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this is really pissing me off. everyone is on 2.2 and i am on 1.6 WTF man :/

i really love the hardware design of the X10. the white one is a chick magnet. **** i even got 2 girls phone numbers because of the phone. its that good.... till i get home.. and HOLA slow phone. even the unlock is laggy :/
i got to ask a friend who works for Sony and he only knew one thing. we will get the xperia update on week 44.
thats in Nov. for %$%^ sake . this long to get 2.1 ? and nexus boys are on 2.2 already with flash support and 300% faster than 2.1 " which is already much faster than 1.6 "
this is too much. why they are ****ing this up ? they have a great phone. and its super phone just like the desire and nexus .
give me a break already. i am serisously considering selling it to nexus one. just to get greated with pink screen like most of the poor mfers here got on desire/nexus . sigh.
i am seriously pissed.
WHY ON EARTH THERE IS NO ROOTING YETTTTTTTTTTTT :/

Rooting wil come, you need to wait some dude!
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My guess is this poster is like four years old and should be worrying about more important things.

hey, bro. you are saying what I wanna say... this is really annoying no root...
ll_l_x_l_ll said:
i really love the hardware design of the X10. the white one is a it's a chick magnet. **** i even got 2 girls phone numbers because of the phone. its that good.... till i get home.. and HOLA slow phone. even the unlock is laggy :/
i got to ask a friend who works for Sony and he only knew one thing. we will get the xperia update on week 44.
thats in Nov. for %$%^ sake . this long to get 2.1 ? and nexus boys are on 2.2 already with flash support and 300% faster than 2.1 " which is already much faster than 1.6 "
this is too much. why they are ****ing this up ? they have a great phone. and its super phone just like the desire and nexus .
give me a break already. i am serisously considering selling it to nexus one. just to get greated with pink screen like most of the poor mfers here got on desire/nexus . sigh.
i am seriously pissed.
WHY ON EARTH THERE IS NO ROOTING YETTTTTTTTTTTT :/
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I'm hoping you didn't buy the phone with a superficial mindset... seems like you did. Lol @ superficial skanks giving out numbers because of some guy's phone.
You knew what you were getting into when you bought the phone... no update for a long time and no root available.
Just be patient. A root will come. They're trying to make progress.
I had a Nexus One. It was a great device but didn't impress me like I wanted it to. Would I recommend it to others? Definitely! Does 2.2 make me regret returning the N1? No.... though the speed and flash is nice. The speed of the phone was the one thing that I enjoyed on 2.1 so I'm sure 2.2 is even faster... and I hate laggy phones so I hope I don't get upset once my x10 comes in... but l know what I'm getting into and I need to deal with it.

+1000
SE is really pissing me off w this crap.... pls someone get rooot !

Aside from some unrooted Nexus Ones no one has 2.2 yet, and although I see little differance between 2.1 and 1.6 so I don't care about that upgrade much. Getting 2.2 by the end of the year should be SE's goal.

guys.... i have nexus one from past one month and today i got SE EX10 also...
got 2.2 on my unlocked Nexus and i must admit its amazing speed...i dont even think we would need to customize it anymore.......
and on X10, i like the hardware and the scapes.....but only thing i am looking for is root....i dont want even roms as SE itself gave nice skin to it......
so u cant compare nexus with 2.2 and X10.. until X10 gets 2.2 ...
for now we do need root........

Bialynia said:
I see little differance between 2.1 and 1.6
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Hmm i see more Huge differences. 1.6 always was buggy and had Issues , aside from speed. 2.1 would bring a immense speed advantage + the screen could use more then 65k colors as 1.6 is limited to this. Shipping the device with 1.6 was such dumb**** from SE. But it ever was that SE doesn't care about their Customers.

Yes we already know that x10 is coming with 1.6 but consider this:
Many of x10 user including me never use an Android phone before
When we do our research knowing that x10 is coming with 1.6 and most of the review tell that "1.6 is not much diff with 2.1", somemore SE promised give us update further that make us took the phone.
BUT now we are already Android user with some relative knowledge and now we knew how important 2.2 is.
So don't you SE bring us into Android and leave us in the middle of no where.

blackwindexe said:
I'm hoping you didn't buy the phone with a superficial mindset... seems like you did. Lol @ superficial skanks giving out numbers because of some guy's phone.
You knew what you were getting into when you bought the phone... no update for a long time and no root available.
Just be patient. A root will come. They're trying to make progress.
I had a Nexus One. It was a great device but didn't impress me like I wanted it to. Would I recommend it to others? Definitely! Does 2.2 make me regret returning the N1? No.... though the speed and flash is nice. The speed of the phone was the one thing that I enjoyed on 2.1 so I'm sure 2.2 is even faster... and I hate laggy phones so I hope I don't get upset once my x10 comes in... but l know what I'm getting into and I need to deal with it.
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no i didnt buy a phone to get some girls numbers. thats kinda stupid dont you think ? it just happened that i wanted a white color phone since i am sick of dark gray / or black colored phones.
also. i am sorry dude. but the X10 is laggy. its not a hardware problem. its the figgin software SE added. F##k even the unlock arrow sometimes lags. and if you think i am full of ****, your phone is coming. you tell me then what you feel.
i wouldn't be half pissed if i was on 1.6 but at least a fast software. this **** is really laggy. i use the task manager all the time just to free memory. and it still lags.
it cant be because of RAM is 256. i have tested the DROID, its also 256 and its not half as laggy as X10.
and for the other poster who think i am 4 years old with nothing else more important.. nice reply dude. shows how smart you are ... oh wait.
because i give a **** about my phone and don't pretend its cool to be outdated makes me a 4 years old ? ok there. you stay cool and stay out of my thread. maybe you will be cooler

