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I see the specs all over the Net for the T-Mobile Vibrant say there's an FM radio and that for the Samsung Galaxy S generally there's one too.
Is that accurate, is there FM radio hardware on the Vibrant? (I am not talking about software that provides Net FM radio, I am referring to the hardware radio.)
On the Touch Pro2 (TMOUS) it came without the FM radio app to use the hardware radio that was in fact on the phone. Is it the same with the Vibrant, where we simply need the FM radio app to activate the hardware radio?
Or does the Vibrant NOT have a hardware FM radio?
If the FM radio is on the motherboard, anyone know where to get the app or software to make it work?
I don't have much info for you, but a few of the reviews I remember watching on the net last week have said that the international version does indeed have a built in hardware FM tuner (you have to make sure to plug in headphones though, they act as your antenna). I even saw a demo of this app. I don't remember if this was on the international Galaxy S or the ATT Captivate.
So unless T-Mobile totally removed the hardware chip (I wouldn't say to be very likely) it should still be there. Hope this helps.
I don't know for sure but based 0on what I have read it seems like the Vibrant does have the hardware for a radio...and as of now there rumors that 2.2 will bring out the fm radio to its fullness but nothing has been confirmed as of yet.
Check tunein in the market no need for fm radio
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Check the think tank for this. It seems the Vibrant has the hardware as part of the GPS chip (correct me if I'm wrong). People are having a hard time getting it to work though. I'll try and find the link and post it.
I found the link, but i can't post it because i don't have rights.
stevja1 said:
Check the think tank for this. It seems the Vibrant has the hardware as part of the GPS chip (correct me if I'm wrong). People are having a hard time getting it to work though. I'll try and find the link and post it.
I found the link, but i can't post it because i don't have rights.
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Would be interesting if the GPS chip was a full software radio. Scan just about any frequency...
orells said:
Check tunein in the market no need for fm radio
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Second that seems to work well for me.
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dattaway said:
Would be interesting if the GPS chip was a full software radio. Scan just about any frequency...
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Mobile HAM?
orells said:
Check tunein in the market no need for fm radio
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True, but an FM radio would probably use less power.
Not a big deal for me since I have a tuner in my BT headset, but it would be cool if the Vibrant had one.
I thought people were trying to figure it out in the Dev board without much success.
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Mobile HAM?
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Yes. For the Atheros chipset on my wifi card, the Linux kernel has the complete source code. A few simple limit changes in the reg.c (if I remember correctly) lets me scan from nearly from 2.1 to 2.8 GHz. Unfortunately, I haven't figured out how to change the channel spacing, modulation type and all that.
is there a way to use to fm radio.apk from the i9000?
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Yes. For the Atheros chipset on my wifi card, the Linux kernel has the complete source code. A few simple limit changes in the reg.c (if I remember correctly) lets me scan from nearly from 2.1 to 2.8 GHz. Unfortunately, I haven't figured out how to change the channel spacing, modulation type and all that.
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hahaha. I gotta say, that would be a pretty stunning achievement if you could get that working.
I don't know really but 2 weeks ago I flashed Galaxy S i9000 Rom on my Vibrant and when I tried FM Radio first it gave me "Unable to switch on Radio" then I managed to switch it on but I only heard shshsshshshshshshs and when I shift the tuner to another band nothing happens !
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I don't know really but 2 weeks ago I flashed Galaxy S i9000 Rom on my Vibrant and when I tried FM Radio first it gave me "Unable to switch on Radio" then I managed to switch it on but I only heard shshsshshshshshshs and when I shift the tuner to another band nothing happens !
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How did you manage to switch on the radio? Just wondering may be that will give some clue. Also could you confirm if it asked to plug in the head set before it produced static.
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rakeshchn said:
How did you manage to switch on the radio? Just wondering may be that will give some clue. Also could you confirm if it asked to plug in the head set before it produced static.
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Indeed, how were you able to turn this on? Though, I am more interested in the transmitting side of having an FM Radio built in, but receiving might be neat.
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How did you manage to switch on the radio? Just wondering may be that will give some clue. Also could you confirm if it asked to plug in the head set before it produced static.
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inverseflux said:
Indeed, how were you able to turn this on? Though, I am more interested in the transmitting side of having an FM Radio built in, but receiving might be neat.
