on it, learn how to use the search.
Ok, that was my attempt at humor
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I don't think this is fluff at all and whosdaman does deserve to be thanked for his, well, thankless work.
1488 is a race thing. They usually won't tell you what the ideology of it is in public. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteen_Words
Although I don't agree with the sentiment of the belief structure, I support their right to peacefully observe their beliefs.
Yeah I know that meaning its generally a tattooed target, was just hoping it was just some retarded interweb speak. Sorry to hear. Almost forgot what it was though... not many Boneheads around here, not anymore.
BTW, I respect Lady Gaga's work, although I dont like it, therefore I see no reason to put it in my username.... its ok, you have a right to be a Nazi in this country...
Regrettably, I do read almost every thread in this forum, and forums I maintain...
<--------- Look here, I have 8 forums to maintain full time, but 6 are dead lol
Yeah I do have a life outside this for sure. Not only am I a senior in High School, I am on the Mock Trial team, the Robotics Team, a Sales Representative for Sprint, and a Writer for BriefMobile.com
So yeah I would say I'm busy, but I look over the entire forum as much as I can. Shep211 has been extremely busy in his personal life, that's why I started helping.
It is a thankless job, it's a volunteer job. All free, I don't get paid. The only thanks comes from the owner of the site when I say "if you fix this the site will be better."
Besides all that I can single handedly control this entire forum. I know it sometimes looks cluttered and in a mess, but then again...the Development section is spotless, which is truely the only thing that matters. The General section is meant to be a mess because it's where everyone posts their questions and complaints.
There are applications to become a moderator here on XDA, you have to meet certain requirements to be considered and then be approved. No one of this forum knows my experience as a moderator unless you used GameBattles.com for PS3.
If you want to help me out the most, please please please, use the "Report Post" feature. Every reported post goes straight to my inbox, and I see every single one. Normally RP's get extra attention as they obviously have bothered someone enough to have it reported. 90% of the RP's are either Ghost or Kenvan.
The search feature would do alot of people good, it's nice to tell people to do something, but Report the post/thread and I'll take care of it. You clutter up the forum and threads by posting in threads saying to post in General, just report it. That's all.
Sure, I wish everyone searched because there are at least 5 can't root threads. I would rather merge them all but it too much work to find them. Like I said, let the noobs make their mistake. The members report the post, don't tell them they were wrong. I'll move it, shoot them a PM, and then post in their thread telling them where they should have posted. Then hopefully they will learn.
Thanks again,
WDM
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Pardon? I'm not sure I understand what you mean by 'a fluff post'. I sincerely hope Whosdaman reads this thread and takes into account that there are some of us who would genuinely like to help him make our forums a more manageable place to browse and share ideas/roms/themes/etc. I am in no way asking for myself to be made a mod but rather I believe there are people here who would make good mods and I hope that WDM sees that we support him and want to help him make our community more accessible!
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Sorry, fluff may have been a wrong choice of words, I was implying that as this has been talked about before, and ignored by the powers that be, I saw it was going to end up an off topic post eventually, or at least until the elitist post Nazis (no offense bigjim) came in and said how we are cluttering their precious first page of posts, because as most have trouble with the AMAZING search function, a lot here have a lot of trouble with 'next page', you dont even have to pick which page, it takes you right to the next one!
Sorry, this is just getting really retarded around here, oh and BigJim,apologies, last comment on your beliefs, if off topic, but being an anarcho-punk, its hard not to at least ask if that is REALLY what you are talking about.
hehe *blush* I've tried to resort to reporting posts lately as opposed to trying to deal with problems on my own. Hope its not too much of a burden.
THANK YOU whosdaman! that is a very simple way to deal with the clutter issue... didnt even realise what the report button was till i looked around for it. I agree that not replying, positive or negative is good, if its easier for you to redirect them (you could probably easily make a form letter, just sub in 'froyo', 'GPS', or 'search' and the rest is pretty much the same!)
