I read, and read, and read. Most of the chefs cook this mod into their ROM's but i am using the desire from modaco, so i`m left out.
As far as i understand, you have to create 3 Partitions on the SD Card:
- swap
- Ext2/3?
- FAT32
After that you do some shell editing and that's about it.
I`m sure some are wondering as i do if:
- Can i create the partitions in Windows and then place the card back into the phone?
- If i install apps2sd is backup still required? Or will a new ROM Flash automatically use the installed apps?
So this is an appeal to someone with the heart and knowledge to help us out with a guide.
Thanks
Found this thread, so basically it should work after flashing that ROM on top of the current OS.
You do not need the swap partition... just an ext partition (size your choice)... the rest vfat... and you partition it using Amon_RA's recovery...
And when you flash a new ROM, you might need to re-enable App2SD in that ROM to see the apps installed in the sd ext partition...
a related question.... can the files of the existing apps be moved from /data to the new partition /sd and still function.....or do they need to be reinstalled?
I highly doubt you can just move them...
britoso said:
a related question.... can the files of the existing apps be moved from /data to the new partition /sd and still function.....or do they need to be reinstalled?
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tried this... was not successful!
I can't even get the "SD Secondary" to show up?!?
I've wiped everything
partitioned:
swap 0
ext 640
then installed a fresh rom I copied over and no "SD Secondary" showing up on the phone... any ideas?
I followed these steps exactly... (minus the memory number difference)
part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_P3T2mf5Pu8
part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdKBmWU-ALg
Guys,
If you want to use A2SD. Enothmer's new ROM seems to be the easiest at the moment, BUT many smart devs are putting efforts towards this.
Basically.
Copy your SD to your computer.
Partition it via Recovery.
512mb 96 swap our my settings
do an EXT2 to 3
I did a 3 to 4, you can use 3 though.
Re copy your stuff from computer BACK to your SD.
WIPE everything via recovery. factory, EXT partition, battery, davlik.
Flash Enom's 1.7.1 rom, Log in, Go into spare parts, click disk mgmt, check A2SD stuff, reboot. Your good to go. Use titanium back up, download, whatever.
Again, other good versions should be coming out soon. I think of the current models Enom's seems to be the easiest.
Yeah I pretty much gave up on it for now... it will be more worth it in the future when I get a larger SD card and my list of install apps goes up. For now I just don't go download a ton of apps...
quick question, where do i put the titanium backup folder so titanium can see it on a nand build. I have it on the root of the sd card at the moment but its not working like it used to on the old sd builds cheers
monkfish said:
quick question, where do i put the titanium backup folder so titanium can see it on a nand build. I have it on the root of the sd card at the moment but its not working like it used to on the old sd builds cheers
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Try checking backup folder name in backup settings in the application. Make sure both the folders have same name. I am using NAND version of android and TitaniumBackup folder is on the root of my SD card which works perfectly fine.
thanks mate solved it
recently jus port over from Sd build to nand and wanted to ask is there anyway we can test rom like what i used to do when i am using Sd build , because sd build all we need is copy and paste to SD folder and boot up but nand does not allow that.
So question is ,is there anyway we can backup the whole rom and head over to test other nand rom and if we not satifed then switch back to my default (hyperdroid) without losting any data
how can i check if i am running or ext3 or ext4?
thanks in advanced cheers!
.hide said:
recently jus port over from Sd build to nand and wanted to ask is there anyway we can test rom like what i used to do when i am using Sd build , because sd build all we need is copy and paste to SD folder and boot up but nand does not allow that.
So question is ,is there anyway we can backup the whole rom and head over to test other nand rom and if we not satifed then switch back to my default (hyperdroid) without losting any data
how can i check if i am running or ext3 or ext4?
thanks in advanced cheers!
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You can backup the whole rom using clockworkmod + u can check if you have a ext3/4 using titaniumbackup
i have titanium back up, how i can check it? and what is the difference between ext3 and ext 4?
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i have titanium back up, how i can check it? and what is the difference between ext3 and ext 4?
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when you first open titanium backup, you will see sd card storage and phone memory.. If you have ext there, then yes you have it if not.. then no
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Hi all,
I apologize for not posting into the appropriate develeopment thread but I am not allowed to post there.
