Related
Hello all,
I'm looking to purchase a Tablet to satisfy a couple of my needs and would like to find out if some of my ideas are possible.
I spend a fair amount of my time in and out of my car so I'm looking to use a Galaxy tab for Satnav, music, phone access and emails. I spotted a Samsung dock that looks promising the "EDD-D1B1BEGSTD" (cannot link as a new user)
It charges it and has audio out which is perfect so I don't have to mess about with plugging in different cables everytime im in and out of the car just drop in and go with an aux in car stereo ready. My concern is it doesn't looks like it could take breaking/acceleration forces very well. Do any other docking stations have both charging and audio that are more car specific?
I don't want 2 contracts for 3G connection so can i confirm i can bluetooth my HTC desire to my tablet to access the internet?
As far as satnav goes, is it possible to have google maps offline?
Is it possible to bluetooth my HTC desire to the tablet to make and receive calls? As if the Tablet is plugged into my car stereo it would be a nice to have hands free calls. Would this be able to pull up my contacts from my phone too?
Out of interest would it be able to use a torrent manager and save directly to a network device/nasbox
Hope some people can answer my questions as im almost certain im going to make a purchase
Cheers
Alex
Any dock you purchase will struggle in the car as it is quite large in size - I see the tab as more of a co-pilot/navigator's unit which can be handheld or on a lap. I would recommend looking at reviews carefully and looking for any videos of the mount in action before purchasing. I do find the gps reception excellent and Google Navigation is fairly good though not quite TomTom quality.
For car audio, I'd recommend a bluetooth car stereo as this makes connection and playback much simpler.
Google Maps can be downloaded offline up to about 10-15 "squares" of information but this doesn't work for the Google navigation app. Google Navigation requires an internet connection to create a route and any wrong turns will also require the internet as a re-route is made. Probably best navigation is Sygic which is free to try for a month and then is about €20 to keep the maps and it works all offline.
There are a few apps that link the phone and tablet for messaging but not sure about calls if your car would be connected to tablet then the phone couldn't connect to car stereo if a call comes in I think.
There are loads of apps for getting nzbs/torrents and sending them to your NAS remotely, e.g. Synodroid is the one I use for Synology NAS.
So I'm really after an in car mount with just the one connector... But has audio out and charging... any ideas?
If I'm bluetoothing my HTC Desire to the tablet my understanding is I then cannot pair with a car stereo so would rather the in car month had audio out.
If your Desire has a 3g connection, you can create a wifi hotspot for the Tab... that way you can use Google maps for navigation on the tab (I've tried it with my Tab + Arc, works great!) Ofcourse, it does use quite a bit of data.. so unless you have around 2gb a month this would not be a viable option
Also if your car has bluetooth you can pair it with the phone/tablet to get audio over bluetooth ( no cables required)
I use my Tab for navigation. Google cached maps are useless without a wireless connection if you go off route. You need something like CoPilot (what I use) or Sygic which stores all map data locally on the device. There's no "official" car dock so you'll have to use the single port and a car charger to keep it charged. You can either use the audio out port to connect physically to the car's audio via a 3.5mm jack or some type of BT adapter connected to the car's audio to connect wirelessly.
http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-F8Z492-P-Bluetooth-Music-Receiver/dp/B0047T79VS
The idea of the docking situation is to make it as simple/lazy as possible. I find if I've got to mess about before a journey i just wont use the tech so wont buy it.
Ideal situation is, I walk up to my car with the tablet in bag and desire in my pocket. I step inside the car, drop the tablet in the docking station (no messing about with cables or adjusting cradles) turn tablet bluetooth on via widget on desktop and have everything ready to go. Data connection + phone ready to use when I want it and music/handfree kit through the car speakers via the aux in connection on the docking station.
The idea behind using bluetooth for Data is I could leave bluetooth on my Desire 24/7 (I already do) leave the phone in my pocket (not setup my phone for tethering each journey) push one button on my tablet and I'm ready to go. This could hopefully keep my data plan down to a minimal usage.