ll_l_x_l_ll said:
no i didnt buy a phone to get some girls numbers. thats kinda stupid dont you think ? it just happened tht i wanted a white color phone since i am sick of dark gray / or black colored phones.
also. i am sorry dude. but the X10 is laggy. its not hardware problem. its the figgin software SE added. F##k even the unlock arrow sometimes lags. and if you think i am full of ****, your phone is coming. you tell me then what you feel.
i wouldnt be half pissed if i am on 1.6 but at least a fast software. this **** is really laggy. i use the task manager all the time just to free memory. and it still lags.
it cant be because of RAM is 256. i have tested the DROID, its also 256 and its not half as laggy and X10.
and for the other poster who think i am 4 years old with nothing else more important.. nice reply dude. shows how smart you are ... oh wait.
because i give a **** about my phone and don't pretend its cool to be outdate makes me 4 years old ? ok there. you stay cool and stay out of my thread. maybe you will be cooler
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you are right in every thing you said ,people here takes years to understand the big problem they fall into ,x10 is dead at only 2 monthes age

ll_l_x_l_ll said:
no i didnt buy a phone to get some girls numbers. thats kinda stupid dont you think ? it just happened that i wanted a white color phone since i am sick of dark gray / or black colored phones.
also. i am sorry dude. but the X10 is laggy. its not a hardware problem. its the figgin software SE added. F##k even the unlock arrow sometimes lags. and if you think i am full of ****, your phone is coming. you tell me then what you feel.
i wouldn't be half pissed if i was on 1.6 but at least a fast software. this **** is really laggy. i use the task manager all the time just to free memory. and it still lags.
it cant be because of RAM is 256. i have tested the DROID, its also 256 and its not half as laggy as X10.
and for the other poster who think i am 4 years old with nothing else more important.. nice reply dude. shows how smart you are ... oh wait.
because i give a **** about my phone and don't pretend its cool to be outdated makes me a 4 years old ? ok there. you stay cool and stay out of my thread. maybe you will be cooler
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RAM is actually around 384MB - I calculated more than 256MB in a test and someone else looked at a log and got more than 256Mb too.
Lagginess is down to SE's optimisation and bad firmware decision - even Android 2.0 (Original Eclair) was out months before the X10's release. (Widget list is even laggy - my pulse with a 2.1 BETA, with a 528MHz processor is smoother!

Higgins12 said:
Hmm i see more Huge differences. 1.6 always was buggy and had Issues , aside from speed. 2.1 would bring a immense speed advantage + the screen could use more then 65k colors as 1.6 is limited to this. Shipping the device with 1.6 was such dumb**** from SE. But it ever was that SE doesn't care about their Customers.
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I have not heard of a huge performance bump from 1.6 to 2.1, most of the advances in 2.1 were addressed by SE in 1.6 (bluetooth, file sharing etc) I could care less about the number of colors, they're not nearly as important as the quality of the screen and X10 trumps the Nexus Ones. The speed advantage will be in 2.2, and it's why while I didn't care that X10 shipped with 1.6 instead of 2.1, I do care whether they upgrade to 2.2 or not. They stated this is a phone that would get continuous support, I expect 2.2 on our X10's.

SE needs to just give out the 2.1 update right now! and release the 2.2 update in Q3-Q4.. This is ridiculous!! I haven't used any other android phone b4 I purchased the X10 and have nothing to base comparison of 1.6 & 2.1 based phones. What i do know is like others said on this thread Hardware isn't holding back the device, the damn laggy software is! SE please stop being stuck up snobs (AKA Apple) and listen to your customers.. I love this phone and hate to see it handicapped by the stubbornness of the manufacturer..

