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Yes, its true, HTC is officially abandoning the windows platform!
What next?
SOURCE:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/05/18/htc_new_strategy/
http://forum2.mobile-review.com/showthread.php?t=64741
UPDATE:
Sources are confirming the adoption of the linux platform or symbian platform. Its most probably not going to take massive shape this year, but by next year we will see a significant change.
^^ Sources
register article is referring to smartphone platform only! maybe pda platform will remain with MS...
ItalianTytan said:
register article is referring to smartphone platform only! maybe pda platform will remain with MS...
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"smartphone" is generally used also for devices with touchscreen...
I think HTC is afraid of MS doing again what they have done with the media players business: they used other hardware vendors to create market perception and later they went for their own product (Zune) with a different DRM and left the "PlaysForSure" clan with cold feet.
Now that Apple has its own branded phone Microsoft will have to have a MS branded phone soon and that could mean bye bye to HTC and the other vendors, so better jump ship before it's too late.
This announcement could also be only a warning to MS; at the moment HTC is practically the only company in the world that could throw a blow at Microsoft: without HTC the MS market share in smartphones would fall to a level of insignificance and they would have to rebuild their mobile phone market share from scratch.
Btw, is there any other OS than wm6 that we can port into right now like linux or something, I really love trying stuff like this out. Is there any way to put s60 v3 or even linux onto my trinity?
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Btw, is there any other OS than wm6 that we can port into right now like linux or something, I really love trying stuff like this out. Is there any way to put s60 v3 or even linux onto my trinity?
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There's a Linux kernel out there somewhere - iPaQ 3900 was the last device I saw it working on eons ago...
AkshayGenius,
check Hermes forum, haret supports Trinity and semi-bootable kernel exists.
Doesn't boot completely on Hermes or Trinity so far.
hope some good UI os will come out soon!
i really dont wanna buy iphone..... unless HTC can come out better UI os...
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"smartphone" is generally used also for devices with touchscreen...
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Not really, in terms of Windows Mobile devices and WM5, you had the Pocket PC and Smartphone edition, the latter of which is on devices without touch screen e.g. HTC Meteor, Canary, Tanager etc.
I don't know if you mean "generally" as in all devices that are smartphonish on the market - you've got a lot that's not touch screen there too e.g. N95.
El_Mariachi said:
Not really, in terms of Windows Mobile devices and WM5, you had the Pocket PC and Smartphone edition, the latter of which is on devices without touch screen e.g. HTC Meteor, Canary, Tanager etc.
I don't know if you mean "generally" as in all devices that are smartphonish on the market - you've got a lot that's not touch screen there too e.g. N95.
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With "generally" I mean what you read in market researches. When you read about the Symbian market share that includes both S60 (no touchscreen) and UIQ (touchscreen) phones. Same goes for Windows Mobile.
The term "smartphone" was not invented by microsoft (did they ever invent anything? ) and it means "phone where you can install and use third party software beyond java applets" as opposed to "feature phone" where you can only use what is preinstalled in the phone (and only add Java applets).
So can anybody make an OS which I for ex can put on my p3600 for ex.
AkshayGenius said:
Yes, its true, HTC is officially abandoning the windows platform!
What next?
SOURCE:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/05/18/htc_new_strategy/
http://forum2.mobile-review.com/showthread.php?t=64741
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HTC has the best position in the market because of the Windows line. When they abandone the Windows platform, they give their market share to HP for example.
HTC also knows that Microsoft integrates everything from Office, Exchange, VOIP, Sharepoint to Live, etc.
Saying one thing and do some expirements with Linux, puts the pressure on Microsoft for nice deals (cheaper OS) for more HTC profit.
I haven't looked for other sources, but, a reading of the article hardly supports the assertion that HTC is "officially abandoning" WM. I mean, the ONLY quote just says they're "looking at" other OS's.
