I live in Bryan TX, about 75miles from Houston and as far as i know there is no HSDPA in my city yet. But i was just trying the Android build last night and it showed the H symbol for a bit. After that i never saw the H symbol, not in winMo, not in android. So was it just android reporting wrong information or was t-mobile actually testing HSDPA equipment at that time(highly unlikely but i wish they were).
Did anyone else experience android showing H even if you were not in HSDPA location?
bizmark03 said:
I live in Bryan TX, about 75miles from Houston and as far as i know there is no HSDPA in my city yet. But i was just trying the Android build last night and it showed the H symbol for a bit. After that i never saw the H symbol, not in winMo, not in android. So was it just android reporting wrong information or was t-mobile actually testing HSDPA equipment at that time(highly unlikely but i wish they were).
Did anyone else experience android showing H even if you were not in HSDPA location?
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Your proximity to A&M can cause all sorts of unexplained weirdness
lol seriously though, I understand that not only does Houston itself have HSPA+ now (it was in the first wave, Austin gets it next week), but also a large part of the surrounding area (mostly in your direction, and out towards the gulf too) are getting regular HSDPA very soon.
Note that on a stock winmo ROM you won't see an "H" in your taskbar, even if you have that type of connection...it won't display unless you're using a custom icon set (the default one is suppressed by the carrier)
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Your proximity to A&M can cause all sorts of unexplained weirdness
lol seriously though, I understand that not only does Houston itself have HSPA+ now (it was in the first wave, Austin gets it next week), but also a large part of the surrounding area (mostly in your direction, and out towards the gulf too) are getting regular HSDPA very soon.
Note that on a stock winmo ROM you won't see an "H" in your taskbar, even if you have that type of connection...it won't display unless you're using a custom icon set (the default one is suppressed by the carrier)
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Well....i see your location and i'm not surprised by your answer...and i do study at A&M.....but anyways...thanks for the response, will try installing a set of custom icons and try it out......but considering the speeds i get i dont think its HSDPA+....they dont even touch 1mbps.
bizmark03 said:
Well....i see your location and i'm not surprised by your answer...and i do study at A&M.....but anyways...thanks for the response, will try installing a set of custom icons and try it out......but considering the speeds i get i dont think its HSDPA+....they dont even touch 1mbps.
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Yeah I'm sure it's not HSDPA+ all the way up to you yet, I think they're just getting the 3G to regular HSDPA standards in the surrounding areas like yours.
Also note that even if you see an "H" in the display there, it only really means that you have a better connection with the tower, the backend elements to give you the real speed increase may or may not be in place TO that tower yet.
(to be honest with you, I couldn't really care less about the UT/A&M rivalry...I'm not from here. I just know I might get run out of town if I missed an opportunity to fire a shot like that lol)
bizmark03 said:
I live in Bryan TX, about 75miles from Houston and as far as i know there is no HSDPA in my city yet. But i was just trying the Android build last night and it showed the H symbol for a bit. After that i never saw the H symbol, not in winMo, not in android. So was it just android reporting wrong information or was t-mobile actually testing HSDPA equipment at that time(highly unlikely but i wish they were).
Did anyone else experience android showing H even if you were not in HSDPA location?
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Depeding on the Developer of the rom. Sometime they use the "H" just to show there is active data.
For example im in Madison TN and we have 3G but dont have H yet. On my phone though, using the Energy Series rom, my phone idles with a 3G but if I load a web page or trigger some kind of data activity, the 3G will turn to H and back to 3G when the data activity is done. Same with some Android Roms, they change to H for data activity and back to 3G when the phone is idle.
I mite not be 100% accurate on that but I think thats how it works on the custom roms.
On a stock rom instead of 3G idle youll see H all day if you had hsdpa in your area.
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Depeding on the Developer of the rom. Sometime they use the "H" just to show there is active data.
For example im in Madison TN and we have 3G but dont have H yet. On my phone though, using the Energy Series rom, my phone idles with a 3G but if I load a web page or trigger some kind of data activity, the 3G will turn to H and back to 3G when the data activity is done. Same with some Android Roms, they change to H for data activity and back to 3G when the phone is idle.
I mite not be 100% accurate on that but I think thats how it works on the custom roms.
On a stock rom instead of 3G idle youll see H all day if you had hsdpa in your area.
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thanks for the response, I guess you might be right there, but I'm not sure stock ROMs show the H icon, because i was in Houston last week, in the middle of downtown and my phone still showed 3G.