I know it sounds petty but in real life I want to get in and go.
Do people kind of understand what I mean? Or am i being too lazy/picky
cr33ch said:
Or am i being too lazy/picky
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
^^^^^
This.
At least as far as tablets go. You could probably fabricate something yourself using the Tab media dock and a third party mount yourself, but nothing like what you're looking for currently exists.
I don't think I'm asking too much and I'll still prob go ahead with one but it would be nice to have all the features...
I'm kinda going on this video (though its not in english) that you can tether your data via Bluetooth w.youtube.com/watch?v=5hglunqoZLo&feature=related (I can't post videos as a new user)
But I don't know if the phone's calls\sms\contacts can be tethered to the tablet. Plus it will need to do all the above while sending data...
Navigation im not too bothered about, ill prob just either use data like I've been doing with my Desire or download tomtom
Then all I need to find is either a docking station that's more car friendly with same functions or modify the samsung one some how to make it more secure
cr33ch said:
Hello all,
I'm looking to purchase a Tablet to satisfy a couple of my needs and would like to find out if some of my ideas are possible.
I spend a fair amount of my time in and out of my car so I'm looking to use a Galaxy tab for Satnav, music, phone access and emails. I spotted a Samsung dock that looks promising the "EDD-D1B1BEGSTD" (cannot link as a new user)
It charges it and has audio out which is perfect so I don't have to mess about with plugging in different cables everytime im in and out of the car just drop in and go with an aux in car stereo ready. My concern is it doesn't looks like it could take breaking/acceleration forces very well. Do any other docking stations have both charging and audio that are more car specific?
I don't want 2 contracts for 3G connection so can i confirm i can bluetooth my HTC desire to my tablet to access the internet?
As far as satnav goes, is it possible to have google maps offline?
Is it possible to bluetooth my HTC desire to the tablet to make and receive calls? As if the Tablet is plugged into my car stereo it would be a nice to have hands free calls. Would this be able to pull up my contacts from my phone too?
Out of interest would it be able to use a torrent manager and save directly to a network device/nasbox
Hope some people can answer my questions as im almost certain im going to make a purchase
Cheers
Alex
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Google maps WILL cache for offline navigation, BUT you have to enable it in the Labs options, and predefine each area you want pre-cached making it pretty worthless. Your best option is to get wireless tethering working on your phone so you have a live internet connection on your tablet.
Docking your tab in the car will be a DIY project. I am sure it can be done but I have not run across any car docks that would work with this device. Charging can be tricky as well. The Tab requires 2 amps in its stock configuration. Very few car chargers put out that power. There are some rooted options that you can learn about.
As far as navigation goes, your best bet is a nav app such as Copilot. I have this app and find that it is as good or better than a stand alone GPS and the cost is very reasonable. My version does not offer voice control but there may be something newer out there that does.
The Tab can be tethered to a phone, (after rooting), but I have no experience with this so I cannot provide any advice. If it were me, I would use the phone for the stuff it does best and the Tab for what it does best. Phones are great for making and receiving calls as well as sending music to your car stereo. With a bit of effort you can do those things with the Tab but why reinvent the wheel. The Tab is best for things that require a larger screen. In the car, that would be Internet, assuming you have 3G access or are tethered along with navigation. The two devices compliment each other but IMO, cannot totally replace the other.
Hopefully this helps.
Bob
I'm fairly confident I can achieve what I'm looking for with a little modification. My Desire is already rooted with MIUI ill prob end up rooting the tab shortly after I purchase one too.
I think its just going to be a case of getting one and playing with it...
Just to confirm theres nothing really between the samsung and the Motorola xoom from a rooting/modification point of view?
No, no difference as far as rooting afaik.
I'd be interested into how you get on with your tinkering
Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk
Well ive done it, ive put an order in for one with a Samsung docking station. Once it arrives ill report back with what i can and can't do
Im getting ready to buy a new car. In my current car I have a kenwood single din slide out DVD/NAV unit. Frankly im sick of it.