ll_l_x_l_ll said:
no i didnt buy a phone to get some girls numbers. thats kinda stupid dont you think ? it just happened that i wanted a white color phone since i am sick of dark gray / or black colored phones.
also. i am sorry dude. but the X10 is laggy. its not a hardware problem. its the figgin software SE added. F##k even the unlock arrow sometimes lags. and if you think i am full of ****, your phone is coming. you tell me then what you feel.
i wouldn't be half pissed if i was on 1.6 but at least a fast software. this **** is really laggy. i use the task manager all the time just to free memory. and it still lags.
it cant be because of RAM is 256. i have tested the DROID, its also 256 and its not half as laggy as X10.
and for the other poster who think i am 4 years old with nothing else more important.. nice reply dude. shows how smart you are ... oh wait.
because i give a **** about my phone and don't pretend its cool to be outdated makes me a 4 years old ? ok there. you stay cool and stay out of my thread. maybe you will be cooler
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I won't argue with the speed and I hate slow phones. And judging from pre-release software (even though they supposedly fixed it) I can tell that lag will be apparent in the x10 especially without a simple post-release update to fix common bugs. It's annoying that SE won't fix it so soon but apparently an update is coming within the next few weeks. Seems like some people's phones don't lag and some have very laggy ones so it could just be some people got the short end of the stick... either way... it needs an update.
I always wanted the x10 and backed away once I realized it was still launching with 1.6... but when I used the N1 the whole 2.0 issue wasn't a big deal for me.
My argument is that you can't have an issue with 1.6... because it's your fault for buying the phone knowing that it came with it. However, the bugs and laggy software... that's a good enough reason to be upset. The bugs on the N1 annoyed me just enough to make me feel ok getting rid of it... and it was still a great device that I wouldn't mind keeping.
If you really want to... get rid of the x10 now while you can still salvage some money from it. By the end of the summer the price will drop.
And yeah, people need to stop praising the x10 like it's the greatest android phone ever... because it's not. It's a good device though but it needs an update.
Also, I only buy the white version of phones whenever possible as well, just because they are less common.

I came to this forum looking for mature discussion about phones, instead, there's just a bunch of whiners who buy things with their parents money and then complain when the phone doesn't give them a blow job.
It's a phone for crying out loud. It does everything it's supposed to, as advertised. Updates are coming. If you're so immature that you can't wait a few months, do everyone a favor, go get some other phone, and go away.

iead1 said:
It's a phone for crying out loud. It does everything it's supposed to, as advertised. Updates are coming. If you're so immature that you can't wait a few months, do everyone a favor, go get some other phone, and go away.
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Funny that you should say that mate, but when I got mine the week it was released in the UK, I struggled to text and make calls!
The SE keyboard was not registering Key presses e.g "A".
During a call the volume was far too quiet and I struggled to hear the person on the other end (even at max volume). The screen wouldn't always wake either for me to be able to end the call.
I guess you can argue that it still did everything, but just not very well!
TimeScape make the UI really sluggish set as home and MediaScape cannot create playlists and misses key presses.
Facial recognition is hit and miss and has a habit of losing its entire memory.
I had to debrand and upgrade the firmware to make it pass as useable and replace the keyboard with HTC one.
I was aware of the phones shortcomings when I purchased so I know that it is my own fault.
However reason I still went ahead with the purchase was because SE reps and reviews told me 2 things.
1. The delayed release was to fix the major issues with UX integration
2. It wouldn't be long before it would be upgraded to 2.1
So I personally can understand why some people are moaning.

ok honestly, i gave this alot of thoughts yesterday and i made up my mind. i am going to sell my xperia x10 today in the phone market.
i will try to find a used nexus 1 in a good condition. if i cant, then i will buy new one today anyway since i don't have a second phone.
i am just hoping for used one so i dont pay much extra.
**** this really. let them shove that pretty white phone up their ass. i was stupid for buying one.
i hope you guys have fun with your phone, and i hope you will be able to get it rooted very soon. by the time they do som the new iphone will probably be out in few months and even the EVO 4g World wide " **** this CDMA **** too " but yeah.
maybe the other guys who were bashing in this thread will shut up and be happy.
peace

blackwindexe said:
I had a Nexus One. It was a great device but didn't impress me like I wanted it to. Would I recommend it to others? Definitely! Does 2.2 make me regret returning the N1? No.... though the speed and flash is nice. The speed of the phone was the one thing that I enjoyed on 2.1 so I'm sure 2.2 is even faster... and I hate laggy phones so I hope I don't get upset once my x10 comes in... but l know what I'm getting into and I need to deal with it.
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Serious mistake returning the N1, 2.2 is amazing. Speed of it unreal, browser is almost as fast as a desktop browser. Flash, wireless tethering, chrome to phone is amazing.
How can you go backwards to 1.6?!?!!

Decided to jump ship.. switching to HTC desire

Who is with me?
With all the gripes that we have with this phone right now, including no 2.1 for a 8 months (by which time SE will launch a newer Android device and pay no attention to X10 owners) as well as multitouch, live wallpapers, hundreds of apps that dont run on anything less than 2.1 etc etc, I think its high time we hit SE where it hurts.
Bring on AMOLED, 512 MB RAM, native flash and 2.2 around the corner.
Who needs a 8MP camera. Seriously, all cameras on mobile phones are **** anyways.
The screen size is a tad smaller, but so is the phone (which is better in my books).
Any other reasons anyone can think of apart from the obvious?
Just about to flog it on fleebay/gumtree

You sound horribly insecure. Its just a phone. Relax for god sake.

thats because i probably am... or perhaps just enlightened...
more fits of insecurity coming your way

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You sound horribly insecure. Its just a phone. Relax for god sake.
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Exactly its phone nothing more. Jheeze what a pointless thread.

I sincerly hope you are satisfied once you switch.
The X10 is as advertised and I am happy with it as is.

Im sure you are all very happy with the device at hand and this is probably not the best forum for this topic, although I know of a lot of users here who feel the same way about the X10 and would be willing to move away.
If not now, than a couple of months down the line, you will all be singing the same tune when most of the apps stop offering upgrades on the 1.6 platform.