[17.Sep.2012][MAGLDR/SD][NativeSD] NexusHD2-ICS-4.0.4-CM9-HWA-SD V2.7
Is there a way to move from a working SD build to this NativeSD build without losing everything? I imagine it can be done with TitaniumBackup but I wonder if I could somehow simply copy the contents of the *.ext4 files to the new EXT4 partition somewhere?
Thanks.
If you are already using an ext 4 for app2sd on your nand ..don't worry ...you can install native SD rom without problem ..and not losing data..native SD rom files get installed in a folder called native SD and your nand rom files are on the root of the ext 4..so you can have both using the same ext4
If you are using an SD build ..that means your files are on fat32 part...copy that..make a back up on PC..make SD ext 4 partition ...install native SD build ...copy back the backup on fat32 portion and you are good to go...you can have both
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Wait...how come you have files on ext4 using your old SD build?
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Thank you. I am currently using an SD build, my SD card is FAT32-formatted. Are you saying that all I need to to do is backup everything from the SD card to my PC, repartition to FAT32 + EXT4, copy back to the FAT32 and install the NativeSD build to the EXT4 partition? Will the new NativeSD build use the data from my existing data.ext4 automatically somehow?
Wait...how come you have files on ext4 using your old SD build?
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I don't have files on ext4, but I have "system.ext4" and "data.ext4" in my Android dir on the SD card.
Hacker4748 said:
Thank you. I am currently using an SD build, my SD card is FAT32-formatted. Are you saying that all I need to to do is backup everything from the SD card to my PC, repartition to FAT32 + EXT4, copy back to the FAT32 and install the NativeSD build to the EXT4 partition? Will the new NativeSD build use the data from my existing data.ext4 automatically somehow?
I don't have files on ext4, but I have "system.ext4" and "data.ext4" in my Android dir on the SD card.
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Hello Hacker4748,
I would recommend to create a fresh data.ext4 from your NativeSD build once it is installed. I also recommend strongly to format your SD card after you copied its content to your PC. Don't use fast format! The formating procedure will take it's time but otherwise you might get problems with installation and/or battery consumption.
If you haven't read it until now, here's a link to mengfeis superb HOWTO (don't forget hitting his thanks button ):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31414628&postcount=1
Have fun
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Hacker4748 said:
Is there a way to move from a working SD build to this NativeSD build without losing everything? I imagine it can be done with TitaniumBackup
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It can be done easily with TitaniumBackup. Keep the working SD build in FAT32 and TB will use this info to restore your apps, data and xml (calls, sms etc).
TB will not restore the icons - some loaders may allow you to backup and restore settings.
Cheers
Tom
Hacker4748 said:
Thank you. I am currently using an SD build, my SD card is FAT32-formatted. Are you saying that all I need to to do is backup everything from the SD card to my PC, repartition to FAT32 + EXT4, copy back to the FAT32 and install the NativeSD build to the EXT4 partition? Will the new NativeSD build use the data from my existing data.ext4 automatically somehow?
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the first part is correct....
the native sd is like a new rom..it will not touch your apps from the fat32 part of old rom...you need to install apps again on the native sd rom ..you can use titanium backup on your old sd rom, and install them all on your new NSD rom using Titanium backup (fat 32 part is shared folders for both builds..so camera pics or wallpapers from zedge and like are shared on both builds)
Thanks to all.
pakure said:
the first part is correct....
the native sd is like a new rom..it will not touch your apps from the fat32 part of old rom...you need to install apps again on the native sd rom ..you can use titanium backup on your old sd rom, and install them all on your new NSD rom using Titanium backup (fat 32 part is shared folders for both builds..so camera pics or wallpapers from zedge and like are shared on both builds)
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Thank you. So basically, If I understand correctly, the EXT4 partition on the SD card will basically be what the System.ext4 and Data.ext4 files are now and the "Android" or "ICS" folder will not be required anymore. Thus the EXT4 partition should be around 1,5 GB and the rest can be FAT32.
It is recommended to use a fresh Data.ext4 for installation (or to let the system create one from scratch) and not the existing one from my currently used SD build.
