So I am trying to walk my sister through updating her radio and rom. I was trying to figure out the easiest and safest way for her to it all and this is what I have come up with.
If I get her to do a HSPL3 successfully. Then I have her run the official T-Mobile update from T-Mobile website. Then update once again with a custom rom like from Energy.
Doing this in this order will result in her having a phone with HSPL3, newest official radio, and a more stable custom rom? correct?
I was most concerned with her accidentally updating the radio improperly and I figured that if she used the official rom update it would update the radio all in one step safely? From what I have read this won't mess up her HSPL3.
Thanks for any input.
yea thats all correct, , if slightly long winded.
Thanks for the confirmation. Sorry about the wordiness of it all ... just wanted to make sure not to miss anything.
Thanks again!
NickPDX said:
Thanks for the confirmation. Sorry about the wordiness of it all ... just wanted to make sure not to miss anything.
Thanks again!
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hehe, i meant the process being long winded (with teh extra rom flash instead of just flashign radio, but i understand why)
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Right i decided to get rid of the "in the future" 1.65 radio and well downloaded the radio 1.59.44.04 used the same romupdateutility.exe as with the 3LIT3 Rom and well it has hard reset my device. So now i have to set it up again but for future use what should i have used. Would it have the the custom RUU that i have seen around here.
Thanks for the help and maybe in the future i wont make stupid and time wasting mistakes! lol
i've made good experience with flashing roms and radios with sd card only. so there is no need for any RUUs at all... if you haven't done it already, you'll find the howto in the wiki...
so flashing only radio never changed the rom... are you sure it was really only radio?
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Right i decided to get rid of the "in the future" 1.65 radio and well downloaded the radio 1.59.44.04 used the same romupdateutility.exe as with the 3LIT3 Rom and well it has hard reset my device. So now i have to set it up again but for future use what should i have used. Would it have the the custom RUU that i have seen around here.
Thanks for the help and maybe in the future i wont make stupid and time wasting mistakes! lol
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Welcome to the club Chris - have done the same thing myself!
There is another RUU that was created by udK that only flashes the radio. If you have a bit of a search you should be able to find it.
Hey thanks for that i knew there must be a way and had seen that floating around but it only hit me that it may reset when it was rebooting which was a little too late really...
Next time all will go smoothly
Hi guys,
I have got my G2 Touch (Hero) sat at home waiting for me and cannot wait to get back and play with it.
I was hoping you guys could help me with the following questions though:
1. How do I know if I should bother rooting it or not? If I root at a later date will I lose all of my other stuff on the phone?
2. How do I know if I have Donut on my phone and if I don't, should I root first or update to donut first?
3. Is there a list of "mush have apps" on the forum... I've spent all day reading articles on "must haves" but was hoping for "real life" feedback from you guys on what I must get.
Thanks
G
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Hi guys,
I have got my G2 Touch (Hero) sat at home waiting for me and cannot wait to get back and play with it.
I was hoping you guys could help me with the following questions though:
1. How do I know if I should bother rooting it or not? If I root at a later date will I lose all of my other stuff on the phone?
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be prepared to wipe everything, as this is the solution for 95% of all problems (people not wiping before upgrade). don't you dare to ask for help before you wiped and reflashed afaik you can get root access without wiping, but i am pretty sure you are going to want a custom rom like modacos rom, and this almost inevitably means you have to wipe.
in q&a there is a thread for what you can do with root. it is not really complete, another try is to search for "root" in the market. most applications that need root access are found by this, so you can see what you could do if you where rooted.
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2. How do I know if I have Donut on my phone and if I don't, should I root first or update to donut first?
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easy one. there is no donut rom for hero (except for a custom one here on the forum, which does not _really_ work), so you don't have it on your phone. imho: don't bother updating to donut rom, unless you know what you are doing.
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3. Is there a list of "mush have apps" on the forum... I've spent all day reading articles on "must haves" but was hoping for "real life" feedback from you guys on what I must get.
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what about the thread called "must have apps on your Hero" here in the themes&applications section? i don't think it will get any better than that... you need to do the reading yourself, you won't find a post that says "here is a zip with the ten apps you need to be happy" (well maybe you will find it, but i doubt that actually will be happy with it).
