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How to get back the official rom of htc hero?

Hi guys, nob question, im using my hero with cooked rom right now, but now i want to make it back to official rom.
How can i do that?
thx

xufuchang said:
Hi guys, nob question, im using my hero with cooked rom right now, but now i want to make it back to official rom.
How can i do that?
thx
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Easy as pie,... Pick the rom you want from here,...
XDA's Official HTC Hero RUU ROM Links
... or here,...
Modaco's Stock ROMs + radios in update.zip format for GSM Hero
I have given link to the Modaco page as there are rooted stock ROMs there, could be useful.
.... Put onto SD, then apply update. I assume you know how to flash ROMs as you are using a custom one already,...
If not, check out [Guide] Newbie Guide to Install a Custom Rom [Updated 19/03]
If your still unsure, ask, we can try to help some more.
Peace.

ddotpatel said:
Easy as pie,... Pick the rom you want from here,...
XDA's Official HTC Hero RUU ROM Links
... or here,...
Modaco's Stock ROMs + radios in update.zip format for GSM Hero
I have given link to the Modaco page as there are rooted stock ROMs there, could be useful.
.... Put onto SD, then apply update. I assume you know how to flash ROMs as you are using a custom one already,...
If not, check out [Guide] Newbie Guide to Install a Custom Rom [Updated 19/03]
If your still unsure, ask, we can try to help some more.
Peace.
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the same way we flash the cooked rom right? and after that my hero will be back to official rom with no problem at all right? because when i flash my hero i forgot backup the original rom..

xufuchang said:
the same way we flash the cooked rom right? and after that my hero will be back to official rom with no problem at all right? because when i flash my hero i forgot backup the original rom..
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Yep, exactly the same, wont take long at all. I didn't bother creating a backup as I knew I could always get it from somewhere. Where would we be without XDA eh,.... Still using a Nokia I expect!!!

ddotpatel said:
Easy as pie,... Pick the rom you want from here,...
XDA's Official HTC Hero RUU ROM Links
... or here,...
Modaco's Stock ROMs + radios in update.zip format for GSM Hero
I have given link to the Modaco page as there are rooted stock ROMs there, could be useful.
.... Put onto SD, then apply update. I assume you know how to flash ROMs as you are using a custom one already,...
If not, check out [Guide] Newbie Guide to Install a Custom Rom [Updated 19/03]
If your still unsure, ask, we can try to help some more.
Peace.
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any other way to flash the official rom beside the way you show me before, actually i bought from 2nd hands, not me flash the hero. so maybe you can help me the easiest way...sorry to bother.

If you really want the easiest way, download and install the official RUU from HTCs website. However, this will make it harder for you to apply a custom ROM in the future.
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
If you really want the easiest way, download and install the official RUU from HTCs website. However, this will make it harder for you to apply a custom ROM in the future.
Regards,
Dave
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will show me how to install the official rom?

xufuchang said:
will show me how to install the official rom?
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If that's really what you want:
Make sure you have the usb drivers installed on your PC. Easiest way is probably to install HTC Sync, following HTC's instructions, assuming you don't have it set up already. Then just connect your phone to your PC via USB, download the RUU which will be an executable & double click on it. Can't get much simpler than that

cauli said:
If that's really what you want:
Make sure you have the usb drivers installed on your PC. Easiest way is probably to install HTC Sync, following HTC's instructions, assuming you don't have it set up already. Then just connect your phone to your PC via USB, download the RUU which will be an executable & double click on it. Can't get much simpler than that
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ok thx so much...

Ok, I tried installing this from the "Fresh" ROM, and it's giving me an error code. I need to get this Sprint Hero back to stock.

moviemogul said:
Ok, I tried installing this from the "Fresh" ROM, and it's giving me an error code. I need to get this Sprint Hero back to stock.
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This thread is not for the SPRINT HERO,.... This is for the GSM HTC HERO,.... You could seriously damage your phone using these instructions.
You need to start in the CDMA section.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=519

Actually, it depends on what he is trying to do! If he's trying to install the RUU (from this thread) for the Sprint Hero, it should be fine.
Regards,
Dave

Noob questions.