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Actually I used a custom made update.zip file to enable Arabic support on my vibrant (which it's inherited from i9000 ROM) .. Anyway after applying the update.zip I saw FM Radio icon in application menu so I clicked it and it loaded and asked to connect the headphone to use it as antenna so I connected the antenna and that message disappear. Then I clicked on start Fm Radio and at the beginning a message appeared telling me cannot switch on FM Radio so I clicked it again and again and for the forth time it worked ! I started to hear the (shshshshshsh) sound but unfortunately changing the frequency didn't show me anything! Maybe because it can be used only in US and I'm from Bahrain so maybe that's why it doesn't work !
Is the bahranian vibrant different from the US version? When I load eugene's "froyo that does not brick", I get nothing (i.e. no static). Additionally, headphone logic is reversed, so I only get the "please connect headphones" message when they are already in.
Tune in
Tune-in I ve found to be the best and most reliable Also it uses very little power if you are on head phones
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Is the bahranian vibrant different from the US version? When I load eugene's "froyo that does not brick", I get nothing (i.e. no static). Additionally, headphone logic is reversed, so I only get the "please connect headphones" message when they are already in.
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Actually we have only Samsung Galaxy S i9000 in my country and it's very expensive for me which is cost around $720 for the 8GB so I ordred my Vibrant from US through ebay..
at what price did u purchased from ebay ????
i m also from bahrain and want to purchase it
Does anyone know how to access the internal FM radio?
I installed the leaked connected music player and it has the option to use the fm radio.
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airbillion said:
I installed the leaked connected music player and it has the option to use the fm radio.
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I found the app but Astro File Manager would not let me install it.
airbillion said:
I installed the leaked connected music player and it has the option to use the fm radio.
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I tried that but the FM radio is not actually working is it?
clubtech said:
I tried that but the FM radio is not actually working is it?
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Nope, i've read on multiple places that Motorola has disabled the hardware that gives you the Radio feature and nobody has found a way to enable it through hardware mods.
as much i know u have to modify the mother board, last i check we do have fm receiver but antenna is not connected to the outer body or some thing and in order to to make it functional u have to do two things.
1. Modify ur mother board (connect the antenna)
2. Drivers for ur current operating system.
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I found the app but Astro File Manager would not let me install it.
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Try install Tunein from Market.
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elvisrps said:
Try install Tunein from Market.
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I think he refers to FM Radio not INTERNET Radio like Tunein.
Kelvin0007 said:
I think he refers to FM Radio not INTERNET Radio like Tunein.
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sorry ... I did not notice this detail ... since the Atrix has no radio tuner, internet radio only
atrix use Broadcom BCM4329 802.11n Wi-Fi, Bluetooth 2.1, and FM Tuner. but motorola engineers didn't connect the fm tuner to mainboard! if you trust yourself, maybe you can do this?
http://www.broadcom.com/products/Bluetooth/Bluetooth-RF-Silicon-and-Software-Solutions/BCM4329
as you seen on the link, this module has fm recevier & transmitter! so maybe a braveheart can makes our atrix with radio enable
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http://www.broadcom.com/products/Bluetooth/Bluetooth-RF-Silicon-and-Software-Solutions/BCM4329
as you seen on the link, this module has fm recevier & transmitter! so maybe a braveheart can makes our atrix with radio enable
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It's also a BGA package chip so if that pin isn't connected then we're surely SOL.
The pin is not connected.You can refer to Spirit FM radio thread.It had been discussed.
This thread is named like a tutorial, when it's a question. That's no good.
i looked at the thread and learned that, Atrix will not play fm radio, NEVER :banghead:
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Moto's original release specs at CES before the phone was available said very clearly internal FM radio.
But the Broadcom spec says FM TX and RX, meaning the chip supports both FM reception AND TRANSMISSION and that could explain a lot. The FCC might have certified the phone as apporved for sale on the condition that it could not transmit in the FM commercial bands, and that might have meant knocking out all FM TX/RX as one feature set.
If that was true, Moto could have gained a lot of good will by simply saying "We couldn't get FCC approval for the FM radio, we tried."
So few companies get it: You play honest with the customers, they become fans. You play honest with the fans, they respect you. They become loyal to you because you've been loyal to them. And then the sales start going up and everyone becomes happy.
Now that Google owns MotoMobility...Ah Jeez, talk about the deaf leading the blind.
--Red
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It's also a BGA package chip so if that pin isn't connected then we're surely SOL.
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In theory if I reballing a broadcom chip again atrix it could be enable radio FM???
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Moto's original release specs at CES before the phone was available said very clearly internal FM radio.