Staying on a similar subject can someone help me out with adding the H icon to the stock ROM, I do not want to add a custom taskbar, just looking for some reg edit, where it will show a simple H icon instead of the 3G icon when i'm in HSPA+ coverage.
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I recently updated my radio to v1.10.25.18
Now I'm getting rather poor signals from my network provider (vodafone UK)
Its always around the 2 bar mark, even when I was in central london. Sometimes it spikes to 3-4 bars but after a while it drops again.
Also, when I connect to mobile internet, the speeds are horrible!! The funny thing is that the little signal indicator changes between G, 3G and H very often.
Is this normal?? And is H the fastest??
Thanks for any help! This new phone is giving me such a headache!
Yes, H is the fastest.
Well, I have a generic X1 and definitely has NO problem with signal.
But I tell you something - also faced some problems with my operator.
What I did, I started to communicate with them often.
Due to that, I got some knowledge, like many bars doesn't always mean the best coverage.
Remember, in the centers of big cities there's also overloading effect which influences sometimes the quality of calls.
I've had it and it's normal, I mean - it's not a phone.
I was doin' some research on this topic so you can trust me.
And H on X1 gets reeeeeally fast!
I have 1-2 bars when I'm on H - its REALLLLLY SLOW. Then it will switch to 3G (also slow), occasionally just G, then back to H....etc
So the G, 3G and H icons are frequently changing. Obviously there's something wrong here... Anyone else get this?
domyue said:
I have 1-2 bars when I'm on H - its REALLLLLY SLOW. Then it will switch to 3G (also slow), occasionally just G, then back to H....etc
So the G, 3G and H icons are frequently changing. Obviously there's something wrong here... Anyone else get this?
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It's probably operators problems!
I have the same in some areas!
Also, you may be just on the border between few antennas,
so your phone picks stronger signal.
I mean, it's annoying but nothing extraordinary unfortunately.
I think I'm gonna reflash the radio.
I thought the latest one would be best, but not so. I've heard some good things about the HTC Diamond radio. Another post on this forum mentioned it increased the signal by about 2 bars.
Worth a go.
Sure.
But I bet it won't change much.
I could also compare X1 to SE P1, which has a great antenna, and no difference..
If I flash a radio and then flash a full ROM, do I need to flash that radio again??
Or do radios stay regardless of what I do with Roms??
I have had my Nexus One for a few hours now and I am very impressed, the only thing I have noticed is that the network is showing as 3G and not H for HSPDA which I would normally get where I live.
belfastbob said:
I have had my Nexus One for a few hours now and I am very impressed, the only thing I have noticed is that the network is showing as 3G and not H for HSPDA which I would normally get where I live.
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I too have noticed this. I have played with the APN's as well.
Anyone know anything about this?
don't think it is necessarily an issue below is a quote that I found on another forum
"Vanilla Android does not have an H symbol. It's an added feature of some phones.
If you want to know what you're getting dial *#*#4636#*#* then on the screen that comes up select phone information - on there is the connection type."
if you still can't find it doing hsdpa, then maybe it is a real issue
I'm kind of confused. After flashing cyan's rom, my service keeps switching between 3g and H. This has not happened prior to me flashing the rom though. What is H? Is it a fixable problem?
Could be wrong, but it's probably H for HSDPA
Oooh its actually a bonus for me at least, since before, my Nexus showed 3G whther it was connected to the faster HSDPA or to 3G (Unlike my Hero, which showed H or 3G)
will have to give CM Rom a go once my Nexus arrives back from HTC
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Cyanogen's ROM enabled the notification if you are on HSPA network. I beleive you will get 3G if your network changes to UMTS (depends on your location). The stock ROM shows 3G even if you are on the HSPA network.
Ohhhh alright. I understand then. It still bugs me though lol
Yes i can verify this is the case, reason why i jumped ship to cynogens rom
heroskyy said:
I'm kind of confused. After flashing cyan's rom, my service keeps switching between 3g and H. This has not happened prior to me flashing the rom though. What is H? Is it a fixable problem?
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since by default the phone is after the fastest avail option, it tries to get to 3G. if and when you are in the area with uncertain 3G coverage, it could scan and switch to 3G, then to HSDPA (hence - H) or even EDGE (E)
I have this mess on the stock N1 - 3G-H-E changing constantly in some areas.
bad thing is that in such case my data stalls:-( I guess it has nada to do with Cyan's ROM. fwiw
No he must have done something, normally Nexus only shows 3G even if there's HSDPA.
I have HSDPA and here with Stock ROM it only shows 3G, but you can see in the Settings at Status that you've got HSDPA.