Hi, so I've been reading the forums for a while, trying to figure out how to root my DHD correctly, as well as installing a custom ROM..
I have Software Number 1.37.771.3
I assume this does not need to be downgraded, but just want assurance. Alll the downgrades need to be from 1.72.XXX.X
What is the most popular custom ROM to install?
What does flashing new radios do? And are they necessary?
What does S-Off do?
How will I be able to install my stock ROM back once I install a custom rom?
I know some of these question can be found by searching, but some parts are not clear to me.
Thanks.

Hiya, 1.37 does not need to be downgraded so you CAN root that.
The most popular roms I believe are either ARHD or rcmix hd (but it is down to personal preference, some roms give you things some others don't/can't)
Once you install a custom rom, sometimes you need to install a different radio to get better battery life, gps signal etc etc.
Radio s-off gives you the ability to install a custom Rom on Ur dhd, I'm not sure if its true but I think it is a MUST if you wanna install a Rom.
Eng s-off is needed to flash a radio, but you only have to have eng s-off if you wanna flash a radio.
You can just radio s-off to install a custom Rom and not have to have eng s-off to install a radio.
You can get back to stock by flashing the branded/unbranded ruu through your computer (its easier that way, I had trouble doing it through SD card last night,just run the exe. File through computer and follow the commands) , it will get rid of custom Rom, eng s-off, custom recovery and root all in one go, so all you need to do after is temp root and radio s-on, and you should be back to stock. Or you can do a nandroid backup (someone jump in cos not too clear on this point either)
If anyone wants to jump in and say if I got it wrong please do, but that's what I done last night.
Is your handset branded by any chance mate?
Cos what I done last night was flash the WWE unbranded Rom and now I'm unbranded, cos I used to be branded by vodafone, now all the vodafone crap and stuff has gone from mine.
Oh also you might wanna check before you start whether u can get your hands on a branded Rom cos if you have trouble with handset and need to send it back then your gonna wanna get it completely back to normal.
Anyway hope this helped and if you need anything there's lots of people on here that will help you as best they can.
Good luck ;-)
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

The most popular ROM is probably either LeeDroid HD, Android Revolution HD or CyanogenMod
Flashing a different radio is not usually required but can give you better performance.
S-off lets you install custom ROMs of your DHD, you cant flash a radio and Im pretty sure you cant flash a ROM without S-off.
The stock ROM (version 1.32.405.6) can be downloaded from CyanogenMods downloads page. Link
This might be useful too. Link
Also HTC Ace was the codename for the Desire HD so if you see HTC Ace anywhere its the right phone.

ARHD 3.5 has just been released.

This was exactly the thread I was looking for, I've been reading these forums for the last week trying to get my head around all the information. Im guessing once you understand all the procedures it starts coming a bit more naturally, doing my first flash tomorrow

Rawrpaw said:
This was exactly the thread I was looking for, I've been reading these forums for the last week trying to get my head around all the information. Im guessing once you understand all the procedures it starts coming a bit more naturally, doing my first flash tomorrow
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Good luck mate, I did my first one last week, it was nerve wracking lol some people like me need a little more help and clarification from more knowledgeable members on here.
But we all in the same boat innit, just don't start too many threads on it cos you'll end up getting a warning like me, it was harsh but I'm gonna have to accept it looool anyways good luck and if u need any help just ask.
And make sure you follow all the steps to the point, cos you could end up with some unrectifiable problems ;-)
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

