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With the new PRL update did everyone get increased signals and speeds?
My personal best at home and at a location I am very familiar with was 5.5 Mbps and I thought that was more than good enough.
Well today I tested and my bars increased in my home office by 1 or 2 bars(up and down) and I just got over 11.50 Mbps!
Nice job Sprint. Anyone else get much better results lately through the radio update and PRL change?
I don't get 4g in my house, but I did notice a speed increase with my 3g coverage. I'm in a weak signal area and got around 200-400 kbps with the old prl, and now with the new prl I get 500-700 kbps.
abanh said:
I don't get 4g in my house, but I did notice a speed increase with my 3g coverage. I'm in a weak signal area and got around 200-400 kbps with the old prl, and now with the new prl I get 500-700 kbps.
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Can't complain about double right?
I also did notice my 3G speed increased as well. I am fortunate to have 4G as now I have a tethering solution wirelessly and USB for PC and MAC
I hope Sprint continues down the path they have been going lately and get a foothold of the 3.5G(4G) market. I am liking their Customer Service and their speeds along with their phones. They are finally understanding the game.
Yeah, I see better signal and 3g speeds with the new prl. Lakeland,fl
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I drive by the Sprint Campus in Overland Park, KS everyday and I have full 4G bars. I have never get over 3.5 and it's really annoying and with all the latest updates it now doesn't go past 1.8...
It's funny though because my 3G speed has in fact increased. Ok, well not so funny because I want the 5+ 4G speeds other's seem to get.
Before 2.2 I used to get spotty 4G coverage at my house with about 5mbps down/1mbps up but didn't notice any issues with battery. Now with 2.2 I consistently get 4G at my house and get about 7-8mbps down/1mbps up, but the battery life is horrible! I left 4G on this morning when I unplugged my phone from the charger around 9AM with 100% battery, its now close to 1PM and I have hardly used to phone (just checked some emails) and I am down to 20% in 4 hours. Anyone else seeing this as well??
Oh yeah, I've noticed a huge increase. Before I wouldn't go past 4MB, now I am getting Over 8MBs! Pic for proof here
I live right in the city of Seattle just northeast of downtown and in a very old building with thick brick walls. I could only get 2 or 3 bars of 3g and could not get a 4g connection at all. when I updated to froyo rooted Rom, and the radio to the 7.28 and wimax to 26023, I can now get 3 bars of 4g!
the 3g signal did not change, but after thinking wimax indoors would never happen due to the structure of my building, surrounding tall buildings, the wavelength used for 4g, and a tiny dead zone a block from my apartment, I am very pleased and surprised.
and no, I did not discover some new magical hotspot of reception inside my apartment - I checked every square inch to find the best reception for tethering in the past and set the phone at the exact same spot, on top of my 2nd window's curtain rod.
this happened before I updated the PRL, but now with the updated PRL it still works the same, so maybe it was partly the radio too?
Has anyone noticed really inconsistent 3G speeds?
Often I'll get well over 1 mbps download rates, but sometimes its disgustingly awful.
For example, 3G(not 1X) just netted me this:
68 Kbps or 0.1 Mbps (8 kB/s)
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(Sprint btw)
Speed depends how many bars show up when you're using Ev. Zero or 1 bar could get the result you listed, but it will be awesome if you have full bars.
That really isn't true on a cdma network. I also have seen large variance in mobile network speed, probably just from heavier traffic on sprints network.
I've had ranges from 2.1mb/s to 300kb/s on 3G.
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intx said:
Has anyone noticed really inconsistent 3G speeds?
Often I'll get well over 1 mbps download rates, but sometimes its disgustingly awful.
For example, 3G(not 1X) just netted me this:
68 Kbps or 0.1 Mbps (8 kB/s)
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(Sprint btw)
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Yeah, I get that every day. Most noticeably Mon-Fri.. I live in the Detroit area which in my opinion, barely has 3g as it is. Forget ever getting 4g here.
Anyway, after 9am my internet is unusable for anything except gmail telling me I have new emails. Even then sometimes the connection times out. Pings of over 1000ms and speedtest speeds like I'm back in 1994 on dial-up (3.4 kB/s).
2 other co-workers of mine have hero's (both stock, i'm running cm 6.0 nightlys) with the same problems.
