Hello all,
I'm looking to purchase a Tablet to satisfy a couple of my needs and would like to find out if some of my ideas are possible.
I spend a fair amount of my time in and out of my car so I'm looking to use a Galaxy tab for Satnav, music, phone access and emails. I spotted a Samsung dock that looks promising the "EDD-D1B1BEGSTD" (cannot link as a new user)
It charges it and has audio out which is perfect so I don't have to mess about with plugging in different cables everytime im in and out of the car just drop in and go with an aux in car stereo ready. My concern is it doesn't looks like it could take breaking/acceleration forces very well. Do any other docking stations have both charging and audio that are more car specific?
I don't want 2 contracts for 3G connection so can i confirm i can bluetooth my HTC desire to my tablet to access the internet?
As far as satnav goes, is it possible to have google maps offline?
Is it possible to bluetooth my HTC desire to the tablet to make and receive calls? As if the Tablet is plugged into my car stereo it would be a nice to have hands free calls. Would this be able to pull up my contacts from my phone too?
Out of interest would it be able to use a torrent manager and save directly to a network device/nasbox
Hope some people can answer my questions as im almost certain im going to make a purchase
Cheers
Alex
Any dock you purchase will struggle in the car as it is quite large in size - I see the tab as more of a co-pilot/navigator's unit which can be handheld or on a lap. I would recommend looking at reviews carefully and looking for any videos of the mount in action before purchasing. I do find the gps reception excellent and Google Navigation is fairly good though not quite TomTom quality.
For car audio, I'd recommend a bluetooth car stereo as this makes connection and playback much simpler.
Google Maps can be downloaded offline up to about 10-15 "squares" of information but this doesn't work for the Google navigation app. Google Navigation requires an internet connection to create a route and any wrong turns will also require the internet as a re-route is made. Probably best navigation is Sygic which is free to try for a month and then is about €20 to keep the maps and it works all offline.
There are a few apps that link the phone and tablet for messaging but not sure about calls if your car would be connected to tablet then the phone couldn't connect to car stereo if a call comes in I think.
There are loads of apps for getting nzbs/torrents and sending them to your NAS remotely, e.g. Synodroid is the one I use for Synology NAS.
So I'm really after an in car mount with just the one connector... But has audio out and charging... any ideas?
If I'm bluetoothing my HTC Desire to the tablet my understanding is I then cannot pair with a car stereo so would rather the in car month had audio out.
If your Desire has a 3g connection, you can create a wifi hotspot for the Tab... that way you can use Google maps for navigation on the tab (I've tried it with my Tab + Arc, works great!) Ofcourse, it does use quite a bit of data.. so unless you have around 2gb a month this would not be a viable option
Also if your car has bluetooth you can pair it with the phone/tablet to get audio over bluetooth ( no cables required)
I use my Tab for navigation. Google cached maps are useless without a wireless connection if you go off route. You need something like CoPilot (what I use) or Sygic which stores all map data locally on the device. There's no "official" car dock so you'll have to use the single port and a car charger to keep it charged. You can either use the audio out port to connect physically to the car's audio via a 3.5mm jack or some type of BT adapter connected to the car's audio to connect wirelessly.
http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-F8Z492-P-Bluetooth-Music-Receiver/dp/B0047T79VS
The idea of the docking situation is to make it as simple/lazy as possible. I find if I've got to mess about before a journey i just wont use the tech so wont buy it.
Ideal situation is, I walk up to my car with the tablet in bag and desire in my pocket. I step inside the car, drop the tablet in the docking station (no messing about with cables or adjusting cradles) turn tablet bluetooth on via widget on desktop and have everything ready to go. Data connection + phone ready to use when I want it and music/handfree kit through the car speakers via the aux in connection on the docking station.
The idea behind using bluetooth for Data is I could leave bluetooth on my Desire 24/7 (I already do) leave the phone in my pocket (not setup my phone for tethering each journey) push one button on my tablet and I'm ready to go. This could hopefully keep my data plan down to a minimal usage.
I know it sounds petty but in real life I want to get in and go.
Do people kind of understand what I mean? Or am i being too lazy/picky
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Or am i being too lazy/picky
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^^^^^
This.
At least as far as tablets go. You could probably fabricate something yourself using the Tab media dock and a third party mount yourself, but nothing like what you're looking for currently exists.
I don't think I'm asking too much and I'll still prob go ahead with one but it would be nice to have all the features...
I'm kinda going on this video (though its not in english) that you can tether your data via Bluetooth w.youtube.com/watch?v=5hglunqoZLo&feature=related (I can't post videos as a new user)
But I don't know if the phone's calls\sms\contacts can be tethered to the tablet. Plus it will need to do all the above while sending data...