Everyone's opinion is welcome and a forum (any) is the perfect place to express it.
I respect your opinion and your reasoning as it does have merit.
For me, this is my first run on Android.
I like the SE UI and the apps are secondary to me.

i'm with you. but i'm going for the nexus one. receiving that piece of sexy tomorrow.

I will wait another month or so, to see if we get it rooted. If not, ill be getting a 4G when available in the UK

boring htc phones
To be very honest i think Desire and Nexus are both boring not so well designed phones. They´re geek phones with no aesthetics. X10 it´s way more sleek, elegant and big! Froyo will come as well to the X10... just patience my friends. Who know we get the phone rooted pretty soon...

Don't let the door hit you on the way out!

seriously im getting tired of these "omg ive had it with this x10 gotta sell it" go ahead , no one really cares. coming from 2.1, i still dont care if the x10 is still 1.6, its fast,sexy and its just a phone! im all for root, and itll come. for now though people who dont sit at home all day in mommys basement are enjoying the x10.
i certainly hope puberty doesnt confuse you as much as your x10 dilemma.
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anyone who is happy with the way the x10 is right now is seriously either super retard OR cant/doesnt have the money/whatever reason to switch to another phone. "ofcourse i am talking software wise " not the phone it self in general as i used to have X10 and i love the design of the phone more than my new nexus 1
anyway OP. i did the same yesterday, i bought the Nexus 1 tho. mainly because i never like the HTC interface and i figure that phones like nexus and motorolla droid are always faster to get updates " since i wont wait for htc to implement their software into the phone before updating.
the guy at the store promised me not to sell my x10 for a week " he is a friend " if SE annouce 2.2 by then or the phone get rooted " haha wtf i am thinking " then great i will get it back. if not, then the hell with SE. let them shove the phone up their @$$. or some unlucky mfer buy it

let us know if it hurts when yours drop too...wait there should be a thread for prepubescent b00ns...
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Seriously just keep the x10 for now. Root will come sooner or later. You knew the x10 would come with 1. 6 then why did you buy it in the first place? If I have the patience to wait for 2. 1 or root then so does everyone else, unless you don't have a life and loaft around xda starting useless threads saying ur gonna sell your x10 for another phone. If so go ahead no one is stopping you. We don't need to know anything else. As far as I know this is the xperia x10 thread.
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i'm going to be keeping the x10 for a while even after my nexus one gets here today.
i have faith in x10. but the phone seriously is limited by the OS. the nexus one's looks are a matter of opinion and mostly on taste. i love the way it looks but all the good features are on newer OS.
we all knew Android would be updated. but i don't think people expected the phone to have such a long wait for an update with an outdated OS. you get an android phone these days for the reason that the OS will only get better with updates. everyone sees the petition thread, right?
if OS didn't mean a thing and that it didn't have any issues for the X10, no one would be complaining.

Moving to another phone in the future?
Maybe.
HTC? No way ..
What else?
A new iteration of Nexus, maybe a better Galaxy S (one with flash for camera) or a Motorola Motoroi if they decide to sell it in US/Canada.
But really... HTC?
I'm sorry to say but you are crazy
Giving your X10 for HTC Desire/Legend or Nexus One is pointless.
None of them is as good as X10.

tuxStyle said:
But really... HTC?
I'm sorry to say but you are crazy
Giving your X10 for HTC Desire/Legend or Nexus One is pointless.
None of them is as good as X10.
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pointless ? ..... what planet are you from ?

I agree with miguelsantos1979.
1st Gen AMLOED screens are not overly impressive, my friend has the Desire and he struggles to see the screen in direct sun light.
If you want to change the handset, change it rather then write a post like a spoilt child

Well, assuming that people don't have the cash to switch to another phone when they are having a X10 is the most useless comment I read here since I became a member, it's not about having cash my friend, it's about what you expect from something you bought and if the product suits you or not.
Fortunately everyone is different, I like my X10 eventhough on my X1 I was able to make my own themes and tweaked whatever I wanted. Ashame some games can't be installed because of the fact it is still running on 1.6, but that's not worth getting another phone for me personally. I will wait for the updates, and as soon as SE comes with the update, there will be something new to complain about. That is how it works in this fastgrowing technology world we live in.
Another point can be not everyone goes so deep in their phones as we do, and for "normal" people the X10 is fantastic as it is. SE want to sell big with this phone, so making it to complicated scares of the average customer who just buys a phone based on the looks of it, and you have to admit, the first time you had the X10 in your hand, it was looking good
Just relax and take a beer after you bought yourself another phone
Cheers,
Arnold

Q. about And. 2.2 install on the X10

Hey everyone
I have tried to search the forum about how to install the 2.2 on the X10. Or even the 2.1
So my question is, if there's someone who know the easy way or if it is at all possible?
I am also wondering if the Fryo update for the Nexus one can be used, and then what with the SE functions, will the camera still work and at what resolution.
Kindly
Simon
Denmark

its not fully rooted.. bootloader still to go.. then 2.1 or 2.2 will depend on the chefz who cook the custom rom.. correct me if im wrong!
not sure about the camera resolution and stuff but I'm sure having android 2.x wil give us hd recording and 16M screen..
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Thanks
Well thats just to bad right now
But i hope the people soon get it working. If i can install Android 2.2 on my x10 before Iphone 4 comes to Denmark. I will donate the money i've put aside to buy the iphone 4, and postpone the buy to the second shipment to Denmark...
Well i just gotta have the iPhone. I'm a Apple fan yes
Looking forward to installing Fryo, when its possible.
Kindly
Simon

You'll be an Apple fan until you realise you can't hold it the way you're used to or the screen goes yellow. Look up Iphone 4 issues online before you buy it
POS in my opinion, but I'm an Apple hater.