I've called and complained a few times to which they tell me it's my phone. But no, it's not. It's your network!
Anyone else notice slower data? I used to average 7.2mbps on my Vibrant, I even scored 10mbps on a G2.
Nexus S averages out at 4mbps.... Sometimes 2.5. Highest I've got it to was 5 on a lucky day. My GF has my old Vibrant and she is getting the same download speeds.
Don't know if I should be happy or sad Lol!
Anyone else notice speed slowing down in the last 6 months?
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Anyone else notice slower data? I used to average 7.2mbps on my Vibrant, I even scored 10mbps on a G2.
Nexus S averages out at 4mbps.... Sometimes 2.5. Highest I've got it to was 5 on a lucky day. My GF has my old Vibrant and she is getting the same download speeds.
Don't know if I should be happy or sad Lol!
Anyone else notice speed slowing down in the last 6 months?
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HSDPA or HSPA+ makes no difference in the end. Reason we get a performance boost from HSPA+ even though we dont support it is HSPA+ is all in the backend.
which means faster speeds for all. Imagine what the speeds would be without HSPA+
I realize this. But speeds have been slowing down lately.
We do get the boost from HSPA+ but what slows it down is the fact that T-Mobile is getting tons of new customers... The network may get clogged and we could have an AT&T disaster!
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I realize this. But speeds have been slowing down lately.
We do get the boost from HSPA+ but what slows it down is the fact that T-Mobile is getting tons of new customers... The network may get clogged and we could have an AT&T disaster!
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hm, i noticed this too, and also, theres at least 20+ people that i know that used to have ATT/Verizon that has jumped over to tmobile in the past month or 2.
I haven't noticed any noticeable difference in average network performance over the past seven months. I haven't been clocking it, though; just speaking from my personal sense of how quickly it was downloading.
Yes, I've definitely noticed a slow down in the past 60 days.
I used to get 3800 to 4400 Kb/s on my N1. Once I switched to the NS, I've never seen faster than about 3000 Kb/s. I posted in a different thread yesterday that I ran some tests with both the N1 and the NS (using the same sim card in both) and found that the N1 no longer goes over 3000 Kb/s.
Conclusion: the service has degraded around here.
But it just occurred to me that I had been "throttled" for being a data pig last November, and the throttling was supposed to last until mid-December. Here's the interesting part, even "throttled" my speeds only declined to about 2800 Kb/s; which means I'm still getting those speeds that I got while "throttled". I wonder if they forgot to "un-throttle" me.
I'll call customer service today and double check. I'll also complain about the drop in speeds.
Is it possible you're being throttled and missed the notification?
I'm in central Florida and can say there has been a big decrease in speed here in the past 3 months. I too came from a Vibrant that my wife now uses and can say the same as the OP.
I think its a mix of things. New customers on high data use handsets utilizing that advertised 4g speed. I also think it being winter time that people are staying inside and using their phones and devices more, much like how gas use in homes goes up in the winter time. There's less to do outside, etc, so you are connecting more through electronic means. Hopefully tmo continues to expand their back haul, and they will have to to achieve those even faster than 21mbps speeds. I think conversely that in the summer you will see your speeds come back.
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Glad I'm not the only one! Let's hope it's just for the winter! Heh
Wouldn't winter help more? Since having wireless in the home? By your logic it would be worse in the summer because it's nicer weather and people travel more and need mobile data to facebook it up.
If you want to test if the service is slowing down due to many people, test it at least 4 times throughout the day with at least twice at night such as 1am and 3-4am, shouldn't be many people on then.
About 6 months ago I was on T-Mobile at which time I switched to Sprint for yearly updates and a supposedly cheaper plan. When those two things ended up not happening I switched back and I can say without a doubt that my speeds are faster. This could be due to the fact that I had a MT3G before and now have a NS or that when I was on Tmo before their HSPA network was not really available or it could be just that its faster. Either way I'm much happier as with Sprint I was topping out at 1.5mbps on 3G and now on Tmo I'm getting up to around 3.5 some times even closer to 4.
About 20 days ago I started experiencing data slowness. Before I was averaging 3.0-4.0 I called Tmobile multiply times to reset me with the towers. No luck. I have the nexus S and my girl has the vibrant. Now we can barely hit 1.0 its very frustrating I thought I was the only one but after googling and finding this thread I see Im not alone.
