So, I know I want to root my DX and I know I want to load a custom rom, but I cant figure out which one. I've looked at the wiki but that just lists all the roms and doesnt really give a helpful summary to someone that has no idea what all the terminology means.
Could someone summarize the differences in the roms currently out there for the DX?
For example:
______ ROM is designed for users that want a vanilla android experience, ________ removes bloatware but doesn't change the performance of the phone
______ ROM is designed to push the DX to the limits of overclocking, _________ is very fast but sometimes buggy
______ ROM is designed for users that want to customize the look of their phone as much as possible.
b.licious said:
So, I know I want to root my DX and I know I want to load a custom rom, but I cant figure out which one. I've looked at the wiki but that just lists all the roms and doesnt really give a helpful summary to someone that has no idea what all the terminology means.
Could someone summarize the differences in the roms currently out there for the DX?
For example:
______ ROM is designed for users that want a vanilla android experience, ________ removes bloatware but doesn't change the performance of the phone
______ ROM is designed to push the DX to the limits of overclocking, _________ is very fast but sometimes buggy
______ ROM is designed for users that want to customize the look of their phone as much as possible.
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I will take a shot at this, and hopefully someone with more knowledge will come along and correct me if I am wrong on any (or all parts)
This one is what I was looking at and it took me a while to understand the AOSP abbreviation (Android Open Source Project) and as best as I could understand the Nexus One is AOSP. Stock, stock, stock. takes the Moto Blur out but doesn't change the voltage or overclock. So your peformance is just stock.
______ ROM is designed for users that want a vanilla android experience, ________ removes bloatware but doesn't change the performance of the phone
I haven't looked at this one because you can add some of the features like overclocking and under volting the DX with apps so I felt a stable ROM with the apps loaded with easy removal was a safer option (for me). You can drive a nice safe Toyota Camry (AOSP ROM) or you can drive a Formula 1 (Toyota Engineered Formula 1). Same company way different performance.
______ ROM is designed to push the DX to the limits of overclocking, _________ is very fast but sometimes buggy
This last one is a 50/50 for me, in that it requires updated (in some cases leaked) Verizon ROM's that you must first update to (such as 2.3.15 or 2.3.20 mentioned in the forums), of course they carry a risk for those unfamiliar with using SBF files (like me). You can then install the specialized ROM's that require the updated Verizon ROM's that are above our current DX release.
______ ROM is designed for users that want to customize the look of their phone
as much as possible
I am not sure if I was any help, if I confused you (and myself) or if another member can come along and clarify any of my points that I may have misunderstood. But what I posted is my take on them FWIW.
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So, I know I want to root my DX and I know I want to load a custom rom, but I cant figure out which one. I've looked at the wiki but that just lists all the roms and doesnt really give a helpful summary to someone that has no idea what all the terminology means.
Could someone summarize the differences in the roms currently out there for the DX?
For example:
______ ROM is designed for users that want a vanilla android experience, ________ removes bloatware but doesn't change the performance of the phone
______ ROM is designed to push the DX to the limits of overclocking, _________ is very fast but sometimes buggy
______ ROM is designed for users that want to customize the look of their phone as much as possible.
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1. rubiX focused, fission and apex are very vanilla
2. You oc any rom you want with an add-on app
3. All roms allow customization, some roms have more compatible themes than others
rubiX blurry and tranquility are close to stock feel, blur apps in tact but streamlined, there may be other blur roms. Most other roms are blurless.
Hi there!
For the mytouch 4G phone from t-mobile, it doesn't come with vanilla android (the stock android O.S).
So, once rooted, is it possible to flash it with the Stock Android 2.2 O.S? That does not have T-mobile's junk? If so, where or how can I find it?
I came upon several links, but wasn't certain. Also, what does it mean by RUU rom?
thanks!
