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Hi fellow Xperia X10 owners!
Ive got my device now for 4 weeks and in the beginning my battery only lasted for like ... 5-6 hours max ? I got so annoyed i did some research on how to solve it, and to be honest.. ive seen MANY post and MANY solutions but none of them really worked or they were not explained detailed enough to make any sense .. after many useless tweaks i got my battery to last like 12 hours, and that is by just making like 1-2 phone calls and some messages, nothing more, left aside when i made photo's or used the web... so my device was still useless.
Then i started using "advanced task killer" and the auto-kill feature, but that didnt realy solved much so i installed "task cleaner" but that didnt do much either.
Now after 3 days trying to find out what the problem is, i finally came to the solution !!!
Many post suggest using "advanced task killer" but none of them really gave the perfect settings for it, well i finally found them out myself
The settings i use : Auto Kill Level ==> Aggressive
Auto kill Frequency => When screen off
Security Level ==> Low
And now for the first time EVER! my phone can last like 3-5 days without recharging!
Additional tweaks are: 2G only
disabling WIFI and Bluethooth
disable GPS and positioning
Disabling these 3 doesnt realy make any problems since you can access them quickly by using the "networking widget" so i dont care
also put screen brightness to auto adjust and all these other minor things you hear in all the other posts, i am not going to list them once more.
Ive made some photo's for you to see for yourself
I'm a new user so i cant post links yet.. so you will have to copy it
w w w.photoshack. com /index.php?cat=26302 (kill the spaces)
I'm not trying to fool you or anything, i'm honest
(its in Dutch btw)
Time since last Charge says : 4Hr 14min 11sec
And my battery level indicates 100%
At this moment it says 5hr 9min 10 sec and i just entered the 99% zone
i didnt really made any calls or anything, i just checked once in a while how my battery was doing so it was basically running idle but i am still Very impressed!
I'il let you know how it turns out tomorrow etc, after ive made some calls and stuff
Good luck to all of you and i hope your search to happiness is finally complete!
And yes i'm dutch so dont blame my spelling ^^
Regards, clintax
thx for your info, i'll try your setting now
interesting idea, but I think we need to go through the list of what it is closing down in case you want to keep anything running. I Will test your settings and see how it does.
I was just using Kill level - aggressive with security level - medium and it was doing ok. Nothing spectacular but at least I could go all day without needing a charge or battery swap.
i was wondering. What exactly did you auto kill on advanced task manager?
I keep looking and looking there is nothing particular i want to kill.
I'll try this out and see how it goes by tomorrow. And by the way are you using helix launcher, gde or anything? Or is this the only thing you're doing?
I set the level to medium instead of low, we'll see how it goes.
I've followed all of your guidelines, but when I set ATK Auto Kill Frequency to "Screen Off", it immediately turns the screen back on after turning it off. After letting it sit and naturally time out screen off, it immediately turns the screen back on... Vicious power-draining cycle.
Is there some other tweak that I'm missing in your post?
@clintax, I'm pretty sure that the real reason that you see this improvement is because you have basically disabled all your networking facilities.
I have wifi turned on (never turn off when plugged in), GPS is turned on (which is the best because it doesnt consume any power unless some app uses it), bluetooth is off (but can turn on on request via settings widget).
My phone lasts me over 12 hours, which is sufficient to cover a normal work day, I use it in the metro to read books, I check news and feeds occasionally. I use push email so that I get instant notifications.
Personally, I dont think using task killer applications to kill apps is the only factor in the improvements you report. Usually, whenever I check my battery usage, applications+android system are usually under 5% in total.
I'm pretty sure my battery will last longer if I follow your example, but my phone wouldnt be half as useful as it is now. I really dont mind charging it overnight.
Cheers!
j4mm3r
followed your instructions but didnt get help. actually, my major battery drains on radio and standby. the 2 items always takes more than 50% of the total drainage.
look forward to the comments from all of you.
Didn't see any improvements either. I usually get 25h+ without running any task killers or start auditors, with 3g always on and medium to hard usage of the phone, which I'm pretty happy with. So I think its the settings of the data and radio that drain the battery, not the applications.
As a fellow Dutchman I'll share my part
Well I've tried most stuff already on my X10 and the only stuff I can really find that drains my battery are faulty apps (or at least in combination with the X10), GPS and searching for network when I'm out of reach (which is seldom).
I've currently disabled Beautiful Widget using the Startup Auditor, because at some point it starts killing my phone by running 100% and not letting my phone go to sleep. And this is what I meant by faulty apps (or in conjunction with the phone/OS).
3G is always enabled (what would be the use of this phone if you would disable all features which makes a smartphone useful).
Network based location enabled (now using it for the Weather & Toggle app).
No taskkillers running whatsoever.
Running Helix Launcher2 as home with seven screens.
Sending 20 to 30 textmessages, browsing the internet for 30 minutes (half with wifi/ half without), some calls about 30 minutes, toying a lot on the phone two hours plus, some Google Maps navigation 15 minutes with GPS enabled.
This will get me two days of usage easily.
Oh and running R1FB001 at the moment but had these results already with the R1EA016.
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well yea, i installed helix launcher yesterday but i uninstalled it right away because i didnt like it so much.
Well to be honest, before i used the agressive settings etc on ATK, i used the same settings on the rest of my device
Wich are
-Only 2G
-No WIFI or bluethooth on
-Gps off
-autosync off
-dissabled auto-update, and put it on manual
-deleted the cash of moxier, timescape, mediascape in settings->my applications, and removed there icons from the homescreen
-screen brightness on auto
I suggest you take a look at this video from sony, wich explains it more detailed
(cant post links yet)
w w w .youtube. com/watch?v=P3H--BLPQnI (kill spaces)
and my battery still drained atleast 3-4% hr if not more, it is only from WHEN i started using these settings in ATK that my battery life improved like 500%!
BTW as for what features it kills by doing so i dont know yet, but at this moment everything still works perfectly
At this moment i have 14hr 23min 31 sec and 96% battery left, i'il post another pic for you guys.