Navigation im not too bothered about, ill prob just either use data like I've been doing with my Desire or download tomtom
Then all I need to find is either a docking station that's more car friendly with same functions or modify the samsung one some how to make it more secure
cr33ch said:
Hello all,
I'm looking to purchase a Tablet to satisfy a couple of my needs and would like to find out if some of my ideas are possible.
I spend a fair amount of my time in and out of my car so I'm looking to use a Galaxy tab for Satnav, music, phone access and emails. I spotted a Samsung dock that looks promising the "EDD-D1B1BEGSTD" (cannot link as a new user)
It charges it and has audio out which is perfect so I don't have to mess about with plugging in different cables everytime im in and out of the car just drop in and go with an aux in car stereo ready. My concern is it doesn't looks like it could take breaking/acceleration forces very well. Do any other docking stations have both charging and audio that are more car specific?
I don't want 2 contracts for 3G connection so can i confirm i can bluetooth my HTC desire to my tablet to access the internet?
As far as satnav goes, is it possible to have google maps offline?
Is it possible to bluetooth my HTC desire to the tablet to make and receive calls? As if the Tablet is plugged into my car stereo it would be a nice to have hands free calls. Would this be able to pull up my contacts from my phone too?
Out of interest would it be able to use a torrent manager and save directly to a network device/nasbox
Hope some people can answer my questions as im almost certain im going to make a purchase
Cheers
Alex
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Google maps WILL cache for offline navigation, BUT you have to enable it in the Labs options, and predefine each area you want pre-cached making it pretty worthless. Your best option is to get wireless tethering working on your phone so you have a live internet connection on your tablet.
Docking your tab in the car will be a DIY project. I am sure it can be done but I have not run across any car docks that would work with this device. Charging can be tricky as well. The Tab requires 2 amps in its stock configuration. Very few car chargers put out that power. There are some rooted options that you can learn about.
As far as navigation goes, your best bet is a nav app such as Copilot. I have this app and find that it is as good or better than a stand alone GPS and the cost is very reasonable. My version does not offer voice control but there may be something newer out there that does.
The Tab can be tethered to a phone, (after rooting), but I have no experience with this so I cannot provide any advice. If it were me, I would use the phone for the stuff it does best and the Tab for what it does best. Phones are great for making and receiving calls as well as sending music to your car stereo. With a bit of effort you can do those things with the Tab but why reinvent the wheel. The Tab is best for things that require a larger screen. In the car, that would be Internet, assuming you have 3G access or are tethered along with navigation. The two devices compliment each other but IMO, cannot totally replace the other.
Hopefully this helps.
Bob
I'm fairly confident I can achieve what I'm looking for with a little modification. My Desire is already rooted with MIUI ill prob end up rooting the tab shortly after I purchase one too.
I think its just going to be a case of getting one and playing with it...
Just to confirm theres nothing really between the samsung and the Motorola xoom from a rooting/modification point of view?
No, no difference as far as rooting afaik.
I'd be interested into how you get on with your tinkering
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Well ive done it, ive put an order in for one with a Samsung docking station. Once it arrives ill report back with what i can and can't do
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I still use my old XDA 1 (Himilaya) for sat nav (running TomTom5 - haven't upgraded to 6 yet) with a wired GPS mouse, so both the GPS receiver and XDA are always charging when the ignition is on/engine running. I leave all that kit in the car all the time. I've also got an MDA Pro (Universal) and am thinking of using that for TomTom instead because:
a) Take advantage of the data tariff on it and subscribe to Traffic Plus (or whatever TomTom call it)
b) I also intend to get a Parrot CK bluetooth add on for the car (allow the car speakers to be part of a speakerphone) so I can make/receive calls and also listen to WMAs whilst driving (I hate all headphones)
So, questions.
1) TomTom5 works really well on the original XDA 1 (no crashes, smooth scrolling, very responsive, etc). Will it work just as well on my Universal?
2) If using the traffic service (over GPRS/UMTS), will voice calls still come through OK? T Mobile UK
3) Would pretty much any BT GPS unit off ebay be OK?
4) How long do the batteries last before needing a charge on these BT units?
5) Are there any wired solutions, so I don't need batteries and the Universal could also be on charge? I'd much prefer that.
6) Is the traffic service good? I mean, does it warn/reroute you sufficiently in advance? Does it know, for instance, that some roads are always slow and avoid them?
7) Anything in TomTom6 worth the ugprade over 5?