In the new car (Mazda RX-8) im planning on doing a tablet on the dash. I already have all the technical stuff for that part of the install sussed out.
A cannabalized dock for the power and the audio, after market double din dash kit, Custom built (already sorted) swivel mount in the top din, head unit in the lower din for the audio pass through with an adapter for the steering wheel controls.
What Im stuck on, after much searching, is the software. What im looking for specifically is software to let me link my phone over BT so the when I get a call the tablet displays the info and can be used as a handsfree jobby. would be nice if it could also pass data as well but im not greedy.
It may be easier to use a BT adapter for the head unit itself if such software doesn't exist or isnt possible, and then just use the wifi tether for the data on the tablet for nav and such.
Any help or ideas would be SUPER appreciated.
Tablet Talk... works perfect, u can connect over BT
serviciosmoviles1 said:
Tablet Talk... works perfect, u can connect over BT
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This looks pretty good for SMS and it says it has caller id. Can you confirm that I can answer the call from the tablet and use it as a hands free?
I use textab same as tablet talk has Cid but u can't answer the call. I also have a flip out indash I use bt to connect it and I can answer calls from the dash touch screen Audio comes trough the 9 speaker system in my car
GRIMLOCKE said:
This looks pretty good for SMS and it says it has caller id. Can you confirm that I can answer the call from the tablet and use it as a hands free?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The caller ID works very good but you can not answer the call from your tablet. If you want full phone service in your tablet ( answer and place calls) u can use groove ip assuming that u can give data connection to your tablet from your phone and u have a google number after that u just need forwarding your primary number at your google number and u are ready... sounds difficult but believe me, its very easy... I use this every single day and do not take more of 30 sec
Man I lucked out with sprint, google voice and groove IP, is all I need since my my phone is integrated.
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using Tapatalk
Can you take a picture of the tablet on your dash? Would love to see how it look in the car.
10507 said:
Can you take a picture of the tablet on your dash? Would love to see how it look in the car.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I havent actually started any install as of yet. Still waiting on the car.
Funny story. I went to test drive the RX-8 today. It went LESS than stellar.
The car broke down three times in traffic. I got it back to the lot and the salesman still tried to sell it to me. I said get it working and Ill test drive it again...and MAYBE I might think about it. best salesman quote: "Its an automatic, it cant stall.
When I do get the new car next couple weeks/month I will keep you guys updated on the install. Im pretty sure im going to go with the headunit BT.
Can't wait to see it, I like the idea I might opt for kindle fire to mine in my car depending on how stable those devs get it.
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using Tapatalk
you know, I never really considered replacing my radio with a tablet, though I thought of several different ways to mount it separately. I wasn't satisfied with any of my ideas so I'll be checking to see how this one goes. Good luck and take lots of notes and pics.
what is a good way to mount this in a car??
post pics when you get it finished I'd love to see how it came out.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using Tapatalk
Hey all,
I wanted to use my new OPO (without an extra SIM card) as a permanent slave to my original phone, and as a permanent fixture on my car as a car-puter for my 2005 Accord. I have to say, I am pretty impressed with the phone, and where I've reached now.
Hardware required:
1) OPO (obviously)
2) Main phone (In my case, my Note 3)
3) Car with Bluetooth Head Unit (depending on usage)
4) Cheap 7$ OBD2 Bluetooth interface from eBay
5) Raspberry Pi + RasPiCam (for backup cam)
Software:
1) Torque for getting data from OBD.
2) Navier HUD Free (For some cool HUD Effects for my car )
3) MapFactor Navigator for free Offline Maps and navigation
4) Google Voice + Spare Phone (didnt want to spend on another phone line)
5) Tablet Remote ()
6) Tasker
7) fqrouter [to be discarded and replaced with WiFi Tether router]
8) Tablet Talk
9) RTSP Player
Modules:
1) Wireless backup camera
I used Raspberry Pi with its camera module to use as a backup camera.
The Pi fetches the video and transmits it as a live RTMP stream using nginx web server. I can then see the stream play on my phone.