Here are the new Pics: w w w.photoshack. com/thumbnails.php?album=10356 (kill spaces)
Cheerz
Well the important part off all this was Security Level ==> Low
it shows you like 3x more things running on you phone then normal, and i just killed them all except: Ignore list= ATK, Xperia Flashlight, Alarm, VizBattery, Handcent Sms and taskpanel, but i dont realy use taskpanel anymore
I am still trying to find out what it actually kills in particular but i heavent found any problems yet
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Didn't see any improvements either. I usually get 25h+ without running any task killers or start auditors, with 3g always on and medium to hard usage of the phone, which I'm pretty happy with. So I think its the settings of the data and radio that drain the battery, not the applications.
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I had two "battery cycles" where the battery lasted 48 hours with my normal usage (Moxier+Gmail in push, 3G data, no WiFi, some Bluetooth while driving the car, no GPS). I noticed that because I usually have a 24 hour duration, and at the end of the day, when I put the phone charging while I sleep, I still had more that 60% of the battery instead of the usual 15%! So I decided to not recharge overnight and so I get about 48 hours both times.
The third cycle lasted even more, about 60 hours!!!
However, starting from the fourth cycle... back to 20 hours, or even less... I have not changed anything, I'm not even using task killers... I really don't know what is wrong with this phone (the problem is not the battery itself, I tried with 2 original SE battery + the mugen).
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well yea, i installed helix launcher yesterday but i uninstalled it right away because i didnt like it so much.
Well to be honest, before i used the agressive settings etc on ATK, i used the same settings on the rest of my device
Wich are
-Only 2G
-No WIFI or bluethooth on
-Gps off
-autosync off
-dissabled auto-update, and put it on manual
-deleted the cash of moxier, timescape, mediascape in settings->my applications, and removed there icons from the homescreen
-screen brightness on auto
I suggest you take a look at this video from sony, wich explains it more detailed
(cant post links yet)
w w w .youtube. com/watch?v=P3H--BLPQnI (kill spaces)
and my battery still drained atleast 3-4% hr if not more, it is only from WHEN i started using these settings in ATK that my battery life improved like 500%!
BTW as for what features it kills by doing so i dont know yet, but at this moment everything still works perfectly
At this moment i have 14hr 23min 31 sec and 96% battery left, i'il post another pic for you guys.
Here are the new Pics: w w w.photoshack. com/thumbnails.php?album=10356 (kill spaces)
Cheerz
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Wow, the performance is just amazing. I suggest you start to use the phone instead of keeping it idle. Then you can share with us how the battery performs, thanks.
Which version of Advanced Task Killer are you using? as i have just checked mine and do not have the option to kill when screen is off
I have version 1.7.4 build46
piercewei said:
Wow, the performance is just amazing. I suggest you start to use the phone instead of keeping it idle. Then you can share with us how the battery performs, thanks.
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Hehe ty, well yea i am using the phone as much as i can, but at this moment i have exams and my social life came to a minimum which looks like i almost have no friend left ^^ but tomorrow i got my last one (after frigging 2,5months) HELL YEAH, and from then on i will start using my phone the way i am used to and not having it idle 95% of the time and i'il keep you guys updated as long as i am sober
Ps: 15hr 28min @ 95%
i saw the last link didnt work, i'il try again
h ttp:// w w w.photoshack. com/thumbnails.php?album=lastupby&uid=16302
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MarylandCookie said:
Which version of Advanced Task Killer are you using? as i have just checked mine and do not have the option to kill when screen is off
I have version 1.7.4 build46
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Advanced task killer v1.7.9 build 57 (directly from market)
Ok, so with the settings I used over night, I had a 5% drop over a period of 7 hours sitting idle.
Auto Kill level - Safe
Kill Freq - When Screen Off
Security level - Medium
BT, WIFI and APN - disabled.
I had a 1% drop in like 6/7hrs.. fell asleep whilst using xda, 3g was still running an all..
I just use taskpanel
Wifi, gps, bluetooth & auto sync off
also Adw launcher
Edit.. Firmware 016 (only cause I can't remember the rest lolz)
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Can people post what firmware they are using when they are posting their battery usage stats etc
Thanks
No matter how much SE can piss me off, I have to say they did a good job with the last update R2BA020 .
I did fully charge my battery, did not use any task killer or such only kept adw launcher. With a normal use the battery last me a little over 48 hours I was at 10% when i devided to recharge it again.
-Around 2 hours of video
-4 hours of reading with Aldiko
-1 hours of internet
-Around 50 txt msg
-20 call 5-15 min each
-3 Pictures
-4 Hour of music while reading
-Email and weather widget run to update every hour
-Fancy widget running
-Bluetooth on all the time
-Gps and wifi was off all the time
Bottom line it’s impressive, now I really can enjoy my device without carrying a charger and searching for an outlet all the time .
I completely agree, the 020 firmware is fantastic. My usage differs slightly but even using Bluetooth to listen to Spotify all day didn't drain my battery. Neither did using my phone as a wireless 3G modem with Wifi tethering.
Well, yes, nice improvements but the WIFI is still using a lot of juice
wifi is confirmed using alot.
the phonebook is now kind of stupid...
when you click a person's name, their contact shows up, and when you tap their phone #...instead of calling that person directly it would bring you to the dialer screen with the # entered in and you need to press "call" to call the person...
i mean..if im in someones contact page and i tap their #..im pretty sure i want or need to call them....i really dont understand the point of bringing the dialer screen up again..pretty stupid on SE's part in my opinion
Well a quicker step would be to long hold their name and call them
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Well, I've rooted my device yesterday, started using it massively around 3 or 4 am to reconfigure everything and now its battery is at 8%:
throughout all the process wifi was used for internet (when needed, of course), 3g/gps/bluetooth turned off.
* Installed a lot of apps, some using barcode scanner, some using appbrain.