Or should I forget the traffic (and still rely on the radio) and just stick to the satus quo, or maybe still get the BT thing for MP3/WMAs? Anyone got any experience of a similar setup to report? TomTom5 on the XDA is one of very few tech products with which I'm completely and utterly happy.
Can no one help on any of the questions?
Hi Xiasma,
I sell a Car Kit for £40, which sounds like it should do what you want.
http://www.mdapro.co.uk/shop/xcart/T-Mobile-MDA-PRO-Handsfree-Custom-Car-Kit-with-speaker-pr-36.html
It'll charge your phone and GPS at the same time, amplify the voice, etc. and comes with 3 different mounts to attach to your car. I haven't sold many and one person is complaining about people not hearing him when he makes recieves a call, although we've proved that the microphone is working correctly. See this thread for an in depth discussion on pro's, con's, etc.
http://www.mdapro.co.uk/phpBB-2.0.18/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=275
I have no experiance of other solutions, but I think that as you have problems with loudspeaker, you'll have the same trouble as the guy in the thread. The thread goes on a bit, but I think you'll find it usefull.
Any bluetooth GPS reciever should work well with your phone, but I'd advise going for one with a Sirf III chipset, people seem to find them much better than sirf II. I have some new ones due in next week around the £50 mark, which sound a better deal than any others I sell at the minute.
HTH
Dave
That's great, Dave, thanks. It's got a built in microphone, but does it have line out so I could have the sound going through my car speakers (ie for MP3 and the like)? That would be perfect. Well, almost, I'd prefer to mount the MDA Pro open with the keyboard underneath - I guess this won't allow that, will it?
How many hours use does a good BT GPS unit last between charges?
Hi Xiasma,
unfortunately it doesn't have a line out, but I've seen Y-adapters around for a few pence which could well serve the purpose you require.
As you wish to plug it into your stereo anyway, you don't neccessarily need an amplified mount. Herbert Richter make several suitable mounts and a body which will hold your device with the keyboard open. (Laptop Style) It has cutouts for most buttons, sockets, etc. So you could easily plug your phone in to charge and connect it to your stereo.
Heres a good GPS reciever, the manufacturer claims the battery will last 11 hours. I honestly haven't tested one myself, so I don't know how accurate this info is.
http://www.mdapro.co.uk/shop/xcart/GlobalSat-359S-Sirf-III-Bluetooth-GPS-Receiver-pr-42.html
HTH
Dave
Im getting ready to buy a new car. In my current car I have a kenwood single din slide out DVD/NAV unit. Frankly im sick of it.
In the new car (Mazda RX-8) im planning on doing a tablet on the dash. I already have all the technical stuff for that part of the install sussed out.
A cannabalized dock for the power and the audio, after market double din dash kit, Custom built (already sorted) swivel mount in the top din, head unit in the lower din for the audio pass through with an adapter for the steering wheel controls.
What Im stuck on, after much searching, is the software. What im looking for specifically is software to let me link my phone over BT so the when I get a call the tablet displays the info and can be used as a handsfree jobby. would be nice if it could also pass data as well but im not greedy.
It may be easier to use a BT adapter for the head unit itself if such software doesn't exist or isnt possible, and then just use the wifi tether for the data on the tablet for nav and such.
Any help or ideas would be SUPER appreciated.
Tablet Talk... works perfect, u can connect over BT
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Tablet Talk... works perfect, u can connect over BT
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This looks pretty good for SMS and it says it has caller id. Can you confirm that I can answer the call from the tablet and use it as a hands free?
I use textab same as tablet talk has Cid but u can't answer the call. I also have a flip out indash I use bt to connect it and I can answer calls from the dash touch screen Audio comes trough the 9 speaker system in my car
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This looks pretty good for SMS and it says it has caller id. Can you confirm that I can answer the call from the tablet and use it as a hands free?
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The caller ID works very good but you can not answer the call from your tablet. If you want full phone service in your tablet ( answer and place calls) u can use groove ip assuming that u can give data connection to your tablet from your phone and u have a google number after that u just need forwarding your primary number at your google number and u are ready... sounds difficult but believe me, its very easy... I use this every single day and do not take more of 30 sec
Man I lucked out with sprint, google voice and groove IP, is all I need since my my phone is integrated.
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Can you take a picture of the tablet on your dash? Would love to see how it look in the car.
10507 said:
Can you take a picture of the tablet on your dash? Would love to see how it look in the car.
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I havent actually started any install as of yet. Still waiting on the car.
Funny story. I went to test drive the RX-8 today. It went LESS than stellar.
The car broke down three times in traffic. I got it back to the lot and the salesman still tried to sell it to me. I said get it working and Ill test drive it again...and MAYBE I might think about it. best salesman quote: "Its an automatic, it cant stall.