I use fqrouter to create a hotspot between OPO and RPi to get the live stream without losing tethered wifi connection with my Note 3.
2) Navigation & Car stuff
MapFactor Navigator free uses OpenStreetMaps to get free navigation to your phone. No need of a separate GPS unit.
Torque has the ability to connect to my car's OBD2 interface. It also has a HUD functionality which I thought was cool
Can also use Navier HUD Free for HUD displaying speed and navigation.
3) Communication
Now, this one was a bit tricky. I wanted it to be connected with my phone. Since I had unlimited 4G LTE data from T-mobile, I had to leverage that somehow. I couldn't just use tethering as tethering isn't unlimited (now found a workaround for that too ). So I wanted to use Wifi Tether only for Google Voice texts and rare phone calls.
Communication involves multiple things:
a) Receive Phone and Text
For this, I used a fine but no-longer-supported app called Tablet Talk. In the future, I'll try to develop something for myself. For now, this one is good. I can send/receive msgs that I get on my main phone (connected via bluetooth) from this one. As for phone calls, Tablet Talk gives a nice notification about who is calling, with the contact's photo and name synced from your phone book.
ISSUE: Tablet talk is meant for tablets. So when used in landscape mode, the answer/reject/speaker button goes below the screen. So I created a tasker profile, which says when I get a call notification on tablet talk, disable screen rotation temporarily. Does the trick
Another issue is that the calls are attended from your phone. i.e. call audio comes from your phone. Simple solution, also connected the phone with my car's bluetooth (another hack made from a broken 20$ Sony MW600 bluetooth headset I found on eBay). So I can answer the call from OPO fixed in car, and talk via car bluetooth, and the phone always stays inside.
b) Music & audio
I have my full music collection on my main phone. I don't want to sync and have duplicates. Thank's to a discovery by @darktranquility18, I realized that the OPO can be used as a media sync when using bluetooth. i.e. It acts as a bluetooth speaker for my main phone. Now, the issue I ran into was that I couldn't change tracks or volume using it directly. So I had to use another software: Tablet Remote. Works like a charm
That's all I have for now. Let me know if you can think of any suggestions, additions or ideas. Open to many more tweaks and hacks. After all, the phone says: Never Settle
Sounds like a great setup, but why use a $350 phone when a $150 Nexus 7 would do just as well and have a larger screen? I recently began using an 8" LG G Pad as a permanent carputer and couldn't be happier, but I'm going to take a look at some of the options you've detailed here, so thanks for that. I leverage Tasker pretty heavily for automating tasks when the car turns on, turns off, etc.
rant said:
Sounds like a great setup, but why use a $350 phone when a $150 Nexus 7 would do just as well and have a larger screen? I recently began using an 8" LG G Pad as a permanent carputer and couldn't be happier, but I'm going to take a look at some of the options you've detailed here, so thanks for that. I leverage Tasker pretty heavily for automating tasks when the car turns on, turns off, etc.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Simple reason:
I had a 350$ phone that I got for free just lying around as a spare phone. I don't have a spare tablet
So essentially, the only amount I spent just for this is the $7 Bluetooth ODB2 connector.
Also, I didnt want to modify the stock Head Unit. So I have a stand (I added wireless charger for my note 3. Will make OPO wireless charging capable later) on my upper dash which can hold a phone. A tablet will be too big for that and will block my view out of windshield. Once I get some more money, I will get the Metra dash kit and put in a tablet. This setup is what I have for now
CravingMender9 said:
Simple reason:
I had a 350$ phone that I got for free just lying around as a spare phone. I don't have a spare tablet
So essentially, the only amount I spent just for this is the $7 Bluetooth ODB2 connector.