Talk about exaggeration.
i hope they turn to Linux, any exp coder will know that M$ is a piece of **** when it comes to resources, so look forward to faster, more stable phones. On the down side is the lack of app's supporting linux, but that said, the moment it becomes a reality, I'm there....
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i hope they turn to Linux, any exp coder will know that M$ is a piece of **** when it comes to resources, so look forward to faster, more stable phones. On the down side is the lack of app's supporting linux, but that said, the moment it becomes a reality, I'm there....
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Indeed so! BSD is now a reality on the iPhone - the mind boggles at how the market could look in 12 months. Mind you, I still prefer my Trinity to the iPhone but am particularly peeved that HTC haven't seen fit to officlally release WM6 for it.
LOL
WHY dont they contract with Ubuntu? make something like ubuntu mobile ??
LOL
than Iphone is ****ed.
qubit76 said:
i hope they turn to Linux, any exp coder will know that M$ is a piece of **** when it comes to resources, so look forward to faster, more stable phones. On the down side is the lack of app's supporting linux, but that said, the moment it becomes a reality, I'm there....
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If HTC would evolve a bit and embrace the 3rd party app model present on the iPhone, enhance it a bit and add support for fetching data from hardware components like gps modules, not like java, but something like Adobe® AIR™ for mobile devices with offline capabilities, that would be great foe everybody, most of the apps we use are for improving/replacing the poorly designed windows mobile apps&interface, other can be fully replaced by web apps, codewallet for example, imagine it with offline and online modes, sync between both, and you have your passwords accessible on any device or desktop, multimedia editing is also possible using flash and server-side code, like picnik.com, so, it would be necessary to create new apps, but this new model would be far better than the current one, it would also eliminate the need for manual app updating, it would... heh, make cracking impossible, so, good for the devs for that and also for the easier&cheaper development(VS not needed, html+css+flash+javascript+rails[heh ]), it would also give HTC the freedom to create a sleek GUI(compiz and stuff?) since its easier to replace the linux gui than wmobile, no licensing fees from ms i think.
ericlin0122 said:
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WHY dont they contract with Ubuntu? make something like ubuntu mobile ??
LOL
than Iphone is ****ed.
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Ha Ha Haaaa... I like that
Lets all bombard the ubuntu guyz with emails demanding a mobile version of ubuntu for ppc and all then finally we'll get what we want!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YEA!
ericlin0122 said:
LOL
WHY dont they contract with Ubuntu? make something like ubuntu mobile ??
LOL
than Iphone is ****ed.
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Funny you should say that. Have a look at this: http://www.wired.com/software/coolapps/news/2007/07/iphoney. In the article it mentions just this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded.
So Ubuntu mobile coming in October. As soon as a good GPS navigation software release for Ubuntu comes out - I'm trying it.
Has anyone ever thought about developing a face detection software program for Diamond/Pro which could act as another security feature to protect our phones? Maybe a good idea. Opinions about this as well.
The idea is good. But just thinking it may require a lot of resources to run this application and drain out battery easily. It is good for TP, but not TD
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Has anyone ever thought about developing a face detection software program for Diamond/Pro which could act as another security feature to protect our phones? Maybe a good idea. Opinions about this as well.
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Very good idea！But I thought it's hard to realize~
omegasc said:
Very good idea！But I thought it's hard to realize~
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I have been doing some searches and software is there for Mobile Phones but as yet not for pocket PC's that I can see. I notice the Nokia N96 on sale through 3 mobile Australia has it in its specs. Not sure how much space it would take up but I am sure that a phone with expandable memory (Unfortunately the Diamond doesn't have it) would definately be able to use it and personally I could not see the software taking up over 1gb of memory so the Diamond should be ok. Facial recognition is now available on Laptops running Vista so I am hoping that Windows Mobile 7 has it as part of the update when it comes out although I would like it prior to 2010 when WM7 gets released.
not really diamond specific. youd be better off suggesting in general software creation forum
Brendo said:
not really diamond specific. youd be better off suggesting in general software creation forum
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Maybe it could have but as the Diamond and Pro appear to be more technologically advanced compared to previous HTC Phones (obviously due to being newer) I would expect this latest technology would be more compatible to these phones.