I have no complaints here in terms of TMOs speed. With the NS I get about 4-5mb consistently. When I was at best buy playing around with phone the MT4G hit 11mb down, although the average speed was closer to 9mb
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I have no complaints here in terms of TMOs speed. With the NS I get about 4-5mb consistently. When I was at best buy playing around with phone the MT4G hit 11mb down, although the average speed was closer to 9mb
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What part of Los Angeles are you in?
It was 3.8 - 4.2 pretty consistently near the Van Nuys Airport for a while, but now it's never more than 3.0.
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What part of Los Angeles are you in?
It was 3.8 - 4.2 pretty consistently near the Van Nuys Airport for a while, but now it's never more than 3.0.
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I'm in the Hollywood area.
It's area dependent.
Brooklyn
in 18th/68th, I get top speed (up to 9Mbps with N900), average 4-5
in home area (N train Bay Parkway), I also get top speed
in Bay Parkway/86th, the speed is slower (2-3Mbps)
in Downtown (Fulton/Jay, A/C/F/R train station), the speed is barely workable
Manhattan
in Lower Manhattan (both Canal Street and City Hall), the speed it up to 2Mbps
in Midtown (Empire State Building), the speed is much slower (no more than 1Mbps)
in Inwood (A train 207 Street), the speed is good (4-5Mbps)
The speed test was conducted with either MT4 or NS except stated.
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It's area dependent.
Brooklyn
in 18th/68th, I get top speed (up to 9Mbps with N900), average 4-5
in home area (N train Bay Parkway), I also get top speed
in Bay Parkway/86th, the speed is slower (2-3Mbps)
in Downtown (Fulton/Jay, A/C/F/R train station), the speed is barely workable
Manhattan
in Lower Manhattan (both Canal Street and City Hall), the speed it up to 2Mbps
in Midtown (Empire State Building), the speed is much slower (no more than 1Mbps)
in Inwood (A train 207 Street), the speed is good (4-5Mbps)
The speed test was conducted with either MT4 or NS except stated.
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Wouldn't the MT4G get higher speeds and skew the results since it can access HSPA+ while we can only rid the coattails of it? Since only the MT4G can access the HSPA+ (the G2 can do HSPA, I believe but it cannot do the higher speeds) wouldn't that mean that the number of devices slowing that network was significantly smaller and therefore the amount of throttling due to network bottleneck would be significantly lower. Therefore to make an accurate speed test you would have to use the same type of phone (or to be completely scientific, the same phone).
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It's area dependent.
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I've always said cell service is like real estate, it's all about location, location, location.
Your point doesn't address the real issue. Sure, in different parts of town with different devices that have different speeds abilities we're going to see different speedtest results. We'll even see different results depending on the time of day in some areas.
The issue is that those of us who were averaging some particular speed, using the same device, in the same location, at the same time-of-day are now seeing reduced speeds.
For me it's a 25% reduction, consistently, on two different devices...
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Wouldn't winter help more? Since having wireless in the home? By your logic it would be worse in the summer because it's nicer weather and people travel more and need mobile data to facebook it up.
If you want to test if the service is slowing down due to many people, test it at least 4 times throughout the day with at least twice at night such as 1am and 3-4am, shouldn't be many people on then.
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My last speedtest was at 4am lol
jlevy73 said:
I have no complaints here in terms of TMOs speed. With the NS I get about 4-5mb consistently. When I was at best buy playing around with phone the MT4G hit 11mb down, although the average speed was closer to 9mb
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It's as I feared. They're throttling non 4g devices so that the 4g devices get worlds faster. I used to max out at 7.2mbps on Vibrant. I wonder if the G2/MT4g still get 10mbps around here. Damn.
The Nexus S does get HSDPA and benefits from HSPA+. It should be maxing out at 7.2 if MT4g is getting over 7.2.
I mean. I am getting 3-5. Which is still awesome... But. I want my 7.2 back.
I thought it would be at least two more years, but I was wrong. It's not great coverage, (I have to hold my phone to the window at work) but i got 3300kbps down on the one speed test I took before my arm got tired. I'll try it outside, and see if there is a difference after work. 3G speeds have also improved significantly in the past week or so. (From 150kbps avg to 1000kbps avg)
Hooray!!