* Synced with google
* Restored a backup
* Reconfigured a lot of apps
* around 6 sms
* tweeted 2 or 3 times
* 5 to 10 calls 10m~ each
* listened to music through the day (around 2 hours of music, simple last fm scrobbler was used to cache the data, didn't scrobbled yet)
* read a pdf book around 1 hour
* some random usage through the day, like checking online stuff.
* Since I go to work using the subway, the signal reception is quite poor, so the phone prolly was searching for signal during the day.
Even wifi draining a lot of battery, the phone battery was quite good for everything that I've done today.
Apart from the battery the whole system feels better, all the UI customizations done by SE are faster (timescape, mediascape, dialer and so on).
I can say, like all of you, SE did a good job on this update. I can't wait for the Q3 2.1 release. Seriously, I want 720p video recording so much
Greetings guys,
Whats the difference R2BA020 and B2FA020.
Thanks for your kind reply.
Vatis
has anyone noticed any difference in call quality - in call volume especially
this was the thing i looked forward to getting the most out of this upgrade but no much difference i notice, still can't hear very well in any outside environment
i hope this issue becomes resolved...
I usually use headphones while outdoors, so I can't help here. Indoors it's been quite good, at least for me.
dpk0875 said:
has anyone noticed any difference in call quality - in call volume especially
this was the thing i looked forward to getting the most out of this upgrade but no much difference i notice, still can't hear very well in any outside environment
i hope this issue becomes resolved...
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I was on fw 16 and it was a litter bit low but still fine, didn't notice any difference between 16 and 20 tho.
never heard of B2FA020 - Think it might have been a typo on someone's part?
Screen off while in call.
Not to start a new thread, I'll pin my question to this one. I've updated to R2BA020 (O2 Irl branded) and noticed that whenever in call the screen is not turning off, as it used to before. Did anyone else experienced this problem?
Regards, masterofp.
check your screen time out settings in the settings/ display/ screen timeout section.. it may be that it's reverted to a longer timeout period or to not time out at all.
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check your screen time out settings in the settings/ display/ screen timeout section.. it may be that it's reverted to a longer timeout period or to not time out at all.
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Nope, still @ 15 seconds...
Though overall battery usage seems to be better with R2BA020 (Rogers), I've run into an odd issue:
When tethering via PdaNet, my battery drains at an alarming rate. It dropped 20% in the past hour. This wasn't the case before I upgraded (was using stock Rogers firmware before) - it would drain, but much more slowly, going from 100% to maybe 55% over the course of the 8 hours I was at work tethered. It's almost as if it's not charging at all via USB (or is charging much more slowly than before).
I checked, and the phone does register as charging while tethered. So I'm not sure what exactly the issue is. Nothing else has changed.
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Turned off PdaNet during a meeting I had today just to make sure my X10 is charging properly via USB, and sure enough it is (gained 12% charge over the hour).
after updating into R2BA020, my sim tool kit and play now were gone. Now, I want them back (especially STK). Does anyone know how to do it? My X10 is not rooted yet.
I'm pretty happy with the new Facebook app. It got rid of the "Camera" icon on the mainscreen and replaced it with "Inbox", which makes so much more sense.
My ringtones got reset, and I noticed that Astro File Manager lost a few file associations. I'm prompted for all sorts of default apps etc now, but it's just a minor annoyance.
I did the update through the Sony Ericsson PC Software. The first boot after update took a very long time on the Rogers splash screen. I was afraid the device was bricked for a couple of minutes. I guess it was just the first boot, and the Xperia was restoring all my user data.
Does anyone have comparison between R2BA020 and R2BA023? appreciate if it includes benchmarking between them.
masterofp said:
Not to start a new thread, I'll pin my question to this one. I've updated to R2BA020 (O2 Irl branded) and noticed that whenever in call the screen is not turning off, as it used to before. Did anyone else experienced this problem?
Regards, masterofp.
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yes, Am also facing the same problem
I have my Arc for 3 weeks.
After observing the battery performance for 3 weeks.
This is my conclusion.
1. Battery drain in term of percentage per hour in standby mode* = 2.5%
*: WCDMA, mobile data off, Wifi off, using WhatsApp
2. Some apps could cause the battery drain. This is the list
a. Fancy Widget v.1.3.0
b. Kuwo Tingting
How to check?
1. Monitor with System Panel
2. Kill all your task with a task killer. Try to scroll the scree panel with your finger very fast. Are you feel lagging? If yes, system process run with around 30% CPU.
Make a system reboot will solve this problem for temporary. (Fancy Widget v.1.3.0 caused this problem to me.)
3. Check the battery usage. If you find an apps that use the battery but actually you are not using it or just use for a while, the apps is the culprit.
Hope this will help if you have battery problems.
Please share your findings (performance and problem apps) to this thread.
Thanks!
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*: WCDMA, mobile data off, Wifi off, using WhatsApp
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3G on or off? What do you mean mobile data off? Then how do you use the WhatsApp?
Some of my advise, is try to always keep the brightness 0%, then use it just when really needed. The screen can drain a lot of battery.
wcdma is 3G. i check whatsapp regulary by turning on mobile data.
at home i always turn on wifi.
actually not much different if you always turn on mobile data without sync data with your apps. but if you have apps like fb, twiter try to always sync the data, it will consume a lot of power.
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I rooted my arc with gingerbreak, deleted aload of bloatware and my battery is now 100 times better.
Currently had the phone idle for 38 hours with abit of usage with wifi on and battery is currently at 77%
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klungxda said:
but if you have apps like fb, twiter try to always sync the data, it will consume a lot of power.
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wait. what?
You know as Tips-thread, you should proofread your post over & over again. I find most part of it confusing & irrational.
gibbo82 said:
I rooted my arc with gingerbreak, deleted aload of bloatware and my battery is now 100 times better.
Currently had the phone idle for 38 hours with abit of usage with wifi on and battery is currently at 77%
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Please, can you post a link of how to root it? And besides, which bloatware you deleted? Thanks a lot.
gibbo82 said:
I rooted my arc with gingerbreak, deleted aload of bloatware and my battery is now 100 times better.