Router said:
since by default the phone is after the fastest avail option, it tries to get to 3G. if and when you are in the area with uncertain 3G coverage, it could scan and switch to 3G, then to HSDPA (hence - H) or even EDGE (E)
I have this mess on the stock N1 - 3G-H-E changing constantly in some areas.
bad thing is that in such case my data stalls:-( I guess it has nada to do with Cyan's ROM. fwiw
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Actually, HSDPA is faster than "3G" (which I'm assuming is actually UMTS), so your phone will use HSDPA whenever it can, then downgrade to 3G if HSDPA isn't available, then EDGE, then GPRS. HSDPA is actually considered "3.5G, 3G+ or turbo 3G" according to its Wikipedia entry.
Paraglider1982 said:
No he must have done something, normally Nexus only shows 3G even if there's HSDPA.
I have HSDPA and here with Stock ROM it only shows 3G, but you can see in the Settings at Status that you've got HSDPA.
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He did do something. Someone already asked him on Twitter and he answered here.
This reminds me of my times with Windows Mobile where you'd change a registry setting to make the indicator show you had an EDGE connection instead of always showing G (for GPRS)
Quite nice, I was missing this on Nexus
Paraglider1982 said:
No he must have done something, normally Nexus only shows 3G even if there's HSDPA.
I have HSDPA and here with Stock ROM it only shows 3G, but you can see in the Settings at Status that you've got HSDPA.
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did you even read what I wrote? The stock ROM has the H icon but for some reason its disabled so that only the 3G icon shows up if you have HSPA. Cyanogen simply enabled the H icon to be usable.
I wonder why though, they would disable it...
I cant think of any solid reasons, and if it is in-fact better then "3G", You would think they would want people to know that they have a faster connection present..
but anyways, thanks cyanogen
heroskyy said:
I wonder why though, they would disable it...
I cant think of any solid reasons, and if it is in-fact better then "3G", You would think they would want people to know that they have a faster connection present..
but anyways, thanks cyanogen
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Given the confusion in this thread alone, which is presumably made up of people who know more about their phones than the general public, I think it's reasonably obvious why it's disabled. The phone companies have spent lots of money and time marketing "3G" to the public - most people will know what you're talking about if you say 3G, almost none of them will know what HSDPA is, and I doubt the cell phone company wants to spend the time to explain that it's actually better than standard 3G to every customer. It's just that much easier to make it say "3G" and be done with it.
ISTR that my Hero and Touch Diamond2 before that, and Touch Cruise before that, all showed a 3G symbol on hsdpa until you were actually downloading something - then it changed to show a H before returning to a 3G when stopped downloading.
I think!
Router said:
I have this mess on the stock N1 - 3G-H-E changing constantly in some areas.
bad thing is that in such case my data stalls:-( I guess it has nada to do with Cyan's ROM. fwiw
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@ melterx12
My Post was regarding this, it can't be that has H in display with stock ROM
So, this 'H' HSDPA signal display should be a fix in the OTA update?
Is there a possibility that someone answer here and explain how to enable H icon showing?
I think it's in framework-res.apk but don't know where exactly...
I don't want to install a cyanogenmod rom or others to have it. Who have already done it, could share that information with us...this is a forum..
+1
I want to enable the H icon on the stock ROM.
Rooted phone, custom recovery, locked bootloader.
Is this possible?
suffix642 said:
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I want to enable the H icon on the stock ROM.
Rooted phone, custom recovery, locked bootloader.
Is this possible?
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I'm not able to decompile framework-res.apk to source...i've done some tries but with apktool that's not possible...
It is not sufficient open it with winrar or similar because config.xml is in the core....
I've had the phone for a couple of weeks now, and while 3G works pretty regularly, and I see pretty quick web, I've NEVER seen the "H" symbol indicating HSDPA in use. I have it enabled, but no go...and I've been downtown Philly, downtown Orlando, and King of Prussia PA area. H should be working somewhere in there...
TMOUS BTW
dbh369 said:
I've had the phone for a couple of weeks now, and while 3G works pretty regularly, and I see pretty quick web, I've NEVER seen the "H" symbol indicating HSDPA in use. I have it enabled, but no go...and I've been downtown Philly, downtown Orlando, and King of Prussia PA area. H should be working somewhere in there...
TMOUS BTW
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Stock ROM doesnt have the H icon I believe. So while I'm sure its active and connected, its only going to say 3G. I didn't get the H icon until I flashed Energy ROM. It does change from H to 3G from time to time
All the H means is that your data connection is working at that time. It does not mean you have HSPA.