But the Broadcom spec says FM TX and RX, meaning the chip supports both FM reception AND TRANSMISSION and that could explain a lot. The FCC might have certified the phone as apporved for sale on the condition that it could not transmit in the FM commercial bands, and that might have meant knocking out all FM TX/RX as one feature set.
If that was true, Moto could have gained a lot of good will by simply saying "We couldn't get FCC approval for the FM radio, we tried."
So few companies get it: You play honest with the customers, they become fans. You play honest with the fans, they respect you. They become loyal to you because you've been loyal to them. And then the sales start going up and everyone becomes happy.
Now that Google owns MotoMobility...Ah Jeez, talk about the deaf leading the blind.
--Red
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Why FCC doesn't approve FM radio?what is the reason?
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Just use 4G or 3G and TuneIn radio; it uses very little data.
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Just use 4G or 3G and TuneIn radio; it uses very little data.
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*facepalm* You mustn't have been reading the thread. If TuneIn filled every purpose, we wouldn't need FM radio.
Hi all
I am a new owner of an ideos x5. I am very satisfied until now.
Now that we have many developers for ideos, can someone tell me if it is possible to enable the radio tuner for this device?
Thanks in advance
I think it is impossible。
It is decided by Huawei
daidalus said:
Hi all
I am a new owner of an ideos x5. I am very satisfied until now.
Now that we have many developers for ideos, can someone tell me if it is possible to enable the radio tuner for this device?
Thanks in advance
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There is no radio chip in the ideos X5, sorry you will have to use internet radio with 3g module.
I just get an ideos X5.
According to the specifications from hawaeii here:
http://www.huaweidevice.com/worldwide/technicaIndex.do?method=gotoProductSupport&productId=3547&tb=0
FM Radio supported.
So maybe there is a chance
I dont even know which software can capture fm radio. they are all internet type
Huawei clearly has some nerve stating it supports FM-Radio without providing a working app at all.
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I dont even know which software can capture fm radio. they are all internet type
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Not my FM app, nor the MIUI or cm7 app.
Does this device have a Broadcom or TI Bluetooth/WiFi chip ?
I suspect Huawei was planning to include FM but decided not to at the last moment for some reason.
carriers prefer you use their data plans of course....
and I think the carriers also effectively tell the manufacturers what to include or not.
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Not my FM app, nor the MIUI or cm7 app.
Does this device have a Broadcom or TI Bluetooth/WiFi chip ?
I suspect Huawei was planning to include FM but decided not to at the last moment for some reason.
carriers prefer you use their data plans of course....
and I think the carriers also effectively tell the manufacturers what to include or not.
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There is a kernel driver for a Tavarua FM device.
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There is a kernel driver for a Tavarua FM device.
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Qualcomm TAVARUA FM.... Very interesting, I haven't seen any other phone using this device. The "Code Aurora" (Quicinc / Qualcomm) FM app from which mine is derived contains code for that chip and no other. So it's possible. If Huawei didn't sabotage it, intentionally or not.
Very strange FM story on this device. As dancer_69 pointed out, this official spec page clearly says "FM Radio ... Supported" : http://www.huaweidevice.com/worldwide/technicaIndex.do?method=gotoProductSupport&productId=3547&tb=0
But some on this thread indicated Huawei employees were saying it won't be supported, or wasn't capable of FM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1057214
Perhaps they decided not to support it for some reason, possibly even due to hardware issues that might prevent proper operation.
But that official Huawei web page and the fact that it has a kernel driver seem to indicate they were planning to support FM.
Information on Tavarua is hard to find. The best info is the source code in the Code Aurora FM app and some kernels contain the driver in these files:
drivers/media/radio/radio-tavarua.c
include/media/tavarua.h
This seems to be a V4L driver with quite a few private Ioctls. Is the device name /dev/radioX or /dev/marimba_fm or similar ?
Not much info on Qualcomm website except this: http://www.qualcomm.com/products-services/chipsets/connectivity/fm-radio
Chipset Support
FM support is provided on:
* QTR8x00
* QSC61x5
* QSC6x95
* WCN2243 (BT/FM SOC)
Yeah it's registered at /dev/radio0.
I don't really like the chances of it working though. Huawei seem to like having a decent feature list, and then the implementation being generally half-arsed or buggy. If they didn't get it working then there's probably a reason for it, especially considering there's the Qualcomm app on CAF.