They'd not only steal your phone but cut off your head as well in order to use the phone.
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They'd not only steal your phone but cut off your head as well in order to use the phone.
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I suppose its the same worldwide, but I know in Australia Mobile Phones are one of the main items of theft from a person and yes unfortunately violence accompanies many of them. Haven't come accross any heads been cut off yet here as yet but knowing society it wouldn't unfortunately surprise me if it did happen one day. I do believe though that we need to make it less enticing to steal our expensive phones. I know here the HTC PRO cost around $1300 outright or $32 a month if on a phone plan over 24 months equaling $768 which is a bit cheaper but then you are stuck with the one phone company regardless. Even if your phone got stolen you lose the dead money regardless so why not make it as least enticing as possible.
I think it is very good idea, there need not to be battery drain, you can activate recognition for example on access to Contacts or message store
ok so im new to this had my htc hd2 for about a week now, absolutley love it, but after having the iphone with lots of apps available for free i dont see many in marketplace could someone please tell me where i can get apps.
thankyou
There are a lot of free apps, search the forums in xda.
If you want 'FREE' apps google is your friend, but you can't ask people in here for stuff or links
The Windows Mobile platform is light years behind the iPhone for the application market. Yeh, there's loads around that do some things, but in terms of the micro-applications model that Apple has, WinMo is just nowhere near.
It won't be like that forever, but MSFT is playing catchup. Personally I think the release of WinMo 7 will be the big change that swings a bit of momentum. I still think MSFT need to release a dev environment better than the native (C++) and make it free.
I'm sure there are many more folk on here more qualified to talk such things than I am.
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The Windows Mobile platform is light years behind the iPhone for the application market. Yeh, there's loads around that do some things, but in terms of the micro-applications model that Apple has, WinMo is just nowhere near.
It won't be like that forever, but MSFT is playing catchup. Personally I think the release of WinMo 7 will be the big change that swings a bit of momentum. I still think MSFT need to release a dev environment better than the native (C++) and make it free.
I'm sure there are many more folk on here more qualified to talk such things than I am.
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Ever since I wrote my review iphone vs HD2, the number of Apps in the Windows store has STILL NOT CHANGED !!!! Around 60, vs. 100k for app store? And yes, they even managed to put a fart ap among the 60!
Looking at what you can get for the iphone, I'm considering to sell my HD2. The latest one is my payTV provider that now offers a free of charge iPhone app to watch any of may pay TV chanels on the iPhone.
What about HD2? Not going to do it.
So much for HD2 and WM platform - if the software developers are not developing for it anymore, why stay with WM?
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why stay with WM?
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Because it's not made by Apple.
lukohtchd2 said:
ok so im new to this had my htc hd2 for about a week now, absolutley love it, but after having the iphone with lots of apps available for free i dont see many in marketplace could someone please tell me where i can get apps.
thankyou
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http://www.freewareppc.com/
You'll find many (legally) free apps there.
padlad said:
http://www.freewareppc.com/
You'll find many (legally) free apps there.
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thanks does anyone no where to get bejwelled 2 with integragated (sp) facebook, that app was awsome on ipod would love it on leo
@timiano and the-uki
Why do you even use the Marketplace? There are tens of thousands of applications for Windows Mobile available! Windows Mobile isn't that far behind at all.
The appliacations just aren't in the Marketplace, but that's huge advantage over the iPhone: With Windows Mobile, you don't have to rely on a company to allow applications, developers can distribute their applications through whatever channel they want.
Don't bother buying anything from the Marketplace.
Instead, have a look at this forum, handango.com, mobihand.com, freewareppc.com and (for games) gameloft.com.
The best Windows Mobile application repository is unfortunately not legal, so I can't mention it, but the sites I mentioned already give you a glance at what is available for Windows Mobile.