Well, i suggest for you to take of your Apple goggless off, and open your eyes... Im not saying that iPhone is crap, but by the issues the first ones are having, i rather wipe ass by the money then spend it on iphone...
So, i suggest for you to wait few more months that they fix the problems... But like you sayd, your apple fanboy, so you would buy red brick by 1000$, if they call i it iphone
http://www.riemurasia.net/jylppy/media.php?id=72293&c=11
EDIT: And no, Im not Apple hater, or fanboy... Just can't see point spending 500$ on mobilephone, that cant be used for calling...

Mobzter said:
its not fully rooted.. bootloader still to go.. then 2.1 or 2.2 will depend on the chefz who cook the custom rom.. correct me if im wrong!
not sure about the camera resolution and stuff but I'm sure having android 2.x wil give us hd recording and 16M screen..
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It IS fully rooted. 'Rooting' is when you gain linux 'root' permissions, and can do whatever you want with the system. It is even more so than with Windows, because you can't change the windows kernel, but you can with Linux, on which everything is run.
If you want a froyo rom, just wait. A method is probably being worked on jerpelea, Bin4ry, Maryland Cookie etc. In fact they are trying to get a custom kernel running which will allow us to do this. Just look at some of the threads on the X10 Android Development section.
I'm not as knowledgeable as the devs here, but I try to do some research so I can at least partly understand what is going on, and learn some things along the way.
Sorry about the rant...

Hi fellow X10 users ! first time question here on the forum. Is there anyone who has installed 2.2 on the x10?!

Are you kidding ? Can you read ? It is impossible to have Froyo on X10.
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It is unbelievable...people can write but can't read
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No offense, but do people not do even a little research about their phone before they buy it?

That is why he is sn apple fan. Wikipedia classify apple fan as
1. Idiots that doesn't reseach
2. People who want to get ibto the crowd by hlding up his iphone
3. Rich people who throw money down the sink
4. Brainless zombie
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ozd said:
No offense, but do people not do even a little research about their phone before they buy it?
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Annoyingly, most people don't...
That's why so many people still bought the iPhone 4, with it's signal problems. The problem is not terrible, but it shouldn't have happened - function should always be prioritised over form.

wrongfeifong said:
That is why he is sn apple fan. Wikipedia classify apple fan as
1. Idiots that doesn't reseach
2. People who want to get ibto the crowd by hlding up his iphone
3. Rich people who throw money down the sink
4. Brainless zombie
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You know what's twenty times worse than an Apple fan?
An Anti-Apple fan.
Seriously, who gives a crap what others like. Doesn't make them "brainless zombies" or "idiots that don't research." People tend to buy things that they want. Don't try to justify yourself by putting others down, it makes you look far worse.

iead1 said:
You know what's twenty times worse than an Apple fan?
An Anti-Apple fan.
Seriously, who gives a crap what others like. Doesn't make them "brainless zombies" or "idiots that don't research." People tend to buy things that they want. Don't try to justify yourself by putting others down, it makes you look far worse.
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no it doesnt. hes right

we are going waaaaaay off topic....again.
it is strange how we end up always talking about that ****ty Iphone
We are talking about the Iphone more than the X10, on a X10 forum.
Hhmm strange...

What annoys me the most is not whether you are an Iphone fan or not, but not researching and asking questions that are obviously, not answerable.
Does anyone really think that there is some secret society keeping everyone else from knowing if an upgrade is available? In this age of instant news, I bet the moment the X10's program loader is hacked, the news will instantly spread and custom roms will soon show up.
...and before people ask whether other phone's Roms can be used once the program loader is hacked, the answer is no. It takes a lot of experimentation just because of differences in the hardware.
I guess I am tired of reading this question over and over again.

I'm glad the x10 doesnt have a dedicated keyboard made the x1 far to chunky and i never used it. Anyone remember the full qwerty keyboard that you could plug into the bottom of the T18 & T28 it was quality

tris1979 said:
I'm glad the x10 doesnt have a dedicated keyboard made the x1 far to chunky and i never used it. Anyone remember the full qwerty keyboard that you could plug into the bottom of the T18 & T28 it was quality
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Well the X10 Mini Pro (with a hardware keyboard) is only like 1mm thicker than the regular Mini...

Keep it or Switch it.