I have no idea what RUU to be honest, never used one but I think it's the factory image that's used to bring phone back to stock, not sure if there's one for MT4G
There's no official vanilla 2.2 rom for this phone. The closest thing you can have is CyanogenMod. 2.2.1 is in RC2 stage and is very stable. 2.3 (gingerbread) is in unofficial alpha stage. It's very stable (as far as people say) but has it's bugs and there no official support from CM for it, only community. All other roms out there are sense based. All roms are in Development section.
Obviously, you need to be rooted to flash any of those.
Good luck.
RUU = ROM Upgrade Utility. It is essentially the rom that ships with the phone. You are correct in saying there is no true vanilla Android ROM. OP's best bet is to go with CM as you suggested as it is Vanilla Android with some features added and closest to pure android you're going to get.
Hi im new to android but have rooted my phone and installed the Stock HTC rom IE no Carrier bloat ware only thing is there are so many apps on my phone that i dont use and never will IE twitter facebook,peep,stocks,quickoffice,talk(dosent work in canada) amazon mp3 etc now what i was wondering was is there either a way to delete these apps (i have already tryed with titanium backup and chuck norris mode they just come back on reboot) or is there a Vanilla 2.2 Rom out there with the Sense user interface or even vanilla android 2.2 period i would prefer a way just to get rid of the apps then going through the root s-off and have to overclock it again many thanks in advance sorry for the noobishness also keep in mind this is the desire z not g2
Carrier:Bell
Phone:HTC Desire Z
Titanium back up has always worked for me.you can always find other apps to do that for you, however, you may want to try different roms ,if you want sense interface ,you could always try virtouos rom
but it will come with all the apps that you said you dont want like twitter and facebook, etc....
i would recommend CM 6.1.1,(vanilla android) it is android 2.2 and widely knows as the most stable rom in this forum ,and it comes with oc kernel built in , and just to let you know, you don't need to root and s-off every time you change your rom
also you could try CM7 nighties ,that is android 2.3 and it could be run as a every day rom even though the stable version is not out yet.
you could try different roms set them the way you like it and take a back up so you can always go back.
Titanium has worked for most, but not all apps I've removed in the past (some of the Bell bloatware on that version of the Desire Z). Absolute System Root Tool is a paid app that has worked for me when Titanium did not, and there are other methods also, I'm sure.
Be careful, as some applications you mentioned are pretty integral to Sense (particularly Facebook and Stocks), and might break some things if you remove them. I would definitely backup the ROM before trying to delete them, if you are not already.
Maybe a stupid question but have you got S-off?
For some reason when you restart it checks wich software is installed and that's is something the S-off does....
Yes, I have S-Off.
Now, If I can ask a stupid question, what procedure did you use to debrand your Z, and which official ROM did you use? I haven't kept up recently, but when I first got my Z in December, debranding to the stock HTC ROM required making a gold card and doing some hex editing since the stock Euro ROM was older than the Bell one. It was a bit intimidating to me, and I haven't so far had a huge reason to change ROMs (the shipped ROM has been great so far, after removing the bloat). And the whole issue became a bit confusing and muddled to me, since I believe there have been more recent official ROMs released since December (which would not require the hex editing?). On the other hand, I have no real reason for staying on the Bell ROM other than laziness.
I debranded my Bell D-Z to Generic Euro 1.34 (requires full S-OFF, check the tutorial for dummies), then flashed an overclocked 1.4GHz kernel (Godspeed update)
That's all I need: a plain 2.2 with Sense (until I put my hands on 2.3 )
found a perfect guide managed to get rid of alot of stock apps i dont use ie stocks weather etc and i learned how to use cmd line also titanium backup never worked
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809231
Hey
I used to have a nice ROM installed with a kernel that allowed overclocking. I would run my shift at 1.5Ghz and was really happy. Then when Gingerbread was coming out, I decided to flash a Gingerbread ROM because I was just excited for 2.3
Now there were not kernels for Gingerbread ROMs at that time. So formatted/wiped everything from my device using Clockwork Recovery. Now here's where I have a few questions:
After I wiped the entire device, when my phone booted, it seemed to have 2.3 installed so I assumed that since there was an OTA update for Gingerbread, it must have gotten updated somehow. I want to find out whether I have a custom ROM with 2.3 installed or is it a regular Gingerbread stock ROM that's on my device?