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Oh this is a good discovery!
If you could share with us which bloatware you deleted, it would be helpful for us!
klungxda said:
Oh this is a good discovery!
If you could share with us which bloatware you deleted, it would be helpful for us!
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this is what i have frozen (so far) using titanium backup pro
android live wallpapers
anonymous usage stats
anthalservice
call log extension (used for timescape and since i dont use i timescape its safe to freeze/uninstall)
chinese keyboard
event stream engine (used for timescape)
facebook extension (used for timescape)
home screen tips
live wallpaper picker
maps
messaging extension (used for timescape)
pico tts (text to speech)
playnow
postcard
retail demo
setup guide
sony ericsson sync
sony ericsson sync client wizard
support
talk
timescape
timescape legacy
timescape widget
tts service
twitter extension (used for timescape)
voice dialer
voice search
and i have not experienced any problems at all
Advice Dog says: Buy Sony Ericsson phone - Remove everything that makes it a Sony Ericsson phone.
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u jelly? :trollface:
I am using a stock LT15i - my batt doesn't drain that fast.
I have wifi and email sync on, brightness = 15% and occasional sms and emails. answer a few calls within a charge/discharge cycle and still have 80% within the first 5 hours of use and 70% the next 4 hours. 60% by dinner time.
I'm very satisfied with battery.
The only thing I've noticed is that when I played Dungeon Defenders with max screen brightness up, and had Wi-Fi on, it drained like a proper ************, over 30% battery in less than a hour. Dimming the screen down to lowest and turning off Wi-Fi helped a bit, but DD is a massive battery hogging game.
Any other game or app, the Arc takes like a champ.
Also, what Belazor said is extremely true - root it and remove unessential apps.
I also installed Green Power Free + Advanced Task Killer - anytime I go to turn off my screen, I just kill everything with that funny little widget. Can go for days with that kind of usage.
When I encounter one of those guys that complain about battery life of a smartphone, I silently grin inside, 'cause it's pretty clear that the smartphone is probably smarter than such a person. With smart usage of your phone, it can be extremely efficient and excel at what you want it to do.
I can usually do some gaming for 2-3 hours per day with screen dimmed to lowest ( daytime ), browse some net for ~10-20 mins, it'll last me for 2-3 days really.
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Also, what Belazor said is extremely true - root it and remove unessential apps.
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Actually, that was sarcasm.
I was saying I don't understand why someone would buy a SE phone and then proceed to remove exactly everything that makes it a SE phone - sans the shell.
Sure, part the reason why I bought the Arc was because it's sexy as all hell, but mostly it's because I like the software. If the Arc came with Android 2.1 but the sticker saying "we will totally update it to 2.3, pinky swear!" I would have dropped it from my list in an instant xD
Software makes the phone, just like clothes make the man.
People (including me!) will remove apps that come preinstalled that they don't use or want.. so for example, I removed Moxier and timescape off my x10.. I've removed a few bit and bobs off my arc too.. just saves memory and if they ones that run in the background all the time, then it keeps more memory free during normal operation.. making the phone quicker when under stress!
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Actually, that was sarcasm.
I was saying I don't understand why someone would buy a SE phone and then proceed to remove exactly everything that makes it a SE phone - sans the shell.
Sure, part the reason why I bought the Arc was because it's sexy as all hell, but mostly it's because I like the software. If the Arc came with Android 2.1 but the sticker saying "we will totally update it to 2.3, pinky swear!" I would have dropped it from my list in an instant xD
Software makes the phone, just like clothes make the man.
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I bought the phone for it's camera and design, that's all =)
An awesome tip that I read I just verified to work like a charm: use the "WCDMA only" option. It consumes around 1-2% per hour when stand-by. The another thing to complement this, it's root the phone and remove the bloatware. I'm almost satisfied with my arc (9/10). Goes incredible fast. It will be 10/10 when they fix the multiTouch issue
arcanixX said:
An awesome tip that I read I just verified to work like a charm: use the "WCDMA only" option. It consumes around 1-2% per hour when stand-by. The another thing to complement this, it's root the phone and remove the bloatware. I'm almost satisfied with my arc (9/10). Goes incredible fast. It will be 10/10 when they fix the multiTouch issue
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You mean GSM only ... right ? Afaik GSM is 2G and WCDMA is 3G ..
kiyu727 said:
You mean GSM only ... right ? Afaik GSM is 2G and WCDMA is 3G ..
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No. I mean 3G ONLY (WCDMA ONLY). I read yesterday that If you choose the "GSM/WCDMA preferred" (third option), it will constantly check for both so it consumes a lot more power. I'm now 3G only and battery is awesome. Of course if your network has a bad 3G, you should use GSM only. The important thing is NOT tu use the third option.
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No. I mean 3G ONLY (WCDMA ONLY). I read yesterday that If you choose the "GSM/WCDMA preferred" (third option), it will constantly check for both so it consumes a lot more power. I'm now 3G only and battery is awesome. Of course if your network has a bad 3G, you should use GSM only. The important thing is NOT tu use the third option.
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I thought GSM uses less bettery :<
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I thought GSM uses less bettery :<
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It does. But this isn't about the power used by each one, it's about the battery used when the third option is selected, because the system is all the time looking for both 2G and 3G anytime the signal goes a bit low. Of course, if you download a huge file, it will be faster on 3G but take more power, but if you're not about downloading and just common navigation, you will be ok. I've been on "3G only" since 10 am (it's 6:52 pm now, so it's been almost 9 hours), and I have 81% battery. Used whatsapp A LOT during the day, made 4 or 5 calls, sent some SMS, and played some Angry Birds (0% brightness). Besides, I removed all bloatware from phone (this helps too). Just don't use the third option.
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It does. But this isn't about the power used by each one, it's about the battery used when the third option is selected, because the system is all the time looking for both 2G and 3G anytime the signal goes a bit low. Of course, if you download a huge file, it will be faster on 3G but take more power, but if you're not about downloading and just common navigation, you will be ok. I've been on "3G only" since 10 am (it's 6:52 pm now, so it's been almost 9 hours), and I have 81% battery. Used whatsapp A LOT during the day, made 4 or 5 calls, sent some SMS, and played some Angry Birds (0% brightness). Besides, I removed all bloatware from phone (this helps too). Just don't use the third option.