I also connected driving thru Mobile yesterday. It's not on sprints coverage map. But Clears Android app showed a couple spots with it. Only bout 2mps tho. That's with 1 bar
Edit 2 days later gettin 4.5 mbps thru mobile
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I thought it would be at least two more years, but I was wrong. It's not great coverage, (I have to hold my phone to the window at work) but i got 3300kbps down on the one speed test I took before my arm got tired. I'll try it outside, and see if there is a difference after work. 3G speeds have also improved significantly in the past week or so. (From 150kbps avg to 1000kbps avg)
Hooray!!
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Well congrats.
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I thought it would be at least two more years, but I was wrong. It's not great coverage, (I have to hold my phone to the window at work) but i got 3300kbps down on the one speed test I took before my arm got tired. I'll try it outside, and see if there is a difference after work. 3G speeds have also improved significantly in the past week or so. (From 150kbps avg to 1000kbps avg)
Hooray!!
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What part of Jackson, MS are you in? I picked up a 4g signal the other day when I accidentally turned on 4g. I've only gotten a connection in extreme north Jackson though (North of I-55 exit 100 Northside Drive). I've gotten closer to 5000kbps down on my Evo. The signal is strongest @ County Line Road.
Ft Smith and Van Buren AR are also 4G, though not on the coverage map. I've been using Sensorly to map the coverage.
Awesome to hear.. 4 g is slowly starting to pop-up in the New Orleans metro area. I now have 4g around my house but not around other parts of the city. "kinda hit or miss"
I've been literally driving around Jackson with 4g on to see what I could pick up. The 4g signal is strong downtown also. Full roll out coming soon? That would make me buy an HTC Evo View tablet in a heartbeat!
I have a USB Data Card. u301. I have an antenna plugged in to it mounted on the roof and I get full service. Speeds at around 13.6 Down, 1.40 up. I plug the Epic in and with full service. Speeds at around 2.61 Down, 0.42 up. WTF? huh...
I get 4-6 Mbps down on average with bursts above 8. 1.4 on the download. My speeds have actually gotten better over the past 2 months.
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My average with the very little 4g i have here is 2mb and lower then 1mb up download so your lucky to get what u get..
When i went to chicago a few weeks ago, i got 12mb and 1ish upload
I was impressed in chicago
4G is an absolute dead end for anyone in New York (unless you're smack in the middle of the city). Here on the upper west side, 4G is far less reliable than 3G and when it does work offers no substantial speed increase.
Just ran a few speedtests from inside my apartment here in downtown Portland, OR
12006kbps down, 1486kbps up was the best.
Pretty beefy!
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4G is an absolute dead end for anyone in New York (unless you're smack in the middle of the city). Here on the upper west side, 4G is far less reliable than 3G and when it does work offers no substantial speed increase.
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thats not entirely true. i live in brooklyn ny and i have great 4g. averages around 7-8mbps
I've tested 4g speeds all over Denver since it came here, and have seen a striking contrast in different areas that are only a few blocks apart.
Aurora seems to range from around 3 mb/1.5 mb on the high side to just under 1 mb/0.3 mb, but there are a lot of holes in coverage (and the in-and-out coverage areas at the edge of said holes, of course). Once in a while, I have seen dl speeds up to 5 mb, even 7 on two occasions, but that only lasted for a half hour at best... ul speeds have never exceeded 1.5 mb for any of my tests.
I have seen more consistent ~5 mb upload speeds in parts of southwest denver and surrounding areas (englewood, littleton, etc.), though upload still signed like it was capped at 1.5 mb. But even some of those areas have had dead zones and flaky signal.
I have had one intermittent problem that could be my phone or the network - once in a while, everything will appear as if my phone is connected just fine, but I can't reach the internet. Go back to 3g and I'm fine, but when I reconnect to 4g, whether immediately or after a few minutes, it still behaves like a local network with no internet... Anyone else have this problem in Denver?
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4G is an absolute dead end for anyone in New York (unless you're smack in the middle of the city). Here on the upper west side, 4G is far less reliable than 3G and when it does work offers no substantial speed increase.
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Nah I live in the bronx and I get great 4g lol when I'm outside though. Myhouse is a lead box, apparently. I get 1 bar inside but it barely holds on to it.