When I do get the new car next couple weeks/month I will keep you guys updated on the install. Im pretty sure im going to go with the headunit BT.
Can't wait to see it, I like the idea I might opt for kindle fire to mine in my car depending on how stable those devs get it.
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you know, I never really considered replacing my radio with a tablet, though I thought of several different ways to mount it separately. I wasn't satisfied with any of my ideas so I'll be checking to see how this one goes. Good luck and take lots of notes and pics.
what is a good way to mount this in a car??
post pics when you get it finished I'd love to see how it came out.
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I am in the search for the best, well best for a descent price that is probably double din card stereo with the best Android integration.
By that I mean mainly blue tooth and usb.
I know based on some of the bluetooth protocols there are quite a range of things that can be integrated (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth#Bluetooth_protocol_stack)
For example pluging into USB and the deck seeing the internal memory as well as SD Card to be able to play files from it, bluetooth being able to push music to the deck as well as the deck being able to communicate with apps such as pandora to skip tracks and such from the deck.
My searches thus far have lead to me this model http://www.crutchfield.com/p_105KWHR81B/JVC-KW-HDR81BT.html?showAll=N&search=KW-HDR81BT&skipvs=T
But I know there is one more bluetooth feature I would like and that is (MAP) Message Access Profile, which allows for text related messages to the deck for text to speech functions an such. (http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13746_...tooth-do-besides-make-calls-abcs-of-car-tech/)
So anyone have ideas, I think there are new models announced close to this time of year right?
Anyone have good suggestions for a review site?
maxpower2078 said:
I am in the search for the best, well best for a descent price that is probably double din card stereo with the best Android integration.
By that I mean mainly blue tooth and usb.
I know based on some of the bluetooth protocols there are quite a range of things that can be integrated (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth#Bluetooth_protocol_stack)
For example pluging into USB and the deck seeing the internal memory as well as SD Card to be able to play files from it, bluetooth being able to push music to the deck as well as the deck being able to communicate with apps such as pandora to skip tracks and such from the deck.
My searches thus far have lead to me this model http://www.crutchfield.com/p_105KWHR81B/JVC-KW-HDR81BT.html?showAll=N&search=KW-HDR81BT&skipvs=T
But I know there is one more bluetooth feature I would like and that is (MAP) Message Access Profile, which allows for text related messages to the deck for text to speech functions an such. (http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13746_...tooth-do-besides-make-calls-abcs-of-car-tech/)
So anyone have ideas, I think there are new models announced close to this time of year right?
Anyone have good suggestions for a review site?
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This is what I'm looking into. Somebody sent me a screen shot of the app radio hooked up to their HTC and it even had the sense 4 lock ring displayed
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Car/AppRadio/AppRadio+2+(SPH-DA100)
CharliesTheMan said:
This is what I'm looking into. Somebody sent me a screen shot of the app radio hooked up to their HTC and it even had the sense 4 lock ring displayed
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Car/AppRadio/AppRadio+2+(SPH-DA100)
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That looks very cool but my phone is not on the list plus it seems like something that is in its infancy still. I think a broader technology like bluetooth that could be compatible with many more devices may be a better way of connecting. I think that kind of thing will be awesome in a few years when they nail down a standard for communicating audio/video to the head unit, almost like the head unit is just a monitor to the phone and a touchscreen monitor at that.
I'm actually looking for the same thing right now. I don't want to spend $500+ dollars on a head unit when I could buy a nexus tablet to do everything for half that. But I do want a stand alone radio that I can use with a phone or streaming data, plus a built in amp with preamp outs would be perfect.
App Radio 2 has many issues.
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I'm actually looking for the same thing right now. I don't want to spend $500+ dollars on a head unit when I could buy a nexus tablet to do everything for half that. But I do want a stand alone radio that I can use with a phone or streaming data, plus a built in amp with preamp outs would be perfect.
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I just purchased the App Radio 2, and am returning it to Crutchfield. The screen is nice looking, but otherwise it is the single most disappointing electronic device I have ever purchased. I won't go into the long list of complaints about the device, as the hatred I now have for it could destroy a small city. Suffice to say that the unit functions as designed, but was likely designed by a team of engineers who had never seen a car, radio, phone or normal human being. There are a few threads here for people who are still trying to make the device worthwhile, with a particular success in the ARLiberator App.
I'm tempted to try that out, but the reality is the radio software itself is the problem in my opinion. It would be great to use the ARLiberator phone functions, but I don't like the firmware of the radio.