Also, I didnt want to modify the stock Head Unit. So I have a stand (I added wireless charger for my note 3. Will make OPO wireless charging capable later) on my upper dash which can hold a phone. A tablet will be too big for that and will block my view out of windshield. Once I get some more money, I will get the Metra dash kit and put in a tablet. This setup is what I have for now
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Gotcha, certainly makes sense. Good luck with your setup. Having run mine for a few weeks now, can't imagine going back to a stock head unit. Waze, Spotify, Pandora, having my full music library, etc. can't be beat.
i stopped by, hoping for pics.... (nice setup btw)
muzhik said:
i stopped by, hoping for pics.... (nice setup btw)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ha, Thanks
Well, its just the OPO on a phone stand on my dash. Mostly it is the use of various software to make it do what I want.
But I guess I CAN put up pics of HUD and a video about the Raspberry Pi Backup module.
I'll try to make it this week and upload.
Yes please, that'd be cool
I'm also curious about that OBD2 thing you bought. Does it mean I can get that too? I have a Toyota Yaris
If you could post some pics and share some quick instructions, would be great!
Cheers m8!
LarsPT said:
Yes please, that'd be cool
I'm also curious about that OBD2 thing you bought. Does it mean I can get that too? I have a Toyota Yaris
If you could post some pics and share some quick instructions, would be great!
Cheers m8!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is what I got from eBay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/131033435850?_trksid=p2060778.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
It was $2 off when I purchased it. So I got for $6.94
The construction is FLIMSY and the covering breaks easily. But it can be easily fixed with super glue or something. I kept mine open as the LEDs inside give a nice glow-at-night effect to my underdash. I'll show that in video that I'll mostly try to make before this weekend.
What year is your Yaris? All cars after 98 year models (i think) need to have OBD2 compulsorily. It'll mostly be near your steering wheel side underdash, on the left near the fuse box.
It's recent, it's the '10 model. I'll look into it when I go back home after work
Cheers!
Pics pics we want pics !
rant said:
Sounds like a great setup, but why use a $350 phone when a $150 Nexus 7 would do just as well and have a larger screen? I recently began using an 8" LG G Pad as a permanent carputer and couldn't be happier, but I'm going to take a look at some of the options you've detailed here, so thanks for that. I leverage Tasker pretty heavily for automating tasks when the car turns on, turns off, etc.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So you couldn't sell the phone and get the tablet pocketing the extra $200. I understand if it was a condition of getting it free. Also, you can do most of this with your primary phone and a nice car mount. That lets you use the device when you aren't in the car...
lugose said:
So you couldn't sell the phone and get the tablet pocketing the extra $200. I understand if it was a condition of getting it free. Also, you can do most of this with your primary phone and a nice car mount. That lets you use the device when you aren't in the car...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The phone was a gift. So no, wouldn't sell it. Primary phone is used by other people in the car to play music/games etc.
Not a good idea to continuously mount and remove that while I am using navigation and there are people in the car for whom nothing else matters other than playing Candy Crush or facebook .
I do use the device when I am not in the car. As I had mentioned before, it is just hooked to a phone stand/holder.
Also, let me clarify, the main reason for posting it here is since I used the OPO. You can use anything, any phone / tablet. I am not saying you have to use this phone only. I just happen to have a spare one, that's all. I wanted to show one more thing that we can use any phone/any tablet for. It was just an experiment.
Cholerabob said:
Pics pics we want pics !
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'll try to get the video today once I get home
CravingMender9 said:
The phone was a gift. So no, wouldn't sell it. Primary phone is used by other people in the car to play music/games etc.
Not a good idea to continuously mount and remove that while I am using navigation and there are people in the car for whom nothing else matters other than playing Candy Crush or facebook .
I do use the device when I am not in the car. As I had mentioned before, it is just hooked to a phone stand/holder.
Also, let me clarify, the main reason for posting it here is since I used the OPO. You can use anything, any phone / tablet. I am not saying you have to use this phone only. I just happen to have a spare one, that's all. I wanted to show one more thing that we can use any phone/any tablet for. It was just an experiment.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry, didn't mean to dump. It is cool, but expensive for most. I look forward to seeing the pictures.
Apologies for the shaky video. Never done a video before, so was a bit nervous.
Raspberry Pi Wifi Camera Project Demo:
HUD Display (Upload in progress):
Images attached. I can write a tutorial about the raspberry pi module sometime later if anyone is interested.