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understood
My galaxy note is constantly displaying Android OS use between 50-70%.
Anyone else experiencing this issue?
Flash a Custom Kernel based on 2.6.35.14 (2 are available). This solves the problem.
thanx for the suggestion.
But i'd rather keep the stock firmware, for now, as this is my first android..don't wanna risk a brick.
From other threads i've read, there's a newer firmware 2.3.6 available for the germany galaxy notes. Any idea if it fixes this bug...its really annoying..i've already done factory resets thinking it may fix it .
I bought my note in st Louis USA . It had european charger and strange language that I don't recognize . it came as KJ4 build . So I don't know from what european country my note came but I downloaded and flashed Hong Kong rom 2.3.6 and its pretty good with battery , wifi , etc . I am just really disappointed with camera . My battery usage for android OS = 8% and Android system 7% . This link might help you . http://leemn.wordpress.com/2011/11/13/rooting-and-installing-cwm-for-the-samsung-galaxy-note/
abirsharda said:
thanx for the suggestion.
But i'd rather keep the stock firmware, for now, as this is my first android..don't wanna risk a brick.
From other threads i've read, there's a newer firmware 2.3.6 available for the germany galaxy notes. Any idea if it fixes this bug...its really annoying..i've already done factory resets thinking it may fix it .
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It definitely fixes it on the German Note... at least mine
I had/have the same issue. I flashed the latest KKA ROM which flahes the KK5 modem. I deodexed it and turned off some unwanted system apps. Running the CF-Root KKA kernel and Android OS spikes to about 30-40% at times. I don't think it really has much affect on battery life. From what I understand and have read, it has to do with wifi Scanning repeatedly. You can adjust your wifi sleep policy to help this.
abirsharda said:
My galaxy note is constantly displaying Android OS use between 50-70%.
Anyone else experiencing this issue?
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If it's keeping your phone 'awake' then you should install BetterBatteryStats which monitors Wakelocks. It'll tell you what OS services are going nuts.
It's happened to me a few times with rogue programs and USB host going crazy when I don't unmount correctly.
- Frank
Same thing happening to me? Do you experience heavier drain on wifi than 3g?
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budalica said:
I bought my note in st Louis USA . It had european charger and strange language that I don't recognize . it came as KJ4 build . So I don't know from what european country my note came but I downloaded and flashed Hong Kong rom 2.3.6 and its pretty good with battery , wifi , etc . I am just really disappointed with camera . My battery usage for android OS = 8% and Android system 7% . This link might help you . http://leemn.wordpress.com/2011/11/13/rooting-and-installing-cwm-for-the-samsung-galaxy-note/
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thanx but for now i don't wanna flash a custom rom.
kramdens said:
It definitely fixes it on the German Note... at least mine
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So you got the update through Kies or OTA?
ookba said:
I had/have the same issue. I flashed the latest KKA ROM which flahes the KK5 modem. I deodexed it and turned off some unwanted system apps. Running the CF-Root KKA kernel and Android OS spikes to about 30-40% at times. I don't think it really has much affect on battery life. From what I understand and have read, it has to do with wifi Scanning repeatedly. You can adjust your wifi sleep policy to help this.
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How do you adjust the sleep policy exactly, rooting ?
ChodTheWacko said:
If it's keeping your phone 'awake' then you should install BetterBatteryStats which monitors Wakelocks. It'll tell you what OS services are going nuts.
It's happened to me a few times with rogue programs and USB host going crazy when I don't unmount correctly.
- Frank
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So how did you fix the rouge programs and the USB host ?
lipsin said:
Same thing happening to me? Do you experience heavier drain on wifi than 3g?
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Yup...weird that wifi uses more battery than 3g..should be other way round..
abirsharda said:
thanx but for now i don't wanna flash a custom rom.
OK than follow THIS guide to install official 2.3.6 . I did and than I rooted with superoneclick with zergrush exploit
http://jjpda.blogspot.com/2011/11/n7000-how-to-flash-n7000zskk1-236.html
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Any misbehaving program either got their settings adjusted (stuff like sync frequency) or uninstalled. The USB host issue was, I think, because I unplugged the USB host cable without unmounting first. I just rebooted my phone in that case.
Well after countless number of hard resets....Android OS use in now around 11 %...
the difference i think was because of some apps....i'm not really sure...but this time i didn't install skype, winamp and viber...cuz every time i installed em...Android OS would be like upto 90%...
I currently have 2.6.35.7 with the KK1
would it be safe to update to the 2.6.35.14?
high OS battery is my only real problem.
Suzook1 said:
I currently have 2.6.35.7 with the KK1
would it be safe to update to the 2.6.35.14?
high OS battery is my only real problem.
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I have the same kernel but with kk3....dunno if 2.6.35.14 will help with Android OS battery usage...my note still has no update available....
The only thing i can suggest for now its most definitely an app you installed which is causing high android OS usage...read my previous post....i hard reset my note installed all apps i had before but not winamp, skype and viber....i've kinda narrowed it down to these 3 after many hard-resets...
When i had them installed....my phone lost about 2% battery per hour on standby....But now it loses 1-2% in 8 hours on standby...
I'm having the same this with the high OS battery drain and have skype installed. Going to remove it and see if I get the same result. I didn't have the other two.
I've got the 2.3.6 KKA firmware installed but the drain just suddenly started one time (not when I installed it). I figured it can't have been the firmware itself, but much more likely an application I had installed or had updated.
Doesn't ICS have a better breakdown of service usage etc? Should be perfect if they have done this. Just have to wait and wait and wait for the ICS version.
Surely there is an app out there that can tell you what in the "Android OS" is causing the problem?
As an indication of how bad mine is at the moment, I was 100% at 9am this morning, 11:30am now and its down to 84%.. That's really awful!