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Ever since I wrote my review iphone vs HD2, the number of Apps in the Windows store has STILL NOT CHANGED !!!! Around 60, vs. 100k for app store? And yes, they even managed to put a fart ap among the 60!
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How many apps do you think were available for the Iphone when it had just been released ?? Probably not much either. So, how can you expect that there's thousands of apps in the Windows store, when it's only just 'open for business'?
As already stated before, there's lot's of places where Windows Mobile Apps are available, many for free!
So stop complaining about the amount of apps in the Windows Store, and try searching the Web.....I hear Google is pretty good doing that for you.
can you pm the link??
i dont know about u but personally i LMAO everytime i see an iphone ad which is actually advertising the tons of apps that 3rd party devs have actually made for them rather than advertising their product....
their moto.. "an app for everything.." lol WM had an app for everything way before apple even developed iphone!
i even had an app for everything in my old Symbian S60 phone
Mabye we can get an XDA "Marketplace" in near future?
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Mabye we can get an XDA "Marketplace" in near future?
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that would be good, seen some pretty good stuff here.
sorry for my little remark - it's only a funny comparison, but the question "Where can I find apps?" at xda-developers
is to compare with
"Do you have shoes?" in a shoe shop
sorry, not meant angry or so, just joking
MichelDiamond said:
sorry for my little remark - it's only a funny comparison, but the question "Where can I find apps?" at xda-developers
is to compare with
"Do you have shoes?" in a shoe shop
sorry, not meant angry or so, just joking
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like i said in post im new and only joined last night so just getting used to it all.
Check my siggy for some.
download apps
Hello everyone.
I thing that the bests sites for downloading apps for windows mobile 5,6,6.5 is:
http://www.microsoft.com/emea/windowsmobileapps/default.mspx
http://speckyboy.com/2009/07/27/49-free-windows-mobile-6-smartphone-apps-and-services/
http://download.cnet.com/mobile/cell-phone-applications/?filter=os=101
That's all.If i helped you please send me a message.
p.s.:Sorry for my bad english but i speak greek and the english is my second language
skr_xd said:
Check my siggy for some.
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cheers dude some awsome apps there i now love my leo alot more
seed_al said:
@timiano and the-uki
Why do you even use the Marketplace? There are tens of thousands of applications for Windows Mobile available! Windows Mobile isn't that far behind at all.
The appliacations just aren't in the Marketplace, but that's huge advantage over the iPhone: With Windows Mobile, you don't have to rely on a company to allow applications, developers can distribute their applications through whatever channel they want.
Don't bother buying anything from the Marketplace.
Instead, have a look at this forum, handango.com, mobihand.com, freewareppc.com and (for games) gameloft.com.
The best Windows Mobile application repository is unfortunately not legal, so I can't mention it, but the sites I mentioned already give you a glance at what is available for Windows Mobile.
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Hi
Thanks for the reply. I don't use the marketplace as my main source of apps, and I've had an on off relationship with WinMo for quite some time and have used handango extensively in the past.
One of my biggest gripes over the App Store from Apple was its monopoly over what could be or not be in there. MSFT's model appears a little different as they appear to be more concerned about compliance rather than commercial conflicts - which is good.
But honestly, if you want WinMo to compete in the iPhone and Droid space, which I'm sure MSFT want, then their needs to be a marketplace for micro applications that cost reasonable amounts. And the apps need to be slick looking and not your usual .Net CF form bores.
I believe it will come, but it'll take some time.
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That is an awesome idea. I'm surprised Handango don't have an installable marketplace app. I'd bet money on them having one in the near future though.
I know WP7 is going to be GSM-only until next year, but is there any chance of it running on the evo?
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I know WP7 is going to be GSM-only until next year, but is there any chance of it running on the evo?
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Really? You cant search?
To answer you, no. It will pretty much positively never-have-i-ever happen.
Why would you want it to? Lol
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Leukay said:
Really? You cant search?