dazza_84 said:
You can get back to stock by flashing the branded/unbranded ruu through your computer (its easier that way, I had trouble doing it through SD card last night,just run the exe. File through computer and follow the commands) , it will get rid of custom Rom, eng s-off, custom recovery and root all in one go, so all you need to do after is temp root and radio s-on, and you should be back to stock. Or you can do a nandroid backup (someone jump in cos not too clear on this point either)
If anyone wants to jump in and say if I got it wrong please do, but that's what I done last night.
Is your handset branded by any chance mate?
Cos what I done last night was flash the WWE unbranded Rom and now I'm unbranded, cos I used to be branded by vodafone, now all the vodafone crap and stuff has gone from mine.
Oh also you might wanna check before you start whether u can get your hands on a branded Rom cos if you have trouble with handset and need to send it back then your gonna wanna get it completely back to normal.
Anyway hope this helped and if you need anything there's lots of people on here that will help you as best they can.
Good luck ;-)
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
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hi, thanks for the reply, what you said has helped
yeah, my phone is branded to three. will i be able to use a stock rom given by the person on post 3? or will i have to get a branded rom from three?
thanks

roshh said:
hi, thanks for the reply, what you said has helped
yeah, my phone is branded to three. will i be able to use a stock rom given by the person on post 3? or will i have to get a branded rom from three?
thanks
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It depends what you wanna do, if you wanna unbrand your phone use the WWE ruu, if you wanna return Ur phone back to the way it was then use a official 3 branded Rom, and as you know if you want a particular custom Rom then just flash one of those.
I got my WWE ruu from xmoo's thread, it has a whole list of different ruu versions, so just pick the one you want but I suggest going for the 1.32 xx3 cos you can still root that version if you wanted to.
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Back to Stock While preserving ENG-S.OFF

Hi lads im on Android Revolution HD on my DESIRE HD, and i need to go back to stock while preserving my root and s-off and super cid.
if anyone knows how please enlighten me
thanks in advance lads

thedan55 said:
Hi lads im on Android Revolution HD on my DESIRE HD, and i need to go back to stock while preserving my root and s-off and super cid.
if anyone knows how please enlighten me
thanks in advance lads
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Flash a 1.32 RUU, then root and do s-off. Simple as that.

As Hawk said. You won't be able to actually preserve it, but have to root it again, as you will lose root by flashing stock.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

what do you mean by "back to stock", if you wanna preserve "everything" it's not really stock!
but, i guess you could restore your nandroid backup... or do what guys above said so!

I assume he wants stock RUU ROM, no custom ROM or kernel, .... but with root intact.
He will lose the root by flashing stock RUU.
So just root again and not flash any custom kernels or custom ROM.
I don't know why, up to him, but he just asked the question, and we provided the answer.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

UpInTheAir said:
I assume he wants stock RUU ROM, no custom ROM or kernel, .... but with root intact.
He will lose the root by flashing stock RUU.
So just root again and not flash any custom kernels or custom ROM.
I don't know why, up to him, but he just asked the question, and we provided the answer.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
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guys i must say thank you from the depths of my stupid heart!!!
clarification, im going back to stock as im selling it
since ive changed the radio aswell, do i just flash stock RUU, and that will put the original radio on too or do i have to flash the original radio myself??
also when i flash the RUU stock with it be unlocked?
thank you so much for the help
EDIT: also can someone point me to the files i need, spent a few hours searching the site cant seem to find anything.
EDIT 2: ok found where i can download the RUU from just dont know which one....
RUU_Ace_HTC_WWE_1.32.405.6_Radio_12.28b.60.140e_26.03.02.26_M_release_155891_signed.exe
RUU_Ace_Vodafone_UK_1.32.405.3_Radio_12.28b.60.140 e_26.03.02.15_M3_release_155032_signed.exe
i got this phone on vodafone but want it to be unlocked so i assume i should use the WWE one right?

thedan55 said:
guys i must say thank you from the depths of my stupid heart!!!
clarification, im going back to stock as im selling it
since ive changed the radio aswell, do i just flash stock RUU, and that will put the original radio on too or do i have to flash the original radio myself??
also when i flash the RUU stock with it be unlocked?
thank you so much for the help
EDIT: also can someone point me to the files i need, spent a few hours searching the site cant seem to find anything.
EDIT 2: ok found where i can download the RUU from just dont know which one....
RUU_Ace_HTC_WWE_1.32.405.6_Radio_12.28b.60.140e_26.03.02.26_M_release_155891_signed.exe
RUU_Ace_Vodafone_UK_1.32.405.3_Radio_12.28b.60.140 e_26.03.02.15_M3_release_155032_signed.exe
i got this phone on vodafone but want it to be unlocked so i assume i should use the WWE one right?
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If you are selling it I would guess IMPO, it is better unlocked anyway.
And the same goes for the ROM, I would advise the Ace_HTC_WWE, rather then the _Vodafone one, which proberly has a full of their blow-wear, as you must know what it was like when you purchased it.
But like anything else, the choice is your.
Take Care
TheQuest