Sorry, I know this post is old but this is the only reference I could find with someone seemingly having used an OPO (OnePlus One - I hope you mean) successfully with an ELM327 OBD2 Bluetooth adapter. I am having connection issues with my OBD2 adapter and was wondering if you had found a way around these issues...
Here's another thread I started describing my OBD2 adapter issues:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/help/oneplus-one-cm11-wont-obd2-elm327-t3152703
I have used a couple of OBD2 adapters. The successful one was from OBDlink MX. The hit and mid ones were the cheap ones from China that did not have an auto shut off features.
Sent from my A0001 using XDA Premium HD app
Hi I thought I would give a quick review of my gv18 smartwatch purchased for £28 from ebay uk seller so here goes.
The item arrived via Argos click and collect which I was very happy with as I don't drive and work 9-5 and hate receiving royal mail undelivered cards.
The watch is packed in a rather generic looking box with aplus watch printed on the box.
Inside I found the watch and a usb cable along with a User manually with a poorly translated english section so I decided to just charge and test the watch. A full charge took just over an hour. Startup was quick a few seconds really and then I was ready to go. I scanned the mediatek app from the qr code but it wouldn't install on my xperia z3 so downloaded and installed via playstore. Within seconds I was receiving all of my notifications. I could even play music through my watch from my phone using xperia z3s throw feature and was pleasantly surprised by the volume and quality of the watch speaker. If I turn off the throw feature I can control the phones audio via the watch through the phones speaker. I promptly tested the calling and was pleased to note that the caller could hear me very clearly as well as me hearing them albeit in a similar way to hands free on my phone but a lot clearer. Sadly I do not believe there is a way to link the watch directly to bluetooth headset which is a shame as this was my main hope for this watch with the expandable memory. Battery life is good at about 2-3 days limited use with backlight on medium. Regarding the phones other features I can say the pedometer works although I'm unsure of the accuracy, texting even with the keyboard options is pretty much pointless due to the size of the keyboard and poor autocorrect word options. Along with this I have noticed that from time to time my bluetotth disconnects and when on a non silent profile rings continuously and on silent the has a verry week vibration. That said though for a nice looking comfortable watch with easily replaceable bands ( about £6 on ebay for 24mm straight end strap, however you will lose nfc) that is a great handsfree device and receives all notifications and for £28 this watch is deffinately worth the money but I'm thinking of looking at the k8 or s8 now for gps and hope of bluetooth headset when free of phone. UPDATE I have now established that you use bluetooth dialler app to use bluetooth headset however with one headset I use connection strength is almost non existent as unless the phone is touching the headset it disconnects and now with my boudoir earphones I get a connection but with wrist at waist I get drop outs both headsets have good range when paired with my phone.
Looks like someone stole my review lolhttp://mobilevsandroid.blogspot.co.uk/2015/08/gv18-quick-review.html?m=1
How long is the strap that comes with it?
I just ordered one, since I use a waterproof zip bag for my phone when hiking.
If you still need to know I will measure at some point.
I got the watch, but theres no screw on the back of the gv18 case.
I can see a small circle in the plastic, but not cutout.
in softweare the build time is 24-7-2015. Managed to connect phone and a bt headset to play music. But will probably not use that option all that much.
Mine didn't have the screw either I'm wondering if bluetooth connection is a bit ropey due to changing to metal strap.
well, I tested the bluetooth quicly with sonyericsson mw600 headset. I tried dialing with the mw600 inside the jacket and it seemed to work. Just a quick test over lets say 1m distance.
I am thinking of putting some cling film on it or something else for water\moisture protection when hiking.
GV18 or DZ09? which one is better? Which one do you prefer?
What about internet connection? when i have sim in watch, can i connect to internet using phone?
or when i have sim in phone, can i connect to internet using watches?