Hey Guys.
Might be flamed for this, but at this point in time I don´t really care.
Im SO tired of this 1.6 even after the small update and the rooting, im tired of not being able to install programs not supporting 1.6 anymore, tired of not being able to update programs for the same reason.
Tired of not having things like Live wallpaper etc.
When is the 2.1 update comming, and why is it not 2.1, SE is so slow.
The X10 is probarbly the only phone on the marked STILL running 1.6 i mean WTF.
im selling my X10 and getting the HTC Desire, will throw the 2.2 on it, and im sure it will make me more happy
How is it with other X10 users ?

just go ahead. im happy with X10 and waiting for upgrade to 2.1 in my opinion, Desire is too ugly to hold. everyone has different perception of a cellphone. so it is meaningless to ask for others' comment.
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I wish you all the best and hope you find true happiness.

I guess you haven't been watching the dev forum soooo peace.

You should own what makes you happy. I am frustrated too for SE slowness with updating but nothing out there is as sweet as X10 in looks, comfort, and sexiness to my taste. Not even close. So, I am happy to be stuck with this beast.
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well, in my opinion, somehow it will be your loss.
1.surely, you'll be missing some features of x10 like the 4" screen that SE have and the 8MP camera.
2. Not all likes to have a live wallpaper (put your picture as a wallpaper they'll know and wonder why you're still aLIVE. KIDDING)
3. there's still loads of good apps that you can download for SE (1.6).
I'm telling you aside from being much faster due to rom (and update available if you want to include) SE looks better.

iom_jack said:
well, in my opinion, somehow it will be your loss.
1.surely, you'll be missing some features of x10 like the 4" screen that SE have and the 8MP camera.
2. Not all likes to have a live wallpaper (put your picture as a wallpaper they'll know and wonder why you're still aLIVE. KIDDING)
3. there's still loads of good apps that you can download for SE (1.6).
I'm telling you aside from being much faster due to rom (and update available if you want to include) SE looks better.
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I Can´t agree with you more m8, the X10 is by far one of the best looking phones out there.
I think the saying goes, Newer Judge A Book By It´s Cover

torzo said:
Tired of not having things like Live wallpaper etc.
When is the 2.1 update comming, and why is it not 2.1, SE is so slow.
The X10 is probarbly the only phone on the marked STILL running 1.6 i mean WTF.
How is it with other X10 users ?
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I can't be bothered to look it up, but...
1) Live wallpaper? Really? That's what you're upset about?
2) I don't think SE has announced several times, on multiple websites and press releases that 2.1 is coming Q3 (around September). They haven't announced it at all.
3) When the X10 was released, several phones were on the market with 2.1. Yet, you knowingly purchased a phone with 1.6. Who is to blame? The company for clearly marketing the phone as 1.6 or the customer who purchased the 1.6 phone, just to ***** about it having 1.6? I'll let you decide that one.
As for me? Best phone I've ever used. Every time I use my friend's iPhone 4, I get happy once I grab my X10. My Blackberry never was this nice. Even my insane high-end Japanese cell phone that I could use as a credit card, train ticket, and television with a 10MP camera, true flash, and HD recording isn't as nice as the X10. I'm happy, and I can certainly wait a month or two for 2.1.

iom_jack said:
well, in my opinion, somehow it will be your loss.
1.surely, you'll be missing some features of x10 like the 4" screen that SE have and the 8MP camera.
2. Not all likes to have a live wallpaper (put your picture as a wallpaper they'll know and wonder why you're still aLIVE. KIDDING)
3. there's still loads of good apps that you can download for SE (1.6).
I'm telling you aside from being much faster due to rom (and update available if you want to include) SE looks better.
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+ Desire is not useable in sunlight

iead1 said:
3) When the X10 was released, several phones were on the market with 2.1. Yet, you knowingly purchased a phone with 1.6. Who is to blame? The company for clearly marketing the phone as 1.6 or the customer who purchased the 1.6 phone, just to ***** about it having 1.6? I'll let you decide that one.
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Haha well said and 2.1 update was to come in Q4, BUT now it's coming in Q3.

Oh great another whaaaaaaaaaaaaa thread!
Good luck with that OP.

Are You Mental...........
Well thats an interesting question, of course its a choice of personal preferance, but just look at the X10...............damn good looking handset, but if superficial attraction isnt your thing then i suggest trying it out, mine does everything i ask of it, used to have battery issues but since i updated to RB020 it isnt a problem, hit the 90 hour mark before needing to plug in for a recharge and that was with moderate usage calls and text and some facebucket, most are complaining about the 3g sucking the battery but i believe they are forgetting that these mobiles arent designed for web fanatics and their social websites, if you want to sit allday on your web get a laptop, as far as on the go communication goes its perfect, and with the update fast approahing it will only get better, the camera is sweet as it gives clear and detailed images, ok the call volume sucks if you are in a noisy enviroment but ive been using my handsfree so no problem, sensititvity is spot on, and of course it looks excellent............