To backup and restore TitaniumBackup is recommended.
Anything I am missing?
Thanks again very much.
Yes...
Ext4 of the native sd works similar to data.IMG file.. of old sd build method.
Try it and you will understand yourself
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Migrate SD install to NativeSD
I have the same question but can't quite relate the answers to what I have on my memory card. I have a (mostly) working copy of 2.3.7 that I've been using for some time, but often have problems after connecting the phone to a computer - sometimes files added to the SD fat32 partition don't show up, or my ringtone on the SD doesn't work or .... So I was also wondering whether rather than install a fresh setup on NativeSD and reload all the apps (tried twice with 4.x versions and neither are happy) I could just move my SD install to NativeSD.
In the /Android folder I have kernel files, the large data filesystem, a smaller system one and some other stuff. Under /NativeSD I also have some kernel files and 2 folders, one for each attempt at a NativeSD install. I understand some of what's in startup.txt but it doesn't appear to be enough. I guess there must be things in the SD builds which tell the phone where to find data and system which would need changing? Is this possible?
Thanks
Moving from SD to NativeSD
Hacker4748 said:
Thanks to all.
Thank you. So basically, If I understand correctly, the EXT4 partition on the SD card will basically be what the System.ext4 and Data.ext4 files are now and the "Android" or "ICS" folder will not be required anymore. Thus the EXT4 partition should be around 1,5 GB and the rest can be FAT32.
It is recommended to use a fresh Data.ext4 for installation (or to let the system create one from scratch) and not the existing one from my currently used SD build.
To backup and restore TitaniumBackup is recommended.
Anything I am missing?
Thanks again very much.
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One statement is not correct: you WILL have to have an "Android" folder as it holds a data folder for many apps. Also you may want to read through my lengthy posts in the [GUIDE] NativeSD for Windows Mobile (WM6.5) New Users that I wrote (good info even for non WM NativeSD users).
Your statement "It is recommended to use a fresh Data.ext4 for installation" does not make sense for NativeSD. You can keep your current SD build and still use it. For NativeSD, the EXT4 Partition has a folder for data. That is why NativeSD is faster - it uses the SD card, rather than a file.
Cheers
Tom
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One statement is not correct: you WILL have to have an "Android" folder as it holds a data folder for many apps. Also you may want to read through my lengthy posts in the [GUIDE] NativeSD for Windows Mobile (WM6.5) New Users that I wrote (good info even for non WM NativeSD users).
Your statement "It is recommended to use a fresh Data.ext4 for installation" does not make sense for NativeSD. You can keep your current SD build and still use it. For NativeSD, the EXT4 Partition has a folder for data. That is why NativeSD is faster - it uses the SD card, rather than a file.
Cheers
Tom
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Useful guide - thanks - but the question remains - is it possible to move/copy an SD install to run from a NativeSD partition. I can see the folder in the ext4 partition named after the install, and the data and system folders in that. I can extract the data and system files from /Android into those easy enough. Question is, what to call the folder, and how to make the bootloader use it? Do I just move the kernel files to the NativeSD folder? What goes in startup.txt?
I've tried mr-evil1's EvoHD2 V10 but had the problem of it losing then re-detecting the sim card and needing a reboot. Thought it was a bit slow too even though it was on a Class 10 16 GB Samsung MicroSD card. That's why I'm wondering if I can just move my Gingerbread install across.
Thanks
NativeSD
MrSoapsud said:
Useful guide - thanks - but the question remains - is it possible to move/copy an SD install to run from a NativeSD partition. I can see the folder in the ext4 partition named after the install, and the data and system folders in that. I can extract the data and system files from /Android into those easy enough. Question is, what to call the folder, and how to make the bootloader use it? Do I just move the kernel files to the NativeSD folder? What goes in startup.txt?
I've tried mr-evil1's EvoHD2 V10 but had the problem of it losing then re-detecting the sim card and needing a reboot. Thought it was a bit slow too even though it was on a Class 10 16 GB Samsung MicroSD card. That's why I'm wondering if I can just move my Gingerbread install across.