My Spirit FM app is reported to be at least partly working on X6 u9000 now
See this for some details: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19588094&postcount=1648
Latest test package is here: http://www.mediafire.com/file/5381ub38p0a1uym/Spirit_FM_Radio_v111122.apk .
I don't think I can even get one of these phones here in Canada. Maybe I should ask Huawei to send me one...
hey mikereidis
i've tested spirit fm with my ideos x5 with cm7 and the app recognize my fm chip but there is no signal. can you give me some ideas for get it working?
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hey mikereidis
i've tested spirit fm with my ideos x5 with cm7 and the app recognize my fm chip but there is no signal. can you give me some ideas for get it working?
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so it means that x5 really have an FM radio chip?
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My Spirit FM app is reported to be at least partly working on X6 u9000 now
See this for some details: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19588094&postcount=1648
Latest test package is here: http://www.mediafire.com/file/5381ub38p0a1uym/Spirit_FM_Radio_v111122.apk .
I don't think I can even get one of these phones here in Canada. Maybe I should ask Huawei to send me one...
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Hello mikereidis,
I've tried your app with the "HuaweiTavarua" Method and the "7 - Huawei FM (EnfAud)" Volume Ctrl Stream with root privileges and phones connected but I get no output, not even that usual radio static noise.
Is there any debug log or dump that I can take that you might find helpful?
it must have a fm chip, but when it hasn't it the app wouldn't let me choose a frequency
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so it means that x5 really have an FM radio chip?
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Yes, apparently so. Same as the X6 U9000.
Thanks all for your reports ! I have enough debug info for now, I just need to make time to do some fixes and gather some more info.
I'll let you know when I have a new release to test.
@mikereidis i will test your aplication with my Huwaei X5 . If that work i will include into a new MIUi ROm release if you dont mind ofc .
just checked the test version, no audio or static, Ideos X5 with latest Oxygen + Franco's Kernel.
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There is no radio chip in the ideos X5, sorry you will have to use internet radio with 3g module.
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Here are the details from under the battery:
Phone: Impulse 4G
Model: U8800-51
H/W: Ver.C
FCC ID:QISU8800-51
Mine has an FM receiver.
The program that accesses it, from the application info screen, is "FM Radio version 1.0" it was pre-installed on my phone. If it is possible to extract the program data, I'll gladly share the files from my phone.
-Edit-
I used Root Explorer and went to /system/app
I found FMRadio.apk and FMRadio.odex
Would either of those help you?
I am still using my stock rom.
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@mikereidis i will test your aplication with my Huwaei X5 . If that work i will include into a new MIUi ROm release if you dont mind ofc .
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I've been trying to avoid ROM inclusions, but am reconsidering. Would that allow or prevent Market updates ?
There are still some things hardcoded for /data/data/com.mikersmicros.fm but I can change that, if it needs to be in /system/app.
The only other things are:
- It has to be compatible with the paid Unlocker
- It shouldn't be distributed unlocked.
- My permission required for distribution in a paid ROM.
- No modification or misrepresentation of the app (Customised config files OK.)
According to specs on play store there is no fm radio (analog).
so, like old nexus, google doesn't support this feature but...there will be a ready and cabled chip? i hope so...
If someone has or will have confirm, please write here
Pretty sure they disable FM at a hardware level. Aka no chance
Looks like FM is going the way of IR
jacklebott said:
Pretty sure they disable FM at a hardware level. Aka no chance
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Looking at a few of the newer devices iPhone5, and the new Nokia Lumias, looks like the FM radio is dissapearing, like infrared a few years ago.
Guess there is not enough space for everything
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Pretty sure they disable FM at a hardware level. Aka no chance
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same story for lg optimus g. So, same hardware, same lack of fm tuner.
The only hope is hw ready and function disabled by sw. i don't think at this point.
What's FM Radio?
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What's FM Radio?
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Serriously? You have not herd a radio station?
You have a thanks button and don't know what to do with it? ...
Just press it
I think he was joking...
Sarcasm isn't interpreted very easily over the internet.
borich said:
According to specs on play store there is no fm radio (analog).
so, like old nexus, google doesn't support this feature but...there will be a ready and cabled chip? i hope so...
If someone has or will have confirm, please write here
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If it says it has no FM radio. THen it has no radio... simple
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If it says it has no FM radio. THen it has no radio... simple
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on nexus there isn't because google aim to increase cloud service in every way. For example, tune in is a better alternative than analog fm tuner in this scenario.
I want only know if they disabled by hw like samsung's nexus or by sw like nexus one.