+1 on that Andiiboy

1. Im SO tired of this 1.6 even after the small update and the rooting,
2.im tired of not being able to install programs not supporting 1.6 anymore,
3.tired of not being able to update programs for the same reason.
4.Tired of not having things like Live wallpaper etc.
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1.Learn java/android and help the dev team with the 2.1/2.2 FW
2.Learn java/android and make the app compatible with your version
3.Learn java/android and write your own programs, or better yet wait for app inventor.
4.OMG I to want to sit and watch live wallpaper!!
X10 definetely has the potential to be great and the true fans will stick it out. So if your looking for reasons to stay you will not get one from me. I think you have already made up your mind so I think the saying goes "Dont let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya"

Just wait once 2.1 comes out its going to be one of the best 2.1 android out there.....
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iead1 said:
I can't be bothered to look it up, but...
1) Live wallpaper? Really? That's what you're upset about?
2) I don't think SE has announced several times, on multiple websites and press releases that 2.1 is coming Q3 (around September). They haven't announced it at all.
3) When the X10 was released, several phones were on the market with 2.1. Yet, you knowingly purchased a phone with 1.6. Who is to blame? The company for clearly marketing the phone as 1.6 or the customer who purchased the 1.6 phone, just to ***** about it having 1.6? I'll let you decide that one.
As for me? Best phone I've ever used. Every time I use my friend's iPhone 4, I get happy once I grab my X10. My Blackberry never was this nice. Even my insane high-end Japanese cell phone that I could use as a credit card, train ticket, and television with a 10MP camera, true flash, and HD recording isn't as nice as the X10. I'm happy, and I can certainly wait a month or two for 2.1.
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mind show me how yours insane high end cell phone look like?
Anyhow, why get a desire. Isn;t Evo 4g the highest tier of HTC that is out in he market.
for OP: Just don't come back crying to us when our x10 can shoot laser beams and call in Godzilla to step on those Iphone users and use the "FORCE".

If you get a new iphone 4 you will get a free case/bumper.....

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If you get a new iphone 4 you will get a free case/bumper.....
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But there is no reception problem with the phone, it's just a software error. If Jobs said so then it must be true.
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heeelllooooo
Iphone 4 not a hardware problem but software......................well apparently, and im quoting the guys at apple, its not just a software problem but a hardware problem, they have admitted that the phone is beset with problems and has been since its conception, do yourself a favour dont waste your money, get an X10 and have the sweetest looking handset out, forget about the bad press as all these little foibles that the buyers have been grumbling about (you cant please *****es) as these will be sorted and a good few of them have been already, pretty soon we will be getting Android 2.1 (with a few added pleasures curtesy of SE, as Android 1.6 isnt a standard Android 1.6, its a customized SE version of Android so im speculating that when 2.1 comes it too will have that extra SE vava voom) and lets not forget the added bazinga bonus of having HD photo and video capture (a real bonus for all the homemade porn directors muhahahaha) so stop the grumbling pleeeeeaaaase, Iphone sux and X10 rocks, just hold on for a little while (and since most of you have waited longer for some action from your girlfriends) it will be over in a flash but worth the wait!!!!! muhahahahaha

Another dissapointed user - another phone

here appeard many posts like this and sadly I have to say that I want a different android phone, defenetly not SE. They are losing their customers.
What other phone would you recommend? I was thinking about milestone xt720. Maybe there is something more interesting?

Instead of spamming these boards, why don't you go to a board where you can get answers unobjectively. Also, SE already got your money, they don't care if you sell the phone.
These threads are useless and must be deleted at all costs.

iead1 said:
Also, SE already got your money, they don't care if you sell the phone.
These threads are useless and must be deleted at all costs.
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+1! I can understand the frustration, but don't get why people are selling their phones right now, that's just cutting your nose off to spite your face imo.

Well I got rid of mine because I've had enough of SE dragging their heels, I'm running 2.2 on my HD2 and its the best move I have made tbh.
I know SE already have my money, but I didn't see the point of sticking with something I wasn't happy with.
I know its only a phone at the end of the day and all the normal stuff worked, its just SE's policy on providing support, Ohh its ok the users who gave us there hard earned cash can wait for their update as we already have their cash.
I hope the devs can do somethin with the X10 as it is a cracking piece of kit and not worthy of running 1.6.
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Hows that desire HD rom

Here's a thought:
Instead of venting on this board where X10 users and hobbyist developers gather to exchange ideas why not send a wellformulated email to something like SE sales or SE's customer services? Most of us here have no connection to SE other than owning one of their phones. Some of us don't even have a choice and couldn't switch if we wanted to.
Coming here to vent won't really do anything other than piss people off which is kind of counter-productive. Even if some here agree with your views there's not a lot we can do other than trying to do the best we can with what we got.
If you hope to accomplish something or even get SE to recognize your problems then the best way is really to write a proper message to SE explaining your stance. It's a long-shot but there's always a chance that they will listen to the critique and act on it.
*****ing to us X10 users helps no one, most of us don't even care and it just takes up your time.

Just create a thread for all these complainers about leaving their phone yada yada yada. Simple.