To answer you, no. It will pretty much positively never-have-i-ever happen.
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lol, bad day??
To the OP:
In short, no. Micro$oft will charge carriers to load Windows on phones. So without a pre-activated Windows phone, you will not have the correct validation to load WM7 on a non Windows phone. But of course... with money you can do anything. Such as buying Windows Mobile software...then configuring all the hardware...etc etc. But I think you catch my drift. lol Just a big hassle.
You can do it vice versa because Android is open sourced.
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Why would you want it to? Lol
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Because he's not a hater and choice is always better?
You can get the Zune Home launcher app thing. Makes it very WP7.
actually it most likely will be possible, thing is the radio probably wont work till the cdma version comes out. seeing as it has been ported to the hd2 it seem very possible. android is a great os but if you have a device that allows you to test an other os why not i would love to try wp7 out.
engadget.com/2010/03/28/htc-hd2-gets-early-windows-phone-7-os-port-could-be-released-be/
Most importantly, it would be illegal since you would not have a legit license. There is no retail version of Windows Phone 7 nor will there ever be. It's one thing to use an OEM licence on a phone that already had an authorized OEM license... but it is another thing to use an OEM app on hardware it was not designed for. It would be considered piracy at that point and I doubt this site (or other popular sites) would condone that activity.
Also... if you want to make your EVO crappier, why wait for windows mobile 7 to come out? Just wipe your ass with it.
that endgadget video is sketchy as ****. there was a guy who posted almost identical video of him running iOS on sprint instinct when it first came out. It showed him holding the phone in front of the monitor just like that. In the end it was all faked, dont know why but the guy just disappeared.
so ya, till i see it, i won't believe it. + the OS looks bloated and slow. It will probably drain battery faster and lag/shutter.
well, at least in that case... its running on an intended platform... but yeah, win phone 7 is pretty much done before it starts. I am betting that MS will give up on the phone business after this. Maybe they will sell their employees to Apple. Apple will become the next MS after Android holds its king seat for a year or two.
i know once windows phone 7 comes out im still going to stay on android tho honestly i think wp7 is going to come out good microsoft has been doing pretty good with everything lately, windows 7, ie9 the kin was a fail lol but i think wp7 will be a pretty strong player in the smart phone market and problem is most of you are calling it a piece of **** before using it i think it deserves a chance and if you guys are right and it is **** then i will accept your i told you so's lol
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Most importantly, it would be illegal since you would not have a legit license. There is no retail version of Windows Phone 7 nor will there ever be. It's one thing to use an OEM licence on a phone that already had an authorized OEM license... but it is another thing to use an OEM app on hardware it was not designed for. It would be considered piracy at that point and I doubt this site (or other popular sites) would condone that activity.
Also... if you want to make your EVO crappier, why wait for windows mobile 7 to come out? Just wipe your ass with it.
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wow fanboy alert. Yeah no one wants to see choice...............also all the sense roms on here are illegal to by the way
edufur said:
Also... if you want to make your EVO crappier, why wait for windows mobile 7 to come out? Just wipe your ass with it.
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lol.....that's pretty damn funny.
well regardless of what you android fanboys have to say about windows phone 7, as soon as it get released on sprint with a 4.3 inch screen and some decent hardware i will be switching. I was originally an windows mobile user and made the switch from the tp2 to the evo. I just couldn't pass up on the specs of the EVO and the hd2 wasn't released for anyone but t-mobile. I never thought i would like android but after using it i actually like it alot but with that said i definitely will give windows phone 7 a try before i make a final judgement
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wow fanboy alert. Yeah no one wants to see choice...............also all the sense roms on here are illegal to by the way
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Exactly. And when has MS come and knocked your door down for stealing W7...probably never, and have any of their products ever not been cracked or hacked before within a week of them being out...probably not.
I like Android, but it's still a diamond in the rough when compared to iOS. I think WP7 will be a good mid ground for most people. Android is pretty rough (especially without sense) for most non-techy types of people.