Huh, the manual on the stock rom says that 3G and H will both show depending on the connection. Any other way to check? I guess a speed test...
Something strange I've noticed with my Galaxy S II is that data / internet will only work if the 'H' (for HSDPA) is in the status bar, but not with '3G' there...the green arrow will appear next to the 3G when I try to connect to something but it will just time out unless it happens to switch to 'H'.
Anyone know why this would be? Is only the HSDPA network working with my phone, but regular 3G won't?
It is possible that the 3G cells in your area are fully loaded with users.
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nvm
i didn't read it well
Same problem here, on 3.
Wondered if it was the phone or the network! If it's a problem with the phone it'll be fixable/covered by warranty though, right?
Same here, it sits on 3g then i try to load a page etc and it goes to h like it carnt use 3g , im on t mobile and they have full coverage where i am
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I found an older thread that says it's a feature, keeping the phone in 3G mode to save battery until you do something that requires data which switches it over to H. I've kept a closer eye on my phone and that does seem to be what it's doing, usually taking a second or two to switch over each time I use data.
However, there have still been some times where it stays on 3G and is unable to load data.
Yeah i think your right and also it does not change sometimes and kinda hangs, be nice for it to switch over to H abit faster without battery drain.
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I found an older thread that says it's a feature, keeping the phone in 3G mode to save battery until you do something that requires data which switches it over to H. I've kept a closer eye on my phone and that does seem to be what it's doing, usually taking a second or two to switch over each time I use data.
However, there have still been some times where it stays on 3G and is unable to load data.
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I have the same issue with my phone to on t-mobile, not working on 3g then working on H.
It is a right pain to be honest.
No way of stopping this battery save? I would rather use more battery.
It's the network. I have no explanation but only Edge and HSDPA work whether on Samsung or Nokia.
Just tested, this does not occur for me, at least right here, right now. Comfortably loading pages on Google with just 3G signal (T-Mobile UK).
It's faster when I stand on my bed upstairs for HSDPA but 3G does work. Stock firmware from T-Mob, no modifications.
AXIS of Reality said:
Something strange I've noticed with my Galaxy S II is that data / internet will only work if the 'H' (for HSDPA) is in the status bar, but not with '3G' there...the green arrow will appear next to the 3G when I try to connect to something but it will just time out unless it happens to switch to 'H'.
Anyone know why this would be? Is only the HSDPA network working with my phone, but regular 3G won't?
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Hey mate,
I have the galaxy s i9000, with optus here in sydney. same problem, only switches to "H" when i make some sort of data request (load a page, open an app that uses internet), it takes a couple of seconds to switch from 3G to H. Sometimes, it keeps flicking back and forth between 3G and H like its having problems connecting to H
I complained to optus, they reckon i'm lying. Go figure.
joeykatoa said:
Hey mate,
I have the galaxy s i9000, with optus here in sydney. same problem, only switches to "H" when i make some sort of data request (load a page, open an app that uses internet), it takes a couple of seconds to switch from 3G to H. Sometimes, it keeps flicking back and forth between 3G and H like its having problems connecting to H
I complained to optus, they reckon i'm lying. Go figure.
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Sorry.. just to add on, i've tried about 13 different modems on my i9000 and it happens with all of them.
The only fix I've come by? dial *#301279# and disable HSDPA altogether thats the only way my phone will actually load any data on 3G
I have the same thing, but as i understand H and H+ are the highest form of 3G, not a different thing. So I am wondering what mode we are in when 3G appears. UMTS?
Its all very annoying to be honest.
None of my other phones have this problem as they always stay on HSPDA
Same problem here to the extent that pages fail to load on 3g and come up with the error then when I refresh the page once its on H it loads straight away.
Actually this problem is making my phone more or less not usable.
I use the slingplayer alot, keeps skipping on the Galaxy S II as it seems to keep switching between H and 3G.
Put the sim card into my ZTE Blade (Orange San Francisco) and streams constantly with no problem with signal staying on H.
With all the threads relating to 3g and connectivity issues..we can deduce that SGS2's modem really sucks big time..and still no firmware update to correct this even though large number of people is facing some sort of problem with mobile internet which is a main function on todays smartphone.
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Anyone know who to e-mail with examples at Samsung?
I guess they won't fix a problem if they don't realise there is one.
Some people will prefer longer battery when its on 3G then H, others will want the constant H.
I got mine a week after it released. The first two updates mine did the same thing, but instead of timing out, it would drop all signal and display the circle. After a reboot signal would come back. From KE7, it has not done it again.
AT&T in the U.S.
same problem, mode switches around when using data, 3 australia