I would like to find out what kind of ROM is installed on my device right now and do whatever it takes to be able to flash a kernel that allows overclocking, because going back to 800Mhz from 1500Mhz is just not doing it.
I would also really appreciate if someone gave me direct links to a custom ROM (since I understand at this time it is impossible to flash an overclocked kernel, since HTC has not released official Gingerbread source code yet) with a flashable kernel that's completely stable and allows overclocking to 1.5Ghz.
I really don't care about the whole Cynaogen Mod etc, because I use LauncherPro anyway and from what I understood when I was reading about Cyanogen Mod, it doesn't change THAT much other than adding a little bit more functionality and mainly focusing on changing the phone interface, which is completely irrelevant to me.
Thank you in advance.
sajmonides said:
Hey
I used to have a nice ROM installed with a kernel that allowed overclocking. I would run my shift at 1.5Ghz and was really happy. Then when Gingerbread was coming out, I decided to flash a Gingerbread ROM because I was just excited for 2.3
Now there were not kernels for Gingerbread ROMs at that time. So formatted/wiped everything from my device using Clockwork Recovery. Now here's where I have a few questions:
After I wiped the entire device, when my phone booted, it seemed to have 2.3 installed so I assumed that since there was an OTA update for Gingerbread, it must have gotten updated somehow. I want to find out whether I have a custom ROM with 2.3 installed or is it a regular Gingerbread stock ROM that's on my device?
I would like to find out what kind of ROM is installed on my device right now and do whatever it takes to be able to flash a kernel that allows overclocking, because going back to 800Mhz from 1500Mhz is just not doing it.
I would also really appreciate if someone gave me direct links to a custom ROM (since I understand at this time it is impossible to flash an overclocked kernel, since HTC has not released official Gingerbread source code yet) with a flashable kernel that's completely stable and allows overclocking to 1.5Ghz.
I really don't care about the whole Cynaogen Mod etc, because I use LauncherPro anyway and from what I understood when I was reading about Cyanogen Mod, it doesn't change THAT much other than adding a little bit more functionality and mainly focusing on changing the phone interface, which is completely irrelevant to me.
Thank you in advance.
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If you just did a wipe and didn't flash anything, your still running the same ROM as you were before the wipe. If you go into setting > about phone > software information > more, this will tell you your current ROM (build version). If you would like to continue using Sense but want to overclock I would suggest MikShift 1.1, otherwise I would suggest the Shift Deck ROM. Both can be overclocked with several different kernels, just do a little reading through the dev section to see what best suites you.
Disregard, just typed what crump said but he beat me to it!
Hi,
this thread will serve as a useful aid to select a suitable NAND ROM for your HD2 and to also enable you to post questions on "which is the best ROM" and what not. I hope this thread will lead to a less cluttered forum where more often than not, there are questions asked on a suitable NAND Rom.
To begin with, here is a guide to select a suitable ROM:
Currently, there are 5 active categories of ROMs in no particular order:
1) Stock Android 2.4 Ice Cream Sandwich ROM based on a ported over AOSP code.
2) Stock Android 2.4 Ice Cream Sandwich ROM with Cyanogen Mod 9.0.
3) Stock Android 2.3.7 Gingerbread ROM with Cyanogen Mod 7.2.
4) MIUI ROM based on stock Android 2.3 with a custom UI and appearance.
5) HTC Sense 3.0 ROM with Android 2.3, ported over from other devices like the Evo 3D.