I'm looking at other options and right now the Parrot Asteroid Smart is a front-runner. I'm conflicted as it has runs Android 2.3 and I was hoping for something more current. Search around on the forum for more details on both before you purchase, there are many potential show stoppers.
hey guys,
I've been searching for a Android Head unit for a while now. I too hate the fact that most of them are 2.3, but check this unit out.
ebay.com/itm/Hot-2-Din-Car-Radio-DVD-Player-Fast-Cpu-Android-4-0-WIFI-3G-GPS-Ipod-Bluetooth-/170939816360
recently stumbled over it. Wondering if any has seen one or has one, worry about the quality. Currently, I'm also considering Parrot's new unit.
Hope this helps.
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I just purchased the App Radio 2, and am returning it to Crutchfield. The screen is nice looking, but otherwise it is the single most disappointing electronic device I have ever purchased. I won't go into the long list of complaints about the device, as the hatred I now have for it could destroy a small city. Suffice to say that the unit functions as designed, but was likely designed by a team of engineers who had never seen a car, radio, phone or normal human being. There are a few threads here for people who are still trying to make the device worthwhile, with a particular success in the ARLiberator App.
I'm tempted to try that out, but the reality is the radio software itself is the problem in my opinion. It would be great to use the ARLiberator phone functions, but I don't like the firmware of the radio.
I'm looking at other options and right now the Parrot Asteroid Smart is a front-runner. I'm conflicted as it has runs Android 2.3 and I was hoping for something more current. Search around on the forum for more details on both before you purchase, there are many potential show stoppers.
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I tried it WITH ARLiberator and I still hate it. I'm looking at the Chinese Double Din HU's now that run only Android (not wince and android).
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hey guys,
I've been searching for a Android Head unit for a while now. I too hate the fact that most of them are 2.3, but check this unit out.
ebay.com/itm/Hot-2-Din-Car-Radio-DVD-Player-Fast-Cpu-Android-4-0-WIFI-3G-GPS-Ipod-Bluetooth-/170939816360
recently stumbled over it. Wondering if any has seen one or has one, worry about the quality. Currently, I'm also considering Parrot's new unit.
Hope this helps.
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Did you buy one? I'm looking at getting one like this or something similar...
I'm currently looking for a replacement for my Clarion CX501, any updates from anyone? Seems like the APT-X support has yet to hit the headunit market.
Has no one found a good unit yet? Please update!
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Has no one found a good unit yet? Please update!
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Get an android based double din radio, make sure its dual core, 1G Ram, DAB+ supported, 6.2-7" TFT capacitive touch screen, steering wheel controls supported and accepts WiFi dongle. you will have the mighty Google Play store to satisfy your imagination.
obviously such a unit would support most of the Bluetooth profiles.
I noticed few units on ebay but not from any known manufacturer. best i found was from some German supplier icar-tech
Alpha V800 and Alpha S600 are the ones, I haven't confirmed all the above requirements that I would wanna see in my next head unit.
Good Luck
maxpower2078 said:
I am in the search for the best, well best for a descent price that is probably double din card stereo with the best Android integration.
By that I mean mainly blue tooth and usb.
I know based on some of the bluetooth protocols there are quite a range of things that can be integrated (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth#Bluetooth_protocol_stack)
For example pluging into USB and the deck seeing the internal memory as well as SD Card to be able to play files from it, bluetooth being able to push music to the deck as well as the deck being able to communicate with apps such as pandora to skip tracks and such from the deck.
My searches thus far have lead to me this model http://www.crutchfield.com/p_105KWHR81B/JVC-KW-HDR81BT.html?showAll=N&search=KW-HDR81BT&skipvs=T
But I know there is one more bluetooth feature I would like and that is (MAP) Message Access Profile, which allows for text related messages to the deck for text to speech functions an such. (http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13746_...tooth-do-besides-make-calls-abcs-of-car-tech/)
So anyone have ideas, I think there are new models announced close to this time of year right?
Anyone have good suggestions for a review site?
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You want Android in your car...install a tablet in the dash. That's the best option, or you could go with the Parrot. But from the reviews I've seen I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole.
Car Stereo
Hi,
Did you end up getting this head unit?
Does it work well?
RSO86 said:
hey guys,
I've been searching for a Android Head unit for a while now. I too hate the fact that most of them are 2.3, but check this unit out.
ebay.com/itm/Hot-2-Din-Car-Radio-DVD-Player-Fast-Cpu-Android-4-0-WIFI-3G-GPS-Ipod-Bluetooth-/170939816360
recently stumbled over it. Wondering if any has seen one or has one, worry about the quality. Currently, I'm also considering Parrot's new unit.