I want to reset the battery stats as it could simply be that, but don't have CWM installed on this firmware. I'm rooted though.
[update] I've removed the battery stats file and restarted to see if that will help too.
Adam_S said:
I'm having the same this with the high OS battery drain and have skype installed. Going to remove it and see if I get the same result. I didn't have the other two.
I've got the 2.3.6 KKA firmware installed but the drain just suddenly started one time (not when I installed it). I figured it can't have been the firmware itself, but much more likely an application I had installed or had updated.
Doesn't ICS have a better breakdown of service usage etc? Should be perfect if they have done this. Just have to wait and wait and wait for the ICS version.
Surely there is an app out there that can tell you what in the "Android OS" is causing the problem?
As an indication of how bad mine is at the moment, I was 100% at 9am this morning, 11:30am now and its down to 84%.. That's really awful!
I want to reset the battery stats as it could simply be that, but don't have CWM installed on this firmware. I'm rooted though.
[update] I've removed the battery stats file and restarted to see if that will help too.
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Yea...let us know if removing skype helps....
oh and i installed Asphalt 6 from the samsung apps store.....its not available in the market....i had also installed it before hard resetting my note.......and guess what....high Android OS usage again.....damn....removed it....and i think its back to normal....but still have to see if removing fixes it for sure......
I guess the battery manager will count power used by all hidden processes and services as Android OS...
I had exactly the same experience with Asphalt 6 too. Good game, but why it sucked so much power when not even in use, hell knows!
Skype not made a big difference that I could tell, but resetting the battery stats made an immediate difference. 2 hours since charged and only down to 98%. Usually it would be 90-92% by now.
How do you reset battery stats
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Same Boat
Hii,
Following are my stats
Android OS at 35% (Awake Time 1 hr 36 mins)
Display at 25% (on for 3 hrs @ 12% brightness)
Voice Calls at 13% (34 mins)
I don't know if the Android OS is a bit of a drain. Feels so. I think the Wifi Sharing and Wifi always remain on. So does Social Hub - use it to sync FB pictures to contacts as Social Hub offers great quality pictures unlike FB app or Friendcaster.
I do have Skype installed, but its never been initialised, never logged into.
I use GO Launcher, with 9 home screens. TouchWiz has been rendered empty (no widgets, short-cuts whatsoever running there)
I do use APW widget pack - Twitter & FB updates at 3 hours. GReader (with Google Reader syncing every hour). 2 Contacts widgets.
In addition to it, I also have the PowerAmp 4x2 music widget. Homescreen has Simple Calender widget, A "Make youw own clock" widget, a 1x1 Beautiful Widget Weather.
Dunno if the widgets are causing the drain or not.
Like you remarked, my battery drain ATM is around 1-1.5% per hour, with Wifi On and everything running and syncing (as above)
The standby time has been pretty decent. Whereas I am happy with charging everyday, if I could reduce the AndroidOS overload, I cud brighten up my screen a bit more
Dunno wat to do now. I don't wanna root now or try any techy stunts. The phone is only 2 days old yet.
Wud appreciate if anyone can guide me around. I will try to FORCE STOP the Wifi Sharing and Wifi Sharing manager, along with Social Hub, and EMail apps/services tomorrow.
Wud be amazing to lose 2% over 8 hours on standby. Awesome.
Screenshot of battery app is at twitpic.com / 7m4b7y
Running Android 2.3.5
Kernel [email protected]#2
Build GINGERBREAD.XXKK3
hi guys first of all i apologize for this post not having detailed info such as ss from BBS,GSAM and WLD and will post them later !!
and as always i guess with most battery related problems it happened suddenly and i really mean suddenly the day before yesterday everything was perfectly fine and i didn't have that ridiculous battery drain !!
i woke up yesterday only to find out that Android OS is taking more than 50% of battery usage with a drain like 20% over night
restarted many times and by the end of the day i installed GSAM and WLD (wakelock detector)
froze most of apps including the ones i installed recently but i didn't install that battery hog apps (nothing unusual) and also they didn't appear in partial wakelocks section of BBS
btw i don't use any fake battery extender tools or memory boosters it's just Greenify
i observed that sometimes when i unlock my device (i use knock code btw if that matter!!) wifi gets disconnected and reconnect again (wifi icon disappear and re-appear again in 3 secs or so)
i'll upload ss in a couple of mins
thank you
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and notice how it drained 5% in just 40 mins (20 mins SOT) !!!
ADM!RAL said:
hi guys first of all i apologize for this post not having detailed info such as ss from BBS,GSAM and WLD and will post them later !!
and as always i guess with most battery related problems it happened suddenly and i really mean suddenly the day before yesterday everything was perfectly fine and i didn't have that ridiculous battery drain !!
i woke up yesterday only to find out that Android OS is taking more than 50% of battery usage with a drain like 20% over night
restarted many times and by the end of the day i installed GSAM and WLD (wakelock detector)
froze most of apps including the ones i installed recently but i didn't install that battery hog apps (nothing unusual) and also they didn't appear in partial wakelocks section of BBS
btw i don't use any fake battery extender tools or memory boosters it's just Greenify
i observed that sometimes when i unlock my device (i use knock code btw if that matter!!) wifi gets disconnected and reconnect again (wifi icon disappear and re-appear again in 3 secs or so)
i'll upload ss in a couple of mins
thank you
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and notice how it drained 5% in just 40 mins (20 mins SOT) !!!
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Little more details about rom,kernel but wifi is destroying your battery,that is for sure. It's waking the phone thousands of time as you can see yourself
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Stevica Smederevac said:
Little more details about rom,kernel but wifi is destroying your battery,that is for sure. It's waking the phone thousands of time as you can see yourself
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yea i noticed that i read about something related to wifi driver issue idk
thx for reply tho and for my device it's stock D800y20 rom just rooted and even with stock recovery if it matter
This has started for me today also! Not sure what is causing it but I was fine prior to today. Maybe its a google Play services update?
keeepinitgansta said:
This has started for me today also! Not sure what is causing it but I was fine prior to today. Maybe its a google Play services update?