I'm TheQuest said:
If you are selling it I would guess IMPO, it is better unlocked anyway.
And the same goes for the ROM, I would advise the Ace_HTC_WWE, rather then the _Vodafone one, which proberly has a full of their blow-wear, as you must know what it was like when you purchased it.
But like anything else, the choice is your.
Take Care
TheQuest
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yes definatly im going to make sure it has super cid, so yeah ill beusing the WWE version, thanks for your help
very very very much appreciated
EDIT: so i dont need to worry about upgrading the radio? or downgrading?

Follow part of this downgrade thread. You need to DL the PD98IMG.zip file.
As you already have root, skip the adb temp root part, and follow this copied directly from the above guide;
•Put PD98IMG.zip to your SD card. Do not put the file into a folder...... Do not extract
•Reboot while holding volume down, it will go to the bootloader
•Follow the instructions (start the update)
•Done. You can now proceed with old S-OFF methods, and remove the PD98IMG.zip from your SD. I recommend Radio S-OFF for new users.
Then,
Follow this guide for temp/permroot with [URL="http://android.modaco.com/content/software/320350/19-nov-r14-visionary-one-click-root/"]visionary and S-off[/URL] using
Easy Radio Tool DL Link at end of 2nd post
Then,
Follow this guide for ENG S-off using the
Easy S-off tool DL link at bottom of page
Hope this helps, just make sure you read every in full at least twice.

UpInTheAir said:
Follow part of this downgrade thread. You need to DL the PD98IMG.zip file.
As you already have root, skip the adb temp root part, and follow this copied directly from the above guide;
•Put PD98IMG.zip to your SD card. Do not put the file into a folder...... Do not extract
•Reboot while holding volume down, it will go to the bootloader
•Follow the instructions (start the update)
•Done. You can now proceed with old S-OFF methods, and remove the PD98IMG.zip from your SD. I recommend Radio S-OFF for new users.
Then,
Follow this guide for temp/permroot with [URL="http://android.modaco.com/content/software/320350/19-nov-r14-visionary-one-click-root/"]visionary and S-off[/URL] using
Easy Radio Tool DL Link at end of 2nd post
Then,
Follow this guide for ENG S-off using the
Easy S-off tool DL link at bottom of page
Hope this helps, just make sure you read every in full at least twice.
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umm not sure if you understand where i am, im on a custom rom already mate, im going back to stock, i dont need to downgrade

Well when you follow Upintheair's instructions, you get a stock ROM, and it is not really a downgrade because you do not have to use the command line commands. You do not have to run the radio s-off tool, though. Just run ENG S-OFF tool.
The other way is to flash Raidroid Stockify series ROM, it is a rooted stock ROM that you can flash in clockworkmod.

Branded t-mobile desire hd

Helllo,
I have a desire hd on software version 1.84.110.3 on 2.2.1 branded on t-mobile. I basically want to debrand the phone and install the stock unbranded software to get rid of the t-mobile apps and flash screen, and get software updates quicker. If possible I would like to keep my phone in a stable state so if anything did happen to the phone in the future I can send it back for repair. Is this possible if so how would i go about it? Thanks in advance.

dips44 said:
Helllo,
I have a desire hd on software version 1.84.110.3 on 2.2.1 branded on t-mobile. I basically want to debrand the phone and install the stock unbranded software to get rid of the t-mobile apps and flash screen, and get software updates quicker. If possible I would like to keep my phone in a stable state so if anything did happen to the phone in the future I can send it back for repair. Is this possible if so how would i go about it? Thanks in advance.
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1) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857444
2) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=824357&highlight=stock+rom
3) You'd have to flash back to a T-Mobile ROM to send it back for repairs. I'm sure if you do a site search here or a Google you can find one - but worry about that later. It exists. I've seen them.