Descriptions and comparison of of ROMs:
For testing and as a daily ROM:
1) The latest stock ICS ROM is adapted to the HD2 from Google's AOSP source code and from that of the Galaxy Nexus. It is basically just Android 4.0 without any third party launcher and UI. The launcher is based on Cyanogen Mod's Trebuchet Launcher. Current builds are still in Beta or just came out of Beta stage. However, the ROMs are not buggy or slow to hamper everyday usage. Camera support is still slightly buggy and may result in force closures and VPN is still in the works. Moreover, graphics acceleration may not be as good and fast as 2.3 ROMs. Nevertheless, most features work and you can install your own third party apps like custom launchers and games. But, the developers are still working ever so hard to improve the ROMs so you cannot expect it to be the fastest and most stable just yet. It is recommended that you try this ROM to get a feel of ICS regardless of what ROM you are looking for.
Some ROM Examples:
A) Tytung's Stock ICS ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1354267
B) Michie's Stock ICS ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1417472
C) Smokin 901's MIUI ICS ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1439363
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For a long run everyday ROM with all the latest stuff:
2) This is the current development craze now, which is ICS with CM9. As with the first ROM, this one is also ported over from other devices. However, this ROM also includes Cyanogen Mod 9. Currently, most of the features of ICS are enabled, and all of Cyanogen Mod works. Like the former build, the VPN is still in the works and features like the camera and tethering may require some extra work and trickery to get them fully working. Since this will be the HD2's primary ROM in the very near future, updates are frequent and development is fast. Hence, if you are looking for the latest ROM with Cyanogen Mod and ready to join the development process, this is for you, as this will be definitely be the ROM to flash in future.
Some ROM Examples:
A) Tytung's CM9 ICS ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1434860
B) Redjama's CM9 ICS ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1412168
C) Xylograph's CM9 ICS ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1441462
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The current staple ROM for HD2 users. Suitable for everyday use, and its very stable and fast:
3) This ROM has come a long way from early beta releases and although the ICS CM9 ROMs are set to precede this ROM, this ROM offers the most features in the most stable and fastest package. This is of course due to the developers' hard work and not because of the nature of Android 2.3. These builds have Cyanogen Mod 7 and come with custom launchers like GO Launcher and ADW. Tethering, VPN, etc...everything works and most of the time are available for both clk and Magldr. Moreover, with Cyanogen Mod, you can access advanced features like overclocking, to keep your HD2 competitive with current single core devices. There many varieties of this particular ROM, where the lock screen,font,theme,etc may differ. However, the more eye candy and apps a ROm offers, the heavier it may be. If you are looking for a primary everyday ROM that has speed, stability and features, this category is for you. However, since there are many ROMs to be tried, i am not stating examples.
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For a unique twist to stock 2.3 ROMs and as an no frills alternative to the earlier ROM:
4) If you are looking for a light stock gingerbread ROM, this ROM is the closest you will get to. MIUI Roms are custom designed and modified gingerbread ROMs with a totally different UI, launcher and overall appearance. Although, the features of Cyanogen Mod may be absent, this ROM is still one of the best Android ROMs available. This is also a ROM that you definitely have to try, which could also turn out as an everyday ROM for you.
Some ROM Examples:
A) Langthang's MIUI ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1010498
B) jan-willem 3's MIUI ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1050645
C)patensas's MIUI ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1138088
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The ROM with the most eye candy and user friendly UI:
5) Sense 3.0+ ROMs are basically ROMs that are ported over from other HTC devices like the Evo 3D and adapted to the HD2. It has Android 2.3 and the Sense interface, which is considered to be one of the best UIs ever. Like the MIUI ROM, everything is customized. However, this ROM also includes HTC's own messaging, email, calender, browsing, gallery, etc apps. So all in all, this brings you a better user friendly experience. It also looks the best among most Android ROMs, with its crisp 3D effects. Some ROMs that are ported over from Beats devices like the Sensation XL have the beats functionality as well. Nevertheless, all these perks make the ROM the heaviest among all Android ROMs, and this can hamper performance and boot time. However, if you fancy some overclocking and tweaking, this ROM can be a good choice as an everyday ROM, especially, if you like the Sense UI.