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idk but last google play service update was 10 days ago here !!
ADM!RAL said:
hi guys first of all i apologize for this post not having detailed info such as ss from BBS,GSAM and WLD and will post them later !!
and as always i guess with most battery related problems it happened suddenly and i really mean suddenly the day before yesterday everything was perfectly fine and i didn't have that ridiculous battery drain !!
i woke up yesterday only to find out that Android OS is taking more than 50% of battery usage with a drain like 20% over night
restarted many times and by the end of the day i installed GSAM and WLD (wakelock detector)
froze most of apps including the ones i installed recently but i didn't install that battery hog apps (nothing unusual) and also they didn't appear in partial wakelocks section of BBS
btw i don't use any fake battery extender tools or memory boosters it's just Greenify
i observed that sometimes when i unlock my device (i use knock code btw if that matter!!) wifi gets disconnected and reconnect again (wifi icon disappear and re-appear again in 3 secs or so)
i'll upload ss in a couple of mins
thank you
Edit: SS Added
and notice how it drained 5% in just 40 mins (20 mins SOT) !!!
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Hello,
I have at 80% the same problem, I loose 7-10% of battery per hours, without SIM, wifi, bluetooth...
I already tried most of all roms, kernel, try all cpu governor.
If you want to see my topic : http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g2/help/lg-g2-d802-battery-draining-5-0-2-t3256313/
If you are ready to dismantlle the phone, do it, and see if there is a problem inside. I hope you will resolve your problem and tell me if one day you gonna have a better battery
Dlazzy said:
Hello,
I have at 80% the same problem, I loose 7-10% of battery per hours, without SIM, wifi, bluetooth...
I already tried most of all roms, kernel, try all cpu governor.
If you want to see my topic : http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g2/help/lg-g2-d802-battery-draining-5-0-2-t3256313/
If you are ready to dismantlle the phone, do it, and see if there is a problem inside. I hope you will resolve your problem and tell me if one day you gonna have a better battery
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yea almost identical problem
i did tot reinstall and see how things go !!
sadly nothing changed and wifi still eats huge amount of battery idk how did this happen
well i'll update thread if anything changed
peace out guys
I had the same problem with battery drain(although not as severe) along with huge data consumption when using a significantly modified(i.e. heavy debloat and ota disabled) rooted stock rom. I tried a few customs roms and dorimanx kernel(not at the same time), and even though battery drain wasn't as bad, they were are waaaay to buggy to be used everyday(especially the dorimanx kernel, it's really bad).
Just last week I tot back to KK and ota updated to the latest LP rom(lost root unfortunately). Then I uninstalled/disabled every app I could/needed. Everything is very fast, smooth, and stable again. I now lose 1-2% every 8hrs in standby with syncing and wifi/data enabled, bluetooth and nfc disabled. I regularly get 5-6hrs sot over 48hrs with moderate use and brightness on auto.
I do have a new battery though - my old one( came with my "refurbished" phone from freedompop) gave me 2-3hrs of sot - but that was when I first got it and before I started modifying anything.
stan54 said:
I had the same problem with battery drain(although not as severe) along with huge data consumption when using a significantly modified(i.e. heavy debloat and ota disabled) rooted stock rom. I tried a few customs roms and dorimanx kernel(not at the same time), and even though battery drain wasn't as bad, they were are waaaay to buggy to be used everyday(especially the dorimanx kernel, it's really bad).
Just last week I tot back to KK and ota updated to the latest LP rom(lost root unfortunately). Then I uninstalled/disabled every app I could/needed. Everything is very fast, smooth, and stable again. I now lose 1-2% every 8hrs in standby with syncing and wifi/data enabled, bluetooth and nfc disabled. I regularly get 5-6hrs sot over 48hrs with moderate use and brightness on auto.
I do have a new battery though - my old one( came with my "refurbished" phone from freedompop) gave me 2-3hrs of sot - but that was when I first got it and before I started modifying anything.
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How is dorimanx kernel bad? How many user downloads he has,lots and lots then are we thousands of user wrong using a bad kernel, come on . Maybe it didnt work for you. But out of those thousands of users cant be wrong. If it was that bad no one would download. Just saying , you should just say it didnt work for you.
stan54 said:
I had the same problem with battery drain(although not as severe) along with huge data consumption when using a significantly modified(i.e. heavy debloat and ota disabled) rooted stock rom. I tried a few customs roms and dorimanx kernel(not at the same time), and even though battery drain wasn't as bad, they were are waaaay to buggy to be used everyday(especially the dorimanx kernel, it's really bad).
Just last week I tot back to KK and ota updated to the latest LP rom(lost root unfortunately). Then I uninstalled/disabled every app I could/needed. Everything is very fast, smooth, and stable again. I now lose 1-2% every 8hrs in standby with syncing and wifi/data enabled, bluetooth and nfc disabled. I regularly get 5-6hrs sot over 48hrs with moderate use and brightness on auto.
I do have a new battery though - my old one( came with my "refurbished" phone from freedompop) gave me 2-3hrs of sot - but that was when I first got it and before I started modifying anything.
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Can you tell us what app have you uninstalled and disable ?
What have you debloat ?
Thank you very much
My G2 (vs980) has also been suffering from a sudden battery drain. Android OS and Android System seem to be the problem. They are now second and third on the list of battery usage, after the screen. Before now, they were never that high on the list. I noticed this last weekend, when I kdz to the latest update for the vs980, which is 3AA. After noticing this, I flashed the xceed kernel, then cloudy with dorimanx kernel, and the battery drain continued. I even kdz back to kitkat, still the same, then I flashed AICP 11, and still the same battery drain by Android OS and system. Finally, I restored a backup of stock lollipop 39A but, the issue continued so I turned on airplane mode and it seems to help a bit. I still notice battery life isn't the same as before. The os and system still drain more than usual even on airplane mode.