Thanks for the quick reply, i have had a look at the guide but i dont see anything about a goldcard. I was understood it as if you have a branded phone you need to create a goldcard???? Please correct me if i am wrong

I think once you've SuperCID'd your phone you don't need a goldcard, as that just messed about with something to do with CIDs.

The T-Mobile RUU is on my site you can find it HERE

It's easy
dips44 said:
Thanks for the quick reply, i have had a look at the guide but i dont see anything about a goldcard. I was understood it as if you have a branded phone you need to create a goldcard???? Please correct me if i am wrong
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I got my T-Mobile HD Desire yesterday...and today I have LeeDroid Gingerbread running on it. I used the gold card method found here: http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/how-to-make-gold-card-for-htc-desire-hd/
It was simple. Just follow the steps exactly and you'll have no problems. I followed the links in that website to complete the process. My phone is rooted, radio s-off and eng s-off. There seemed to be so many different ways of doing it on this forum that I eventually gave up. That link, above, is on one of the "how to's" in here and references this site - I just found it clear, concise and easy to follow because it's aimed at noobs rather than tech-wizards. Good luck!

So i need to create a gold card and then perm root it with s-off? And i am fine doing all this with my software version?

dips44 said:
So i need to create a gold card and then perm root it with s-off? And i am fine doing all this with my software version?
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You have no option but to downgrade. You can't root the phone until you've done that, and you can't stick a custom ROM on unless the phone is rooted.
Like I said, there seemed to be so much conflicting information on here that I went elsewhere. That link, and the ones that follow, are well written in plain English.
These are the steps I followed:
1 - Make goldcard: http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/how-to-make-gold-card-for-htc-desire-hd/
2 - Permroot the phone: http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/how-to-permanently-root-htc-desire-hd-complete-guide/
3 - Radio S-Off and Eng S-Off: http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/how-to-gain-s-off-radio-and-engineering-on-htc-desire-hd/
4 - Flashed Optional FULL WIPE to EXT4 patch, then flashed radio 12.54.60.25_26.09.04.11_M2[/U], and then flashed the ROM all from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056727
I followed Lee's instructions to the letter and had no problems.

Dips44,
I am thinking of doing the same. I'd be interested to hear about your experience and any recommendations.
Cheers,
smacky_t

Smacky_t
I dont think i will be doing it just yet as there is just to many guides out there and confusion. I mean just on this thread somesay go for it others say downgrade, need a goldcard, goldcard not needed. Let me know if you do try

Just to clarify,
If your T-Mobile branded you WILL need a goldcard. If your software version is greater than 1.3x.xxx.x you WILL need to downgrade to root. The goldcard is needed to downgrade.
Where else are you confused? I am more than happy to help.

Ok so let me get this straight I will need to follow the follow steps
I will need to create a goldcard following this guide
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/...htc-desire-hd/
I then need to downgrade...
How do I do that?
Once I have downgraded I need to perm root following this guide
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/...omplete-guide/
I then need to s-off using this guide
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/...htc-desire-hd/
Do I need e-off? What is this? Also how do I then install an official unbranded gingerbread rom?
Thanks

Where to start. Follow this guide.
How to downgrade to 1.32.405.6 WWE
You want to follow Section's 1 & 2a

Also i have read about ruu...can i just flash my phone with a ruu?