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you're welcome.
Hi kendong2, thanks for the response...
I have read about this update on tmobile's website...
http://support.t-mobile.co.uk/help-and-support/index?page=home&cat=SOFTWAREDOWNLOADS&tab=2
If this isn't the Donut update, is it just an updated version of the original rom?
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If this isn't the Donut update, is it just an updated version of the original rom?
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It isn't Donut - it is just the T-Mobile version of the 2.73 ROM. Since your phone is very new, it probably already has it anyway, but to check go to Menu-> Settings -> About Phone, and check the build number. If it starts 2.73, you've already got the updated ROM.
If you get a 1.xx build number, my advice would be *not* to install the T-Mobile update as it will make it much harder for you to move to a custom ROM at a later date. You should download and install a generic 2.73 that has been pre-rooted.
Regards,
Dave
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You should download and install a generic 2.73 that has been pre-rooted.
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or start with modaco right away
Hi again guys...
Checked my Touch last night and it is on 1.76
I'm a bit weary about rooting and installing generic / custom roms for fear of voiding the warranty and then owning a £500 brick...
Will updating to 2.73 from tmobile really make it harder to move to a custom rom later....?
gk141054 said:
Will updating to 2.73 from tmobile really make it harder to move to a custom rom later....?
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Put it this way -if you upgrade to 2.73 via the T-Mobile RUU, in order to move to a custom ROM in future you will have to "downgrade" to a generic HTC 2.73 ROM via a Goldcard (see here) which is much more complicated when you've already got a ROM on your phone which is "exploitable".
The other thing you should bear in mind is that when Android 2.0 is released for the Hero, it will likely first come out as a ROM for unbranded phones with operator branded versions following some time later. This is what happened when 2.73 was released, and T-Mobile in particular was quite tardy in getting its own version out.
So, if you want to go to Android 2.0 sooner rather than later, you should look at a non-T-Mobile version of 2.73 now.
Regards,
Dave
Thanks very much for the advice guys, going to do as you suggested.
Unfortunately I have more questions though:
1. to load the generic 2.73 I just "oneclickroot" (found the video on youtube to follow) and then download the theme and rename it "update.zip" put this onto your memory card, turn off your phone then press and hold the "home" button while pressing the power button.... keep the "home" button down until you get to the recovery screen then select flash the update.zip as you would a rom. Is that right or have I missed anything?
2. Having a Tmobile G2 Touch rather than a Hero won't make any difference to the rom that I choose will it?
3. Will putting a new rom on lose my contacts or widgets / scenes etc?
4. Can you recommend a nice rom to go for, like what you guys are using? Want it to look nice, be stable but fast
Cheers again for the help guys.
Answers!
1. Can't help here as I didn't use the one-click method.
2. No.
3. Yes. However, if you've synced your contacts to Google, you will get them back again once you set the phone up again.
4. Modaco - nuff said.
Regards,
Dave
For a newbie I can recommend 'the unlockr'-Google it- they have easy to follow vids for rooting and flashing roms for the hero. It's really easy and you won't brick your phone if you have half a brain cell.
I see the Radio being mentioned often and wonder if that is something necessary to update.
I have rooted my phone, installed a clockwork recover (I think that is it) and installed the Calkulin ROM. Should I be installing a radio update? Can I do it after a ROM is installed via the install .zip from SD card?
Thanks.
Yes, you should always update your radio. It usually provides better service and other features like that.
Here is some info on flashing radios.
Thanks,
I think I'll wait for the new radio 2.05.00.06.10 to be approved by the powers that be.
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Thanks,
I think I'll wait for the new radio 2.05.00.06.10 to be approved by the powers that be.
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Don't do anything yet. That's the golden rule for those of us with rooted phones.
Also, I would have benefitted from a wiki of definitions as well.
any luck finding a wiki for newbies. I am slowly figuring out bits a pieces. But I am still confused about the disconnect between the kernel and the ROM. And recovery managers and updaters. Like what does the Fresh updater do. Update the ROM? Pieces of the ROM?