Kind of glad to hear I'm not the only one with this issue. I don't think I need a new battery, since I bought the phone new in April 2015 from Bestbuy.
Also Gsam, shows the temperature of phone between 80°-90°F, where before it would be in the low to mid 70s. One time, it even got up to 104°F, funny thing is, it doesn't even feel that hot in my hand.
Hopefully, we can find out what's causing this because I really liked the battery life on this phone. Even when people complained about the battery life being worse on 5.0.2, I was pretty happy with it. All my previous phones can't compare to the g2. Now I feel like upgrading though lol.
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How is dorimanx kernel bad? How many user downloads he has,lots and lots then are we thousands of user wrong using a bad kernel, come on . Maybe it didnt work for you. But out of those thousands of users cant be wrong. If it was that bad no one would download. Just saying , you should just say it didnt work for you.
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When I tried the version that was out a month or two ago it wasn't nearly as smooth as stock, even after conservatively messing with the kernel app settings. The worst was that it also cut out tethering and my flashlight when the screen shut off. Maybe the recent updates have fixed some of the issues, but I doubt it. Could be that he doesn't have access to the sprint variant which I have...
Either way, just because 'thousands' of people use it doesn't necessarily mean that it's good - 99.9% of those users have no idea how to code or how a kernel is written. Their knowledge goes as far as following picture guides online - which a 5 years old could do. Just look at the most recent change log - those 'fixes' were to glaringly huge problems that shouldn't have been made in the first place and people were blissfully using it the whole time. Think about how many thousands of other bugs their must be. Not to mention hacking up code made by professionals at huge companies could lead to many other problems. Obliviously the stock kernel has bugs as well, but it works and is fast and stable so I see no need for using a hacked together kernel made by one amateur that doesn't even have my version of the phone to test it on. I wanted it to be good - which Is why I went to the trouble of installing it, but it's definitely NOT.
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Can you tell us what app have you uninstalled and disable ?
What have you debloat ?
Thank you very much
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I uninstalled ALL of the stock apps that can be uninstalled. The ones I disabled are aosp keyboard, app updates, browser, calendar, cloud print, favorite contact widget, google play books, games, movies & tv, newstand, google+, lg voice command speech pack, music, music(the widget - it always runs in the background even without being on the homescreen), notebook, polaris viewer, quicktranslator, swype, talkback, voice command. I would have liked to disable a few more but I'm not rooted so I couldn't.
I use nearly all of the google products like chrome,gmail, calendar, docs, keep, music, photos, news and weather,translate,etc...so having the stock lg ones enabled was redundant. I also only have the bare minimum of installed apps that I need. Nearly all of them are made my major corporations i.e Chase, BofA, ebay, paypal, freedompop, microsoft, swiftkey etc. I have NO games or any small apps that need a ton of permissions. The only small apps are feedly, print hammermill, privacy flashlight(240kb, no ads, no permissions) and bubble level(180kb, no ads, no permissions).
I also go through every settings in every app to make sure it's what I want. And I restart my phone every time I take it off the charger. IMO having a clean and no frills system that is set correctly is the key to performance and battery life.
I just want want to clarify that I average 4-5hrs per 1% in standby since it doesn't seem to hold as well as it gets closer to 0%.
theres this app that have lots of info on battery..
thx guys for adding your experience
i hoped moded kernels would've reduced that amount as they should have necessary drivers for wifi which was somehow got messed up but from your reply i guess i've to look somewhere else
idk how to put this, well this isn't a solution at all i actually didn't start working on it yet just thought to share what i found so far !!
so it's just a reference for any one whose luck was bad enough to have a wakelock like that !
1st of all in most cases neither the device nor it's battery are at fault *you need to understand that*
faulty battery doesn't show up kernel related wakelocks instead they drain without a reason so i hope ppl stop accusing battery in every battery drain thread!
2nd after understanding that you'll have to deal with the environment your phone is used in
to put it simple it's your router and all devices in your current network !! (idk though why not all devices get affected by that or why it just started now, tough luck yea)
those threads may help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31975007&postcount=2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/help/getting-rid-wlanrxwake-wakelocks-t2519294
what i'll try to do is add an old access point to my router and connect my phone to it as i don't have a replacement router right now!!
i'll let you know if things were improved !
hey guys
i thought to share what i did so far and before i go on there is a bad news and a good news !!
i would start with the bad news first !
-no rom could solve this issue so you don't really need to format everything and start from scratch especially if you didn't mess around too much and you found it started suddenly like here, i've tried couple of roms including latest CM13 build it wasn't that bad but it didn't solve the drain that much either !!
-now some ppl may see this bad and some may don't care (which means good!!) google services are the ones responsible for this drain
well man you didn't come up with anything new and i see you've got a problem getting straight to the point besides you talk too much
i'm sorry
now you have to sacrifice your google services background sync including "GCM" if you are using any services similar to pushbullet or notification mirroring you'd understand why it's important
anyway if you are good with that you may install and yea it works with latest google play services
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.playfulgeeks.gservicefix
and do as instructions (and believe it'll work if you did steps right)
if you prefer manual way then you'll need "app ops xposed module" and deactivate every "wake up" permission from google services
this guide may help but remember we don't have tools natively in our roms so don't bother downloading "shortcut maker" and go through your settings app to find "privacy guard" or "app ops" we don't have those natively like them
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/general/guide-google-play-services-battery-t2832525
i'll share some ss from stock battery stats
i'm sorry for my long post and i hope it'll help someone with same issue
idk if it solved issue completely but things are stabilized a lot now and i just lost 1% over night not 20% or 30% like before !!
and i'm using lollipop now so i guess it's not that bad for what i heard about bad lollipop battery since it's my first time trying it !!
and btw real SOT should be +40 mins so the real SOT is 2H-47M cuz i restarted my phone to apply that fix and for some reason battery stats doesn't stick between reboots !!
if anyone interested in trying that rom it's for D800 only btw and thx to @Swetnes for his work rom feels pretty stable and solid :good:
link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-g2/development/rom-t3152368/
good luck everyone