Once you have followed that guide, simply follow this one.
One click ENG S-OFF
Then this one,
One click Radio S-OFF tool
Simply put this is the process you need to follow.
1). Create Goldcard
2). Downgrade to 1.32
3). Root using Visionary+
4). Remove device security & SIM unlock
5). Enjoy

Great thanks for that just one more question once i have done all that how can i flash an offical gingerbread rom?

dips44 said:
Also i have read about ruu...can i just flash my phone with a ruu?
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A RUU (ROM Update Utility) allows you to flash a HTC ROM. Yes you can flash a RUU, but not to complete the process set out above.

dips44 said:
Great thanks for that just one more question once i have done all that how can i flash an offical gingerbread rom?
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Once you have followed all the above guides, your handset will be ready to flash anything.
Download ROM Manager from the Market, and flash ClockworkMod Recovery from there. Any 3.x.x.x recovery is sufficient.
Now donwload this ROM - seraphic_gb_rooted_0-1.zip
From this thread - HERE - 1st Post
This ROM is the exact HTC Gingerbread update but with root access added. Nothing else and nothing taken away.

andyharney said:
A RUU (ROM Update Utility) allows you to flash a HTC ROM. Yes you can flash a RUU, but not to complete the process set out above.
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Well this maybe a better root for me as i dont really need root access. I just want to debrand and install gingerbread....that possible? or should i follow the guide?

Ok, if that is the case, simply downgrade to 1.32.405.6 then run the latest Gingergread RUU.

[Q] Touch Problem / software update

hi.
I have htc legend with stock rom and i didnt root it.
the touch has got problem. I checked it in forum and i found its software problem.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877976
it is amo led also.
so I wanted to know which rom is compatible with it and
how to flash the official ruu rom on it?
thanks in advance

pejman999 said:
hi.
I have htc legend with stock rom and i didnt root it.
the touch has got problem. I checked it in forum and i found its software problem.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877976
it is amo led also.
so I wanted to know which rom is compatible with it and
how to flash the official ruu rom on it?
thanks in advance
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all the rom's you find under "legend development" are made for htc legend so will work on your legend
what is your real question here?
-how to flash a official ruu? or how to flash a rooted one from this forum?

Hitmax117 said:
all the rom's you find under "legend development" are made for htc legend so will work on your legend
what is your real question here?
-how to flash a official ruu? or how to flash a rooted one from this forum?
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i have htc desire also. once i made it lcd-brick. because my desire was lcd and official ruu which i wanted to install didnt support lcd. thats why i asked this question here.
anyway , if all rom under legend development working for my legend, then my question is how to flash a n official ruu?
thanks

pejman999 said:
i have htc desire also. once i made it lcd-brick. because my desire was lcd and official ruu which i wanted to install didnt support lcd. thats why i asked this question here.
anyway , if all rom under legend development working for my legend, then my question is how to flash a n official ruu?
thanks
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to flash an official ruu; you create a goldcard (you can google for tutorial) and download an ruu (i prefer shipped roms, google that)

Hitmax117 said:
to flash an official ruu; you create a goldcard (you can google for tutorial) and download an ruu (i prefer shipped roms, google that)
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Thank you Hitmax117. really really I appreciate you.
just I want to be sure .
it means which ever ruu rom is here for htc legend, with this method i can flash it on device.
1- Its not related to it, the legend is lcd or led?
2- its not related to it, its rooted or not rooted?
again thanks.

pejman999 said:
Thank you Hitmax117. really really I appreciate you.
just I want to be sure .
it means which ever ruu rom is here for htc legend, with this method i can flash it on device.
1- Its not related to it, the legend is lcd or led?
2- its not related to it, its rooted or not rooted?
again thanks.
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official ruu's can be found here, i recomend you download a WWE (WorldWideEdition)
lcd,led, rooted or not rooted doesnt matter because you're installing an Official ROM by HTC
Remember this, if you install an ruu your hboot (some kind of bios) will be updated to 1.01 probably, which means you can't s-off your phone
To be sure you know this, RUU and Rom's that you find here are totally different
Make sure you make the right decision
If you still have questions feel free to ask

what about this method.
can I use this method?
http://theunlockr.com/2010/06/07/how-to-unroot-the-htc-legend/

pejman999 said:
what about this method.
can I use this method?
http://theunlockr.com/2010/06/07/how-to-unroot-the-htc-legend/
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yes you can, but I still think you need to make a goldcard first