Couldn't get sim card working
I tried my phone's sim card in the watch, found AT&T's network configuration page, and attempted to get the watch connected. After many unsuccessful attempts, I gave up. Theoretically, the watch gives you a browser, facebook, and whatsapp apps if you're connected with sim card.
just bought it from amazon, will use it primarily to listen to music via bluetooth headphones while jogging. hopefully it works great for my purpose
Hey Guys,
I just bought a brand new Kenworth W900, and it has android auto (or something mimicing it) built in... A panapacific dea600... the major problem is it super kludge... amongst being terribly locked down, i cannot connect to an ad hoc wifi thru my windows 10 laptop (that is tethered to my S6 with easy tether)... my tablet can connect to the ad hoc no problems, and my stereo can see the network but cannot connect to it for some reason (i REALLY need to update the trucks GPS maps, and have you tried to use a truck stops wifi? (like dial up))... id really just like access to the OS or another launcher so i can add some apps that i need (no not facebook or stuff like that) and perhaps root and rom it....
its running android 4.2.2... and i can get you the entirely too long software version
Its sad really because this could be cutting edge stuff, but someone higher up had to come up with ways to neuter this damn thing... and look i get that there are things i shouldnt have access to while driving, but it DOES have android web browser built in so its not like they dont want us using it...
i dont expect the world as this unit has only been shipping with trucks for a few months... and many of you may not have come across it... but perhaps it shares hardware with another system and panapacific just stole it (it HAS happened many times)
thanks guys and look forward to replies before i finish going insane
Nobody?
DEA600 - SmartDisplay for Automotive Infotainment
Hey,
I just came across your note while search for this product - I was the software architect/tech lead for the supplier company providing the Android port and the Freescale SOM component of the display screen on this product line - although moved on shirtly after the system went to mass production. - it is awesome to see someone here discuss it!
You are very correct on a lot of you assumptions and assessments. it was a very ambitious project that really tried to leverage as much of what Android was capable of at the time it was planned, but tuned to work as a smart display for commercial vehicles.
The display is only a part of a system of components. The display runs a port of Android 4.2.2 - but highly tailored to its environment - pairs with the Delphi radio unit (as a peer, not as an accessory) and is toghtly coupled to the unit in production. as a security measure.
unfortunately for what you are looking for, though much of the upgrade and app installation capabilities have been locked down to prevent side loading or execution of "unauthorized" apps that don't have special keys fro. the OEM or manufacturer. even if installed, the system manager will kill any apps that are launched without keys.
you may be able to get a developer key from the OEM but I don't know how they chose to mange that in the final system.
thanks for the posting, though - it was a small run comparatively for android systems but it was a pretty damn cool system with what we did get working....
I would be happy to discuss more if you want. - with what I can....
- Chris
DEA600
hi there
i have same head unit in my 389 pride and class peterbilt, for the map part, that you can update by connecting it to your phones internet, either wifi hot spot if not then just connect it with bluetooth and use bluetooth tethering of phone and PAN of your DEA600, but main problem in the system is that you cant put a single thing without pulling breaks, and u cant download a single file by any means, it just displays error that unfortunately process.android. stopped or browser has stopped or settings has stopped. if any one figured out how to download anythimg in this little thing. please update
hello there. I have T-680 with DEA600. I had exactly the same problem and ended up taking my truck to a dealer. it turned out to be defected radio. After it was replaced, it would connect to a hotspot no problem ( im using htc 10).
I have the same unit in my W 900. It is a huge disappointment in many ways. First of all just like any factory radio I have ever seen in a commercial truck the sound quality is horrible. Second I don't like the fact that it locks so many functions when I am driving. I have a passenger that rides with me most of the time that is perfectly capable of safely operating those functions while I drive. This makes the GPS almost useless for the way I like to use a GPS. Good thing I still have my Garman. But really my biggest disappointment is the fact that I cannot get the gauges to work properly. It states that I can choose from over 30 gauges to be displayed however I have been unable to find any way to change from the six default gauges that are there. I have read the manual but it does not explain how to open the menu that lets you choose which gauges are there. I don't know if my unit is defective like one of a red one of yours was or if it just hasn't come out in an update yet. Also if I am reading this right it looks like my display and gauges function are tied to the stereo which means if I replace the head unit I'm going to lose that function. Am I reading that correctly?