Hope this helps.
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I wanted to get in on this thread to see if anyone has actually pulled the trigger and bought something yet.
I share the same mentality -- the phone/tablet can handle most of the "smart" functions. All that's needed is rock-solid bluetooth support. If it does great USB, that's a huge bonus.
I have one of the older Pioneer stereos that first did Bluetooth. I got it around 2007. The market has matured a lot since then and I'm itching for an upgrade.
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I wanted to get in on this thread to see if anyone has actually pulled the trigger and bought something yet.
I share the same mentality -- the phone/tablet can handle most of the "smart" functions. All that's needed is rock-solid bluetooth support. If it does great USB, that's a huge bonus.
I have one of the older Pioneer stereos that first did Bluetooth. I got it around 2007. The market has matured a lot since then and I'm itching for an upgrade.
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I've had a look around many different forums and stores, and I'm still at square one. I totally agree that all that's needed is rock-solid bluetooth support.
I've been into a few shops in the last few days and BT paired my GS2 running CM11 and Google Play Music with some head units....for what they can do via bluetooth, they all seem to do a decent job of it......I can skip/pause songs on either the head unti or the phone, Google Play Music on the phone updates as you switch songs on the HU.
But what it doesn't seem capable of (that I've seen or read about), which apparently iPhones can do, is change albums, browse by artist/genre, search, etc.....beyond the most basic of back/next/pause functions, unless I'm mistaken, it's just not possible when BT pairing an Android phone with any head unit on the market.
Can anyone definitively confirm that this is or is not true?
Well.... Now that android auto is in the making, maybe there will be some better offerings available for those of us looking for a good stereo!
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Well.... Now that android auto is in the making, maybe there will be some better offerings available for those of us looking for a good stereo!
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Until then what are we supposed to do ..buy an IPhone?
I have a Google Nexus 4 and went too the effort of looking into the options. I find it utterly amazing in an Android phone you can't browse albums over bluetooth its simply a joke!
The best option would be to try to maybe get a double DIN car stereo with support some kind of screen mirroring so you can change album from the touch screen maybe something like a AVIC-F60DAB but it costs a grand would be cheaper for me to buy an IPhone!!!
I belive you need the AVRCP standard if you want the track listing to display on your headset via Bluetooth.
Even if I could get a Car Stereo to support my mobile..the big problem with the Google nexus and it seems many Android devices they don't support Bluetooth very well. There is a bug in the Nexus 4 so that when you are using bluetooth in your car stereo after a while Bluetooth will just turn off Google don't seem to care about fixing this..I don't really want to get an Apple but if means I can listen to Music via Bluetooth and get access to Google Music then why not.!!
I have a Double Din car stereo. It's the Pioneer AppRadio 3 and it works well mirroring my Nexus 5. There's an app called "AppRadio Unchained" which let's you control your phone via the touch screen of the stereo. The only downside is the lack of power on the radio which makes the scrolling not as fast as any Android phone nowadays, but the Bluetooth has been working non-stop for me.
I had to buy an HDMI dapter to make it compatible though.
I've had a look at these but they are expensive! Maybe if I get a raise I'll buy one haha!
I was hoping to get something similar, but without having to use a HDMI adapter, a completely wireless solution would be kick ass!
Hey all,
I wanted to use my new OPO (without an extra SIM card) as a permanent slave to my original phone, and as a permanent fixture on my car as a car-puter for my 2005 Accord. I have to say, I am pretty impressed with the phone, and where I've reached now.
Hardware required:
1) OPO (obviously)
2) Main phone (In my case, my Note 3)
3) Car with Bluetooth Head Unit (depending on usage)
4) Cheap 7$ OBD2 Bluetooth interface from eBay
5) Raspberry Pi + RasPiCam (for backup cam)
Software:
1) Torque for getting data from OBD.
2) Navier HUD Free (For some cool HUD Effects for my car )
3) MapFactor Navigator for free Offline Maps and navigation
4) Google Voice + Spare Phone (didnt want to spend on another phone line)
5) Tablet Remote ()
6) Tasker
7) fqrouter [to be discarded and replaced with WiFi Tether router]
8) Tablet Talk
9) RTSP Player
Modules:
1) Wireless backup camera
I used Raspberry Pi with its camera module to use as a backup camera.
The Pi fetches the video and transmits it as a live RTMP stream using nginx web server. I can then see the stream play on my phone.
I use fqrouter to create a hotspot between OPO and RPi to get the live stream without losing tethered wifi connection with my Note 3.
2) Navigation & Car stuff
MapFactor Navigator free uses OpenStreetMaps to get free navigation to your phone. No need of a separate GPS unit.