Ever since I found the "tune in radio" app I haven't even cared if the hardware actually has FM hardware or not. streaming the same FM stations on this app doesnt even require headphones to be plugged in like most real FM solutions.
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tune in analog or digital radio is ireplacable!!!
radio is indepenant doesnt need internet to work.
while in sea you can receive radio probably not internet.
Any way
easily substituted by wired or bluetooth fm radio.
G
satiros said:
tune in analog or digital radio is ireplacable!!!
radio is indepenant doesnt need internet to work.
while in sea you can receive radio probably not internet.
Any way
easily substituted by wired or bluetooth fm radio.
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this is the point.
I wouldn't have issues with omitting it due to the cost. However, all recent ones have had a bluetooth chip with built in FM but with a disconnected antenna. Connecting the proper pin to the headphone jack can't cost that much.
The only reason I can see for this is to force people to use data due to carrier pressure or the radio tax in parts of Europe on devices capable of FM reception.
FM is much quicker than tunein radio. I have tunein radio pro and it finds stations hundreds of km's away as local but puts local ones as far away. It also takes time to buffer/etc and prevents you from scanning location stations quickly. So at best its a mediocre replacement.
They r doin away with FM radio Cuz u can't make money from it.. they got plenty of apps u can use. ex. "I heart radio, tune in " which they can make money off of data use....
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Looks like I'm going to whoosh through my data allowance with no FM radio, I listen to it all the time
FM analog radio is important for me. Streaming use internet connection and here, at my country, it is not cheap. I've got 350MB a month, so I have to look after data waste.
Silly question, ¿how many data use streaming fm?. ! hour listening to radio station = x MB.. What is,, not exactly but nearby, the amount of MB used???
Thanks.
+1 for having an FM radio.
Google re getting a daft as apple - Missing things off there devices - Being Vanilla doesn't make up for it.
Put an FM radio on FFS - Not that hard or costly
Does it come with a steam engine as well, because i need sh*t old tech.
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Does it come with a steam engine as well, because i need sh*t old tech.
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Radio isn't "Old Tech". Hundreds of millions of people listen to the radio in their cars every day. Its free music, it's the weather, it's the news, its entertainment, all without the use of a data plan.
It's not a deal breaker for me that the N4 doesn't have it, but its still a bit disappointing.
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Using spirit fm perhaps?
I know this has been posted before, but but nobody really bothers paying attention
So, someone with a N4, does spirit fm work at all?
Thanks in advance
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Spirit FM Lite is a no go. Here is the error I got upon firing it up.
Error: No FM accessible
SU:1 Fm:?? Su:0 Bt:3 Ht:0 Mo:UNK
Not sure if the N4 has an FM chip or not.
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Spirit FM Lite is a no go. Here is the error I got upon firing it up.
Error: No FM accessible
SU:1 Fm:?? Su:0 Bt:3 Ht:0 Mo:UNK
Not sure if the N4 has an FM chip or not.
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Thank you
Things aren't looking too good for the Fm crowd sadly
I think Spirit FM's developer wanted people to post an in-app log to him from the N4, to see if he can tell if we'll ever get FM working (because stock FW was never likely to work in the first place)
http://www.techrepublic.com/photos/cracking-open-the-htc-one-x/6363151?seq=54
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33484621&highlight=atheros#post33484621
Both the nexus 4 and US htc one x use the same wireless chip. And the latter has FM radio support, so, I doubt we can't have it too. It might be matter of someone developing a kernel and/or ROM with it.
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http://www.techrepublic.com/photos/cracking-open-the-htc-one-x/6363151?seq=54
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33484621&highlight=atheros#post33484621
Both the nexus 4 and US htc one x use the same wireless chip. And the latter has FM radio support, so, I doubt we can't have it too. It might be matter of someone developing a kernel and/or ROM with it.
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There was a massive thread on it somewhere here in Q&A, and the developer of spirit even chimed in. Someone compiled a kernel with ask the right drivers, and when everything was said and done, they arrived at the conclusion that FM Radio is crippled on the N4, just as it is on the GN.
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fastdan said:
http://www.techrepublic.com/photos/cracking-open-the-htc-one-x/6363151?seq=54
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Both the nexus 4 and US htc one x use the same wireless chip. And the latter has FM radio support, so, I doubt we can't have it too. It might be matter of someone developing a kernel and/or ROM with it.
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Just because it uses the same chip, doesn't mean they can't still disable it at a hardware level