Thanks
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MrSoapsud - it is not easy to move/copy an SD install to run from a NativeSD partition. You can find more information in the threads linked in my guide, in particular:
Howto port NAND to NativeSD | Step-by-Step
How is the NativeSD ROM work?
The easiest is to backup your apps and data (e.g. Titanium Backup), flash the new NativeSD ROM and then restore your apps. I would recommend Xylographs PACman or one of Tytung ROMs:
[13-NOV-2012][ROM][JB][4.1.2] PACman HD2 v1.2a [PA/AOKP/CM10][NativeSD][WIP]
[Nov. 18, 2012][ROM][720p] NexusHD2-ICS-4.0.4-CM9-HWA V2.8 [NativeSD]
[3.Nov.2012][ROM] NexusHD2-JellyBean-4.1.2-CM10 V1.2 [NativeSD]
Cheers
Tom
OK - thanks again. Will take a look at that stuff and/or try one of those other ROMs.
Szczepanik said:
MrSoapsud - it is not easy to move/copy an SD install to run from a NativeSD partition. You can find more information in the threads linked in my guide, in particular:
Howto port NAND to NativeSD | Step-by-Step
How is the NativeSD ROM work?
The easiest is to backup your apps and data (e.g. Titanium Backup), flash the new NativeSD ROM and then restore your apps. I would recommend Xylographs PACman or one of Tytung ROMs:
[13-NOV-2012][ROM][JB][4.1.2] PACman HD2 v1.2a [PA/AOKP/CM10][NativeSD][WIP]
[Nov. 18, 2012][ROM][720p] NexusHD2-ICS-4.0.4-CM9-HWA V2.8 [NativeSD]
[3.Nov.2012][ROM] NexusHD2-JellyBean-4.1.2-CM10 V1.2 [NativeSD]
Cheers
Tom
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Tried the 4.0.4 one but found it too slow to be usable. Then found a NativeSD version of the AmeriCanAndroid 2.3.7 release I'd been using before so installed that and added my apps back. Speed and usability are good. Do any of the 4.1.2 ports run at an acceptable speed on the good old HD2?
Thanks
Martin
MrSoapsud said:
Tried the 4.0.4 one but found it too slow to be usable. Then found a NativeSD version of the AmeriCanAndroid 2.3.7 release I'd been using before so installed that and added my apps back. Speed and usability are good. Do any of the 4.1.2 ports run at an acceptable speed on the good old HD2?
Thanks
Martin
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My experience is, all speed and comfort of NativeSD depend on your sd card.
If you have card with good random r/w speed then you just need to test which custom roms fits you.
If you have card with bad slow random r/w speed(not class, normal speeed etc) then my advice is do alot xda and internet search for fast sd card with good random r/w. When you find good sd card allways try to buy exact model, cause even small difference in model number makes big difference in random r/w.
Atm sd card manufacturers doesnt provide full info about speeed except normal read and write so expect alot time energy spend on research.
Htc hd2 how is getting older he will need more and more investment and sd card will be crucial one.
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Guys,
Sorry for this noob question, I have flashed Tytung's NexusHD2-ICS-4.0.4-CM9-HWA V2.7 Rom to my HD2 and need to back it up but I have all my apps linked to an ext2 partition on my SD card using Link2sd, I plan to use ClockworkMod Recovery for the backup, the question is will I need to unlink all the apps before making the backup or will the SD card need to be backed up as well. I have done a search on the forum but can't seem to find any reference to my question.
TomH01 said:
Guys,
Sorry for this noob question, I have flashed Tytung's NexusHD2-ICS-4.0.4-CM9-HWA V2.7 Rom to my HD2 and need to back it up but I have all my apps linked to an ext2 partition on my SD card using Link2sd, I plan to use ClockworkMod Recovery for the backup, the question is will I need to unlink all the apps before making the backup or will the SD card need to be backed up as well. I have done a search on the forum but can't seem to find any reference to my question.
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No need to do anything, just perform a CWM backup and everything will work as normal. The linked apps are fine.
Nigeldg said:
No need to do anything, just perform a CWM backup and everything will work as normal. The linked apps are fine.
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Thanks for your reply to my question Nigeldg, that puts my mind at rest.