Torque has the ability to connect to my car's OBD2 interface. It also has a HUD functionality which I thought was cool
Can also use Navier HUD Free for HUD displaying speed and navigation.
3) Communication
Now, this one was a bit tricky. I wanted it to be connected with my phone. Since I had unlimited 4G LTE data from T-mobile, I had to leverage that somehow. I couldn't just use tethering as tethering isn't unlimited (now found a workaround for that too ). So I wanted to use Wifi Tether only for Google Voice texts and rare phone calls.
Communication involves multiple things:
a) Receive Phone and Text
For this, I used a fine but no-longer-supported app called Tablet Talk. In the future, I'll try to develop something for myself. For now, this one is good. I can send/receive msgs that I get on my main phone (connected via bluetooth) from this one. As for phone calls, Tablet Talk gives a nice notification about who is calling, with the contact's photo and name synced from your phone book.
ISSUE: Tablet talk is meant for tablets. So when used in landscape mode, the answer/reject/speaker button goes below the screen. So I created a tasker profile, which says when I get a call notification on tablet talk, disable screen rotation temporarily. Does the trick
Another issue is that the calls are attended from your phone. i.e. call audio comes from your phone. Simple solution, also connected the phone with my car's bluetooth (another hack made from a broken 20$ Sony MW600 bluetooth headset I found on eBay). So I can answer the call from OPO fixed in car, and talk via car bluetooth, and the phone always stays inside.
b) Music & audio
I have my full music collection on my main phone. I don't want to sync and have duplicates. Thank's to a discovery by @darktranquility18, I realized that the OPO can be used as a media sync when using bluetooth. i.e. It acts as a bluetooth speaker for my main phone. Now, the issue I ran into was that I couldn't change tracks or volume using it directly. So I had to use another software: Tablet Remote. Works like a charm
That's all I have for now. Let me know if you can think of any suggestions, additions or ideas. Open to many more tweaks and hacks. After all, the phone says: Never Settle
Sounds like a great setup, but why use a $350 phone when a $150 Nexus 7 would do just as well and have a larger screen? I recently began using an 8" LG G Pad as a permanent carputer and couldn't be happier, but I'm going to take a look at some of the options you've detailed here, so thanks for that. I leverage Tasker pretty heavily for automating tasks when the car turns on, turns off, etc.
rant said:
Sounds like a great setup, but why use a $350 phone when a $150 Nexus 7 would do just as well and have a larger screen? I recently began using an 8" LG G Pad as a permanent carputer and couldn't be happier, but I'm going to take a look at some of the options you've detailed here, so thanks for that. I leverage Tasker pretty heavily for automating tasks when the car turns on, turns off, etc.
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Simple reason:
I had a 350$ phone that I got for free just lying around as a spare phone. I don't have a spare tablet
So essentially, the only amount I spent just for this is the $7 Bluetooth ODB2 connector.
Also, I didnt want to modify the stock Head Unit. So I have a stand (I added wireless charger for my note 3. Will make OPO wireless charging capable later) on my upper dash which can hold a phone. A tablet will be too big for that and will block my view out of windshield. Once I get some more money, I will get the Metra dash kit and put in a tablet. This setup is what I have for now
CravingMender9 said:
Simple reason:
I had a 350$ phone that I got for free just lying around as a spare phone. I don't have a spare tablet
So essentially, the only amount I spent just for this is the $7 Bluetooth ODB2 connector.
Also, I didnt want to modify the stock Head Unit. So I have a stand (I added wireless charger for my note 3. Will make OPO wireless charging capable later) on my upper dash which can hold a phone. A tablet will be too big for that and will block my view out of windshield. Once I get some more money, I will get the Metra dash kit and put in a tablet. This setup is what I have for now
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Gotcha, certainly makes sense. Good luck with your setup. Having run mine for a few weeks now, can't imagine going back to a stock head unit. Waze, Spotify, Pandora, having my full music library, etc. can't be beat.
i stopped by, hoping for pics.... (nice setup btw)
muzhik said:
i stopped by, hoping for pics.... (nice setup btw)
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Ha, Thanks
Well, its just the OPO on a phone stand on my dash. Mostly it is the use of various software to make it do what I want.
But I guess I CAN put up pics of HUD and a video about the Raspberry Pi Backup module.
I'll try to make it this week and upload.
Yes please, that'd be cool
I'm also curious about that OBD2 thing you bought. Does it mean I can get that too? I have a Toyota Yaris
If you could post some pics and share some quick instructions, would be great!
Cheers m8!