Hello everybody,
I've my DHD since a few hours and would like to flash another ROM. I've to root it. No problem - enough guides can be found But is it enough to flash the original provider ROM to became "warranty compliant" again?
lg,
Funny
FunnyDingo said:
Hello everybody,
I've my DHD since a few hours and would like to flash another ROM. I've to root it. No problem - enough guides can be found But is it enough to flash the original provider ROM to became "warranty compliant" again?
lg,
Funny
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Technically no, if you have fiddled with the bootloader or uninstalled the original ROM you will have voided your warranty even if you put it back as was.
Practically, yes, no-one is gonna be able to tell what you've been up to if it's back to stock
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Technically no, if you have fiddled with the bootloader or uninstalled the original ROM you will have voided your warranty even if you put it back as was.
Practically, yes, no-one is gonna be able to tell what you've been up to if it's back to stock
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how can I reinstall the original ROM?
Flash one of the original RUU files.
Let me use this tread. I am new in DesireHD world , so i must learn and ask stuppid questions
Let's say that my desireHD is rooted and upgrade it with custom rom. If I want, I just DL original RUU and flash it and desire becomes as it was before root procedure?
TNX
Sorry to bring this back up guys but I could do with knowing this too.
I've had my DHD for about 3 months now, after the 1st month the proximity sensor broke so I had to send it back under warranty. I do want to flash it but I just want to make sure I can flash it back to stock without them knowing that I had rooted it?
If you flash an official "signed" HTC RUU then as far as HTC know its still under warranty.
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If you flash an official "signed" HTC RUU then as far as HTC know its still under warranty.
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Sorry for another noob question but is there a list where these official ROMs are available to download?
Look in the Dev section. One if the stickied posts "Desire HD files", has all the RUU's hosted. Make sure you flash the correct one.
How would I go about getting a signed RUU then? Sorry for these stupid sounding questions, I'm quite new to this)
but don't forget if you do radio s-off and super cid the stay on even after you install a ruu. someone is working on a tool to revert this process doh, i could be wrong on this, but that what i've read.
I'm pretty sure flashing an official HTC RUU will restore S-ON.
To flash a RUU ensure you have all the correct HTC drivers. Download & install HTC Sync for this.
Simply connect your DHD to your computer and run the RUU from your computer, just follow the prompts.
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but don't forget if you do radio s-off and super cid the stay on even after you install a ruu. someone is working on a tool to revert this process doh, i could be wrong on this, but that what i've read.
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Yes that's right, although hboot s-off will be reverted by flashing ruu
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One if the stickied posts "Desire HD files", has all the RUU's hosted. Make sure you flash the correct one.
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Yes, thanks, I think I've found the right one. I am with T-Mobile UK though there is none of the carrier's own branding so I think from the info on the phone that it must be "RUU_Ace_HTC_WWE_1.32.405.6_Radio_12.28b.60.140e_26.03.02.26_M_release_155891_signed". The only difference is the radio on the device has a "U" after the "e" and I cannot find the release number anywhere in the sofware info .
Sorry I don't know what versioning system HTC use with regard to ROMs & Radios. If your DHD came stock and unbranded to a particular carrier then you are correct with the WWE (World Wide English).
Could this stock rom be backed up with rom manager, then flashed back if need be? (BTW Andy, nice sig )
Hi, so I've been reading the forums for a while, trying to figure out how to root my DHD correctly, as well as installing a custom ROM..
I have Software Number 1.37.771.3
I assume this does not need to be downgraded, but just want assurance. Alll the downgrades need to be from 1.72.XXX.X
What is the most popular custom ROM to install?
What does flashing new radios do? And are they necessary?
What does S-Off do?
How will I be able to install my stock ROM back once I install a custom rom?
I know some of these question can be found by searching, but some parts are not clear to me.
Thanks.
Hiya, 1.37 does not need to be downgraded so you CAN root that.
The most popular roms I believe are either ARHD or rcmix hd (but it is down to personal preference, some roms give you things some others don't/can't)
Once you install a custom rom, sometimes you need to install a different radio to get better battery life, gps signal etc etc.
Radio s-off gives you the ability to install a custom Rom on Ur dhd, I'm not sure if its true but I think it is a MUST if you wanna install a Rom.