Hey guys so a friend of mine has the DEA601 in his new truck and drives him nuts that the passenger cannot control things when its going faster than 5km hour (his old Peterbuilt worked fine).
I'm a software eng and would like to find out how to disable the Distracted Driver feature (like you can do in settings on many other Android Auto ROM's like Honda). What are my options here? a) Make a whole new ROM (but how to do that?) b) try to hexedit the existing ROM and find where the 5 km value is and modify it c) add an add-on app somehow to override this limit or d) other???
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
Ckrobin said:
I have the same unit in my W 900. It is a huge disappointment in many ways. First of all just like any factory radio I have ever seen in a commercial truck the sound quality is horrible. Second I don't like the fact that it locks so many functions when I am driving. I have a passenger that rides with me most of the time that is perfectly capable of safely operating those functions while I drive. This makes the GPS almost useless for the way I like to use a GPS. Good thing I still have my Garman. But really my biggest disappointment is the fact that I cannot get the gauges to work properly. It states that I can choose from over 30 gauges to be displayed however I have been unable to find any way to change from the six default gauges that are there. I have read the manual but it does not explain how to open the menu that lets you choose which gauges are there. I don't know if my unit is defective like one of a red one of yours was or if it just hasn't come out in an update yet. Also if I am reading this right it looks like my display and gauges function are tied to the stereo which means if I replace the head unit I'm going to lose that function. Am I reading that correctly?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I found out in order for the guages to work I need an $800 module my truck didn't come with. Now my biggest problem is the technology seems to have stagnated. The software on my phone and tablet are no longer very comparable with Android 4.2. I try my iPhone and my Android tablet and neither will play Pandora consistently. I am forced to use Bluetooth which looses sound quality on an already low quality stereo. I really wish Kenworth had spent their R &D on making their trucks compatible with idatalink like most aftermarket stereos use.
At this point I am torn between installing a hideaway marine stereo with a remote display and leaving this POS Pans Pacrapic as a display with nono sound. Or installing a line converter and amp and dealing with this clunky software. I wish someone would make a rom to upgrade this thing.
Looks like the Mfg won this round
Looks like the Mfg won this round
I'm driving one of these trucks also and I keep checking this post but I guess we havent incentivized anyone who cud help yet!
The electrical switch must be located behind the air brakes control knob. I'm sure if you pull the stereo out you will find the wires that control the disabling feature. The unit tries to "update" when connected to wifi. Maybe someone can use wireshark and grab the update packet and modify it with root installed. I'm ok with trying anything short of taking the unit apart and Jtag the firmware directly. Would love to see one taken apart.
sunny530 said:
The electrical switch must be located behind the air brakes control knob. I'm sure if you pull the stereo out you will find the wires that control the disabling feature. The unit tries to "update" when connected to wifi. Maybe someone can use wireshark and grab the update packet and modify it with root installed. I'm ok with trying anything short of taking the unit apart and Jtag the firmware directly. Would love to see one taken apart.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is a 2+ year old thread being g responded to.
What is your point? 2years later and still no solution to the problem. I ran across this thread of people discussing the same problems I'm having with the radio unit. If you got something usefull to add to this discussion then please feel free otherwise you don't need to acknowledge when what was posted that helps me null with my problem.
Anyone here figure anything out?
still nothing
Hello! So I have little tech experience but I am willing to work with someone here to sort this out. Got a 17 w900 that I put a aftermarket double din in and retained smart nav for the gauges. What I did find was the screen (not the radio) gets a input from the wire harness off the ecm to give data to the screen. So I’ll attach a picture of the plug and maybe we can use this plus find it’s female counterpart then get the other end to plug into a maestro box? My Sony doesn’t have maestro. I do have a pioneer that does but can’t justify the cost being the Guinea pig. I’ve already been one of the first to get the tilt column to drop LOW and managed to fit a true 7” double din where the stupid nav was.