So what of the ability to make sub forums??? to be able to have a section under Dev that is for general DEV RELATED questions would be cool... most people assume that General is for stock, non rooted phone discussion, and Development is for anything to do with development. I think I remember one called 'all things root'?? Idunno, but you get the idea. So what is the plausability of this?? not possible with site software? Too much work??? Just curious, I have asked in similar threads and I think you were too busy with other stuff... I tend to avoid PM especially if it is something someone else may be able to answer, as we all know, mods are busy, especially in this forum. Thanks for all your hard work!
I certainly appreciate all the hard work Whosdaman has been doing with these forums, but unless he enjoys handling all this, wouldn't an extra mod or two be helpful?
My biggest thing is the FAQ post. Someone asks questions, you can point and say you should have read that first. Like I said before, the Wiki is great, but its a little cluttered and outdated as well as being hard to edit. Having one person willing to just moderate that one thread would be so helpful.
It bugs me when the whole community seems to be represented by the lazy people who just spam post. There are plenty of helpful, polite and very well informed that get lost among the clutter. In fact, they probably outnumber the newbies but don't feel the need to post nonsense. For every idiot that asks a dumb question, there are probably 10 that actually do research and figure it out for themselves.
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hehe *blush* I've tried to resort to reporting posts lately as opposed to trying to deal with problems on my own. Hope its not too much of a burden.
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Nope, I love you and ghost for reporting post. I always look forward to waking up and seeing 10 new PMs lol
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THANK YOU whosdaman! that is a very simple way to deal with the clutter issue... didnt even realise what the report button was till i looked around for it. I agree that not replying, positive or negative is good, if its easier for you to redirect them (you could probably easily make a form letter, just sub in 'froyo', 'GPS', or 'search' and the rest is pretty much the same!)
So what of the ability to make sub forums??? to be able to have a section under Dev that is for general DEV RELATED questions would be cool... most people assume that General is for stock, non rooted phone discussion, and Development is for anything to do with development. I think I remember one called 'all things root'?? Idunno, but you get the idea. So what is the plausability of this?? not possible with site software? Too much work??? Just curious, I have asked in similar threads and I think you were too busy with other stuff... I tend to avoid PM especially if it is something someone else may be able to answer, as we all know, mods are busy, especially in this forum. Thanks for all your hard work!
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I have no control over sub-forums. And right now it is only me working on the entire Epic forum. Like I said shep211 is gone atm.
svetius is in charge of the entire site, and I've talked to him about improvements that can be made. I wouldn't bother him too much or he'll just ignore ya. Most of the time the only things he is interested is fixing errors with the site itself. Right now I don't think we are in the area of reorganizing the entire site.
ok, so adding a subforum is not possible? Or is it a decision to make the structure uniform across the whole site? Just thinking, because this forum is like maximum security, different from the rest... or so it would seem...
I'm not so sure making more areas, and thus more chances to be wrong, is a good way to combat posting in the wrong area.
If you have a rom question, ask it in the rom thread. All that would happen if there were subforums for things in development, and discussion of things in development is we'd have 37 threads about how "I just discovered ___ doesn't work in [rom]" instead of 50 posts about it in the rom thread.
(Not to mention you'd then be blurring the line of when it is or isn't ok to post in the DEV forum, where as now, if the person bothers to read, there's a pretty clear cut "If you aren't about to post about the thing you just developed, GTFO" rule.)
I have been playing around with SD builds since they first came along on the HD2. I have done a lot of skinning (and a really small amount of coding!) in WinMo/CHT. I am an intelligent guy, but I am beginning to think that everyone who's really into Android is speaking a different language to me! I have searched and read and searched and read, but really hope there is someone out there who knows what they are talking about to answer these few utterly basic questions which I can't find simple answers to
1. Are all of these builds that are being cooked for HD2 already rooted (I did say basic!)?
2. If not, how do I tell and what do I need to do?
3. Does Magdlr allow you the option of retaining WinMo on device and booting into an SD/RAM Android build?
4. What is ADB and does it do anything I can't already do on my phone with ESExplorer/Root Explorer/Titanium Backup?
5. What does mount/unmount SD card mean?
6. How can I tell what mods from other device threads can be safely applied - is it basically whatever device the HD2 ROM is based off is a safe bet for mods (framework.res, etc)?