They won't sell wp7 as a stand alone so that means its not pirating because they don't sell the software. The software is preloaded into a phone you buy.
I think it would be HTC who we would be pirating....
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Wow... you all don't get it. You didn't really read my post as to what would make it illegal.
First... let me say this. I love Android... and I guess I don't mind being called a fanboy. But before I got my EVO, I stayed true to Windows Mobile for YEARS and shouted about how it was way better than anything out there. So I was an MS fanboy until it just became a reality that MS is filled with idiots who don't know how to develop.
Now.. when it comes to legality of software and licensing....
Windows Mobile comes installed onto many handsets. Those handsets by definition are licensed as OEM. Hacked Windows Mobile ROMS are OEM and when re-used on a Windows Mobile device, it is a gray area that has no illegal definition. But it is because those devices had the OEM license FOR Windows Mobile.
BUT... Android phones NEVER had an OEM license to use Windows Mobile... which makes installation on those phones (assuming someone can figure it out) a technically illegal act. IF, however, MS sold retail versions of just the Windows Mobile software (wont ever happen), then and ONLY then, could you legally install that software on any handset you could force it onto.
As for HTC and sense... and the ROMS that use sense being illegal. On what basis are you saying this? We buy phones that have sense on them. So using a ROM that still has it on there is perfectly fine.
I hope this clears things up...
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Wow... you all don't get it. You didn't really read my post as to what would make it illegal.
First... let me say this. I love Android... and I guess I don't mind being called a fanboy. But before I got my EVO, I stayed true to Windows Mobile for YEARS and shouted about how it was way better than anything out there. So I was an MS fanboy until it just became a reality that MS is filled with idiots who don't know how to develop.
Now.. when it comes to legality of software and licensing....
Windows Mobile comes installed onto many handsets. Those handsets by definition are licensed as OEM. Hacked Windows Mobile ROMS are OEM and when re-used on a Windows Mobile device, it is a gray area that has no illegal definition. But it is because those devices had the OEM license FOR Windows Mobile.
BUT... Android phones NEVER had an OEM license to use Windows Mobile... which makes installation on those phones (assuming someone can figure it out) a technically illegal act. IF, however, MS sold retail versions of just the Windows Mobile software (wont ever happen), then and ONLY then, could you legally install that software on any handset you could force it onto.
As for HTC and sense... and the ROMS that use sense being illegal. On what basis are you saying this? We buy phones that have sense on them. So using a ROM that still has it on there is perfectly fine.
I hope this clears things up...
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what he means, is android by design and default is an OPEN SOURCE project. (AOSP), which means it can be modified, used, and redistributed (in a nutshell), and Google HAS to release all source codes.
I think we all know WM is NOT open source, everytime WM or a Windows OS gets loaded onto a device/computer, somehow the manufacturer is paying for the OS. (again, in a nutshell)
On the contrary, Sense is HTC proprietary software, and NOT open source.
This is the reason why cyanogen refuses to put anything Sense related into his CM6 roms, because HTC hasnt OFFICIALLY given anyone the rights to modify and/or redistribute its code.
Is it "illegal" (for lack of better term)? Sure the modded Sense roms are..Will HTC out cease and desist letters to anyone here? I can almost guarantee they wont unless someone is profiting from there code. Just my .02 cents
The HD2 does, and isn't the EVO pretty much the HD2 with the addition of the front facing camera and android?
Id like to try WP7 for a few days or weeks and see if its worth switching over, but I dont really see it happening.
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Id like to try WP7 for a few days or weeks and see if its worth switching over, but I dont really see it happening.
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why you say that
Because microsoft is the devil and posting ROMS that run microsoft software would be considered warez imo.
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Id like to try WP7 for a few days or weeks and see if its worth switching over, but I dont really see it happening.
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You'd have to pay for a windows OS license to use it on your phone.
huskerpat said:
You'd have to pay for a windows OS license to use it on your phone.
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Hasn't [stopped] the HD2.