I agree, if you don't like then leave and join other forum for the phone you want.
Most phone manufacturers are concern about making money and that is business so no choice.
Leave us alone here as there are some of us who still like our X10 including myself.

chongbh said:
Leave us alone here as there are some of us who still like our X10 including myself.
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Hear, hear. Even though we're stuck on 1.6 for now I still love the display and design of the hardware.

ddewbofh said:
Hear, hear. Even though we're stuck on 1.6 for now I still love the display and design of the hardware.
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Yes, we like and love the phone not because it has updated OS but it is the phone hardware and specs which makes us attracted to it.
Even if the phone is updated with the latest OS like 2.2 or even 3.0 but the outlook of the phone don't look nice or the specs of the hardware is not advance, holding the phone don't makes us feel good as well.
It is the same like cars, even though your car is powerful but the design of the car do not look good, less people will buy it.
Just my sharing.

kubbek said:
here appeard many posts like this and sadly I have to say that I want a different android phone, defenetly not SE. They are losing their customers.
What other phone would you recommend? I was thinking about milestone xt720. Maybe there is something more interesting?
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xt720 is nice but is older than X10.
Slowe CPU too.
And Motorola is locking their devices too.
If you want to switch, at least go to a HTC where you can play with them as much as you want.
The bad part, HTCs are ugly phones

I'm seling my X10 to go for a Captivate.
I know the camera is worse, but at least the bootloader is already hacked so CM6 is the way to go.

tuxStyle said:
xt720 is nice but is older than X10.
Slowe CPU too.
And Motorola is locking their devices too.
If you want to switch, at least go to a HTC where you can play with them as much as you want.
The bad part, HTCs are ugly phones
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Calling them ugly is a bit harsh imo, non-descript is a better name for it. They're basic and they don't stand out. They're sort of like the VW Passat, the design is perfectly fine but also very forgettable at the same time.

iead1 said:
Instead of spamming these boards, why don't you go to a board where you can get answers unobjectively. Also, SE already got your money, they don't care if you sell the phone.
These threads are useless and must be deleted at all costs.
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Delete these threads? Why? Coz you love your x10?
Well good for you, but others don't and this is a forum for discussion and people should be allowed to give negative opinion on a product that has not been delivered as promised.
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jayman1986 said:
Delete these threads? Why? Coz you love your x10?
Well good for you, but others don't and this is a forum for discussion and people should be allowed to give negative opinion on a product that has not been delivered as promised.
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You're right. This board is for discussion. However, do they require a new thread each time?
Hmmm.. you guys obviously wouldn't care much assuming you don't donate to the board to help maintain it. I bet if you did you'd care much more about people who posts useless threads like this.

jayman1986 said:
Delete these threads? Why? Coz you love your x10?
Well good for you, but others don't and this is a forum for discussion and people should be allowed to give negative opinion on a product that has not been delivered as promised.
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I'm pretty sure all the features that were promised on the the box are working fine. Don't get confused with the ramblings you hear on the internet, they are the wants of users, not the promises of se.
I want features such as froyo, 16 million colours, flash etc. as much as anyone, but such things were never promised. And lack of 16 million colours isn't aproblem, you would be hard pressed to see the difference, unless you have a fascination with looking at colour gradients. And no multitouch, even though it has been denied as a feature countless times is a blessing. If there was multitouch you can say goodbye to using the phone one handed. Multitouch gestures are stupid, pointless and annoying.
So if you want to sell your phone, then godspeed to you. But please don't complain to other users that enjoy theirphone, just because you didn't research properly what this phone is capable of.
No offence intended, this is an open discussion and that is my point of view, if you can show evidence of broken promises then be my guest. Delay in 2.1 update doesn't count, release dates for software slip, its a fact of life. Deal with it.
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ddewbofh said:
Calling them ugly is a bit harsh imo, non-descript is a better name for it. They're basic and they don't stand out. They're sort of like the VW Passat, the design is perfectly fine but also very forgettable at the same time.
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IMO a dogs backside could design something more attractive than a desire lol
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Why do some people think others care if they got a new phone LOL. I bet the honeymoon will last no more then a few weeks with their new device, then they will complain about some issues they have with it.
Sony has made some stupid moves IMO but whatever company you go to the situation will be the same. At most you will get one major update and some bugfix updates.

I blew off alot of steam about how the 2.1 update wouldn't even include 16m colors...I then got really pissed about SE delaying our 2.1 update til October. I for sure said some things out of anger....but one thing I remember clearly is that I ditched a Nexus One running 2.2 (froyo) for my X10. I loved my Nexus One, it was truly amazing....but something about the X10 pulled me to it. I find with my X10 I love it more and enjoy it much more than the Nexus One. That said, I know SE pissed alot of people off..including myself....but there's no need to ditch a phone that you know you loved because SE delayed the update. Honestly look at it this way, is your phone going to die? will it not live for another month until 2.1? will you die? can you just give your phone the chance of running 2.1 before you are so quick to judge....maybe just MAYBE!! SE are being secretive about something in the update...maybe not. But I have a damn good feeling when 2.1 drops to the X10 some people will be coming back to it....because SE will get there **** together and really deliver on this. If im wrong, then you can flame me. People have just a little more patience for the update.
just my two cents

NightSidew1nd3r;
So if you want to sell your phone said:
Well firstly he's not specifically aiming it at people who are happy with their phone, cox there are many who are unhappy.
And research properly before you buy?- like I replied to another SE fanboy on another thread, I bought my phone in March and SE did not make anything clear when phone releasing the phone- everything was rumours. And at that time all mobile phone sources were hinting an update to 2.1 before summer.
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