7. Why is it all the devs never answer reasonable questions in their own threads and everyone in the Android forums treats you like a total idiot if you don't know EVERYTHING already! (Don't need an answer to this one, just blowing off steam )
So please, if anyone can stoop low enough to offer me answers in my quest for a basic understanding PLEEEEEASE do. And if we can make this thread a safe haven for fellow idiots to ask blindingly stupid questions of their own then so much the better
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I have been playing around with SD builds since they first came along on the HD2. I have done a lot of skinning (and a really small amount of coding!) in WinMo/CHT. I am an intelligent guy, but I am beginning to think that everyone who's really into Android is speaking a different language to me! I have searched and read and searched and read, but really hope there is someone out there who knows what they are talking about to answer these few utterly basic questions which I can't find simple answers to
1. Are all of these builds that are being cooked for HD2 already rooted (I did say basic!)?
2. If not, how do I tell and what do I need to do?
3. Does Magdlr allow you the option of retaining WinMo on device and booting into an SD/RAM Android build?
4. What is ADB and does it do anything I can't already do on my phone with ESExplorer/Root Explorer/Titanium Backup?
5. What does mount/unmount SD card mean?
6. How can I tell what mods from other device threads can be safely applied - is it basically whatever device the HD2 ROM is based off is a safe bet for mods (framework.res, etc)?
7. Why is it all the devs never answer reasonable questions in their own threads and everyone in the Android forums treats you like a total idiot if you don't know EVERYTHING already! (Don't need an answer to this one, just blowing off steam )
So please, if anyone can stoop low enough to offer me answers in my quest for a basic understanding PLEEEEEASE do. And if we can make this thread a safe haven for fellow idiots to ask blindingly stupid questions of their own then so much the better
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1. Most of them are, if not, you read the 1st post and it's most likely being mentioned there.
2. Read 1.
3. No. You can check the Android Development Section (non NAND) to use builds running from the SDcard so you can keep your WinMO)
4. It's a piece of software where you can edit/copy/add files and scripts to your connected Android device. Personally I don't use this.
5. IT mounts, or unmounts your sdcard. (Please do a google search)
I'll leave the other answers for what they are... as you are blowing off steam.
The only thing i can tell you is to read before you start. There are topics for first time users that explain how everything works. Read these topics and i doubt that anything can go wrong.
Sorry if this is not a satisfying answer, but there are more and more of these threads piling up with questions where answers easily can be found on XDA and if not, Google a little bit. I've been answering so many questions from people that or "can't find" the answer or simply are too lazy to do some homework before they take the plunge into Android.
1. They are supposed to be but sometimes the end up not been rooted properly.
2. Just install z4root from market.
3. No, it was suppsoed to have this feature originally but not sure if they changed mind or posponed it.
7. Because devs get far too many questions that have already been answered in abundance. 90% of questions can be answered if you do research. If you serach and cant find a answer then ask in the relevant questiosn forum unless the question specifically relates to a specific build. Plus devs dont always read all posts because teher is far too many retarded ones liek "hey thanks" (which is why the thaks button has now been added).
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Sorry if this is not a satisfying answer, but there are more and more of these threads piling up with questions where answers easily can be found on XDA and if not, Google a little bit. I've been answering so many questions from people that or "can't find" the answer or simply are too lazy to do some homework before they take the plunge into Android.
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Faith in XDA members duly restored, thanks. Like I said, I have read and read, and have been resisting asking these questions because I can easily find the answers to the bigger more complicated ones so though I must be missing the basics everywhere I looked. So thanks for taking the time to answer, sorry if anyone thinks this thread is unnecessary (mods please delete it if you think it needs to go).
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Faith in XDA members duly restored, thanks. Like I said, I have read and read, and have been resisting asking these questions because I can easily find the answers to the bigger more complicated ones so though I must be missing the basics everywhere I looked. So thanks for taking the time to answer, sorry if anyone thinks this thread is unnecessary (mods please delete it if you think it needs to go).
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I do admit sometimes it's a big pile of nonsense where you have to read through to get a straight answer, though with persistence and the will to know Android and setting it up, it will get you somewhere.
Next to that, I am very happy i've restored your faith in all XDA members