There are a few dead spots though around the city. Like, BLATANT holes inthe coverage.
But other than that, I'm completely satisfied with 4g...I even get 1MB (yes byte) consistently when I'm chillen outside.
They could lower the ping though...1MB speed is still garbage when it takes a second for your command to go through.
I remember when I bought my epic downtown the first thing I did was turn 4g on and it connected...this was in october BEFORE 4g became official in the city lol I ike sprints commitment to nyc
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what are you guys using to test these speeds and what modem(s) are you running?
2.3 modem? Mine does that anywhere. Lol. Like it just feels like taking a break whenever.
I'm on the latest leak. Prob what it is. With full service I should be getting up to where my card is. Its like its caped.
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I've noticed that the clear 4g network is going through a lot of throttling changes. I've noticed they have been keepin the phones below 8Mb most of the time and clear itself is using a bandwidth throttle that doesn't seem to have a clear reset period. Streaming video has brought my home modem and usb modem to a .67 Mb crawl for thelast few days. But when I'm not being throttled I see up to 14Mb down.one last note I have yet to see any bandwidth throttling on the phones 4g tho. Blemh I think I have to go back to comcast for home internet:-(
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I've never really used 4G on my phone. It's only functional if I turn data off, then turn 4G on and stay stationary. If I'm driving it simply stops working. At least half the time it just connects, goes to sleep and stays that way until I toggle it off.
This plus the Overdrive I used to have is pretty much a fail sandwich.
Seattle/Lynnwood/Redmond areas primarily. SRF ROM, though it's pretty consistent across ROMs.
I use speedtest.net for my tests, both on my phone with the app and my tethered laptop via the website. I have tried all but a couple of the modems (I didn't bother with some of the leaks that came out almost back to back, because there was already a newer leak when I found time to flash). The results did vary slightly between modems, but not significantly enough for any one modem to stand out as the best or worst - some almost seemed to have good and bad times of day, and not necessarily the same times between modems (probably coincidence due to the random fluctuations in connection quality that I described in my previous post)
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I decided to try it and got 12MB down lol
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I use speedtest.net for my tests
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I'm going to try this tomorrow for both 3G and 4G and will report back with the results.
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4G is an absolute dead end for anyone in New York (unless you're smack in the middle of the city). Here on the upper west side, 4G is far less reliable than 3G and when it does work offers no substantial speed increase.
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I agree completely with the above. In my apt on Upper East Side, 4g speeds are fine - but I get constant drops and terrible speeds (as in slower than 3g) on Upper West in my office. Have wifi at home so don't need 4G there, but would love to tether off 4G in my office. Sprint 4G sux
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I have a USB Data Card. u301. I have an antenna plugged in to it mounted on the roof and I get full service. Speeds at around 13.6 Down, 1.40 up. I plug the Epic in and with full service. Speeds at around 2.61 Down, 0.42 up. WTF? huh...
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What antenna did you use?
what does 995kB/s dl translate to? lol, it was insanely fast only a couple of times I tested it like 5 months back in san diego... I must have been the only guy that connected because now my 3g speeds tend to be on par with my 4g... and that was on 2.2...
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Ok so I ran a few tests on the Upper West Side this morning and the results were mildly surprising.
On 4G, I maxed out at about 6.0 Mbps down and 0.65 up with pings in the 140 range.
3G, on the other hand, maxed out at 0.3 Mbps down about 0.5 Mbps up with pings of roughly 260.
So, we've basically got no difference between 3G and 4G upstream and glorified dial-up for 3G down.
I'll try some more later from a different location.
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so I had to do a bit of driving around Manhattan today and decided to test 3G and 4G speeds in several areas. the short version of what I found: my neighborhood has the absolute worst 3G and 4G of any of the other neighborhoods I drove through. most of the Upper West Side south of me boasted around 4.6 Mbps down and 1.4 Mbps up. 3G was roughly 1.0 Mbps down and 0.85 up. In midtown, 4G was roughly 3.3 down a 1.0 Mbps up.
Compare that with my neighborhood where 3G doesn't crack 0.3 Mbps down and actually has faster upstream. I called Sprint and they claimed there is a "tower down" relatively close to me, and after some pressing, gave me a $25 credit for the down time.