Eng s-off is needed to flash a radio, but you only have to have eng s-off if you wanna flash a radio.
You can just radio s-off to install a custom Rom and not have to have eng s-off to install a radio.
You can get back to stock by flashing the branded/unbranded ruu through your computer (its easier that way, I had trouble doing it through SD card last night,just run the exe. File through computer and follow the commands) , it will get rid of custom Rom, eng s-off, custom recovery and root all in one go, so all you need to do after is temp root and radio s-on, and you should be back to stock. Or you can do a nandroid backup (someone jump in cos not too clear on this point either)
If anyone wants to jump in and say if I got it wrong please do, but that's what I done last night.
Is your handset branded by any chance mate?
Cos what I done last night was flash the WWE unbranded Rom and now I'm unbranded, cos I used to be branded by vodafone, now all the vodafone crap and stuff has gone from mine.
Oh also you might wanna check before you start whether u can get your hands on a branded Rom cos if you have trouble with handset and need to send it back then your gonna wanna get it completely back to normal.
Anyway hope this helped and if you need anything there's lots of people on here that will help you as best they can.
Good luck ;-)
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The most popular ROM is probably either LeeDroid HD, Android Revolution HD or CyanogenMod
Flashing a different radio is not usually required but can give you better performance.
S-off lets you install custom ROMs of your DHD, you cant flash a radio and Im pretty sure you cant flash a ROM without S-off.
The stock ROM (version 1.32.405.6) can be downloaded from CyanogenMods downloads page. Link
This might be useful too. Link
Also HTC Ace was the codename for the Desire HD so if you see HTC Ace anywhere its the right phone.
ARHD 3.5 has just been released.
This was exactly the thread I was looking for, I've been reading these forums for the last week trying to get my head around all the information. Im guessing once you understand all the procedures it starts coming a bit more naturally, doing my first flash tomorrow
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This was exactly the thread I was looking for, I've been reading these forums for the last week trying to get my head around all the information. Im guessing once you understand all the procedures it starts coming a bit more naturally, doing my first flash tomorrow
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Good luck mate, I did my first one last week, it was nerve wracking lol some people like me need a little more help and clarification from more knowledgeable members on here.
But we all in the same boat innit, just don't start too many threads on it cos you'll end up getting a warning like me, it was harsh but I'm gonna have to accept it looool anyways good luck and if u need any help just ask.
And make sure you follow all the steps to the point, cos you could end up with some unrectifiable problems ;-)
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dazza_84 said:
You can get back to stock by flashing the branded/unbranded ruu through your computer (its easier that way, I had trouble doing it through SD card last night,just run the exe. File through computer and follow the commands) , it will get rid of custom Rom, eng s-off, custom recovery and root all in one go, so all you need to do after is temp root and radio s-on, and you should be back to stock. Or you can do a nandroid backup (someone jump in cos not too clear on this point either)
If anyone wants to jump in and say if I got it wrong please do, but that's what I done last night.
Is your handset branded by any chance mate?
Cos what I done last night was flash the WWE unbranded Rom and now I'm unbranded, cos I used to be branded by vodafone, now all the vodafone crap and stuff has gone from mine.
Oh also you might wanna check before you start whether u can get your hands on a branded Rom cos if you have trouble with handset and need to send it back then your gonna wanna get it completely back to normal.
Anyway hope this helped and if you need anything there's lots of people on here that will help you as best they can.
Good luck ;-)
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hi, thanks for the reply, what you said has helped
yeah, my phone is branded to three. will i be able to use a stock rom given by the person on post 3? or will i have to get a branded rom from three?
thanks
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hi, thanks for the reply, what you said has helped
yeah, my phone is branded to three. will i be able to use a stock rom given by the person on post 3? or will i have to get a branded rom from three?
thanks
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It depends what you wanna do, if you wanna unbrand your phone use the WWE ruu, if you wanna return Ur phone back to the way it was then use a official 3 branded Rom, and as you know if you want a particular custom Rom then just flash one of those.
I got my WWE ruu from xmoo's thread, it has a whole list of different ruu versions, so just pick the one you want but I suggest going for the 1.32 xx3 cos you can still root that version if you wanted to.
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