Award Tour said:
Hasn't the HD2.
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It has, except you pay for it when you buy the phone since it comes with WP7
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It has, except you pay for it when you buy the phone since it comes with WP7
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Under your reasoning I should be able to upgrade to Windows 8 for free.
Edit: Maybe you didn't realize that it comes with WinMo 6.5 and not WP7.
There's an app called "Windows Phone Android" that lets your try out the WP7 OS as a launcher.
It sucks... IMO
Android=Free, IOS+WM=$$. This is how it looks, Google made android and just threw it out on the streets and periodically supports it, Windows and Apple have thier OS's in their basement under lock and key, with an armed guard sitting on a stool.
the reason is that only android is open source. Most of the multi OS phones are there native (iOS or WinMO) and android. this can be done because they get the code for android and it is open source. Since iOs and Winmo dont release the info it is much much much harder to actually get the thing up and running on a non-native phone.
HD2 was a winmo native phone so it has winmo and people have made it so it can run android. Evo is an android native phone ... thus it runs android.
Additionally as stated there would be licensing issues as well and most respectable sites would not allow it to be posted since it would be warez.
Yep, so not gonna happen.
I would like to try WP 7... I wouldn't give up my 4G to test it, though. But I think WP 7 looks sexy
rstuckmaier said:
There's an app called "Windows Phone Android" that lets your try out the WP7 OS as a launcher.
It sucks... IMO
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Mis-information that is not the OS just a "mock-up" of it. It is a today launcher just like sense or any other launcher.
Righteous Joe said:
Android=Free, IOS+WM=$$. This is how it looks, Google made android and just threw it out on the streets and periodically supports it, Windows and Apple have thier OS's in their basement under lock and key, with an armed guard sitting on a stool.
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not really .... ask cyanogen about his early exlpoits with android.
omegasun18 said:
the reason is that only android is open source. Most of the multi OS phones are there native (iOS or WinMO) and android. this can be done because they get the code for android and it is open source. Since iOs and Winmo dont release the info it is much much much harder to actually get the thing up and running on a non-native phone.
HD2 was a winmo native phone so it has winmo and people have made it so it can run android. Evo is an android native phone ... thus it runs android.
Additionally as stated there would be licensing issues as well and most respectable sites would not allow it to be posted since it would be warez.
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Mis-information .... android is open source but that is not where porting for a touch-pro2 come in at, someone has to write the code and drivers for that port to work right... also there are some OS ports done on android phones like the nexus 1 and 2 .... and WP7 is definately not open source but is running fine on the HD2 so really its just up to some to develop the software needed for said OS ports.
jakdillard said:
Mis-information .... android is open source but that is not where porting for a touch-pro2 come in at, someone has to write the code and drivers for that port to work right... also there are some OS ports done on android phones like the nexus 1 and 2 .... and WP7 is definately not open source but is running fine on the HD2 so really its just up to some to develop the software needed for said OS ports.
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This is not mis-information. writing the codes and drivers with out the source is vastly more difficult then writing it with the source. I did not say it was not possible i just said that a big reason you see android on iOS and WINMO phones is because android is open source. this is true since having the source code makes writing the drivers much easier and very few people have the ability or drive to write drivers for an entire phone to work with a new os. in the case of WP7 it is likely that many of the drivers designed with previous versions of WinMO work in the new version as is or with very very slight modifications which would again make this much easier then creating a new driver from scratch for a closed source os.
If you honestly think android being open source isnt a huge contribute to the reason that most other os phones get android and most android phones do not get the other os then i dont know what to tell you.
jakdillard said:
not really .... ask cyanogen about his early exlpoits with android.
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Cyan's headaches/hiccups were with the NON-open Google Apps, not with the OS itself.
PS: learn to "multi-quote" instead of posting 3 times rapid fire.
Award Tour said:
Hasn't [stopped] the HD2.
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I think there's a very real possibility a cease and desist order is in the draft folder of some MS lawyer's email.
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