LarsPT said:
Yes please, that'd be cool
I'm also curious about that OBD2 thing you bought. Does it mean I can get that too? I have a Toyota Yaris
If you could post some pics and share some quick instructions, would be great!
Cheers m8!
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This is what I got from eBay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/131033435850?_trksid=p2060778.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
It was $2 off when I purchased it. So I got for $6.94
The construction is FLIMSY and the covering breaks easily. But it can be easily fixed with super glue or something. I kept mine open as the LEDs inside give a nice glow-at-night effect to my underdash. I'll show that in video that I'll mostly try to make before this weekend.
What year is your Yaris? All cars after 98 year models (i think) need to have OBD2 compulsorily. It'll mostly be near your steering wheel side underdash, on the left near the fuse box.
It's recent, it's the '10 model. I'll look into it when I go back home after work
Cheers!
Pics pics we want pics !
rant said:
Sounds like a great setup, but why use a $350 phone when a $150 Nexus 7 would do just as well and have a larger screen? I recently began using an 8" LG G Pad as a permanent carputer and couldn't be happier, but I'm going to take a look at some of the options you've detailed here, so thanks for that. I leverage Tasker pretty heavily for automating tasks when the car turns on, turns off, etc.
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So you couldn't sell the phone and get the tablet pocketing the extra $200. I understand if it was a condition of getting it free. Also, you can do most of this with your primary phone and a nice car mount. That lets you use the device when you aren't in the car...
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So you couldn't sell the phone and get the tablet pocketing the extra $200. I understand if it was a condition of getting it free. Also, you can do most of this with your primary phone and a nice car mount. That lets you use the device when you aren't in the car...
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The phone was a gift. So no, wouldn't sell it. Primary phone is used by other people in the car to play music/games etc.
Not a good idea to continuously mount and remove that while I am using navigation and there are people in the car for whom nothing else matters other than playing Candy Crush or facebook .
I do use the device when I am not in the car. As I had mentioned before, it is just hooked to a phone stand/holder.
Also, let me clarify, the main reason for posting it here is since I used the OPO. You can use anything, any phone / tablet. I am not saying you have to use this phone only. I just happen to have a spare one, that's all. I wanted to show one more thing that we can use any phone/any tablet for. It was just an experiment.
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Pics pics we want pics !
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I'll try to get the video today once I get home
CravingMender9 said:
The phone was a gift. So no, wouldn't sell it. Primary phone is used by other people in the car to play music/games etc.
Not a good idea to continuously mount and remove that while I am using navigation and there are people in the car for whom nothing else matters other than playing Candy Crush or facebook .
I do use the device when I am not in the car. As I had mentioned before, it is just hooked to a phone stand/holder.
Also, let me clarify, the main reason for posting it here is since I used the OPO. You can use anything, any phone / tablet. I am not saying you have to use this phone only. I just happen to have a spare one, that's all. I wanted to show one more thing that we can use any phone/any tablet for. It was just an experiment.
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Sorry, didn't mean to dump. It is cool, but expensive for most. I look forward to seeing the pictures.
Apologies for the shaky video. Never done a video before, so was a bit nervous.
Raspberry Pi Wifi Camera Project Demo:
HUD Display (Upload in progress):
Images attached. I can write a tutorial about the raspberry pi module sometime later if anyone is interested.
Sorry, I know this post is old but this is the only reference I could find with someone seemingly having used an OPO (OnePlus One - I hope you mean) successfully with an ELM327 OBD2 Bluetooth adapter. I am having connection issues with my OBD2 adapter and was wondering if you had found a way around these issues...
Here's another thread I started describing my OBD2 adapter issues:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/help/oneplus-one-cm11-wont-obd2-elm327-t3152703
I have used a couple of OBD2 adapters. The successful one was from OBDlink MX. The hit and mid ones were the cheap ones from China that did not have an auto shut off features.
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I'm fairly new to this concept but I'm trying to get up to speed. Basically what I want to do is display waze, play pandora and other random things i do on my phone now. I would like to do it perhaps having the HU connect to my phone hotspot via wireless for data and perhaps even use the phones GPS data. If not I can always run a GPS antenna to the HU. But basically I just want to be able to use waze, pandora and maybe a select few other apps. Is there something out there like this? I know about app radio but It also appears the phone must be plugged in via HDMI to make this work. I currently have an AVIC-Z140BH which is ok but the navigation sucks and pretty much all i use it for is pandora and album art. Being that it's in a loud vert I rarely use the hands free part of it but that's a nice feature to retain if possible.
This Avin Avant-2 is the closest I found, opinions?
Thanks much guys.
Dave