Some ROM Examples:
A) Daekin's Sense 3.5 ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1124757
B) Dansta34's Sense 3.5 ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1275119
C) NRGZ28's Sense 3.5 ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=733649
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*Credits to all the wonderful and hardworking developers like dansta34 for making the HD2 very much alive today
With the above, i conclude my explanations and comparison of the ROMs.
I hope the information have been useful. Do post your questions regarding ROM choices in this thread. XDA members or myself will try to answer your questions quickly.
Disclaimer: I would like to strongly address that the ROMs i featured are not favored by me in any way or are not better in any way. They are just a few choices to get you started. Also, if you are in the HD2 Android business, i would advice you to try at least one ROM from each category and see which one you prefer. All information featured are based on my knowledge and experience. I do not assume responsibility for any harm done to your device when installing ROMs.
It would be better if you can contribute to this thread and provide information like benchmark figures, performance figures like available RAM and also personal experience faced with a ROM.Thank You
Cheers
fantastic read, truly a gem for us newbies. thank you very much. I like hyperdroid as far as i have used it, but admittedly i haven't even tried miui or sense ROMs yet.
if you are open to questions i have one.
Is there a ROM that is LOUDER then others?
is there a difference in volume in apps etc between ROMs?
thanks
latetogameHD2owner said:
if you are open to questions i have one.
Is there a ROM that is LOUDER then others?
is there a difference in volume in apps etc between ROMs?
thanks
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actually, yes. You have to look at the changelogs and the description of the ROM you are interested. It will have information of any attempts to increase system volume. For example, here is one from the AmeriCanAndroid's changelog: "swapped in a different default acdb file for louder sound". It depends on what the developer does with the ROM. Most of the time, it is not really to increase the actual system volume by alot, but to to tweak it, such that its clearer. If you also talking about media volume for music, there even more differences. Some ROMs have a DSP manager, which is a primary equalizer to first tweak the media volume according to your preferences(so if you want a 'louder' sound, you can increase the treble). And since its the primary equalizer, you can use the equalizer in your custom music player like Poweramp to further improve the sound or in Poweramp's case, you can increase the gain of the sound,which is technically, increasing the volume. This feature is only available in Poweramp. And of course, Beats enabled Sense ROMs have a slightly louder output.
latetogameHD2owner said:
fantastic read, truly a gem for us newbies. thank you very much. I like hyperdroid as far as i have used it, but admittedly i haven't even tried miui or sense ROMs yet.
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you should when you have some free time. They are all different ROMs, and the truth is, one ROM type can never have all the features of the other ROM type. Hyperdroid is a good ROM choice. But if you like the speed of Hyperdroid and want to try Sense ROMs,you will have to prepare yourself for some speed decrease...unless you are open to overclocking
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you should when you have some free time. They are all different ROMs, and the truth is, one ROM type can never have all the features of the other ROM type. Hyperdroid is a good ROM choice. But if you like the speed of Hyperdroid and want to try Sense ROMs,you will have to prepare yourself for some speed decrease...unless you are open to overclocking
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I disagree! I no my rom is faster than any MIUI or CM7 rom's, But my rom is the most advanced sense rom and has more features than any other sense rom made thanks to the help of my team! and also about the loudness i have sony xloud that increase the sound by almost double !
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I disagree! I no my rom is faster than any MIUI or CM7 rom's, But my rom is the most advanced sense rom and has more features than any other sense rom made thanks to the help of my team! and also about the loudness i have sony xloud that increase the sound by almost double !
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i know about the sony xloud engine: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1440998
if you need louder volume, you can flash it. But Dansta, doenst it seem a bit unjust to only flash a ROM just because it includes the sony xloud engine. Isnt it better if you can flash it with any ROM?. Im not saying your work and ROMs are bad. This thread was never meant to advertise ROMs and have a ROM smack down. By all means, i would really love to try your sense ROM mate. Im serious. If you are alright with it, please provide me with the link.thank you
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i know about the sony xloud engine: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1440998
if you need louder volume, you can flash it. But Dansta, doenst it seem a bit unjust to only flash a ROM just because it includes the sony xloud engine. Isnt it better if you can flash it with any ROM?. Im not saying your work and ROMs are bad. This thread was never meant to advertise ROMs and have a ROM smack down. By all means, i would really love to try your sense ROM mate. Im serious. If you are alright with it, please provide me with the link.thank you
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ok i have gotten the link from your PM.will flash it today,though i think that i have run this ROM some time ago. thanks for the ROM man. I have updated the sense rom examples.it now includes your ROM.
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1275119
i'd like to try it as well.
the quietest thing i run into is playing flash in skyfire.
will the sony thing increase it you think?
Yes it does.by how much I gotta test it and see.but since dansta himself says the increase is alot,we have to trust him
kawshigan said:
i know about the sony xloud engine: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1440998
if you need louder volume, you can flash it. But Dansta, doenst it seem a bit unjust to only flash a ROM just because it includes the sony xloud engine. Isnt it better if you can flash it with any ROM?. Im not saying your work and ROMs are bad. This thread was never meant to advertise ROMs and have a ROM smack down. By all means, i would really love to try your sense ROM mate. Im serious. If you are alright with it, please provide me with the link.thank you
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No mate my point was that there is roms louder than others and yea it would be good to be able to flash it with other roms but the problem is its a bit hard to release zips for guys to flash on other roms when all the roms have different setups for the folder structure!
I have a competely stock MIUI rom. It is fast and very stable.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1433923
If anyone is interested..
Ok,i have flashed Dansta's Blue Droid.First off, to answer the question regarding the sonyxloud engine, yes sound output has increased noticeably. Im not sure about exactly how much,but i would say hands down that it is at least 30%. Excellent job by Dansta and thanks to him. Moreover, this ROM is fast, the fastest Sense ROM i have ever tried. Of course, nobody can expect it to be faster than the lighter CM and MIUI builds, but the difference is not that much in terms of speed. But like i said in my first post, its personal preference. The Sense ROMs are the most user friendly and has the best eye candy and in this particular ROM, has the speed as well. For me, i am going to use this as an everyday ROM for now. But of course, we are all looking for the holy grail, which is a fast and stable ICS ROM. Lets all work together and help the devs by testing their ICS ROMs...And Dansta,ill be waiting for yours mate
did you try the regular version or the themed version?
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did you try the regular version or the themed version?
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the regular version.
And just a small note guys, lets minimize our discussion on a particular ROM or advertise a particular ROM. It has not happened till now,but i just wanted to remind you all so that we wont get into trouble with the moderators. This thread is open to all questions regarding the difference in ROMs,personal experiences using ROMs and of course, the ever inevitable "which is the best ROM..." question.
This might be a noob question but how do I change danstas new themed Rom from a bin file to a zip file so I can flash.
Thanks
Paul
Sent from my HTC Sensation XL with Beats Audio X315e using xda premium
please post individual questions pertaining to problems faced with a ROM at the ROM thread itself.
anyway, to answer your question, try renaming the file to .zip. I dont think it is supposed to be in a .bin format. Its probably a broken or corrupted file.
to be honest with you haldrics sense 3.0 sense Rom needs to be up there along with the others. his version 2.0 rom is both complete and stable and fast. is so underrated and deserves some attention.
my opinion, and ii have tried them all and just found this on to be the diamond in the ruff.
thanks for Al the hard work!
sent from my HTCHD2 running Haldrics Sense 3.0 rom v.2 & Marcs Kernel.